Misplaced Pages

Talk:Babi Yar: Difference between revisions

Article snapshot taken from[REDACTED] with creative commons attribution-sharealike license. Give it a read and then ask your questions in the chat. We can research this topic together.
Browse history interactively← Previous editContent deleted Content addedVisualWikitext
Revision as of 00:13, 30 September 2023 editMellk (talk | contribs)Extended confirmed users61,731 editsm →Requested move 29 September 2023← Previous edit Latest revision as of 14:02, 22 December 2024 edit undoLowercase sigmabot III (talk | contribs)Bots, Template editors2,311,942 editsm Archiving 1 discussion(s) to Talk:Babi Yar/Archive 1) (bot 
(38 intermediate revisions by 25 users not shown)
Line 1: Line 1:
{{Talk header|archive_age=100|archive_bot=Lowercase sigmabot III}} {{Talk header}}
{{Vital article|class=B|level=5|topic=History}} {{WikiProject banner shell|class=B|vital=yes|1=
⚫ {{WikiProject Ukraine|importance=High}}
{{WikiProjectBannerShell|1=
{{WikiProject Ukraine|class=B|importance=High}} {{WikiProject Russia|importance=High|hist=y|mil=y}}
{{WikiProject Russia|class=B|importance=High|hist=y|mil=y}} {{WikiProject Germany|importance=mid}}
{{WikiProject Germany|class=B|b1=7|b2=y|b3=y|b4=y|b5=y|importance=mid}} {{WikiProject Jewish history|importance=High}}
{{WikiProject Jewish history|class=B|importance=High}} {{WikiProject Death|importance=High}}
{{WikiProject Death|class=B|importance=High}} {{WikiProject Soviet Union|importance=high}}
{{WikiProject Soviet Union|class=b|importance=high}} {{WikiProject Politics|importance=high}}
{{WikiProject Politics|class=b|importance=high|fascism=yes|fascism-importance=high}} {{WikiProject Military history|class=b|b1=y|b2=y|b3=y|b4=y|b5=y|German-task-force=yes|Russian-task-force=yes|WWII-task-force=yes}}
{{WikiProject Geography|importance=high}}
{{WPMILHIST|class=b|b1=y|b2=y|b3=y|b4=y|b5=y|German-task-force=yes|Russian-task-force=yes|WWII-task-force=yes}}
{{WikiProject Geography|class=b|importance=high}} {{WikiProject Geology|importance=high}}
⚫ {{WikiProject Geology|class=b|importance=high}}
}} }}
{{OnThisDay|date1=2004-09-29|oldid1=16335434|date2=2005-09-29|oldid2=24336225|date3=2006-09-29|oldid3=78522029|date4=2007-09-29|oldid4=160640201|date5=2008-09-29|oldid5=241684738|date6=2009-09-29|oldid6=316865135|date7=2010-09-29|oldid7=387529334|date8=2012-09-29|oldid8=515083244|date9=2014-09-29|oldid9=627480574|date10=2016-09-29|oldid10=741782668|date11=2019-09-29|oldid11=918488517|date12=2021-09-29|oldid12=1047152846}} {{OnThisDay|date1=2004-09-29|oldid1=16335434|date2=2005-09-29|oldid2=24336225|date3=2006-09-29|oldid3=78522029|date4=2007-09-29|oldid4=160640201|date5=2008-09-29|oldid5=241684738|date6=2009-09-29|oldid6=316865135|date7=2010-09-29|oldid7=387529334|date8=2012-09-29|oldid8=515083244|date9=2014-09-29|oldid9=627480574|date10=2016-09-29|oldid10=741782668|date11=2019-09-29|oldid11=918488517|date12=2021-09-29|oldid12=1047152846}}
Line 23: Line 22:
|archive = Talk:Babi Yar/Archive %(counter)d |archive = Talk:Babi Yar/Archive %(counter)d
}} }}
{{old move|date=29 September 2023|destination=Babyn Yar|result=not moved|link=Special:Permalink/1178871648#Requested move 29 September 2023}}

{{archivebox|auto=yes|search=yes}} {{archivebox|auto=yes|search=yes}}
{{Broken anchors|links= {{Broken anchors|links=
Line 28: Line 29:
}} }}


==Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 November 2024==
⚫ == Documents in the book ==
The Russian text for Над Бабьим Яром памятников нет is currently in transliteraiton. Can we put it in the original with transliteration beside?
—NJJ2100 <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 20:40, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


:I tried putting it in. Let's see if it sticks. ] (]) 05:13, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
⚫ The terrible documents written by murderous Germans who acted in Babi Yar can be written in the book “The good old days” by Ernst Klee and others.
::Awesome; thanks! Looks like it's sticking for now :) ] (]) 18:59, 30 November 2024 (UTC)


== Name change ==


{{Edit extended-protected|Babi Yar|answered=yes}}


⚫ == Documents in the book ==
<!--Don't remove anything above this line.-->


⚫ The terrible documents written by murderous Germans who acted in Babi Yar can be written in the book “The good old days” by Ernst Klee and others.


== Babi Yar Park in Denver, Colorado ==
* '''What I think should be changed (format using {{tl|textdiff}})''': The page name should be changed to Babyn Yar
* '''Why it should be changed''': Babi Yar is the Russian spelling in English; Babyn Yar is the Ukrainian spelling in English. This is an area in Ukraine, therefore it should be named according to its country of origin.
* '''References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button)''': the very page on which I’m requesting an edit. <ref> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Babi_Yar</ref>

] (]) 14:14, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
<!--Don't remove anything below this line-->
{{reftalk}}
:] '''Not done:'''<!-- Template:EEp --> Please read ]. ] (]) 18:54, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

== bullet archaeology ==

I read that a Christian priest started a project of searching for bullets, since the Germans had a policy of 1 bullet per Jew, and so was able to determine in various small and unrecorded locations throughout Poland where and how many Jews were murdered. Has anything like this been done or planned in Babi Yar? ] (]) 19:29, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

== Requested move 29 September 2023 ==

{{requested move/dated|Babyn Yar}}

] → {{no redirect|Babyn Yar}} – Babyn Yar is located in Ukraine, a country which in recent years and for obvious reasons has consistently sought to prioritize the use of Ukrainian for place names, rather than Russian. I note that Babyn Yar is located near ], and that Kyiv is the primary name for that page, not Kiev, which is a redirect. I therefore respectfully ask that this page be renamed to Babyn Yar, and Babi Yar be turned into a redirect. ] (]) 23:56, 29 September 2023 (UTC)


Babi Yar Park in Denver, Colorado, was dedicated in October, 1963, as a memorial to the massacred Jews and others at Babyn Yar ravine in Kiev, Ukraine, beginning on Yom Kippur in 1941. The anniversary of the initial massacre is celebrated every year on the anniversary of that massacre at Babi Yar Park. ] (]) 21:50, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' per ]. The Russian transliteration would be "Baby Yar" or "Babiy Yar". ] (]) 00:11, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 14:02, 22 December 2024

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Babi Yar article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.
Article policies
Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL
Archives: 1Auto-archiving period: 3 months 
This  level-5 vital article is rated B-class on Misplaced Pages's content assessment scale.
It is of interest to the following WikiProjects:
WikiProject iconUkraine High‑importance
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of WikiProject Ukraine, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Ukraine on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.UkraineWikipedia:WikiProject UkraineTemplate:WikiProject UkraineUkraine
HighThis article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.
WikiProject iconRussia: History / Military High‑importance
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of WikiProject Russia, a WikiProject dedicated to coverage of Russia on Misplaced Pages.
To participate: Feel free to edit the article attached to this page, join up at the project page, or contribute to the project discussion.RussiaWikipedia:WikiProject RussiaTemplate:WikiProject RussiaRussia
HighThis article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.
Taskforce icon
This article is supported by the history of Russia task force.
Taskforce icon
This article is supported by the Russian, Soviet, and CIS military history task force.
WikiProject iconGermany Mid‑importance
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of WikiProject Germany, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Germany on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.GermanyWikipedia:WikiProject GermanyTemplate:WikiProject GermanyGermany
MidThis article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.
WikiProject iconJewish history High‑importance
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of WikiProject Jewish history, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Jewish history on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Jewish historyWikipedia:WikiProject Jewish historyTemplate:WikiProject Jewish historyJewish history-related
HighThis article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.
WikiProject iconDeath High‑importance
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of WikiProject Death, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Death on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.DeathWikipedia:WikiProject DeathTemplate:WikiProject DeathDeath
HighThis article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.
WikiProject iconSoviet Union High‑importance
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of WikiProject Soviet Union, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Soviet UnionWikipedia:WikiProject Soviet UnionTemplate:WikiProject Soviet UnionSoviet Union
HighThis article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.
WikiProject iconPolitics High‑importance
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of WikiProject Politics, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of politics on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PoliticsWikipedia:WikiProject PoliticsTemplate:WikiProject Politicspolitics
HighThis article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.
WikiProject iconMilitary history: European / German / Russian & Soviet / World War II
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of the Military history WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.Military historyWikipedia:WikiProject Military historyTemplate:WikiProject Military historymilitary history
B checklist
This article has been checked against the following criteria for B-class status:
  1. Referencing and citation: criterion met
  2. Coverage and accuracy: criterion met
  3. Structure: criterion met
  4. Grammar and style: criterion met
  5. Supporting materials: criterion met
Associated task forces:
/ 
Taskforce icon
European military history task force
Taskforce icon
German military history task force
Taskforce icon
Russian, Soviet and CIS military history task force
Taskforce icon
World War II task force
WikiProject iconGeography High‑importance
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of WikiProject Geography, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of geography on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.GeographyWikipedia:WikiProject GeographyTemplate:WikiProject Geographygeography
HighThis article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.
WikiProject Geography To-do list:

 Here are some tasks awaiting attention:
WikiProject iconGeology High‑importance
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of WikiProject Geology, an attempt at creating a standardized, informative, comprehensive and easy-to-use geology resource. If you would like to participate, you can choose to edit this article, or visit the project page for more information.GeologyWikipedia:WikiProject GeologyTemplate:WikiProject GeologyGeology
HighThis article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.
A fact from this article was featured on Misplaced Pages's Main Page in the On this day section on 12 dates. September 29, 2004, September 29, 2005, September 29, 2006, September 29, 2007, September 29, 2008, September 29, 2009, September 29, 2010, September 29, 2012, September 29, 2014, September 29, 2016, September 29, 2019, and September 29, 2021

On 29 September 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Babyn Yar. The result of the discussion was not moved.
Archiving icon
Archives

1


This page has archives. Sections older than 100 days may be automatically archived by Lowercase sigmabot III when more than 3 sections are present.
Tip: Anchors are case-sensitive in most browsers.

This article links to one or more target anchors that no longer exist.

Please help fix the broken anchors. You can remove this template after fixing the problems. | Reporting errors

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 November 2024

The Russian text for Над Бабьим Яром памятников нет is currently in transliteraiton. Can we put it in the original with transliteration beside? —NJJ2100 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Njj2100 (talk • contribs) 20:40, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

I tried putting it in. Let's see if it sticks. DolyaIskrina (talk) 05:13, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
Awesome; thanks! Looks like it's sticking for now :) Njj2100 (talk) 18:59, 30 November 2024 (UTC)


Documents in the book

The terrible documents written by murderous Germans who acted in Babi Yar can be written in the book “The good old days” by Ernst Klee and others.

Babi Yar Park in Denver, Colorado

Babi Yar Park in Denver, Colorado, was dedicated in October, 1963, as a memorial to the massacred Jews and others at Babyn Yar ravine in Kiev, Ukraine, beginning on Yom Kippur in 1941. The anniversary of the initial massacre is celebrated every year on the anniversary of that massacre at Babi Yar Park. AlanGGass (talk) 21:50, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Categories:
Talk:Babi Yar: Difference between revisions Add topic