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Latest revision as of 02:47, 17 January 2025

Given the type of volunteer work I do here, I'm not comfortable with the WMF disclosing my identity or private information to municipal courts in foreign countries or with them making editorial decisions on behalf of same. I'm taking a bit of a break; I'll watch the outcomes and evaluate my volunteer efforts accordingly. Thank you Bluerasberry for the excellent summaries at the Signpost. Sam Kuru (talk) 00:57, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

Hey, Kuru

Hey! I hope you’re doing good. I’ve previously worked with you on removing sponsored articles, and I’m happy to share a script I created. This script can list all citations from an article, allowing you to remove multiple citations with a single click. I’ve included paths for sponsored articles from your list, like Khaleej Times’ kt-network, along with known unreliable sources such as YouTube and IMDb, which will get highlighted in red in the popup list. There are still many sources that can be added to this script. Since you frequently remove spam and unreliable sources, this script might be useful for you. I also have an External Links Remover script you might want to check out. Hope this helps! GrabUp - Talk 19:44, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

@GrabUp: sounds awesome! Will take a look at it this week. I'm still pretty oldschool and use minimal scripts, but this one sounds like a timesaver. Sam Kuru (talk) 01:05, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

Education outreach

I don’t think this topic is notable, but I also have concerns that you took out the only reliable sources, and it’s not defined in the way that I’m aware. I’m thinking of taking it to WP:AfD. What do you think? Bearian (talk) 20:03, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

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Hello! I am reviewing Draft:Angels Patronage Service when I noticed that an identically-named article had been deleted two months ago under G5. Is there any way to confirm that this article was created by the same user? Thanks for your time; Cheers :-) MWFwiki (talk) 01:57, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

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Ouch - I was away for a while and had disconnected e-mail alerts from my[REDACTED] e-mail account. I'll take a look tonight. Sam Kuru (talk) 22:20, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

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Some level of protection needed on Refrigeration?

Hello,

I stumbled upon the Refrigeration article and felt like I was out in a cow pasture and stepped right in it. It is a mess, but I noticed that in particular, the beginning of the article matched exactly, the beginning an ebook which was added as a citation. I don’t know if this editor created the “book” and then used it as a reference to change the WP article, or the other way around, but it seems clearly self-serving, a COI, etc.

And then I saw you BLOCKED the editor adding the citations (Kathumus). Thank you.

Kathumus added 5 citations: https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?diff=1213301146&oldid=1211165844&title=Refrigeration

These were all added to article:  Nehme, Charles. Refrigeration Fundamentals and Applications. Charles Nehme.  Team, YCT Expert. 2024-25 RRB/DRDO/ISRO Refrigeration & Air Conditioning Solved Papers. Youth Competition Times. p. 14.  "Refrigeration Equipment Market Size And Forecast". refindustry.com. Retrieved 2024-03-12.  "Refrigerated storage - BEDES". refindustry.com. Retrieved 2024-03-12.  Gupta, Ajay Kumar (2022-02-02). The Complete Book on Cold Storage, Cold Chain & Warehouse 5th Edition. Niir Project Consultancy Services. ISBN 978-81-955775-2-1.

Here is the “book” https://www.google.com/books/edition/Refrigeration_Fundamentals_and_Applicati/RiXHEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=0

The associated commercial link: https://www.cfn-hvac.com/

This article seems to be a target for spamming AND doing do has really messed up the content. I am going to engage on the talk page, but there are already many requests for cleanup. Do you think a general paring down of the article, and removing any content that is not cited, or is cited by a COI location, would be justified? But to do so, I think that confirmed protection should be in place. Your thoughts? Thank you  • Bobsd •  (talk) 18:31, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Yes, that's the prolific Vietnamese spammer, for lack of a better label. They hit a large number of articles with each account, inserting six or seven almost random sources - some good, some garbage - and one pure spam link. I think I blocked about 20 accounts in that group, but they died down after a while. I don't have that article on my watch list; likely I was just following a specific spam link. I agree that it's a frequent spam target and would be happy to protect after your clean up. Sam Kuru (talk) 20:23, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Sounds great. I'll start reviewing and reach out to other editors that have made substantial (quality) edits, and get their input on the cleanup. When I retired as a software quality engineer, I thought, what fun, I can help more on Misplaced Pages, forgetting that it is the farthest away from a controlled system as you can get. I wish that articles could be started out open, then as the get better, more locked down. Eventually needing peer review for changes. What is the point of having a grade A article, when morons can come in and mess it all up in a day. The review history is good, but I wish there was a way to look at a particular section, paragraph, etc. and see the history of just that item. As it is, I work back and forth between the revisions until I find the change. Thanks for your time, and I'll stop my preaching to the choir.  • Bobsd •  (talk) 00:50, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

What? You didn't let all of your non-programmer end users make changes to the code directly in the production environment? Yeah, it takes a little getting used to. If there are many eyes on the article, bad changes are typically remedied in seconds. You're looking at a perfect storm; a common topic article, with apparently very few watchers, and a vandalism edit that is disguised to look productive just to slip in some spam. Think of it like three lines of defense: 1) Recent change watchers that scan all recent edits (they pick up obvious vandalism edits almost instantly, 2) Subject matter experts that monitor the page from a watchlist (they can pick up more complex unconstructive edits, but may not be online all the time), and 3) Janitors like me that watch horizontally for bad sources, paid editors, spam, and recurring pattern vandals (we're not always fast at all - some things I only search for once a month). It all kinda works, until you run across a very neglected article. Sam Kuru (talk) 02:47, 17 January 2025 (UTC)