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== Opening sentence == | |||
== Reducing the amount of content about contributing == | |||
"Misplaced Pages is an online free content encyclopedia project helping to create a world in which everyone | |||
This is obvious but worth stating — one of the biases that all regular Misplaced Pages contributors have is that we're inclined, way more than your average visitor to the site, to focus on the act of contributing to Misplaced Pages as opposed to the act of just casually reading it. (], although that's not saying quite the same thing) This page is the reader introduction to Misplaced Pages, though, not the contributor introduction, so I think we ought to significantly reduce the amount here about contributing. We're not going to have room here for a stand-alone mini-tutorial on contributing, so it's better to just note that readers can also contribute and then point them to better places to learn more. Would there be support for that? ] (]) 07:55, 23 March 2020 (UTC) | |||
can freely share in the sum of all knowledge." | |||
:Mulling this over, I still feel similarly, but I think the page is also ''way too long in general''. So when I get around to revamping it, I'll probably make it much shorter overall. The details can go in ] or in other WP-space pages. <span style="color:#AAA"><small>{{u|</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">]</span><small>}}</small></span> <sup>]</sup> 07:56, 3 May 2020 (UTC) | |||
::I'm going to start going through and making some cuts. If anyone else is here and wants to discuss plans, feel free to let me know. <span style="color:#AAA"><small>{{u|</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">]</span><small>}}</small></span> <sup>]</sup> 02:39, 27 May 2020 (UTC) | |||
:::Agree whole article could use a big trim. Let's make sure it's not an advertisement for other pages.....give real information here on what to do. Registration is up because of COVID but retention is way down. Let try to give consumable information on this one page.--<span style="font-weight:bold;color:darkblue">]</span> <span style="color:red">🍁</span> 03:04, 27 May 2020 (UTC) | |||
Hmm, sounds like a load of marketing wank and not the introduction to a worthwhile encyclopedia article. ] (]) 03:49, 26 January 2022 (UTC) | |||
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:I've suggested this revision—which seems a bit more accurate, fixes a bit of punctuation ("free-content" is an adjective here), ''and'' may be sufficiently less vainglorious (😉) :<br> | |||
Button has changed its look. Could be changed. ] (]) 17:26, 17 June 2020 (UTC) | |||
:''Misplaced Pages is an online free-content encyclopedia helping to create a world where everyone can freely share and access knowledge.''<br/> | |||
:– ] (]) 02:29, 8 March 2022 (UTC) | |||
::Isn't that the uncyclopedia's motto? ] (]) 17:29, 12 January 2024 (UTC) | |||
:The page ] is {{em|not}} an encyclopedia article. Note the prefix <code>Misplaced Pages:</code> in the page's name – it's a page in the ]. —] (]) 13:58, 6 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
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== Redesigning the About page == | ||
Please see discussion at the idea lab at ]. ] (]) 15:43, 6 May 2022 (UTC) | |||
Following the discussion at ], an ] ] to a bunch of help pages targeted specifically at newcomers. This notice, which appears above the editing box (''not'' to people just reading the page normally), will hopefully help prevent ]. This page is one of the more bloated pages on Misplaced Pages (it needs some ] at this point, really), so I think it could benefit from the notice as well; would others agree? <span style="color:#AAA"><small>{{u|</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">]</span><small>}}</small></span> <sup>]</sup> 17:39, 12 July 2020 (UTC) | |||
:Seeing no replies, I'm going to go ahead and add the notice. <span style="color:#AAA"><small>{{u|</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">]</span><small>}}</small></span> <sup>]</sup> 08:22, 14 October 2020 (UTC) | |||
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A discussion is taking place to address the redirect ]. The discussion will occur at ] until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. <!-- from Template:RFDNote --> ] (]) 10:54, 19 September 2020 (UTC) | |||
:As the discussion is now archived, not sure where else to post this. The new version is (bluntly) a miserable shadow of its former self. While the former had visually interesting media and statistical information, the new version is just a boring plain wall of text and links. I honestly initially took the changes for vandalism given how awkwardly the page ends. Given the size and radical effect of the change, I'd recommend a RfC. ] (]) 01:40, 17 July 2022 (UTC) | |||
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==Given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow!== | |||
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This has been at the bottom of the page for awhile. I don't know why it says "bugs", and how are they shallow. I may be missing something in thinking this is a good Zen mind twister but has no other meaning (generational gap? is it a meme?). Thanks. ] (]) 03:19, 1 October 2022 (UTC) | |||
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:], this phrase is ]. —] (]) 14:18, 1 October 2022 (UTC) | |||
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::Thanks {{u|Andrybak}}, first I've heard of that. It seems a little inside-baseball to act as the "big finish" of the Misplaced Pages:About article, and I'd guess it tends to confuse more than just me if someone doesn't know the term. Still seems a slightly confusing way of ending the introduction of the site to newcomers. ] (]) 15:29, 1 October 2022 (UTC) | |||
I three decorative images, which were removed by Moxy. I won't argue the reversion since I don't feel like having to explain why this page isn't ] and therefore doesn't need to go by ], but I do want to plop them here for the record, since we'll need to do a fundamental redesign of this page at some point and these files might be useful when we do. <span style="color:#AAA"><small>{{u|</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">]</span><small>}}</small></span> <sup>]</sup> 07:06, 23 December 2020 (UTC) | |||
:::Then again, computer people will know its meaning and recognize the term, so I'm just reacting as a non-computer savvy user. Thanks again for the education. ] (]) 16:18, 1 October 2022 (UTC) | |||
::::I went to add a ] link to further explain the point of the Linus's law quote and ended up editing and reordering the last paragraph for concept flow and brevity, and then put in a paragraph break. Seems to work. ] (]) 04:41, 2 October 2022 (UTC) | |||
== Outdated == | |||
The version is true for the period 2001-19. In 2019, however, it was resolved that all active porn actors will be gradually eliminated from Misplaced Pages claiming insufficient notability. Thus, one "branch of knowledge" is blocked, the branch accounting for half of internet traffic. | |||
Since 2019, Misplaced Pages's purpose is usually "to satisfy" and sometimes to frustrate curious minds by acting as a widely accessible and 💕 that contains information on many branches of knowledge and avoids information on selected branches. The opening citation should be adjusted too, as much changed since Sanger said it: | |||
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--] (]) 21:44, 26 January 2023 (UTC) | |||
:@] Could you clarify your position on the issue further? ] 14:59, 31 January 2023 (UTC) | |||
::Since 2019, there is at least one branch of knowledge de facto censored from Misplaced Pages - active porn actors. Officially, they fail notability; in practice, the notability is made high enough for total deletion of porn actors who rose to prominence ever since. | |||
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::The issue passed long discussion and request for comment and the arbitration request was speedy declined. Since 2019, Misplaced Pages factually has a new policy - no longer '''all''' branches of knowledge. I think this page must be adjusted to the new policy. ] (]) 16:28, 31 January 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::@] I think you you go to the ] and discuss about the issue, which I think it is far more effective than trying to make a ] proposal at this page. I think more people will listen to you if you raise your complaints in a more respectful manner. ] 00:12, 1 February 2023 (UTC) | |||
::::It does not matter how many people would listen, this policy is from above and it disregarded many counter-arguments by other people. It would be more respectful if Misplaced Pages honestly announced changes in its policy and adjusted related pages instead of abusing the rules of notability. ] (]) 02:27, 1 February 2023 (UTC) | |||
== Why you blocked me == | |||
What kind of mistake I have done from my side. Please explain ] (]) 17:24, 12 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
:@] you are not blocked, and if you do have a block message it surely shouldn't be pointing you to this talk page. — ] <sup>]</sup> 17:38, 12 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
== Adding the pillars as bullet points == | |||
I recently added the pillars as bullet points, but I marked the edit as minor in error, so I've reverted my own edit and removed them. I think that I should have asked here before adding them. Should the pillars be added as bullet points? ] (]) 11:58, 15 August 2024 (UTC) | |||
:Saw the bullet points and was unsure about keeping them. Since the five pillars page is already linked it seems too much duplication as some of the points they make are already covered in this short pages' text. ] (]) 12:22, 15 August 2024 (UTC) | |||
== 25th anniversary == | |||
As it 16 months and a couple of days to the 25th anniversary - when will the planning for the celebrations start? | |||
== राजनेता == | |||
Is it known how many of the earliest users are still around, and likely figures for numbers (which will only ever be a fraction of the 20 year members and likewise down the 15, 10 and 5 year participants levels for a variety of reasons - including persons shifting partially or wholly to elsewhere in the Wikiverse) - and at what point will the Misplaced Pages equivalent to ] become viable? ] (]) 14:12, 12 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
श्रवण कुमार ] ] (]) 05:54, 24 July 2021 (UTC) |
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Opening sentence
"Misplaced Pages is an online free content encyclopedia project helping to create a world in which everyone can freely share in the sum of all knowledge."
Hmm, sounds like a load of marketing wank and not the introduction to a worthwhile encyclopedia article. MinorProphet (talk) 03:49, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
- I've suggested this revision—which seems a bit more accurate, fixes a bit of punctuation ("free-content" is an adjective here), and may be sufficiently less vainglorious (😉) :
- Misplaced Pages is an online free-content encyclopedia helping to create a world where everyone can freely share and access knowledge.
- – AndyFielding (talk) 02:29, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
- Isn't that the uncyclopedia's motto? Deven McEwen (talk) 17:29, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- The page Misplaced Pages:About is not an encyclopedia article. Note the prefix
Misplaced Pages:
in the page's name – it's a page in the project namespace. —andrybak (talk) 13:58, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
Redesigning the About page
Please see discussion at the idea lab at Misplaced Pages:Village_pump_(idea_lab)#Redesigning_the_About_page. Interstellarity (talk) 15:43, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
- As the discussion is now archived, not sure where else to post this. The new version is (bluntly) a miserable shadow of its former self. While the former had visually interesting media and statistical information, the new version is just a boring plain wall of text and links. I honestly initially took the changes for vandalism given how awkwardly the page ends. Given the size and radical effect of the change, I'd recommend a RfC. SchizoidNightmares (talk) 01:40, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
Given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow!
This has been at the bottom of the page for awhile. I don't know why it says "bugs", and how are they shallow. I may be missing something in thinking this is a good Zen mind twister but has no other meaning (generational gap? is it a meme?). Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 03:19, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
- Randy Kryn, this phrase is Linus's law. —andrybak (talk) 14:18, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks Andrybak, first I've heard of that. It seems a little inside-baseball to act as the "big finish" of the Misplaced Pages:About article, and I'd guess it tends to confuse more than just me if someone doesn't know the term. Still seems a slightly confusing way of ending the introduction of the site to newcomers. Randy Kryn (talk) 15:29, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
- Then again, computer people will know its meaning and recognize the term, so I'm just reacting as a non-computer savvy user. Thanks again for the education. Randy Kryn (talk) 16:18, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
- I went to add a wisdom of the crowd link to further explain the point of the Linus's law quote and ended up editing and reordering the last paragraph for concept flow and brevity, and then put in a paragraph break. Seems to work. Randy Kryn (talk) 04:41, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
- Then again, computer people will know its meaning and recognize the term, so I'm just reacting as a non-computer savvy user. Thanks again for the education. Randy Kryn (talk) 16:18, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks Andrybak, first I've heard of that. It seems a little inside-baseball to act as the "big finish" of the Misplaced Pages:About article, and I'd guess it tends to confuse more than just me if someone doesn't know the term. Still seems a slightly confusing way of ending the introduction of the site to newcomers. Randy Kryn (talk) 15:29, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
Outdated
The version is true for the period 2001-19. In 2019, however, it was resolved that all active porn actors will be gradually eliminated from Misplaced Pages claiming insufficient notability. Thus, one "branch of knowledge" is blocked, the branch accounting for half of internet traffic.
Since 2019, Misplaced Pages's purpose is usually "to satisfy" and sometimes to frustrate curious minds by acting as a widely accessible and 💕 that contains information on many branches of knowledge and avoids information on selected branches. The opening citation should be adjusted too, as much changed since Sanger said it:
“Imagine a world in which every single person on the planet is given free access to most of human knowledge and devoid of access to some of this knowledge. That's what we're doing.” — 2019 consensus--Maxaxa (talk) 21:44, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Maxaxax Could you clarify your position on the issue further? CactiStaccingCrane 14:59, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- Since 2019, there is at least one branch of knowledge de facto censored from Misplaced Pages - active porn actors. Officially, they fail notability; in practice, the notability is made high enough for total deletion of porn actors who rose to prominence ever since.
- The issue passed long discussion and request for comment and the arbitration request was speedy declined. Since 2019, Misplaced Pages factually has a new policy - no longer all branches of knowledge. I think this page must be adjusted to the new policy. Maxaxa (talk) 16:28, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Maxaxax I think you you go to the WP:Village pump and discuss about the issue, which I think it is far more effective than trying to make a WP:POINTY proposal at this page. I think more people will listen to you if you raise your complaints in a more respectful manner. CactiStaccingCrane 00:12, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
- It does not matter how many people would listen, this policy is from above and it disregarded many counter-arguments by other people. It would be more respectful if Misplaced Pages honestly announced changes in its policy and adjusted related pages instead of abusing the rules of notability. Maxaxa (talk) 02:27, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Maxaxax I think you you go to the WP:Village pump and discuss about the issue, which I think it is far more effective than trying to make a WP:POINTY proposal at this page. I think more people will listen to you if you raise your complaints in a more respectful manner. CactiStaccingCrane 00:12, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
Why you blocked me
What kind of mistake I have done from my side. Please explain Rahulsoman (talk) 17:24, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Rahulsoman you are not blocked, and if you do have a block message it surely shouldn't be pointing you to this talk page. — xaosflux 17:38, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
Adding the pillars as bullet points
I recently added the pillars as bullet points, but I marked the edit as minor in error, so I've reverted my own edit and removed them. I think that I should have asked here before adding them. Should the pillars be added as bullet points? Random56653 (talk) 11:58, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Saw the bullet points and was unsure about keeping them. Since the five pillars page is already linked it seems too much duplication as some of the points they make are already covered in this short pages' text. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:22, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
25th anniversary
As it 16 months and a couple of days to the 25th anniversary - when will the planning for the celebrations start?
Is it known how many of the earliest users are still around, and likely figures for numbers (which will only ever be a fraction of the 20 year members and likewise down the 15, 10 and 5 year participants levels for a variety of reasons - including persons shifting partially or wholly to elsewhere in the Wikiverse) - and at what point will the Misplaced Pages equivalent to List of longest-reigning monarchs become viable? Jackiespeel (talk) 14:12, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
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