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If anyone has any ] to bring to light on this issue, please do so, this page is now sprotected. Open discussion is not a bad thing (it's a good thing), just try to avoid making this into a revert war page (that doesn't work) -- ] 21:44, 7 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
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:The fact that the GNAA page has been the topic of so much divisive discussion within Misplaced Pages circles—including a comment on the topic by Wales—is in and of itself notable and verifiable. Perhaps we need a article titled, ”2006_Deletion_of_GNAA_Article” ] 12:28, 8 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
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::If any note of that particular drama had been taken by independent sources, that'd be one thing, as it is, tempests in this particular teacup don't satisfy the objective definition of ] that we use here. Nor is it verifiable in ''independent sources''. Sorry. -]<sup>(])</sup> 22:40, 8 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
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::This reminds me of ]. --- ] 23:51, 9 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
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While I haven't seen the original article to judge it by its content, I'd argue strongly that the GNAA deserves a entry at Misplaced Pages. When the Tony Pierce deletion came up and was posted on Digg by actor Wil Wheaton, he explained that the GNAA had harrassed him years ago. Other people who've spent time online are aware of the GNAA. However, I have strong evidence to suggest that Misplaced Pages has been infiltrated by members of the GNAA, making the ability to write an unbiased article about them nearly impossible. Still, this illustrates the need for their to be a source of information about the group.--] 21:30, 8 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
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:Misplaced Pages is not supposed to be a source of unique information. We're supposed to find it from ''other'' reliable sources, and then add it. -] <small><sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub></small> 22:37, 8 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
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== Suggestion for small edit == | |||
What would make writing an unbiased article possible would be non-trivial coverage in multiple independent published sources - no more, no less. That means people writing articles ''about'' GNAA. I'm sure, when the ''History of Teh Internet'' is researched, written and published, GNAA will have a chapter all to themselves. At that point, we'll be able to document them. -]<sup>(])</sup> 22:43, 8 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
I don't have an account and this page is locked. (Looks like it's locked for good reason lol.) I think this line is phrased poorly: | |||
== I'm taking this back to DRV soon == | |||
On February 11, 2007, an attack was launched on the website of US presidential candidate (and future US president) Barack Obama, where the group's name was caused to appear on the website's front page. | |||
I'm afraid that I am totally opposed to the way that this was deleted. I am going to take it back to DRV and start asking some fairly searching questions as to why this was deleted. We have had 18 deletion nominations, then it was speedily deleted. If that's not pushing things, I don't know what is. If it basically survived 18 nominations, then I don't see why it was removed in such a way. - ] 08:20, 10 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
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* The deletion underwent an extremely long ] which ended in a consensus to endorse deletion. Unless and until new ] are suggested on this page, I think the process has come to its conclusion. ] ] 08:26, 10 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
On February 11, 2007, an attack was launched on the website of former US president Barack Obama at the time of his ], where the group's name was caused to appear on the website's front page. | |||
Original version makes it sound like we're awaiting a 3rd term. Update clarifies that he was president in the past but the incident happened before he was president. It could probably be phrased even clearer, but I couldn't think of anything, so I added a link. If there's a better, more specific link, then that could be used instead. | |||
* Agree with bikeable; while it's not ideal that you weren't able to play more of a role in the article's AFD/DRV, the community has spoken and endorsed deletion. ] (]) 11:38, 10 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
Also using passive voice makes the phrasing awkward and obscures whether the attack was committed by the GNAA or if it's intentionally not naming an attacker because there's no source providing evidence who the attacker is. If it's the former: Shrey K. | |||
*This article '''did not''' "survive ''18'' nominations" - after the 9th noms 10-17 were all started as jokes or by trolls. <tt>].]</tt> 12:46, 10 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
*:What's more, over the course of all those nominations, nobody ever came up with one example of non-trivial coverage in an independent source. It's not like they didn't have a chance. -]<sup>(])</sup> 18:21, 10 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
On February 11, 2007, the GNAA attacked the website of former US president Obama at the time of his ], where they caused their name to appear on the website's front page. | |||
*And the DRV will get speedy closed as invalid. There was a very good reason this article was deleted and that decision was endorsed at DRV. Misplaced Pages got trolled, you got trolled... let's just let it die and move on. --] 18:40, 10 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
**So the bullies have spoken I see. Disgusting behaviour. - ] 07:38, 11 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
*** I tried to oppose this blatant violation of policies, but had my arms twisted. If you log a protest, just let me know, and I will second it. `'] 07:42, 11 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
****Why bother? Like I say, the bullies have spoken. This article is an important part of Internet history. Heck, we have a weebles article! I don't see anyone warring about that... IMO, people want this article deleted because it's so offensive, not because of any notability or verifiability claims. - ] 07:58, 11 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
::::::There are verifiable sources that speak of Weebles. There were none in the article on the GNAA. Policy has spoken. -- ] 08:07, 11 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
::::::: Deletion policy was violated because a couple of bullies wanted it. Don't sweep the armtwisting under the carpet. If you feel you are right, why the procedure was violated? Boslhevik Revolution. `'] 08:30, 11 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
If it's the latter: | |||
::Ahem, those who still oppose the deletion, are still welcome to find reliable sources for this article. It was deleted becuase it could not be verified. ]<small> <sup>(Need help? ])</sup></small> 14:53, 11 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
On February 11, 2007, an attack was launched on the website of former US president Barack Obama at the time of his ] by causing the name of the GNAA to appear on the website's front page. It's unclear whether the GNAA was responsible. | |||
If that assumes too much or is too leading: | |||
On February 11, 2007, an unknown attacker defaced the website of former US president Barack Obama at the time of his ], where they caused the name of the GNAA to appear on the website's front page. ] (]) 13:16, 29 September 2023 (UTC) | |||
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On February 11, 2007, an attack was launched on the website of US presidential candidate (and future US president) Barack Obama, where the group's name was caused to appear on the website's front page. | |||
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On February 11, 2007, an attack was launched on the website of former US president Barack Obama at the time of his ], where the group's name was caused to appear on the website's front page. ] (]) 14:43, 15 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
] '''Not done:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> At the time of the attack, Obama was a presidential candidate, not a former president. ] (]) 17:29, 15 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
:That's why the sentence says "at the time of his first presidential campaign". ] (]) 11:27, 18 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
::I don't find the proposed rewording clearer. Since that means there's two editors with differing opinions, it isn't an uncontroversial change. As such it needs a consensus before it can be added using the edit request template procedure. ] (]) 16:04, 18 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
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Maybe add Jax as part of Other members included, as she was more notable than many of the other members that aren't Andrew as the Biden Campaigns cybersecurity expert. | |||
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There's a GNAA site now called gnaa.africa, we sure it's affiliated with them? gnaa.eu is empty ] (]) 07:02, 14 January 2025 (UTC) |
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Suggestion for small edit
I don't have an account and this page is locked. (Looks like it's locked for good reason lol.) I think this line is phrased poorly:
On February 11, 2007, an attack was launched on the website of US presidential candidate (and future US president) Barack Obama, where the group's name was caused to appear on the website's front page.
Suggested edit:
On February 11, 2007, an attack was launched on the website of former US president Barack Obama at the time of his first presidential campaign, where the group's name was caused to appear on the website's front page.
Original version makes it sound like we're awaiting a 3rd term. Update clarifies that he was president in the past but the incident happened before he was president. It could probably be phrased even clearer, but I couldn't think of anything, so I added a link. If there's a better, more specific link, then that could be used instead.
Also using passive voice makes the phrasing awkward and obscures whether the attack was committed by the GNAA or if it's intentionally not naming an attacker because there's no source providing evidence who the attacker is. If it's the former: Shrey K.
On February 11, 2007, the GNAA attacked the website of former US president Obama at the time of his first presidential campaign, where they caused their name to appear on the website's front page.
If it's the latter:
On February 11, 2007, an attack was launched on the website of former US president Barack Obama at the time of his first presidential campaign by causing the name of the GNAA to appear on the website's front page. It's unclear whether the GNAA was responsible.
If that assumes too much or is too leading:
On February 11, 2007, an unknown attacker defaced the website of former US president Barack Obama at the time of his first presidential campaign, where they caused the name of the GNAA to appear on the website's front page. 2601:98A:4181:2610:D442:6516:AFEF:E506 (talk) 13:16, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
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On February 11, 2007, an attack was launched on the website of former US president Barack Obama at the time of his first presidential campaign, where the group's name was caused to appear on the website's front page. EO1912 (talk) 14:43, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
Not done: At the time of the attack, Obama was a presidential candidate, not a former president. PianoDan (talk) 17:29, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- That's why the sentence says "at the time of his first presidential campaign". EO1912 (talk) 11:27, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- I don't find the proposed rewording clearer. Since that means there's two editors with differing opinions, it isn't an uncontroversial change. As such it needs a consensus before it can be added using the edit request template procedure. PianoDan (talk) 16:04, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
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Maybe add Jax as part of Other members included, as she was more notable than many of the other members that aren't Andrew as the Biden Campaigns cybersecurity expert. details her surprisingly long history with the group and friendship with "weev" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2404:F780:1:3137:0:0:0:14 (talk) 11:14, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
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There's a GNAA site now called gnaa.africa, we sure it's affiliated with them? gnaa.eu is empty 182.253.246.99 (talk) 07:02, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
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