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Hi, I just wanted to say I looked over some of the material you wrote about Calvary Chapel, some of which I thought was insightful. I kind of gave up on the ] gang last year. From the talk page, it doesn't appear much has changed. ] (]) 17:11, 22 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
I am adding this post-dated comment so that the bot does not archive this -- ensuring that it stays to remind me. <span style="font-family:Antiqua, serif;">'']<sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub>''<sup>(''']''')</sup></span> 07:39, 24 May 3012 (UTC) | |||
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::Thank you for bringing this to my attention! My initial comments were based on the revision of the article in which the entire creationist section was taken up almost 60 - 70% by a long quote criticizing only the contributors to Ashton's book. My problem with this focus isn't so much that GROVE chose to pay attention to them in his review, but that his review takes up such a huge part of Ashton's article section in the of even though the quote used does not reference him by name even once. If what you say is true about Ashton, then it almost seems to me that it would be preferable if the creationist section was shrunk down. After all, if he is not notable for it on his own then it doesn't deserve it's own section, does he? | |||
I mean, I see it this way, using an example -->. ] is a basketball fan, but that is not why he is notable and he does not have a section of his article that basically composed of criticisms of the teams that happened to show up on his March Madness roster card thingy, right? Such a list of criticisms would be relevant to those teams but not relevant to Barack Obama, and if the only thing we knew about Barack Obama and basketball were that the teams that he likes are not very good (but nothing about him personally!) then the best bet would be not to create a whole section to it because he is not notable to the field of basketball. | |||
Same with Dr. Ashton. If his the ONLY verifiable, notable, reliably-sourced info regarding his creationism comes from a review of a book that he wrote about other people that focuses on those other people and not him in any respect, then he is not a notable creationist and his views should not receive their own independent segment.] (]) 06:27, 15 May 2012 (UTC) | |||
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:This goes back to an argument raised on the AfD, that if he is only known as an ''editor'' of a book of testimonies of more-famous creationists, is he really notable as a creationist? But if creationism drops out, then we're really only left with the chocolate book as a source of notability. <font face="Antiqua, serif">'']<sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub><sup>''(''']''')</sup></font> 06:54, 15 May 2012 (UTC) | |||
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::I saw that debate but I wasn't sure what that was going on because it was closed a few hours before I saw it. I really do not longer think that Dr. Ashton is notable as a creationist, if his only notability derives from the fact that 49 other people were criticized because of his description of them and inclusion of their words in a book. To me, it's the same as creating a whole section in the Obama article about his March Madness bracket or putting a long section of criticism of ]'s presidency in the ] article. In fact, I think that that last one is an even superier example -- Goodwin is famous for her book about Abraham Lincoln but it would be wrong to essentially make her Misplaced Pages article solely about Lincoln rather than her historiography about him. I'm not sure if it's strictly against policy to do that but it really is a stretch because the book review wasn't really about '''Ashton''' specifically but focused on the people he wrote about. ] (]) 15:03, 15 May 2012 (UTC) | |||
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I have again had my nose rubbed in just how unhealthy the frustration that Misplaced Pages editing causes me is. I am therefore taking another wikibreak, quite possibly a permanent (or at the very least semi-permanent) one. HrafnStalk 07:39, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
I am adding this post-dated comment so that the bot does not archive this -- ensuring that it stays to remind me. HrafnStalk 07:39, 24 May 3012 (UTC)
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