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== How do you say the "10" in Croatian/Bosnian/Serbian? == | |||
Surely they don't say "ten" ] (]) 15:30, 15 June 2023 (UTC) | |||
== Name Change == | |||
I originally posted most of this at ]: | |||
:They do say "ten" in their respective language (''deset''). ] (]) 15:19, 16 June 2023 (UTC) | |||
If someone wishes for us to change the name by which the canton is referenced, an explanation less silly than "Some bosnian islamic nationalists call this canton "West Bosnia Canton" to make a reference to Greater Bosnia" will have to be provided. The term "Zapadnobosanski Kanton" is widely used, in official institutions too, and in a non-derogatory manner, a simple Google search shows this, so there's little or no point in trying to claim that it's some evil Bosniak conspiracy. Please be rational. --] 12:30, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC) | |||
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== "Herzeg-Bosnian Canton", flag and coat of arms are unconstitutional == | |||
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Even though the cantonal government uses the name "Herzeg-Bosnian Canton", the Herzeg-Bosnian flag and coat of arms, the constitutional court of the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina ruled the name and symbols . With this, they are unrecognized by the government of the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina. At least some annotations ''(de jure, de facto)'' should be put in place. ] (]) 11:06, 5 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
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The symbols and name were found unconstitutional stop pushing your pov. ] (]) 19:41, 3 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
Until there appear to be symbols accepted on both sides. .. these ones will stay. Misplaced Pages does not obey not any constituition!! YOU should stop pushing your POV!! here you can not outvote somebody! | |||
--] (]) 09:39, 7 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Page protected == | |||
I've protected this article for two weeks and hopefully a solution can be found. I see the dispute is whether ] and ] should be added to the infobox. I haven't examined this issue in detail, but this seems to be a case of ] vs. ] status. | |||
Infoboxes generally only include official symbols. Since the flag and coat of arms seem to be used as de facto symbols despite being ruled unconstitutional, perhaps they can be taken out of the infobox and put under a section explaining their status. Would this be an acceptable solution for both sides? | |||
] (]) 01:57, 14 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
Hi Spellcast! | |||
As I have already explained at ]... | |||
these symbols are: | |||
*de jure:partially accepted-used by the local governement but not accepted at the federal level | |||
*de facto: absolutely accepted | |||
--] (]) 06:29, 14 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
:To avoid duplicate conversations, we'll continue the discussion there. ] (]) 10:00, 18 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
== names == | |||
the local government referrs the Canton 10 as "hercegbosanska zupanija" | |||
that counts as "native name" even if it is not official.--] (]) 15:47, 15 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
:Same situation with the symbols, the name was found unconstitutional, this is already explained on the page as per the consensus. 15:56, 15 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
There is not any court that has jurisdiction over this. Therefore it is meaningless.--] (]) 14:47, 24 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
== HERZEGOVINA == | |||
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OK, efendija PRODUCER | |||
Could you explain me what is the problem with this sentence: | |||
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*Are claiming that ] borders are determined? And you know them? | |||
*if they are , give us some sources for that! | |||
--] (]) 14:45, 24 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
:Thanks for the compliment. I'm not the one adding new information it's up to you to provide sources. Stop returning the name we've gone over this nonsense, for the last time '''do not return it''', it has been declared unconstitutional. ] (]) 14:55, 24 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
::You have not answered my question!--] (]) 06:56, 25 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
I am still waiting. And as it seems to me I will be waitign till eternity.--] (]) 06:13, 26 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Name == | |||
The official website of the Canton uses the name "''Herzegbosanska županija''", which is obviously the Croatian native name for the Canton. The Bosniak name is "Kanton br. 10", whil the Serbian name is "''Zapadnobosanski kanton''" ("Западнобосански кантон"). --<font face="Eras Bold ITC">] <sup>(])</sup></font> 15:57, 15 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
precisely!That is my point ,too!] (]) 06:40, 16 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Coat of Arms == | |||
Is there any Coat of Arms of Canton 10? All other cantons have their own heraldic symbols... --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">]<sup>]</sup></span> 17:07, 22 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Orphaned references in ] == | |||
I check pages listed in ] to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for ] in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of ]'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for ''this'' article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article. | |||
<b>Reference named "Data":</b><ul> | |||
<li>From ]: http://www.fzs.ba/Podaci/10.pdf</li> | |||
<li>From ]: {{bs icon}}{{hr icon}} {{cite web |url=http://www.fzs.ba/Podaci/10.pdf |title=Kanton 10 u brojkama (Canton 10 in numbers) |author= |date= |website= |publisher=The Federal Office of Statistics of Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina |accessdate=28 May 2013}}</li> | |||
</ul> | |||
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. ]] 08:42, 17 October 2013 (UTC) |
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How do you say the "10" in Croatian/Bosnian/Serbian?
Surely they don't say "ten" 2.217.239.72 (talk) 15:30, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
- They do say "ten" in their respective language (deset). Governor Sheng (talk) 15:19, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
"Herzeg-Bosnian Canton", flag and coat of arms are unconstitutional
Even though the cantonal government uses the name "Herzeg-Bosnian Canton", the Herzeg-Bosnian flag and coat of arms, the constitutional court of the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina ruled the name and symbols unconstitutional. With this, they are unrecognized by the government of the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina. At least some annotations (de jure, de facto) should be put in place. BenjoKing99 (talk) 11:06, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
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