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| ==What, again?== | |||
| == Regarding retiring... == | |||
| ⚫ | What, again? Sorry to see this, Andy. ] | ] 18:27, 3 November 2024 (UTC). | ||
| == In appreciation == | |||
| ...I was about to ask what happened, and then I looked at your contributions and . I hope you return, since Misplaced Pages is better with you here. But we both know how stressful and unrewarding this site can be. Either way, I wish you well. ] (]) 08:00, 20 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :C'mon Andy there's no way you're really retiring. Also the template has become a joke, owing to its common deployment by editors who return soon afterwards. I assume you're above that, so how about replacing it with the Wikibreak template, which is surely nearer the truth? Anyhoo, I look forward to seeing you back again. ] (]) 18:06, 20 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::Well if he's blaming me, fine. I had nothing to do with the situation. He asked a question and I answered it. Being pissed off isn't a good enough reason to retire. Being discussed in general is not a good enough reason to retire. Being frustrated with the outcome of a DRN is no reason to retire. I gave the exact procedure as it was spelled out to lodge a formal complaint about the editor he had an issue with but if Andy is going to simply accuse others of complicity whenever someone replies, he might need time to cool off. I do suggest re-filing the DRN if he is not happy with the outcome of the last filing as clearly there is reason spelled out in the instructions. Guy had previously had a connection to the article by having made a handful of edits he had forgotten about. That is enough to ask for any determination to be set aside for new mediation. And yes...Misplaced Pages is better with Andy here, not retired.--] (]) 23:44, 20 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :::For the record, had AndyTheGrump simply asked me to withdraw from the case and turn it over to another DRN volunteer (either on my talk page or the DRN talk page) I most likely would have recused myself -- the workload is light this week and there are multiple volunteers who can do just as good a job as I can or better. Instead he asked for specific restrictions on what I or anyone replacing me could do while mediating a DRN case. <s>I see no reason for to single out Mark Miller out of the nine people who opposed AndyTheGrump's request (zero supporters so far). Instead he should have named the person AndyTheGrump named two minutes before posting the retirement template</s> --] (]) 01:21, 21 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::::], I just saw your response and I'm returning to state that I was singling out no one. When I stated that I was about to ask what happened and then I saw , I was speaking of the situation, including the edit summary. You know, the edit summary that was very clear that he'd be leaving? It was the last edit summary he made before slapping the retired tag on his talk page and user page. It was the edit summary that made it clear to me, when looking at his contributions to see why he'd left, that it was the edit that held the answer. And clicking on that edit gave me insight into why he'd left. I was not implying that anyone was at fault by pointing to that edit summary/diff link. ] (]) 21:50, 5 October 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :::::That's how I interpreted as well. I didn't perceive your comment as anything other than pointing out what Andy said for the convenience of those reading this page. | |||
| :::::As for what Andy said about the DRN case I was mediating (and which he complained about to the other DRN volunteers and was told that I wasn't doing anything wrong), what he missed in his desire to start a war with me was that a ] volunteer mediator often seems sympathetic to someone who really isn't following policy, for the very simple reason that a successful resolution of the case often happens when that person realizes for himself that he is violating Misplaced Pages policy, and the policy in question is a good policy that was put there for a good reason. This can take some time, and often involves asking some gentle questions, but if it works we can turn a difficult editor into a productive editor. Andy clearly wanted me to give an ] style warning, but that isn't what DRN is about. ANI is staffed by administrators with the power to block and thus any warning they give you have teeth. DRN volunteer mediators purposely have zero power or authority. We either persuade the editors who are disputing to agree or the case fails. It is sad that Andy decided to leave Misplaced Pages because DRN isn't being run the way he wants it to be run instead of simply withdrawing from the case and unwatching the page. --] (]) 04:13, 6 October 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::::And he spoke of you in that edit anyway; so I don't see why you'd think I was singling out Mark Miller. ] (]) 21:54, 5 October 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :::::(Goes back and looks at the previous comment) Oh dear. I named the wrong person entirely. I have <s>struck</s> my comment and redacted the name I mentioned. I am sorry and I apologize. Please forgive me for making such an error. --] (]) 04:13, 6 October 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Maybe just give him some space.(] (]) 02:41, 21 September 2015 (UTC)) | |||
| ::::For the record, the Grump made some excellent points at the RfC and if it wasn't snow-closed already I'd have registered support. ] (]) 21:26, 22 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :::::Might I suggest that you go to the DRN talk page and make a proposal detailing how you think we should do things differently? The DRN volunteers are pretty open to trying new things and rethinking how to resolve disputes. --] (]) 04:13, 6 October 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::::: I like a lot of the edits but the tone is often curt and dismissive and not as helpful to the collaborative spirit. I did like the recent rejection of a ] attempt at ] and considered barnstarring ATG but the truth is that the abrasiveness cancels the intellectual chops. I hope to see the emphasis on accuracy for which ATG is known but please please not so bitey. Please don't bite anybody newbie or not. But yeah, stay around and make suggestions with the understanding that obstinacy is not the same thing as conviction to principle and be mindful of the effect your curt posts have on other human beings. ] (]) 20:24, 1 October 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| :I'll ]. One of the bluntest, most abrassive and most uncompromsing editors I have ever seen. But always for the good of the encyclopedia. I do hope you will reconsider. ] (]) 09:28, 21 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::I don't know what to say. Perhaps after six monthe R+R Andy will return, who knows. I do hope so though. -] (]) 10:55, 22 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :::Yes, indeed. I hear that ] can be very nice at this time of year. ] (]) 12:08, 22 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
| *I had the exact same reaction. I hope what you need is a well deserved break and not a total break, but these are personal decisions. I have always considered your contributions worthwhile and important. I just hope they aren't over. ] - ] 15:21, 23 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
| *I second the sentiments of my esteemed colleague Dennis Brown. I hope you will be back in a few weeks or a few months, having re-focused, rested, re-evaluated the place of Misplaced Pages in one's life, and then decided to go back in ant take another look. Until then, the place won't be the same without you. --] (]) 22:17, 5 October 2015 (UTC) | |||
| * If you have gone for good, can I have the name? 8-) | |||
| : Please don't go. The tsunami of woo-woo needs anyone and everyone who can wield a baler. Your efforts in that were much appreciated. ] (]) 09:40, 6 October 2015 (UTC) | |||
| *'' '<s>One of</s> the bluntest, most abrasive and most uncompromsing editors I have ever seen. But always for the good of the encyclopedia.'' I wish you well whatever you decide. A pleasure to have known you, albeit briefly ! ] (]) 21:08, 6 October 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == Sorry to see you go == | |||
| Hi AndyTheGrump. I am sorry to see you leave Misplaced Pages. Thank you for your five years of contributions while a Wikipedian. I wish you all the best.<br>] (]) 08:52, 21 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :I second that. Reminds me never to go to DRN... ] (]) 02:09, 29 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
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What, again? Sorry to see this, Andy. Bishonen | tålk 18:27, 3 November 2024 (UTC).
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