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farab,- town/area in kurdistan

According to Dr. A. Ravitsky at Hebrew University. Im just geeving his words, not concluding anything.

Sogdian or Turkish ?what?

Sogdian is an Iranian language not turkish !!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.169.49.233 (talk) 04:55, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

He was a turkic philosoph.it is fact Turano'g'lu (talk) 12:31, 1 October 2016 (UTC)


He was an Iranic philosopher, Farab is a Persian word, and Arab historians who studied his works confirmed that he was born to Persian parents. turk nationalists seem like they want to claim every scientist under the sun as "turkic", maybe because you have none of your own :D — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FEA8:5AC0:61:88F7:53D3:E734:C54A (talk) 19:41, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Turks spoke Persian at that time, though, since most (educated) people in that region were at least tri-lingual. In contemporary scholarship, classification of ethnicity is largely based on location, thus "Turks" cannot be classified as such. Because of that, there is a gap, when it comes to Turkic/Turkish writers/scientists.
This however, doesn't say anything about his heritage. Turks and Persians are hard to distinguish at that period anyways. It would be great, to adress this issue and make corections accordingly, instead of having a cultural war over pseudo-national identities, however I do not have time for this. If someone else is interested in that however, I recommand them to look into the construction of "nationality" at the time of al-Farabi. VenusFeuerFalle (talk) 16:24, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

origin of Farabi

He was originally Persian, from the golden age of Islam. He was born from Persian parents and his place of birth is currently in Kazakhstan. He lived in so many cities. There is no evidence of him being Turkish! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.233.2.105 (talk) 07:52, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

many informatiom is available by persian sources that call him turk. his big name alturki and alfarabi. his father name uzlugh. ex. rowzatolsafa. his name is totally turkish. his birth place kazakstan. its very clear who he is Behnam2024 (talk) 15:59, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Dispute

@2A01:C23:899B:0:797D:93C8:EE5:BAFF: Please take your concerns here. HistoryofIran (talk) 13:09, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Problematic use of language

The article, especially the lede, is rife with language that is inappropriate in an encyclopedia. To wit: "He was an impeccable early Islamic philosopher..." and "...His impact on philosophy is undeniable..." (emphases added) Subjective adjectives like these are frowned upon by all relevant style manuals, for use in encyclopedia. I'll give fair warning to anyone who might be willing to clean up the language here, and if no one else steps-up to do it after a month or so, I'll undertake it myself. Bricology (talk) 19:51, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

I can (sort-of) see the issue with the first instance, but the second example of "bias" isn't problematic at all and it most definitely isn't subjective. Al Farabi objectively had an undeniable impact on philosophy in the Islamic world and, by extension, the scholastic school in the Latin West. I don't see the issue here. If it continues to be a problem I think you can submit a request to have a mod look at it. 2001:1970:5163:1200:0:0:0:9A1B (talk) 02:28, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

Farabi and Kara-Khanid Khanate

Neither Nasr & Aminrazavi nor Durant, pp. 253-254, say nothing about Kara-Khanid Khanate, and Farabi died almost half a century before they came to power → Michal Biran (2012). "Ilak-Khanids." Encyclopædia Iranica; C.E. Bosworth (1954–2007). "Ilek-K̲h̲āns or Ḳarak̲h̲ānids." Encyclopaedia of Islam. Fari Dark (talk) 10:24, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

He's of Iranic stock from Faryab, Afghanistan.

End of the debate, Turanists and pan-Turkicist take their claim from a Kurd claiming to be a Barmakid how ironic. From Farabi's own work there's no traces of any Turkic influence. Also Abbasid Caliphate barely reached if not at all Kazakhstan. Transoxiana barely included or did not even include Kazakhstan too. Outside of Ahmad Yasawi a 11th century Turkic poet Kazakhstan got no legitimate claim.


He had Shia influence which was non existent during 9th century Kazakhstan, but not for the 9th century Greater Khorosan. Kazakhstan also never had any known scholar before the 19th century, how can they have only one from the 10th century ?



This is unfair for Faryab province of Afghanistan and an insult to logic.

2A02:8428:809E:6701:F0D7:5A73:115E:BA24 (talk) 22:35, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

many iranian sources said he is turk. ex. rowzatol safa. his father name is uzlugh. his surename is alturki Behnam2024 (talk) 15:47, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Image captions?

Why does the caption for the image of the Iranian stamp feel the need to stress that this is al-Farabi's "imagined face", while the caption under the equally imaginary picture in the Kazakh banknote remains silent, and the medieval European woodcut only admits in a you-have-to-go-looking-for-it pop-up that that artist didn't even bother imagining al-Farabi and just recycled the same picture used for other people? And why is it the medieval European woodcut — probably the least accurate of the three — the one chosen to be the portrait of this guy? 2604:3D09:A984:A600:9489:A8E8:7BC4:92AC (talk) 02:49, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

father name Uzlugh a turkish name

they convict turk for tryıng to change acholars identity but his father name is uzlugh that the writer chaged to a arabic like word but after my edit totally deleted father name so funny that this kind of people wrote wiki. Behnam2024 (talk) 15:39, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

ملیت

فارابی یکی بزرگترین دانشمندان ایرانی است. 2.182.8.200 (talk) 13:58, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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