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Keeping this article temporarily.

Dear all,

Would like to keep this article temporarily. Add some info to it. Once this is done, then we can decide upon moving info to microcosm.

This is a complicated article, due to complexity of sources as well as concept. I would appreciate any assistance that can be given,

Blessings,

Yaakov W. Yaakov Wa. (talk) 02:37, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

p.s. Am requesting that others add sourcing from Talmud and Midrashim. Yaakov Wa. (talk) 02:45, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Am first working on gathering sources, then adding info. Would appreciate it if others can add sources to the article or talk page.

Dear Yaakov Wa.,

First of all, please remember to sign all your posts on talk pages by adding four tildes (~~~~). If you want to notify other editors, you can ping them by typing {{u|username}}, e.g. {{u|Warshy}} would ping Warshy (I believe this is what you wanted to do?).

Second, please understand that Misplaced Pages needs to be based on reliable (which in this case means: scholarly), secondary sources. Primary sources are only used to illustrate things or to establish basic and simple facts for which no interpretation/translation/etc. is needed. So literally quoting from Talmud and Midrashim is fine if it can help the reader understand how things were historically formulated, but any interpretation of their meaning (or anything we write about them really) should be backed up by a modern academic scholar discussing the relevant texts. If you are willing to look for a modern scholarly source (you know, something published by a university press) on this subject, that would be great.

Sincerely, Apaugasma (talk|contribs) 03:31, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Dear Apaugasma,

Only have knowledge of this concept in regards to Tanya and some chassidic, as well as kabbalistic sources. I do not possess the time to wade through and understand highly refined texts on this extremely complex and delicate subject. I will only be able to contribute partially, and only in regards to explaining some details of how this concept is found in some Chassidic texts. If you can find some expert on this. Although, they are probably extremely rare, that would be fantastic! If you are an expert, and are willing to go through some texts, I can give you some pointers if you are going in the right direction.

Blessings,

Yaakov W. Yaakov Wa. (talk) 04:38, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Dear Yaakov Wa., as a researcher, I do generally work on this kind of topic, and if I ever plan to do original research on the Jewish sources, I will be sure to contact you. However, you should know that this is absolutely not what Misplaced Pages is for: here, we should only even try to work on an article if we have good secondary sources at hand. Since that is not the case here, it is probably best to let the article be deleted. Blessings, Apaugasma (talk|contribs) 10:45, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

While I am not a subject expert on this particular concept, it certainly appears in many areas of Jewish thought. Nefesh HaChaim touches on the parallels between the universe, the tabernacle and the human form. Secondary sources are available (JE 1906, EJ). I will therefore contest the PROD. JFW | T@lk 08:08, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

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