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== Request article assessment == | ||
| Teammates, can I get experienced Wiki-Oregon editors to assess new ] article? Prigg was pioneer physician and pharmacist in 1840s. He opened the first commercial drug store in the Oregon County. He also served as Secretary for the Provisional Government of Oregon, a position that eventually became the Oregon Secretary of State … our second highest state office today. The article’s DYK nomination is approved so hook will be published on Misplaced Pages’s main page sometime soon ... not sure when. I’d really like someone from WikiProject Oregon to do assessment before DYK appears on main page. Thanks! ] (]) 18:15, 4 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Cities lists merge proposal == | |||
| A is ] some likely-to-be-places. I'll be working on ]. ] is apparently now considered just a gazetteer, so use moar sources. Others: | |||
| I'm avoiding my GIS homework by poking my nose in here: ]. Does anybody think we still need two articles or are we just being stubborn? I haven't looked at either to see what they even look like now. Is there a valid objection besides ]? Is there a reason to keep besides Valfontis ]? @]? @]? Cheers, ] (]) 05:19, 28 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
| *] | |||
| :Oregon seems to be the only state that has a combined list like this. While an index is useful, it is probably more confusing for readers than just maintaining the existing ] and ]. The cities list definitely needs to stay separate to match with the other 49 states, while the unincorporated places can have their own list similar to ]. ''']]''' 06:10, 28 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
| *] @] | |||
| ::Oregon is doing the ''right thing'' by combining carrots and potatoes and calling them all vegetables. The cities which have not combined them are not doing the reader a favor. It makes them have to look in two places instead of one. They are more likely to be surprised by the arbitrarily imposed distinction. —] (]) 19:53, 28 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
| *] | |||
| :::Incorporation is an important distinction, as it (at least in the Northwest; other states are weird) determines whether you have another layer of government and what services you can receive. An unincorporated community is under direct county rule and has limited representation and independence. Incorporated cities and towns have firm names and recorded histories; unincorporated communities may have been named by the Census Bureau (in the case of CDPs) or have no real name, and hardly enough history to warrant an article under GNG. An equivalent to ] (a better name for the combined list) would be an appropriate thing to have for all states as a ''supplement'' to the lists that are separated by incorporated/unincorporated status. ''']]''' 03:27, 30 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
| *] (likely just a "funny place name", <s>I haven't checked</s> yep, created by "Blue Bucket Cow Camp" guy) | |||
| Somewhat related, but I feel like something like ] ought to not have an article of its own. It probably doesn't meet NGEO. ] (]) 21:36, 4 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :I contested Fairbanks but agree with Dant, fwiw. Cracking open "Stations West" and not even finding "Dant" mentioned wasn't exactly an endorsement. ] (]) 18:31, 31 March 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::Howdy. I dunno, Dant was created by {{ping|Finetooth}} and he has pretty good instincts as far as notability. ] (]) 18:36, 31 March 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::Maybe merge and redir to ]? ] (]) 18:39, 31 March 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :There's been some pushback against having articles about small communities and quite a bit of damage (and no cleanup afterward, usually) has been done by folks not doing ]. (I don't necessarily agree with the current state of NGEO, but that's what we have right now.) Have you done any checking? Kansas City might be notable. I'll do my usual recon and try to spruce it up. ] (]) 20:48, 6 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == anyone feel like smiling? == | |||
| :Hello {{ping|Valfontis}}, I decided not to PROD Kingsley because I could find far more mentions of it in local newspapers than I could Rice (although most of them were trivial mentions of somebody "of Kingsley" doing something completely unnotable, as small-town newspapers often used to print). If you're aware of more substantial information then by all means add it and remove my PROD. I'm not committed to deleting these articles, I just don't think we should have articles about places where all we can say is its name, location, and when it had a post office. That gets into ] territory. But if we can say more, we should keep the articles. BTW, my understanding is Google Maps (or other maps) are fine for proving existence (e.g. the cemetery) but not notability. ] (]) 23:19, 31 March 2024 (UTC) | |||
| {{Multiple image| | |||
| | image1 = Smiley Face Forest 1.jpg | |||
| {{ping|WeirdNAnnoyed}} I created the Dant article about 10 years ago. Although the article's claims are faithful to the sources cited, the claims are thin, and Dant probably fails the notability test. Tedder is correct in saying that Dant is not mentioned in ''Stations West'', which does however include a map of the Oregon Trunk Railway showing the location of a station named Frieda. The station name was changed from Frieda to Dant in honor of the perlite mine guy. All that is of such minor historical interest that deleting the Dant article seems reasonable. ] and ] both redirect to ], which has only one paragraph about this trunk line. If someone wanted to use the station list in ''Stations West'' to expand that paragraph, Dant (Frieda) could rise again as a tiny part of a minor list. ] (]) 00:00, 2 April 2024 (UTC) | |||
| | image2 = Smiley Face Forest 2.jpg | |||
| | footer = Hampton Lumber's smiley face forest in fall foliage, near Willamina Oregon | |||
| :Hey Finetooth! Can you or @] see if ] is mentioned in ''Stations West''? It's on the Pendleton Branch line of the UP (formerly OR&N). I think I have a copy around here somewhere... Thanks! ] (]) 20:13, 19 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| }} | |||
| ::hi! Not in the index. Also doesn't appear in OGN (6th ed.). ] (]) 20:53, 19 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| Perfect time of year for the forest. It might actually stand up as an article given the number of press mentions. Or create something for Hampton Lumber, which is . ] (]) 00:53, 10 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::Thx! Yeah, definitely not in 7th OGN in either. ] (]) 21:43, 19 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| {{clear}} | |||
| :::: Also, Riley Moffat's book of historical populations of western towns has data about nearby ] but nothing about Havana. ] (]) 00:32, 20 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::::Thanks Finetooth! Hey, while I have you on the line, is Wildhorse Creek in Umatilla County (Umatilla River tributary) worth a darn? ] (]) 05:16, 20 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| He is listed as being a 2 month Governor of Oregon yet he does not appear on the Oregon Governors page. Also the dates for Lane's first term and Gaines' term are inaccurate if we properly add Prichette back in. This needs to be reconciled. ] (]) 21:41, 19 May 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :Hi Coyotez, I see he's in a footnote on the ] page. I'm curious if the state has an official list (I know it was pre-statehood) and did they include him? ] (]) 05:22, 20 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :] isn't listed either. A decision must have been made not to include acting governors. ] (]) 05:28, 20 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Help with expanding draft == | |||
| Where can I recruit people to help expand a draft I've created?<br/><small>If you reply here, please ping me.</small><span id="TheTechie:1717121072083:Wikipedia_talkFTTCLNWikiProject_Oregon" class="FTTCmt"> — <span style="font-family:monospace; font-weight: bold"><span style="color:ForestGreen">]</span>: ] <span style="">$</span></span> 02:04, 31 May 2024 (UTC)</span> | |||
| : {{ping|TheTechie}} What draft are you referring to? – ] (]) 07:41, 31 May 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::] << that one, I'm having some trouble finding sources, so some help would be appreciated <span style="font-family:monospace; font-weight: bold"><span style="color:ForestGreen">]</span>: ] <span style="">$</span></span> 17:04, 1 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::@] <span style="font-family:monospace; font-weight: bold"><span style="color:ForestGreen">]</span>: ] <span style="">$</span></span> 17:04, 1 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::{{hidden ping|User:TheTechie}} {{no redirect|Capitol Highway}} currently redirects to ]. Do you think it would make more sense to add info at the target article rather than splitting it into a separate page? In terms of sources, I found some web pages from the City of Portland like and . I also found some news articles about construction and improvements on the road like . – ] (]) 07:54, 4 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::As this is mostly a local street rather than a state-maintained highway (and doesn't appear to be on the named highways system), I don't think it will survive AfD, especially on ] grounds. There are probably plenty of sources in the ''Oregonian'' archives, but little to demonstrate notability beyond local coverage. ''']]''' 08:35, 4 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Actually, the Capitol Highway has historical significance as the first highway between the Capitol Library building in Salem and its terminus in Portland. We have a couple of mentions in other WP highway articles: | |||
| ::::from ]: | |||
| ::::"The first highway in the corridor was the Capitol Highway (Highway 3), from Portland to Salem via Dayton (roughly present OR 99W and ]). In 1927 it was merged with the '''West Side Highway''', which ran from Dayton to Junction City, to form the West Side Pacific Highway, still numbered 3, and a western loop of the Pacific Highway (Highway 1/U.S. Route 99). (The former Capitol Highway south of Dayton was removed from the system, but was later taken over as the ].)" | |||
| ::::and ]: | |||
| ::::"The original alignment in southern Portland, bypassed in the 1930s by Barbur Boulevard, is still called Capitol Highway. It begins at the present north end of OR 99W and runs first east, then west, of Highway 1W, eventually merging with ] (formerly the ]) before ending at Highway 1W south of downtown." | |||
| ::::I've added a bit to the draft, but am still sifting through the multiple sources I listed on ]. There's even a great historical image here, c. 1920 (presumably public domain): | |||
| ::::I have yet to find sources that substantiate the text in the Description section, which covers only the remnant of the Capitol Highway still extant in Portland... still looking. ] (]) 16:38, 4 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::::This would all be best covered under the OR 99W (or even a spun-off US 99W) article, rather than creating a separate article that will only cover a tiny section of the corridor. Much like how we don't have articles on other short sections of US 99 that were amalgamated to form the original highway. ''']]''' 17:38, 4 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Stephen Epler (PSU founder) == | |||
| I just created ], any one want to work on the article? I'm presuming it is the same person as the football one. If Epler had a big role in ensuring that the college didn't die after the flood, I think he deserves an article. ] (]) 23:30, 9 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :Thank you for getting the article started. While Epler is definitely notable, creating an article with such egregious formatting issues is unacceptable for an autopatrolled user such as yourself. I went ahead and , but you really should invest some more effort next time and not dump this workload on other editors. A minimum, you need to provide inline references and properly format the citations rather than just giving bare URLs. – ] (]) 18:26, 10 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::My apologies, I should have looked into using the draft feature, or put it on a sub page of my user page. ] (]) 05:12, 11 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::It's all good, thanks again for getting it started! – ] (]) 05:15, 11 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Since I now see your clean-up job, thank you very much for doing it! | |||
| == Requested move at ] == | |||
| ] There is a requested move discussion at ] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span><sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 14:57, 17 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == List of parks in Portland, Oregon == | |||
| After populating ], ], ], ], ], and ], I realized ] needs a little love. Some of the needed changes are related to the creation of South Portland. I've identified some unresolved issues at ], if any others are interested in collaborating. Thanks! --] <sub>(])</sub> 16:04, 21 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Frank Branch Riley == | |||
| We have a new bio on ], who became known as Oregon's "unofficial ambassador", courtesy of {{u|Goldfish-silverfish}}. I think the article could be a candidate for DYK if any other editors are interested in looking it over. – ] (]) 18:41, 24 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Good article reassessment for ] == | |||
| ] has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the ]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ] (]) 20:03, 26 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :Made a start, but ran out of time today. ] (]) 22:11, 26 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == FPC == | |||
| * ] | |||
| * ] | |||
| Now, I don't want to canvass votes, so please only vote if you would likely have done so anyway, but just to let everyone here know, ] is up at featured pictures, and looks very likely to pass (it's already at quorum). Used in a number of Portland-related articles; photographer doesn't appear to have an article, though I suspect he could if people wanted to dig into enough non-online sources. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml">''']''' <sup>(])</sup><sub>Has about 8.8% of all ].</sub></span> 20:59, 27 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks for the pointer. It's nice to know what's going on, I don't see it as a canvass. ] (]) 22:48, 27 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::I just think it's better to be explicit on such things. Better over-cautious than under-cautious, after all. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml">''']''' <sup>(])</sup><sub>Has about 8.8% of all ].</sub></span> 18:54, 28 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::For the record, it passed and is now a featured picture. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml">''']''' <sup>(])</sup><sub>Has about 8.8% of all ].</sub></span> 14:17, 3 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::::@] Nice work, congrats! --] <sub>(])</sub> 14:18, 3 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Photo request == | |||
| == Good article reassessment for ] == | |||
| Greetings. If you live in or near ], I would appreciate a photograph of one (or both) of these restaurants: ] and ]. Please snap photos of the building and (if necessary) a dish. Thanks in advance, ]<sup><small>TM</small></sup> <small>(])</small> 22:45, 30 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ] has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the ]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ] (]) 17:34, 18 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :All, I have addressed the lack of more recent news and other clean-up items, but if someone could do a copy edit to clean anything up, that would be appreciated. ] (]) 05:39, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::I've done some clean up on the citations, but the text could still use a once-over. ] (]) 06:27, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Would like help from a relative local to Portland == | |||
| :{{Camera}} ''']''', too! ---] <sub>(])</sub> 16:01, 12 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| Discussion at ] new user from the David Campbell Memorial Association trying to change the name of the article in a crude editing way. I'm 3000 miles away, maybe a local might bring something to the discussion.] (]) 23:30, 26 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Pioneer Courthouse Square Christmas tree == | |||
| :{{ping|Naraht}} Thanks for bringing this up and engaging with the new editor. The article has seen some improvement following discussion on the talk page. ] (]) 22:48, 28 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::{{U|Lord Bolingbroke}} Thanx. I wasn't really in a situation to do a deep dive, just trying to keep him out of *very* NNPOV and COI edits. Hopefully, we can build from those and similar references to get something he'll live with. He did have some points, we'll see how it goes.] (]) 22:57, 28 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| Feeling a bit ]-ish? Welcoming collaboration at ], for anyone who is interested. Happy editing! ---] <sub>(])</sub> 17:13, 4 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| Oh Lord, this is longer than the Good Book. Please edit this down and find good sources! ] (]) 02:13, 9 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :Found this ''Oregonian'' piece with , at least one with the tree in the background. Maybe an ext. link? ] (]) 19:22, 4 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::There's a lot of holiday-related programming at the square, but I am trying to keep this entry specific to the tree and affiliated festivities, such as the tree arrival parades and lighting ceremonies. I feel good about coverage of the 2000s to present, based on Google and Google News searches, but the ''Oregonian'' archives may be needed for a bit more detail about the 1980s and 1990s. ---] <sub>(])</sub> 16:52, 8 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :@] I removed the unsourced wall of text. Yikes! ---] <sub>(])</sub> 15:09, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == Seeking collaboration and GA co-nomination == | |||
| == Strike stub == | |||
| Here's a short list of some articles I've worked on that could use a bit of polishing before a Good article nomination. I'm down to collaborate and co-nominate, if you see one that interests you: | |||
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| ---] <sub>(])</sub> 14:51, 13 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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Request article assessment
Teammates, can I get experienced Wiki-Oregon editors to assess new Frederick Prigg article? Prigg was pioneer physician and pharmacist in 1840s. He opened the first commercial drug store in the Oregon County. He also served as Secretary for the Provisional Government of Oregon, a position that eventually became the Oregon Secretary of State … our second highest state office today. The article’s DYK nomination is approved so hook will be published on Misplaced Pages’s main page sometime soon ... not sure when. I’d really like someone from WikiProject Oregon to do assessment before DYK appears on main page. Thanks! Orygun (talk) 18:15, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
Cities lists merge proposal
I'm avoiding my GIS homework by poking my nose in here: Talk:List of cities in Oregon#Proposed merge of List of cities and unincorporated communities in Oregon with List of cities in Oregon. Does anybody think we still need two articles or are we just being stubborn? I haven't looked at either to see what they even look like now. Is there a valid objection besides WP:IDON'TLIKEIT? Is there a reason to keep besides Valfontis likes it? @Ipoellet? @EncMstr? Cheers, Valfontis (talk) 05:19, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- Oregon seems to be the only state that has a combined list like this. While an index is useful, it is probably more confusing for readers than just maintaining the existing cities list and CDP list. The cities list definitely needs to stay separate to match with the other 49 states, while the unincorporated places can have their own list similar to Washington's. SounderBruce 06:10, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- Oregon is doing the right thing by combining carrots and potatoes and calling them all vegetables. The cities which have not combined them are not doing the reader a favor. It makes them have to look in two places instead of one. They are more likely to be surprised by the arbitrarily imposed distinction. —EncMstr (talk) 19:53, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- Incorporation is an important distinction, as it (at least in the Northwest; other states are weird) determines whether you have another layer of government and what services you can receive. An unincorporated community is under direct county rule and has limited representation and independence. Incorporated cities and towns have firm names and recorded histories; unincorporated communities may have been named by the Census Bureau (in the case of CDPs) or have no real name, and hardly enough history to warrant an article under GNG. An equivalent to List of populated places in Oregon (a better name for the combined list) would be an appropriate thing to have for all states as a supplement to the lists that are separated by incorporated/unincorporated status. SounderBruce 03:27, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Oregon is doing the right thing by combining carrots and potatoes and calling them all vegetables. The cities which have not combined them are not doing the reader a favor. It makes them have to look in two places instead of one. They are more likely to be surprised by the arbitrarily imposed distinction. —EncMstr (talk) 19:53, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Somewhat related, but I feel like something like Kansas City, Oregon ought to not have an article of its own. It probably doesn't meet NGEO. Graywalls (talk) 21:36, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- There's been some pushback against having articles about small communities and quite a bit of damage (and no cleanup afterward, usually) has been done by folks not doing WP:BEFORE. (I don't necessarily agree with the current state of NGEO, but that's what we have right now.) Have you done any checking? Kansas City might be notable. I'll do my usual recon and try to spruce it up. Valfontis (talk) 20:48, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
anyone feel like smiling?
Hampton Lumber's smiley face forest in fall foliage, near Willamina Oregon
Perfect time of year for the forest. It might actually stand up as an article given the number of press mentions. Or create something for Hampton Lumber, which is part of a few historic railways that have articles. tedder (talk) 00:53, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
Good article reassessment for Wilsonville, Oregon
Wilsonville, Oregon has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 17:34, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- All, I have addressed the lack of more recent news and other clean-up items, but if someone could do a copy edit to clean anything up, that would be appreciated. Aboutmovies (talk) 05:39, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- I've done some clean up on the citations, but the text could still use a once-over. Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 06:27, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
Would like help from a relative local to Portland
Discussion at Talk:Portland Firefighters Park new user from the David Campbell Memorial Association trying to change the name of the article in a crude editing way. I'm 3000 miles away, maybe a local might bring something to the discussion.Naraht (talk) 23:30, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Naraht: Thanks for bringing this up and engaging with the new editor. The article has seen some improvement following discussion on the talk page. Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 22:48, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Lord Bolingbroke Thanx. I wasn't really in a situation to do a deep dive, just trying to keep him out of *very* NNPOV and COI edits. Hopefully, we can build from those and similar references to get something he'll live with. He did have some points, we'll see how it goes.Naraht (talk) 22:57, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
History of Oregon State Beavers football
Oh Lord, this is longer than the Good Book. Please edit this down and find good sources! Bearian (talk) 02:13, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Bearian I removed the unsourced wall of text. Yikes! ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:09, 10 January 2025 (UTC)