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== Ratings table == |
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The table is looking a little empty and theres a reason for that. Some episodes couldn't be sourced with Live+7 and there's only one further one that could be. Would people be okay with a combined Live+7 and Live+3 to fill in the blanks? There are Live+3 numbers for every episode. Or should I just source the remaining Live+7 episode that can be and leave the rest of the fields as n/a? ] (]) 00:33, 11 January 2020 (UTC) |
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==Cord Jefferson== |
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Just listened to a Fresh Air segment about one of the principal writers of the TV show - Cord Jefferson. Cord Jefferson has one tangential mention in the article. https://www.npr.org/2020/08/29/906214563/fresh-air-weekend-watchmen-writer-stephen-miller-and-the-white-nationalist-agend <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 19:41, 30 August 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 27 October 2020 == |
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:There are probably dozens of small continuity nods of the type that TV Tropes would document (both major and minor details) but I don't think to a point requiring a whole section. Reading the premise and the cast/character descriptions in whole, you know who are the returning characters and their original roles. --] (]) 13:38, 27 October 2020 (UTC) |
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:There are probably dozens of small continuity nods of the type that TV Tropes would document (both major and minor details) but I don't think to a point requiring a whole section. Reading the premise and the cast/character descriptions in whole, you know who are the returning characters and their original roles. --] (]) 13:38, 27 October 2020 (UTC) |
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::Hmph. I remain skeptical. Against my better judgement, I re-watched the film (which I had seen when it was new, but remembered very little of), read a synopsis of the comics, and also binge-watched the first season of the TV series. The comics and TV series appear to be entirely compatible, while the film and the TV series only have minor disjoints: the filmmakers' decision to complicate the engineered cataclysm that brings about peace between the superpowers, and Dr. Manhattan's statement that he's thinking of leaving for another galaxy. Of these, the only real continuity break is that in the comics and TV show, it's Veidt's giant squid-thing that kills millions in NYC, versus the film changing this to a series of new-energy devices jointly developed by Manhattan and Veidt killing millions in multiple world cities. Even the "where is Manhattan going?" issue isn't an actual continuity break. In the film, it was claimed that peace would hold only as long as the world thought Dr. Manhattan "was watching", and in all three versions of the story he can being in more than one place at a time, so he easily could have followed through with a plan to check out another galaxy while also leaving a visible copy behind doing weird stuff on Mars and more secretively doing stuff on Europa and (in human form) on Earth. Even the weird Klan/Cyclops–Rorschach connection isn't a continuity problem; in both film and comics it's clear that Rorschach's journal is going to get published, so it's entirely plausible that weirdo far-right conspiracy theorists would latch on to it and his image for their own purposes, especially since both comics and film make it clear that the original team were very much "of their time", products of privilege, and quite right-of-center (e.g. the Comedian being said to have been a borderline fascist, and even Manhattan having no problem, until {{lang|la|post hoc}} conscience got to him, of being used as a weapon of mass destruction against communists in North Vietnam).<p>Anyway, it's probably worth at least a few sentences that the major continuity break between the film and TV/comics story lines is simply the squid vs. exploding reactors point, with a secondary and weak discontinuity being Manhattan's very Earth-visible activities on Mars in the TV show. Well, that and Dreiberg being (so far) just being ignored; the viewer of the TV series gets no impression of his having had any impact of any kind after the events of the comics/film. (That could, of course, change in later seasons.) Regardless, I think people tend to use our articles on fiction franchises to get continuity info pretty often (I know I do), so I found it weird that this article was totally devoid of any.<br /><span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — ] ] ] 😼 </span> 05:39, 1 November 2020 (UTC)</p> |
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::Hmph. I remain skeptical. Against my better judgement, I re-watched the film (which I had seen when it was new, but remembered very little of), read a synopsis of the comics, and also binge-watched the first season of the TV series. The comics and TV series appear to be entirely compatible, while the film and the TV series only have minor disjoints: the filmmakers' decision to complicate the engineered cataclysm that brings about peace between the superpowers, and Dr. Manhattan's statement that he's thinking of leaving for another galaxy. Of these, the only real continuity break is that in the comics and TV show, it's Veidt's giant squid-thing that kills millions in NYC, versus the film changing this to a series of new-energy devices jointly developed by Manhattan and Veidt killing millions in multiple world cities. Even the "where is Manhattan going?" issue isn't an actual continuity break. In the film, it was claimed that peace would hold only as long as the world thought Dr. Manhattan "was watching", and in all three versions of the story he can being in more than one place at a time, so he easily could have followed through with a plan to check out another galaxy while also leaving a visible copy behind doing weird stuff on Mars and more secretively doing stuff on Europa and (in human form) on Earth. Even the weird Klan/Cyclops–Rorschach connection isn't a continuity problem; in both film and comics it's clear that Rorschach's journal is going to get published, so it's entirely plausible that weirdo far-right conspiracy theorists would latch on to it and his image for their own purposes, especially since both comics and film make it clear that the original team were very much "of their time", products of privilege, and quite right-of-center (e.g. the Comedian being said to have been a borderline fascist, and even Manhattan having no problem, until {{lang|la|post hoc}} conscience got to him, of being used as a weapon of mass destruction against communists in North Vietnam).<p>Anyway, it's probably worth at least a few sentences that the major continuity break between the film and TV/comics story lines is simply the squid vs. exploding reactors point, with a secondary and weak discontinuity being Manhattan's very Earth-visible activities on Mars in the TV show. Well, that and Dreiberg being (so far) just being ignored; the viewer of the TV series gets no impression of his having had any impact of any kind after the events of the comics/film. (That could, of course, change in later seasons.) Regardless, I think people tend to use our articles on fiction franchises to get continuity info pretty often (I know I do), so I found it weird that this article was totally devoid of any.<br /><span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — ] ] ] 😼 </span> 05:39, 1 November 2020 (UTC)</p> |
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== Principal Photography == |
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The section begins with the dates May 30 2018 to June 2 2018 for filming the pilot. That seems short. ] (]) 13:24, 7 March 2024 (UTC) |
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:Good catch - I found a corrected date with citation -- added to Filming section. ] (]) 15:43, 7 March 2024 (UTC) |
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== Remove broken reception graph == |
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The Reception section graph has been broken for years with no indication that it will be fixed. Even before it was technically broken the graph itself is fundamentally flawed (it shows no difference between an episode with 10 reviews, versus an episode with 100 reviews) and does not meet up to the standard of an encyclopedia. It is long overdue to remove this broken graph. Please remove it already. -- ] (]) 18:53, 4 September 2024 (UTC) |
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:That applies to all uses of the template so should be discussed at ]. ] (]) 20:57, 4 September 2024 (UTC) |
This should have at least some basic info on continuity, beyond the bare statement that it takes place in the same fictional universe as the original comics. E.g., how does it relate to/depart from the film continuity? To other film/TV works by the same comics publisher? And so on. Keep in mind that many people only know of Watchmen from the film, and are not comics readers. (For my part, I'm not a superhero comics reader, and don't even watch most filmic adaptations of them, so I won't be of any help on this particular matter.) — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 13:13, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
The Reception section graph has been broken for years with no indication that it will be fixed. Even before it was technically broken the graph itself is fundamentally flawed (it shows no difference between an episode with 10 reviews, versus an episode with 100 reviews) and does not meet up to the standard of an encyclopedia. It is long overdue to remove this broken graph. Please remove it already. -- 109.79.171.34 (talk) 18:53, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Dylsss 13:01, 27 October 2020 (UTC)