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== Sad news ==


I just got word from his brother that Angus passed away early on Friday morning. He had been battling ] for some time. I knew him both on and off Misplaced Pages, and am so sad that he is gone - ] <sup>]</sup> 12:35, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
== ] ==
: Sad indeed. ]. --] (]) 12:43, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
: - ] <sup>]</sup> 13:52, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
: How sad. RIP, Angus. --] | (]) 17:40, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
: A terrible loss, you will be remembered and missed. Rest in Peace, friend. ] (<small>]</small>) 18:40, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
: Urf. And cancer robs us of another one... ] - ] 18:56, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
: I'm sorry to hear this. I never knew Angus personally, but I've seen him around many times over the years. He will be missed. ] ] 04:17, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
: Angus was kind and helpful and did a mountain a good work. We will remember him. ] (]) 21:39, 19 November 2019 (UTC)


I'm trying to get the above project active again. If you like to participate, please add you name to the project page. ] (]) 15:46, 22 January 2012 (UTC) Really sorry to learn of this. Angus was a bit of a mentor for me when I started editing Misplaced Pages. ] (]) 18:33, 20 November 2019 (UTC)


: Funeral details - ] <sup>]</sup> 03:06, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
:Hello. I can't see I'll be having much time over the next few months so I'm not likely to take part. All the best, ] ] 17:17, 22 January 2012 (UTC)


I never knew Angus in real life, but I looked up to him as a Wikipedian. He was always kind and thoughtful. He contributed so much in content and discussion. I wish he were still here. Rest in peace Angus. --] (]) 02:23, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
== FYI ==


I found the links to Robert Kirk over at ] very helpful, and I copied them over to ]. Thanks. ] (]) 11:33, 3 February 2012 (UTC) * Condolences to the family. ]! -] (]) 05:28, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
* I just saw this in the Signpost; sad news indeed. Angus was an inspiration to me in my early days editing here, and a fine editor. He will be missed. ] (] - ] - ]) 13:16, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
* So sad to loose another great Wikipedian. All&nbsp;the&nbsp;best: '']&nbsp;]'',<small> 23:15, 5 January 2020 (UTC).</small><br />
* Condolences to the family and the en.wiki community. --] (]) 11:47, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
* Angus was a fine man, a dedicated and insightful Wikipedian. He will be greatly missed. ''']''' <small>(])</small> 23:22, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
* What a great friend and example Angus was to us with his steady, intelligent editing (very sound in Anglo-Saxon matters), his kindly support and his looked-for seasonal greetings. It is hard and very sad to part with him, but it was a privilege to travel here in his company. ] (]) 15:07, 17 March 2020 (UTC)


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:Thanks. ] ] 11:53, 3 February 2012 (UTC)


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<center>We will remember your contributions and your service. Thank you. ].
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== MSU Interview == == Precious anniversary ==
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We'll remember you and your work here! --] (]) 08:38, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
:Just thought I'd add here, didn't know Angus at all, virtually or otherwise as far as I know, no doubt I have benefitted unknowingly from many of his contributions. Anyway came here as a result of searching through the many Scottish political maps he created on Commons, something I often view and use but have no experience in creating - another area where his input is clearly missed. So just thought I'd weigh in to the recognition of his efforts. My wife had lymphoma, must have been around the same time, a wee sneaky invasive cancer (not that any type is nice). Thankfully she survived. As anyone been awarded the Quaich yet? Seems a shame to create it but not to award it. ] (]) 19:00, 2 April 2021 (UTC)


== The Quaich ==
Dear Angusmclellan,


:I can't think of what at the moment, but it would be nice and fitting if we could find some way of honoring / institutionalising his memory in some way, perhaps via one of the WikiProjects most associated with his work (Middle Ages, Scotland, etc). Some sort of Angusmclellan (Memorial) award or barnstar? ] (<small>]</small>) 18:15, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
My name is Jonathan Obar ], I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Misplaced Pages administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community ], where it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.


::An excellent idea. I never knew Angus personally, but what limited interaction I had with him on WP was always helpful and extremely positive. How about the "McLellan Quaich" for excellent contributions to Scottish coverage in Misplaced Pages? Just a thought. --] ] 20:37, 26 November 2019 (UTC)


:::The 'McLellan Quaich' sounds great! ] (<small>]</small>) 12:52, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
So a few things about the interviews:
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::::A very sad loss indeed. Angus was knowledgeable, able, kindly and disinclined to get involved in drama - I echo Brianann's comments above and support the 'McLellan Quaich' idea. ] ]] 16:42, 30 November 2019 (UTC)


PS Here's a start:
Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at obar@msu.edu (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your name ] instead.
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:::::Deacon's idea is very fitting and Cactus.man's proposal for a ''McLellan Quaich'' coupled with Ben MacDui's design of such an award are ideal. --] | (]) 19:34, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at obar@msu.edu. I will be more than happy to speak with you.


::::::Thanks to {{yo|Ben MacDui}} for knocking up a prototype award. Can I suggest using the following image instead: ]. I think it's an improvement because it's a cleaner representation of the quality of siversmith work and celtic imagery typically crafted into the handles.
Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.


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Sincerely,
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Jonathan Obar --] (]) 04:19, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

== Happy Adminship Anniversary ==

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== Horror story ==

I am rather horrified to discover that ] still begins with Kenneth MacAlpin. This is the kind of thicko pseudo-history that makes Misplaced Pages look incompetent as an academic resource. Do you have any suggestions? As far as I can see, most of the experts in medieval history have (unsurprisingly) abandonned Misplaced Pages, so it is very hard to know who on earth to turn to. --] (]) 04:47, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

:My qualifications for offering assistance are hardly impressive, but here is a suggestion. The distinction between "Scotland" and precursor entities would seem to be a process rather than a single event, so, wherever the list starts the lead just needs to point readers to the ] and ] with a brief comment and a nod to Woolf's ''From Pictland to Alba, 789–1070'' p. 320ff or similar. ] ]] 13:07, 12 May 2012 (UTC) PS Happy birthday Angus.

::Not sure if I can give much more help than this, but it is certainly an issue. I seem to remember somewhere a form of words that indicated that names (and dates) were traditional, which might be a solution, but I cannot remember where. Otherwise breaking the list up, as suggested above, may be the best solution.--<span style="font-family:Black Chancery;text:grey 0.3em 0.3em 0.1em;">''']''' (]) 13:56, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Most lists of British monarchs that I've come across list English, and even Anglo-Saxon monarchs, but tend to neglect Scottish and Welsh ones...--] (]) 14:36, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

I think Ben MacDui and Sabrebd have it right. It's not like Denmark and its ''semi-legendary'' and ''legendary'' and more a case of ''it depends what you mean by Scotland''. ] ] 14:32, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

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== Seasons greetings... ==

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::::::] ] 22:38, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
:Thanks very much! Hope you're having a great day today and wishing you all the best for 2013. Cheers! ] ] 23:05, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

== Happy New Year ==

Season's Greetings, Angus, Hope all is well and that you are keeping a tight grip on matters Early Mediaeval! I'm staying well out of it but watch admiringly from a safe distance! All the best for 2013 ] (]) 23:57, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

:All the best to you and yours. Hope you are keeping well! ] ] 02:13, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

== Aldfrith of Northumbria ==

Just a message to let you know that I've scheduled ] as the TFA ]. Hope this is OK. I checked for deadlinks first and one was reporting dead but , so I don't know what the problem there was... Regards, ]] 00:18, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

:Oh! That's very nice. I shall keep an eye on it. Thanks! ] ] 02:12, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

== Precious ==

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'''great learning'''<br />
Thank you for quality articles on people of the ], such as ], a king and a "man of great learning", and for quoting "Reason is, and ought only to be the slave of the passions", - you are an ]!


--] (]) 10:26, 27 January 2013 (UTC) ::::::: Brilliant! ] (<small>]</small>) 16:19, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
:::::::{{yo|Cactus.man}} Excellent. ] ]] 18:53, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
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Thought I would advance the Quaich a bit so created a template, ], to make its issue a bit easier. It's ] code but modified the colours in line with ]. Any changes needed?--] | (]) 15:17, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
:You're too kind. And anyway, I am really a semi-retired Wikipedian these days. But I'll be back! Until then, very best regards ] ] 00:58, 1 February 2013 (UTC)


Just saw this, after looking at ]. And I think the idea is a nice one. As the image isn't a "barnstar", I added the award to ]. I'll add a link to ]'s template as well. - <b>]</b> 04:00, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
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Sad news

I just got word from his brother that Angus passed away early on Friday morning. He had been battling lymphoma for some time. I knew him both on and off Misplaced Pages, and am so sad that he is gone - Alison 12:35, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

Sad indeed. Look above. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:43, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
link - Alison 13:52, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
How sad. RIP, Angus. --Bill Reid | (talk) 17:40, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
A terrible loss, you will be remembered and missed. Rest in Peace, friend. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 18:40, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
Urf. And cancer robs us of another one... Ealdgyth - Talk 18:56, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
I'm sorry to hear this. I never knew Angus personally, but I've seen him around many times over the years. He will be missed. Kurtis 04:17, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
Angus was kind and helpful and did a mountain a good work. We will remember him. Haukur (talk) 21:39, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Really sorry to learn of this. Angus was a bit of a mentor for me when I started editing Misplaced Pages. Finn Rindahl (talk) 18:33, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Funeral details here - Alison 03:06, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

I never knew Angus in real life, but I looked up to him as a Wikipedian. He was always kind and thoughtful. He contributed so much in content and discussion. I wish he were still here. Rest in peace Angus. --Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 02:23, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

In memoriam

  • "A candle"
  • "Flowers"
  • "The Japanese peace bell at the headquarters of the United Nations"
  • "An eternal flame"
We will remember your contributions and your service. Thank you. Requiescat in pace.
↠Pine (✉) 00:08, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious
Eight years!

We'll remember you and your work here! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:38, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Just thought I'd add here, didn't know Angus at all, virtually or otherwise as far as I know, no doubt I have benefitted unknowingly from many of his contributions. Anyway came here as a result of searching through the many Scottish political maps he created on Commons, something I often view and use but have no experience in creating - another area where his input is clearly missed. So just thought I'd weigh in to the recognition of his efforts. My wife had lymphoma, must have been around the same time, a wee sneaky invasive cancer (not that any type is nice). Thankfully she survived. As anyone been awarded the Quaich yet? Seems a shame to create it but not to award it. Crowsus (talk) 19:00, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

The Quaich

I can't think of what at the moment, but it would be nice and fitting if we could find some way of honoring / institutionalising his memory in some way, perhaps via one of the WikiProjects most associated with his work (Middle Ages, Scotland, etc). Some sort of Angusmclellan (Memorial) award or barnstar? Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 18:15, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
An excellent idea. I never knew Angus personally, but what limited interaction I had with him on WP was always helpful and extremely positive. How about the "McLellan Quaich" for excellent contributions to Scottish coverage in Misplaced Pages? Just a thought. --Cactus.man ✍ 20:37, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
The 'McLellan Quaich' sounds great! Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 12:52, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
A very sad loss indeed. Angus was knowledgeable, able, kindly and disinclined to get involved in drama - I echo Brianann's comments above and support the 'McLellan Quaich' idea. Ben MacDui 16:42, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

PS Here's a start:

The McLellan Quaich
Awarded to 'User:xx' for outstanding contributions to Scottish coverage in Misplaced Pages.
Deacon's idea is very fitting and Cactus.man's proposal for a McLellan Quaich coupled with Ben MacDui's design of such an award are ideal. --Bill Reid | (talk) 19:34, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
Thanks to @Ben MacDui: for knocking up a prototype award. Can I suggest using the following image instead: File: Quaich.jpg. I think it's an improvement because it's a cleaner representation of the quality of siversmith work and celtic imagery typically crafted into the handles.
The McLellan Quaich
Awarded to 'User:xx' for outstanding contributions to Scottish coverage in Misplaced Pages.
Cactus.man ✍ 22:38, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
Brilliant! Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 16:19, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
@Cactus.man: Excellent. Ben MacDui 18:53, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

Thought I would advance the Quaich a bit so created a template, Template:The McLellan Quaich, to make its issue a bit easier. It's Cactus.man's code but modified the colours in line with Misplaced Pages: Talk page templates. Any changes needed?--Bill Reid | (talk) 15:17, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

Just saw this, after looking at Misplaced Pages:Deceased Wikipedians. And I think the idea is a nice one. As the image isn't a "barnstar", I added the award to Misplaced Pages:Personal user awards/Topics. I'll add a link to User:Billreid's template as well. - jc37 04:00, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

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