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== 6 million == |
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Just a kind recommendation to remove the word “some” before six million jews in the description ] (]) 08:15, 7 September 2024 (UTC) |
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The holocaust was not just Jewish murders. There were five million others murder. This page is a lie ] (]) 11:19, 13 December 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{tq|The Holocaust was the genocide of European Jews during World War II. Between 1941 and 1945, Nazi Germany and its collaborators systematically murdered some six million Jews across German-occupied Europe, around two-thirds of Europe's Jewish population.}}" This page is about that, for other genocides look further {{tq|Separate Nazi persecutions killed a similar or larger number of non-Jewish civilians and prisoners of war (POWs);}} If you only had an ability to read with comprehension. ] (]) 13:42, 13 December 2024 (UTC) |
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::Sorry this is Zionist Propaganda.. the Holocaust was about White Christian Supremacy and Nationalism.. they murdered as many non jews and Jews.. Sorry by this page is a lie in denial and disingenuous. PERIOD. |
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::You insults prove my point.. its typical MAGA right wing crappp when you dont have an answer because I state the truth you resort to attacks ] (]) 16:30, 6 January 2025 (UTC) |
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:::{{tq|I state the truth}}, no you just state your opinon. ] (]) 10:06, 14 January 2025 (UTC) |
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:Why? It means "approximately" in this usage. ]<sup><small>]</small></sup> 15:10, 7 September 2024 (UTC) |
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::It is an approximation, not an exact number.] (]) 16:10, 7 September 2024 (UTC) |
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In Rise of Nazi Germany - Persecution of Jews, 3rd paragraph. Grammar error |
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"Out of the 560000 jews 130000 was able to emigrate between 1933 and 1937, most of them towards South Africa, Mandatory Palestine, and South America." |
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"Out of the 560,000 Jews in Germany, 130,000 were able to..." ] (]) 06:36, 31 December 2024 (UTC) |
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What is the source for the 6 million claim, because the source used in this article isn't a source, it doesn't give name or age or any info on the "6 million" victims |
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And considering this article is locked, you can't dispute this source ] (]) 21:17, 13 October 2024 (UTC) |
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: Done ] (]) 08:20, 31 December 2024 (UTC) |
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:The 'Death toll' section cites three sources directly, though I have no doubt whatsoever that many other sources of similar credibility could be found, since the figure (an approximation, obviously, but based on extensive research by many historians over many years) has long been accepted by all but fringe pseudohistorians and denialists. To 'dispute' the figure you would, per Misplaced Pages policy have to demonstrate that this consensus amongst historians no longer exists. ] (]) 21:55, 13 October 2024 (UTC) |
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:As per Misplaced Pages guidelines, common knowledge does not require references. The fact that 6 million Jews died in the Holocaust is a common knowledge only disputed by deniers, mostly malicious. ] (]) 19:33, 15 October 2024 (UTC) |
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::Common knowledge can mean commonly repeated propaganda so not everyone who brings attention to it is malicious based solely on their denial. There’s something to be said about such labeling being malicious. Fact is Germany kept very good records and their census’ between 1933-1940 doesn’t even show 1 million total Jewish population in Germany. These census documents are easily accessible so how did the six million figure become so popular? ] (]) 07:14, 21 October 2024 (UTC) |
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he Holocaust primarily targeted Jews, with approximately 6 million Jewish people murdered by the Nazis and their collaborators. However, millions of non-Jews were also killed during this period as part of the Nazi regime's broader campaign of persecution and extermination. Estimates for non-Jewish victims include: |
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Romani (Gypsies): Between 200,000 and 500,000. |
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Disabled individuals: Approximately 250,000, targeted through the T4 euthanasia program. |
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Polish civilians: Around 1.8 to 2 million non-Jewish Poles. |
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Soviet civilians and prisoners of war: Between 3.3 and 5 million Soviet POWs and countless civilians. |
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Political dissidents, resistance members, and others: Tens of thousands, including Communists, Socialists, and trade unionists. |
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Jehovah’s Witnesses: About 1,900 to 2,000 were executed for refusing to pledge allegiance to the Nazi regime. |
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Homosexuals: Thousands were arrested, with an estimated 5,000 to 15,000 dying in concentration camps. |
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In total, estimates for non-Jewish deaths during the Holocaust vary but are generally between 5 to 11 million. Combined with Jewish victims, the Holocaust claimed the lives of roughly 11 to 17 million people. ] (]) 21:31, 2 January 2025 (UTC) |
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:] '''Not done''': it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a ] and provide a ] if appropriate. Note that the very first paragraph of the introduction already reads "Separate Nazi persecutions killed a similar or larger number of non-Jewish civilians and prisoners of war (POWs); the term Holocaust is sometimes used to refer to the persecution of these other groups."<!-- Template:EEp --> ] (]) 22:02, 2 January 2025 (UTC) |
In Rise of Nazi Germany - Persecution of Jews, 3rd paragraph. Grammar error
"Out of the 560000 jews 130000 was able to emigrate between 1933 and 1937, most of them towards South Africa, Mandatory Palestine, and South America."
he Holocaust primarily targeted Jews, with approximately 6 million Jewish people murdered by the Nazis and their collaborators. However, millions of non-Jews were also killed during this period as part of the Nazi regime's broader campaign of persecution and extermination. Estimates for non-Jewish victims include:
Romani (Gypsies): Between 200,000 and 500,000.
Disabled individuals: Approximately 250,000, targeted through the T4 euthanasia program.
Polish civilians: Around 1.8 to 2 million non-Jewish Poles.
Soviet civilians and prisoners of war: Between 3.3 and 5 million Soviet POWs and countless civilians.
Political dissidents, resistance members, and others: Tens of thousands, including Communists, Socialists, and trade unionists.
Jehovah’s Witnesses: About 1,900 to 2,000 were executed for refusing to pledge allegiance to the Nazi regime.
Homosexuals: Thousands were arrested, with an estimated 5,000 to 15,000 dying in concentration camps.
In total, estimates for non-Jewish deaths during the Holocaust vary but are generally between 5 to 11 million. Combined with Jewish victims, the Holocaust claimed the lives of roughly 11 to 17 million people. Rossen (talk) 21:31, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
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Q2: The Holocaust was not only about Jews; the total death toll was more like 11+ million.
A2: As it says in the lead sentence which defines the scope of the article, the Holocaust "was the genocide of European Jews during World War II". As explained elsewhere in the lead and body, "separate Nazi persecutions killed a similar or larger number of non-Jewish civilians and POWs". As also explained in the lead and the body, "the term Holocaust is sometimes used to refer to the persecution of these other groups"; such uses of the term Holocaust constitute "significant minority views" as explained in Misplaced Pages's WP:NPOV policy. In accordance with WP:NPOV policy, Misplaced Pages states the mainstream view in its own voice, while also explaining significant minority views.
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Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Note that the very first paragraph of the introduction already reads "Separate Nazi persecutions killed a similar or larger number of non-Jewish civilians and prisoners of war (POWs); the term Holocaust is sometimes used to refer to the persecution of these other groups." Cannolis (talk) 22:02, 2 January 2025 (UTC)