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	Akshay Kumar was a Media and drama good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones Date Process Result February 22, 2015 Peer review Reviewed October 13, 2015 Good article nominee Not listed
Current status: Former good article nominee

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I think most leads of film actors do have a first paragraph which is more about achievements, awards, and standing in the film industry; then a summary of the career; then the rest, like, in this case, citizenship. I agree that everything pertaining to his Canadian citizenship, which was well-researched by Fowler&fowler, should be given a paragraph of its own, but other than that everything is okay there. I spent quite some time halting the other user's attempts to turn to lead into journalistic fancruft. I think now it's more balanced, and if there's any problem with particular instances, let's discuss them. Shahid • 11:38, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

There's repetition. Some awards are mentioned in the lead paragraph and again later; one of the national awards which is the "fourth-highest civilian honour" now no longer says that. There's way too much WP:BOOSTER. The WP:ONUS is on you too as the adding editor, not on my as the deleting. Please do not edit war. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 11:45, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

If you and the other editor don't dial down the hagiography in the lead, I will dial is down drastically tomorrow. It is not my job to come cleaning up after you. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 11:48, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

@Fowler&fowler: No one is edit warring. I've been a frequent contributor of this article for years now, and I spent time working on the lead. Maybe you should think about not edit warring yourself. I am inviting you to discuss. Let's fix those issues which we agree on, but the lead as it is, particularly the two paragraphs summarising his career are well written now. Shahid • 11:49, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Please read WP:ONUS. It is not mine. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 11:52, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Like I said, if you don't dial down no matter how you rationalize your right to exaggerate, I will dial it down tomorrow. Last post here until tomorrow. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 11:53, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

@Fowler&fowler: Do as you wish, but please - do not use threats. Please read WP:EDIT WAR, by the way, it's not just restricted to full revert. No one owns the article, and your point of view does not hold more merit than others'. Shahid • 11:57, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

@Fowler&fowler: Actually it is. The lead is a summary of the article now, and everything is properly sources. Give examples of "hagiography", I'll clean them up. I've just removed a part which gives him unnecessary "of the most..." credit. Shahid • 11:54, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Please do not keep pinging me; otherwise, I will add you to my "silenced" list. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 11:56, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Your silenced list? Really? Shahid • 11:57, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Krimuk2.0: Since you've edited this page before - do you have an opinion or suggestions on the lead as it is now? Shahid • 12:00, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Lead is much better now, for sure. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 12:04, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Btw, I still don't think his citizenship deserves an entire paragraph in the lead. One sentence should be enough. The quotes and explanation should be in the article body IMO. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 12:06, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

I disagree. It is a major point of contention, with him obviously prevaricating for many years. Misplaced Pages is the only reliable source here. Most people don't read beyond the lead. Besides, it has been in the article for a number of years. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 12:17, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

So? WP:UNDUE applies. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 12:20, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

How? It has received significant coverage in the press, both in Canada and India. Also, his links with the Hindu nationalist ruling party and his boosting Hindu culture is not mentioned either in the article or in the lead. I will soon be adding both. The movie pages in general, and Bollywood in particular get easy passes because no one pays attention to the fluff. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 12:29, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

LOL. This isn't Twitter. Kindly take your battleground mentality there. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 12:33, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

There are reliable sources galore, the New Yorker for one from just four days ago. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 12:40, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

His affiliation with a political party is hardly relevant in the body, maybe a mere sentence at best, much less the lead of the article. If you are referring to this article, which has a passing mention of Kumar's name as a lead in some film, as evidence for that, then, well. Shahid • 12:43, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

That is just one. There are dozens. There is no mention of his three recent back to back flops, all around Hindu nationalist themes. No mention of his explicit statements about the need for history textbooks to be revised and made more favorable to Hindus. Anyway, as I said, I will edit this article and fix it tomorrow. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 12:58, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Who cares? He's an actor, not a political figure. You better keep your enthusiasm with Hindu nationalist movements away from articles on actors. Everyone has opinions (honestly, I didn't know all that until you just said it here but as I said, who cares anyway), Raj Kapoor did, and Dilip Kumar did, and so do the Khans, but they are actors - it's not what they're known for. I think a sentence about someone who's been public about the party they vote or something could do, but other than that, unless it gets significant coverage much to the point where they clearly become known for that, it's hardly notable.

About the changes you want to make, please note that there is agreement on the lead as it stands, including the introductory paragraph (minus the "one of the most successful" which will be removed) and the summary of his career, and you should discuss it if you are willing to make major changes to them. Shahid • 13:13, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

All depends on the attention in the sources. You can have any number of vaunted RfCs on that. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 13:17, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

By the way, which flops are you talking about when you're saying "back to back flops, all around Hindu nationalist themes"? I see 1) Raksha Bandhan, which is a family comedy-drama; 2) Samrat Prithviraj, a historical film; 3) Bachchhan Paandey, an action comedy; and 4) Bell Bottom, an action comedy. Indeed, all of them didn't do well. It can be mentioned of course, we just need to think how. Shahid • 13:22, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Please also do not canvass. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 12:18, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

This isn't canvassing - Krimuk has been a contributor of this page and he's been invited to weigh in on the matter. Shahid • 12:22, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

@Krimuk2.0: Thank you for your edits and input Krimuk. I think so too. So we have a sort of consensus on the career part with your edits and point of view. As for citizenship, I'm not sure exactly how it should be presented - I think Akshay Kumar#Citizenship is a very good summary of his citizenship. So we have two points in need of solving:

1) As for the repetition of awards, it is quite common practice to give a summary of his awards in the first paragraph and specify them later in the lead.

2) This edit by Themodifie7, I completely disagree with. "one of the most successful..." is just puffery especially when him being one of the highest-paid actors is alredy mentioned. Shahid • 12:20, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Okay, thank you for cutting on the POV pushing. The last edit about acclaim should also be reverted. Agree? Shahid • 12:24, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

The citizenship part notwithstanding (we'll address it in a separate section and take it to RfC if needed), these last two edits by the other user, which are mere fancruft, should be reverted. Do we agree on that? Shahid • 12:38, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

So, this is the version agreed upon by Krimuk and myself, and I believe the removal of puffery is accepted by Fowler as well. Right now the lead relies on factual information just as it should instead of fancruft.

As for citizenship, I trust Krimuk's input and we'll see what Fowler has to offer in regard to the sources he's collecting in the section below. Shahid • 13:37, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Not the citizenship which is so notable for the lead that there is a Misplaced Pages warning about it when someone wants to edit the page, but about his blatant Hindu Nationalist POV-pushing. I will write a section on it later summarize it in the lead after the current citizenship sentences. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 14:29, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

If you attempt to remove it, I guarantee you I will give you and the other editor a run for the money. This is no threat, only a reflection of my use of irrefutable sources. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 14:31, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Are you kidding? Is this an ego trip against other editors or actual willingness to contribute and improve this page? I think your history shows more words than actions, and this hostile explosion of ego here is exactly why many reputable WP editors do not wish to collaborate with you and have often complained about your own POV pushing. Please be warned here that your threats will not be tolerated any longer.

As for sources - it's never only about sourcing - WP:DUE is a huge part of writing articles. Please also note WP:BLP. They will lead this article, as will WP:CON. You should know that already. You do your job and others will do theirs', and we always have WP policy and other routes to achieving consensus and bringing a broaded number of opinions to fore. Shahid • 15:27, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

For the record, if your contribution is fair, balanced, and well in place, I will be the first to support you just as I supported the citizenship section. Shahid • 15:29, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. I am collecting the sources first and listing them below. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 11:50, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

F&f's sources on Akshay Kumar's political canvassing for the Hindu right

Please do not edit this section

1. Bhattacharya, Snighendu (September 20, 2022), "Is the Hindu Nationalist 'Boycott Bollywood' Campaign Impacting the Box Office?", The Diplomat
2. Dore, Bhavya (31 January 2021), "The Player: Akshay Kumar's role as Hindutva's poster boy", Caravan Magazine
3. Bhatia, Sidharth (June 2, 2022), "Akshay Kumar's Hindu Samrat Goes Where No Other Bollywood Film Has Gone Before: The blatant advertising of 'Samrat Prithviraj' shows it is aimed at only Hindus, but will this work at the box office?", The Wire
4. Lateef, Samaan (September 30, 2022), "In India, Modi's Hindu Nationalists Declare War on Bollywood's Muslim Superstars", Haaretz
5. Subramanian, Samanth (October 10, 2022), "When the Hindu Right came for Bollywood: The industry used to honor India's secular ideals—but, since the rise of Narendra Modi, it's been flooded with stock Hindu heroes and Muslim villains.", The New Yorker
6. Pandey, Geeta (9 June 2022), "Samrat Prithviraj: Why did a Bollywood film on a popular Hindu king fail?", BBC News
7. Das, Rolla (June 24, 2022), "Bollywood and its Hindutva lens: Hindi films are drumming up the good Hindu vs evil Muslim binary, mixing religion with nationalism, and peddling selective stories.", Deccan Herald
8. Singh, Akanksha (November 20, 2020), "Bollywood, Disney and Akshay Kumar all blamed for Laxmii – the Hindi comedy horror film with an insensitive treatment of the trans community", South China Morning Post
9. Sinha, Kanad (July 3, 2022), "Twisted plot: Communalisation of history must be resisted", The Telegraph, Kolkata
10. Mathur, Yashika (June 25, 2022), "Rewriting History Through Cinema: A Reality?", Outlook India
11. Pant, Pushpesh (June 12, 2022), "Heroes and villains in reel and real lives: In interviews promoting his film, he (Akshay Kumar) makes sweeping statements about the achievements of Hindu kings not being given a due place in school textbooks.", The New Indian Express
12. Jha, Shefali (June 3, 2022), "'Did you go to school uncle?': Akshay Kumar mercilessly trolled for 'history textbooks' remark", International Business Times
13. Khadgi, Ankit (November 20, 2021), "'Sooryavanshi' beating the Hindutva drum: Akshay Kumar, Bollywood's poster boy, is back with yet another problematic film that perpetuates the beliefs of Hindu supremacists.", The Kathmandu Post

Fowler&fowler«Talk» 13:02, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

I will add another section and summarize it in the lead in the near future when I'm able to make time for it. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 20:51, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

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