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The holocaust was not just Jewish murders. There were five million others murder. This page is a lie ] (]) 11:19, 13 December 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{tq|The Holocaust was the genocide of European Jews during World War II. Between 1941 and 1945, Nazi Germany and its collaborators systematically murdered some six million Jews across German-occupied Europe, around two-thirds of Europe's Jewish population.}}" This page is about that, for other genocides look further {{tq|Separate Nazi persecutions killed a similar or larger number of non-Jewish civilians and prisoners of war (POWs);}} If you only had an ability to read with comprehension. ] (]) 13:42, 13 December 2024 (UTC) |
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::Sorry this is Zionist Propaganda.. the Holocaust was about White Christian Supremacy and Nationalism.. they murdered as many non jews and Jews.. Sorry by this page is a lie in denial and disingenuous. PERIOD. |
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::You insults prove my point.. its typical MAGA right wing crappp when you dont have an answer because I state the truth you resort to attacks ] (]) 16:30, 6 January 2025 (UTC) |
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:::{{tq|I state the truth}}, no you just state your opinon. ] (]) 10:06, 14 January 2025 (UTC) |
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- "By the early twentieth century, most Jews in central and western Europe were well integrated into society, while in eastern Europe, where emancipation had arrived later, many Jews still lived in small towns, spoke Yiddish, and practiced Orthodox Judaism." |
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In Rise of Nazi Germany - Persecution of Jews, 3rd paragraph. Grammar error |
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"Out of the 560000 jews 130000 was able to emigrate between 1933 and 1937, most of them towards South Africa, Mandatory Palestine, and South America." |
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"Out of the 560,000 Jews in Germany, 130,000 were able to..." ] (]) 06:36, 31 December 2024 (UTC) |
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he Holocaust primarily targeted Jews, with approximately 6 million Jewish people murdered by the Nazis and their collaborators. However, millions of non-Jews were also killed during this period as part of the Nazi regime's broader campaign of persecution and extermination. Estimates for non-Jewish victims include: |
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Romani (Gypsies): Between 200,000 and 500,000. |
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- Proposed version shows less of a bias or inclination towards assimilation. "Still" can give a sense of inevitability. Both are true but "continued to" is more neutral. |
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Disabled individuals: Approximately 250,000, targeted through the T4 euthanasia program. |
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Polish civilians: Around 1.8 to 2 million non-Jewish Poles. |
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Thank you for considering this change! ] (]) 12:45, 15 June 2024 (UTC) |
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Soviet civilians and prisoners of war: Between 3.3 and 5 million Soviet POWs and countless civilians. |
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Political dissidents, resistance members, and others: Tens of thousands, including Communists, Socialists, and trade unionists. |
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Jehovah’s Witnesses: About 1,900 to 2,000 were executed for refusing to pledge allegiance to the Nazi regime. |
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Homosexuals: Thousands were arrested, with an estimated 5,000 to 15,000 dying in concentration camps. |
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In total, estimates for non-Jewish deaths during the Holocaust vary but are generally between 5 to 11 million. Combined with Jewish victims, the Holocaust claimed the lives of roughly 11 to 17 million people. ] (]) 21:31, 2 January 2025 (UTC) |
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The holocaust was the killing of those who were deemed undesirable or of no value, not just Jews, like disabled people killed by doctors even before the camps, and anyone who challenged the regime such as intellectuals and artists. This is important to note so the phenomenon of fascism or genocide can be recognized and mitigated as it finds other iterations. ] (]) 04:19, 5 August 2024 (UTC) |
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:<!-- Template:EEp --> Not what this article is about. As the first lines say: "This article is about the state-sponsored genocide of European Jews during World War II. For all peoples persecuted during this era, see ]." ] (]) 04:46, 5 August 2024 (UTC) |
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In Rise of Nazi Germany - Persecution of Jews, 3rd paragraph. Grammar error
"Out of the 560000 jews 130000 was able to emigrate between 1933 and 1937, most of them towards South Africa, Mandatory Palestine, and South America."
he Holocaust primarily targeted Jews, with approximately 6 million Jewish people murdered by the Nazis and their collaborators. However, millions of non-Jews were also killed during this period as part of the Nazi regime's broader campaign of persecution and extermination. Estimates for non-Jewish victims include:
Romani (Gypsies): Between 200,000 and 500,000.
Disabled individuals: Approximately 250,000, targeted through the T4 euthanasia program.
Polish civilians: Around 1.8 to 2 million non-Jewish Poles.
Soviet civilians and prisoners of war: Between 3.3 and 5 million Soviet POWs and countless civilians.
Political dissidents, resistance members, and others: Tens of thousands, including Communists, Socialists, and trade unionists.
Jehovah’s Witnesses: About 1,900 to 2,000 were executed for refusing to pledge allegiance to the Nazi regime.
Homosexuals: Thousands were arrested, with an estimated 5,000 to 15,000 dying in concentration camps.
In total, estimates for non-Jewish deaths during the Holocaust vary but are generally between 5 to 11 million. Combined with Jewish victims, the Holocaust claimed the lives of roughly 11 to 17 million people. Rossen (talk) 21:31, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
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Q1: Why does this article have The in the title? Most articles don't.
A1: The name The Holocaust is common usage. Article titles follow subjects, not other articles. See also previous discussions on the question, linked in the move banner below.
Q2: The Holocaust was not only about Jews; the total death toll was more like 11+ million.
A2: As it says in the lead sentence which defines the scope of the article, the Holocaust "was the genocide of European Jews during World War II". As explained elsewhere in the lead and body, "separate Nazi persecutions killed a similar or larger number of non-Jewish civilians and POWs". As also explained in the lead and the body, "the term Holocaust is sometimes used to refer to the persecution of these other groups"; such uses of the term Holocaust constitute "significant minority views" as explained in Misplaced Pages's WP:NPOV policy. In accordance with WP:NPOV policy, Misplaced Pages states the mainstream view in its own voice, while also explaining significant minority views.
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Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Note that the very first paragraph of the introduction already reads "Separate Nazi persecutions killed a similar or larger number of non-Jewish civilians and prisoners of war (POWs); the term Holocaust is sometimes used to refer to the persecution of these other groups." Cannolis (talk) 22:02, 2 January 2025 (UTC)