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::The change has been in place for a year now, and it has never been disputed. I have to point out again to ]. Please comment on which information you think is reliable. --] (]) 19:21, 17 November 2023 (UTC) ::The change has been in place for a year now, and it has never been disputed. I have to point out again to ]. Please comment on which information you think is reliable. --] (]) 19:21, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

== "Partidocracia" ==

{{ping|WMrapids}} The most recent changes () deal mostly with interpretations and opinions about the Pact, rather than concrete facts, the most prominent being the concept about ], which is clearly pejorative and violates NPOV. Again, one of the main issues is the use of the editorial voice without attribution.

Other issues about veracity have persisted. One of the wording changes seemed to imply that wage increases were limited to the military, which was definitely not the case, and that the military gained popularity due to the end of the guerrilla movements in the early 70s, but this also ignores and is contradictory with an important historical episode: ]'s pacification, a policy that was actually the opposite of armed confrontations and invited subversive group to join politics in exchange of laying down arms. ] (]) 20:34, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

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I deleted all the links and place onlyl the link to the National Front (Colombia) article. I think the previous link had nothing to do with the article, and they even had a very partisan tone to them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:3:2300:21D:443C:1F4B:51CF:D53 (talk) 01:10, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

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Unreliable references

@WMrapids: I would like to take a look into this once I have more time, but for the time being I want to point out to one of the most evident falsehoods that were removed: the article previous stated that the Pact's guaranteed included most importantly, amnesty from prosecution for crimes committed during the dictatorship, but this is simply false. Marcos Pérez Jiménez was prosecuted for embezzlement after his extradition to Venezuela, and convicted officials of the Seguridad Nacional include: Miguel Silvio Sanz, Asunción Cabrita Rojas, Braulio Barreto Manuel Delgado Díaz, Gregorio González Gómez, José Manuel Hernández, José Manuel Polachini, Miguel Antonio Soto, Andrés Melciades Ayala, Ramón Norato Useche, Jesús Alberto Piñero, José Inés Alcalá, Luis Antonio Díaz, Jesús Manuel González, Salvador Graffe, Ramón Emilio Solorzano, Vicente Ferrer Borges, Luis Enrique Torres, Luis Tirado and Daniel Augusto Colmenares.

In the meantime, I would like to know why these sources would be preferable to Spanish speaking sources such as Polar's History Dictionary, which was removed in the last edit. NoonIcarus (talk) 19:08, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

I placed it back. Also, I will remove the amnesty information as well. WMrapids (talk) 19:10, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
Also, regarding your current edit warring, I must remind you of WP:ONUS as you are the user making the bold edits.--WMrapids (talk) 19:11, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
The change has been in place for a year now, and it has never been disputed. I have to point out again to WP:SILENCE. Please comment on which information you think is reliable. --NoonIcarus (talk) 19:21, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

"Partidocracia"

@WMrapids: The most recent changes () deal mostly with interpretations and opinions about the Pact, rather than concrete facts, the most prominent being the concept about particracy, which is clearly pejorative and violates NPOV. Again, one of the main issues is the use of the editorial voice without attribution.

Other issues about veracity have persisted. One of the wording changes seemed to imply that wage increases were limited to the military, which was definitely not the case, and that the military gained popularity due to the end of the guerrilla movements in the early 70s, but this also ignores and is contradictory with an important historical episode: Rafael Caldera's pacification, a policy that was actually the opposite of armed confrontations and invited subversive group to join politics in exchange of laying down arms. NoonIcarus (talk) 20:34, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

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