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== Recommended updates == |
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== Improving this BLP article == |
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Editor Dough Weller, I have made the following editing: |
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1)To prevent discriminations (see, e.g., the article on Sir Roger Penrose https://en.wikipedia.org/Roger_Penrose) I have added the title of "Sir" only once at the very top (for documentation, see the "Honors" in the CV , citations being available in numerous independent sources, such as the website of the international conference in Osaka, Japan https://www.scientificfederation.com/chemical-engineering-catalysis/speakers.php , numerous citations available on request); |
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2) I have removed the second line "Mainstream scientists dismiss his theories as fringe science." and replaced with "originator of hadronic mechanics and chemistry" because mainstream scientists do not consider "fringe science" a lifelong dedication to the verification of the EPR Argument, and also because the current line is demeaning for the Unites States of America according to countless complaints on record throughout two decades. |
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3) In the 6th line of Biography I changed |
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"a one man organization, the Institute for Basic Research" into "the Institute for Basic Research " because the "one man" |
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claim is grossly disproved by the main page of the IBR i-b-r(dot)org/ that has been listing for years a division in Israel headed by Prof. P. Mandell, a division in Kazakstan headed by Prof. A. K. Aringazin, and a division in Nigeria headed by Prof. A. O. E . Animalu, while |
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stating from its inception " The Institute Statute does not allow the disclosure of their names, but their work can be identified by searching the various scientific archives under". |
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4) The word "Jewish" physicists etc. has been removed everywhere and replaced with "mainstream orthodox" physicists, etc. because: the word "Jewish" it does not exist in Il Grande Grido; Santilli son in law is Jewish; Santilli is known to have supported several Jewish physicists for their participation to meeting; and the recent International Teleconference on Einstein's Determinism (http://eprdebates.org/epr-conference-2020.php) has been organized by Santilli in collaboration with the Family of Israel Foundation (http://www.i-b-r.org/translational-medicine.htm); |
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5) The entire paragraph starting with "After an explosion..." because Santilli's lawsuit against Frank Israel . contains documentation and testimonials that Magnegas stockholders, including myself, had suffered financial losses because of misrepresentations in Misplaced Pages's article on Santilli suitable for shorting the stock. In fact, the bottles that caused the indicated accidents were delivered by Magnegas Distributors and not by the factory that, as such has been removed by any and all liabilities. In any case, the listing in an article dedicated to a scientist of deaths occurred several years after the scientist left the company is blatantly questionable. |
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6) I have added information on Thunder Energies Corporation, whose documentation is available in the corporate SEC filings (that I cannot list here due to the prohibition to edit the references), the sale of the public shell and the transfer of the ownership of all technologies to the private company |
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Hadronic Technologies Corporation for possible applications of the main technologies to National Security. |
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7) I have removed completely the statement starting with "In 2017 an article...." because of the evident loss of credibility by Misplaced Pages treating equivocal internet gossip in an article that is supposed to be eventually dedicated to the proof of the most important prediction by Einstein. |
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8) I added the section on Honors from the CV as quoted independently by various sources. We believe it is demeaning for Misplaced Pages not to quote honors received by the scientists who spent his research life to prove that Einstein was right. |
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9) I added in the section "Selected Publications" the main papers presenting Santilli's claimed verifications of the EPR and I relisted, for their understanding, Santilli's "Elements of Hadronic Mechanics" that were removed by the article for reasons damaging Misplaced Pages because, according to the record under History, said volumes were accepted by t he Ukraine Academy of Science following severe reviews by highly qualified scientists, such as t he late Klimik, Sissakian, and others. I also added |
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mathematical, physical and chemical papers published in refereed journals in which Santilli is not an editor, which papers are essential for the understanding of the apparent EPR verifications. |
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In closing allow me to recommend that the article be completed wiuth a section entitled "Research" since all visitors are expecting news on Santilli's apparent verifications of the EPR argument, while now there is none. I can draft this section, but I would need access to the References. Thank you. Jolli321 <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 19:18, 22 October 2020. NOTE: My above specified editing of Santilli's 'article' was removed by David Epstein in about three minutes following its posting. (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Can please some more administrative persons who can decide have a look at the above proposed change. I find the page insulting, too, so it should be overworked. Till Meyenburg <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 16:43, 4 April 2023 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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I see that JZG just deleted my edit without providing any rationale whatsoever. My rationale was simple, improve this article of a biography of a living person by adding the fact that this former Harvard scientist’s book, which allegedly documented potential scientific corruption / abuse of tax payer funds at US universities and physics laboratories, was banned from Harvard area bookstores. It clearly states that in the Harvard Crimson article which has been cited as a valid source on this article for years. |
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<ref>https://www.thecrimson.com/article/1985/3/20/the-politics-of-science-pbmbost-ameficans/</ref> |
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Agreed. This page needs an unbiased administrative review in the interest of Misplaced Pages standing and its role of information vehicle. It is now evident that nobody has been and is allowed to make changes or additions in order to make a fair representation of the contributions of Prof, Santilli who, at age 87, keeps working and publishing in peer-reviewed journals such as Ratio Mathematica 1)<ref>https://eiris.it/ojs/index.php/ratiomathematica/article/view/477</ref> and Springer Nature Scientific Reports 2) <ref>Sci Rep 12 , 20674 (2022). https://doi.org/10.1038/s41598-022-24970-4</ref>on subjects that, everybody can see, are vital to science and therefore society .The focus of this Misplaced Pages article is on events presented in negative light only that occurred almost 10 years ago. His recent article published by Nature and his work on the EPR argument point out to new horizons that lead to possible solutions to the crisis of our environment. By looking at the editing history the page, it is evident that nobody has been able to add this information to Prof. Santilli's page because Misplaced Pages remains stubbornly stuck on the defamation campaign fueled years ago by bloggers and stock market profiteers. Misplaced Pages is the loser here. ] (]) 21:59, 23 June 2023 (UTC)Tom Yeager] (]) |
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The only thing I can think of that is more intellectually dishonest than banning a book, is banning the mention of the banned book. |
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I am reverting the edit I made to the article and I kindly ask anyone who feels the BLP article, about a dissident scientist who claims his work has been suppressed, would not be improved by allowing a cited reference about the actual suppression of his criticism against those he alleges suppressed his work, to make their case here in the talk section before undoing my edit. Thanks. ] (]) 20:17, 5 December 2018 (UTC)DCsghost |
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3) In the 6th line of Biography I changed
"a one man organization, the Institute for Basic Research" into "the Institute for Basic Research " because the "one man"
7) I have removed completely the statement starting with "In 2017 an article...." because of the evident loss of credibility by Misplaced Pages treating equivocal internet gossip in an article that is supposed to be eventually dedicated to the proof of the most important prediction by Einstein.
8) I added the section on Honors from the CV as quoted independently by various sources. We believe it is demeaning for Misplaced Pages not to quote honors received by the scientists who spent his research life to prove that Einstein was right.
9) I added in the section "Selected Publications" the main papers presenting Santilli's claimed verifications of the EPR and I relisted, for their understanding, Santilli's "Elements of Hadronic Mechanics" that were removed by the article for reasons damaging Misplaced Pages because, according to the record under History, said volumes were accepted by t he Ukraine Academy of Science following severe reviews by highly qualified scientists, such as t he late Klimik, Sissakian, and others. I also added
mathematical, physical and chemical papers published in refereed journals in which Santilli is not an editor, which papers are essential for the understanding of the apparent EPR verifications.
In closing allow me to recommend that the article be completed wiuth a section entitled "Research" since all visitors are expecting news on Santilli's apparent verifications of the EPR argument, while now there is none. I can draft this section, but I would need access to the References. Thank you. Jolli321 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jolli321 (talk • contribs) 19:18, 22 October 2020. NOTE: My above specified editing of Santilli's 'article' was removed by David Epstein in about three minutes following its posting. (UTC)
Can please some more administrative persons who can decide have a look at the above proposed change. I find the page insulting, too, so it should be overworked. Till Meyenburg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:908:393:31C0:0:0:0:36D9 (talk) 16:43, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
Agreed. This page needs an unbiased administrative review in the interest of Misplaced Pages standing and its role of information vehicle. It is now evident that nobody has been and is allowed to make changes or additions in order to make a fair representation of the contributions of Prof, Santilli who, at age 87, keeps working and publishing in peer-reviewed journals such as Ratio Mathematica 1) and Springer Nature Scientific Reports 2) on subjects that, everybody can see, are vital to science and therefore society .The focus of this Misplaced Pages article is on events presented in negative light only that occurred almost 10 years ago. His recent article published by Nature and his work on the EPR argument point out to new horizons that lead to possible solutions to the crisis of our environment. By looking at the editing history the page, it is evident that nobody has been able to add this information to Prof. Santilli's page because Misplaced Pages remains stubbornly stuck on the defamation campaign fueled years ago by bloggers and stock market profiteers. Misplaced Pages is the loser here. 139.55.184.2 (talk) 21:59, 23 June 2023 (UTC)Tom Yeager139.55.184.2 (talk)
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