| Revision as of 07:14, 26 April 2006 editTemplar34 (talk | contribs)49 edits →Good Faith← Previous edit | Latest revision as of 15:49, 20 January 2025 edit undoLowercase sigmabot III (talk | contribs)Bots, Template editors2,310,794 editsm Archiving 1 discussion(s) to User talk:SandyGeorgia/arch123) (bot | ||
| Line 1: | Line 1: | ||
| {{User:SandyGeorgia/Tabs}} | |||
| {{User:MiszaBot/config | |||
| Hi Sandy, I'd love to help you edit the TS page. It will probably be a few weeks, however, as I'm currently working on the Parkinson's page. ] 18:58, 20 February 2006 (UTC) | |||
| |archiveheader = {{aan}} | |||
| |maxarchivesize = 200K | |||
| |counter = 123 | |||
| |minthreadsleft = 1 | |||
| |minthreadstoarchive = 1 | |||
| |algo = old(90d) | |||
| |archive = User talk:SandyGeorgia/arch%(counter)d | |||
| }} | |||
| {{Archive basics | |||
| |archive = User talk:SandyGeorgia/arch%(counter)d | |||
| |counter = 123 | |||
| |headerlevel = 2 | |||
| |maxarchivesize = 200K | |||
| |archiveheader = {{Aan}} | |||
| }} | |||
| {{semi-retired|My will to participate in Misplaced Pages has waned due to the harassment it brings, both on and off Misplaced Pages, with real consequences to living persons and their families. I am following only those articles I have contributed to extensively, and issues or content areas where bullies predominate. {{pb}} I receive pings by email only; I may continue to occasionally check my watchlist and email, but please don't count on me to regularly respond to queries or to keep up with the work I once did.}} | |||
| == Internet phenomenon == | |||
| == January music == | |||
| ] is currently in a poor state, but I think it has the potential to be encyclopedic. I would agree with the lists being moved to the talk page and entries only being re-added to the article once third party sources referencing the phenomenon are found - for each and every entry. Sorry to soil your freshly archived talkpage :)--] 23:13, 20 February 2006 (UTC) | |||
| {{User QAIbox | |||
| | image = Ehrenbach icicles.jpg | |||
| | image_upright = 0.8 | |||
| | bold = ] · ] · ] | |||
| }} | |||
| Happy new year 2025! Today, ], ], in memory of her first appearance on stage OTD in 1900, and of principal author ]. -- ] (]) 20:57, 14 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == Is this close paraphrasing? == | |||
| == Mediation == | |||
| I'm working on an article, but I'm really struggling with the phrasing. The source text is {{xt|Receiving his LL. B. degree at Transylvania University later that same year, he began the practice of law}}. I've currently come up with {{red|He received a LL. B. from the university later in the year, and began a legal practice.}} (the context of Transylvania and 1833 is established in the prior sentence) but that's still too close. ] <sub> '']''</sub> 01:36, 15 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| Hey, thanks for the note on my talk page, sorry for not getting back sooner. Can you outline the remaining issues we need to cover. From my calculations we've covered four out of the five initial requests (clean up talk page, deal with Marinol, guidance with links, starting an account), not sure how I can further help. | |||
| :{{u|Hog Farm}} those are the hardest kinds of basic facts to rewrite in our own words! How about {{tq2|On April 30, 1833, he resigned from the military and enrolled in Transylvania University, to study law. After receiving a ] degree, he started a law practice that same year.}} (I had to look back at the article to understand how he did that so fast, and see that he already had been at West Point.) I also noticed: | |||
| :* and his father was John J. Crittenden, who was an influential politican who was governor of Kentucky in the late 1840s and early 1850s, was the United States Attorney General in the administrations of Presidents William Henry Harrison and Zachary Taylor, and a United States Senator. | |||
| I will of course continue to be available, but are there any other issues you feel are key to resolving this dispute? If you could mention them (either on my talk page or on the article talk page or the mediation page) - it may be that I've missed them on the mediation page. Thanks :) - ] 09:26, 21 February 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :might be | |||
| :* and his father was John J. Crittenden, an influential politician (note typo), governor of Kentucky in the late 1840s and early 1850s, United States Attorney General in the administrations of Presidents William Henry Harrison and Zachary Taylor, and a United States Senator. | |||
| :Thanks for the update. I thought you were going to go ahead on the links... Regarding the others, can you address specific concerns to the talk page? I know it can seem frustrating when the other side doesn't reply, but there is not really much else I can do. I suggest leaving the <nowiki>{{subst:anon}}</nowiki> template on any talk page. This is a shorthand way of asking someone to create an account - s/he probably just forgot to log in... | |||
| : Bst, ] (]) 06:40, 15 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :Regarding the pillars and the encyclopaedic tone, could you point to specific examples of unencyclopaedic writing or misunderstandings of the four pillars? Sorry to keep asking for clarification, but it really helps if we have something concrete to refer to :) - ] 14:22, 21 February 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::Ok, that sounds like the best plan. I'll close the case for now, if you need further help in the future, just leave a note on my talk page, you don't need to go to the trouble of opening up a new case. I will also watch the article. - ] 15:19, 21 February 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Hey == | |||
| Hi Sandy! Just saw your vote in that RFA thingy Avi put up. That was sweet of you, thanks. ;-) I've just told him I think I'll go up for it later, though. It was a very nice gesture by both of you, thank you very much. I say, I meant to tell you I'm more or less done with the PANDAS article I promised you. It's in my USB drive, however, which is not with me at the moment. (I tend to write offline and upload later). I'll ping you when it's all uploaded and stuff, ok? See ya! :-) ]'' 17:50, 22 February 2006 (UTC)'' | |||
| When you say 'vanity stuff', do you mean dubious external links? If so, don't worry about those; we can toss them out in the touch up stage. Don't worry (too much) about prose either; there are several professional editors around who can help with that at the appropriate time; your prose most certainly does not 'stink', anyway :-). One section that I wonder about in the article is ]. Article size and detail is an issue on WP, and one way we address that is through the use of what is known as ]. I wonder if we'd eventually get a better product by keeping the "hardcore" medical stuff at the parent article and creating a new short article for that section. ]'' 21:04, 22 February 2006 (UTC)'' | |||
| :That's the vanity stuff ... like the idea of a separate article, as it will be hard to delete. :-)) ] 22:21, 22 February 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::LoL. Why? Opposition from your pleasant TS co-editors? ;-) Well, in some cases we have tossed the things in their entirety (eg. ]), when they contained little of encyclopedic merit. In this case I can see a semi-decent article on social aspects or pop-cultural portrayals of TS, so maybe a split wouldn't be a bad idea. ]'' 22:31, 22 February 2006 (UTC)'' | |||
| :::But, what would we call the separate article so it wouldn't become "more of the same" (i,e.; rampant speculation, original research, vanity entries, non-notables, non-verifiable sources, and so on)? I guess you can tell I'm a believer in peer reviewed, and random, blinded, controlled results :-) I spelled out an entire paragraph on Mozart and Aykroyd, because Misplaced Pages had become the primary source fueling those rumors, without presenting any real facts. ] 22:38, 22 February 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::P.S. Speaking of timing, I've been working on who's who. I hope JFW won't be gone long. I'd rather undertake this project when s/he is around. ] 22:50, 22 February 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::::''I guess you can tell I'm a believer in peer reviewed, and random, blinded, controlled results :-) I spelled out an entire paragraph on Mozart and Aykroyd, because Misplaced Pages had become the primary source fueling those rumors, without presenting any real facts'' LoL. My kind of editor ;-). Yes, I noticed that: it's the best part of the whole section; I was wondering if it might be possible to leave the Mozart bit in somehow. I daresay the title of the subarticle will not do much to dissuade, uhm, shall we say a ''less rigorous approach'' to encyclopedia writing—no matter what it is. The subarticle will need to be watched; but at least by slitting it away we can prevent it weakening a potential FA. Splitting makes sense anyway, per ]; TS is a large enough subject that the main article oughtn't be bloated with reference to a distinctly separate issue. In the meantime, Sandy, don't worry about digging up stuff to support all that rambling about who played which TS patient in what TV show. Concentrate on what you'd like to do with the main body of the article. When MCOTW gets to TS we'll apply a sensible pair of editing shears to all the fluff and cart it away. ]'' 23:21, 22 February 2006 (UTC)'' PS. Dr. JF de Wolff is very male. And yes, he's indispensible—firm, sensible chap, isn't he? He's one of, if not ''the'', "longest serving" Wikipedian doc; the medical articles here owe a great deal to him. ]'' 23:26, 22 February 2006 (UTC)'' | |||
| :::::Yes, I can see which articles have his mark, and which don't :-) I encountered the Summary style in some other very long articles I'm dying to dig my teeth into. Which reminds me: do you know if I really have to go back to the home page, and register a second user name, to be able to switch language versions on WP and edit in another language ? I should put out a HelpMe question and see if I can bug Commander Keane for the 100th time LOL ! OK, I'll try to focus my efforts now. ] 23:38, 22 February 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::::ah, ha ... answered my own question without bothering the Commander. This is dorky. ] ''Each language Misplaced Pages currently has a separate set of user accounts.'' Legitimate sock puppetry. ] 23:49, 22 February 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::—I was about to say. Incidentally, many users maintain the same username across the other projects (unless it has been taken by someone else). For example, the Encephalon on ], ], ] and ] is the same charming gent you've come to know on en.wiki ;-) He's not quite as active at these other places though. ]'' 23:58, 22 February 2006 (UTC)'' | |||
| :::::::There go the socks ! By the way, there's a problem with my Mozart wording: ''No Tourette's syndrome expert, organization, psychiatrist or neurologist has published concurrence that there is credible evidence to conclude that Mozart had Tourette's.'' Just because I've never encountered any published concurrence (having read just about everything there is to read on TS) doesn't mean none exists. There is a slim (to none) chance that someone somewhere published something, and I just haven't encountered it. I don't know how to re-word that, but it's poor wording. This is an example of why I'm never happy with my writing: it's more than a problem with prose that doesn't soar. ] 00:36, 23 February 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Re: Tourette syndrome == | |||
| You're bloody welcome! :) | |||
| By the way, it's an impressively detailed article; nice work! | |||
| Cheers, ] 23:06, 22 February 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Thanks for your kind comment- == | |||
| It was my first edit anywhere, but I don't think it was reverted. I removed the word "penis" from a place it didn't seem to belong, and it's still not there. | |||
| I hope I didn't do it wrong, but also I hope you don't think I was the original vandal. Anyway, thanks for being so welcoming. Maybe I will feel worthy of/ | |||
| ready for some actual writing/editing someday. thanks] 08:40, 1 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Hi, Hester! I'm looking forward to having some help! I'm new too, but let me know if I can be of any help. I left you a message on your talk page. ] 14:37, 1 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==Tourettes== | |||
| No problem :) - ] 13:44, 12 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Hey, Sandy, thank you for the awesome rewrite to the Tourette's article. As a person with Tourette's, I refer people to that page a lot, and it was in such shabby shape a few months ago -- it's so nice to have it fresh and clean and filled with good sources. Thank you, so very much. ] 13:51, 5 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Book plug? == | |||
| Well talk pages are for developing the articles. Having said that, a little bit a chatter is ok. I think in this case it's rather harmless (as long as they aren't spamming the message all over the place trying to advertise).--] 23:46, 21 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Possible vandalism == | |||
| Hi Sandy. I'm not sure about the the first case (that your reported on 7th April), the editor seems to do go work otherwise, so I think I'll leave that alone. | |||
| The second case, reported today (my time) is clear vandalism. ] appears to have stopped now, but the correct procedure is to warn them a couple of times on their talk page and then list them on ] so an admin can block them. These procedures are discussed at ]. There is not much point in me blocking the IP address now since it might have been assigned to a different person etc.--] 09:47, 12 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Given the series of warning on their talk page and your concerns, I put a strong warning at ]. If the editor continues to be disruptive perhaps an indefinite ban would be in order.--] 14:06, 12 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::I can't tell if that edit is vandalism. Hopefully, even if you didn't review the entire contributions history, the mistakes will be corrected eventually. You are not obligated at all to go through all the contribs.--] 14:49, 12 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::The two edits you presented appear to have been made in good faith. I'm not sure that there is anything I should do. The editor appears a little bizarre, but that is all.--] 00:30, 19 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==Colonel Marksman's Suggestive List== | |||
| For the Tourette syndrome page. | |||
| I first wanted to point out the separation between ] and ] pages. | |||
| *The way most other pages do it is with a very brief description over the certain topic, and post the main article "here". So, "Treatment of Tics" would have a sentence or two of mention, and a reference to the tic page that would actually hold the section. | |||
| *Here is a crude example of that "other" page I was asking about: | |||
| http://en.wikipedia.org/User:ColonelMarksman/TS_and_other_Tic_disorders | |||
| Here is a list of information suggested to be moved around: | |||
| *Instead of a long description of tics themselves here, add sections to the "tic" article describing them. In this article, it would be a brief overview description in the description section (1-3 sentences) with a link to the "tic" page for more information. | |||
| *"Differential Diagnosis" Keep first sentence and leave a link to "TS and other disorders" basically stating that "Tourette syndrome is confused with other disorders listed here: ....(page-so-and-so) | |||
| *We have "Treatment of Tics"... but this needs re-writing, e.g. "Treament of ''Tourette syndrome''." With another link to the ] page where necessary. | |||
| If the two are considerably interlocked, leave a link to the ] page. | |||
| *These above suggestions would clear away any repition on it's own (which is hard to specifically point out). | |||
| ] 17:27, 25 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::Hi, Colonel. I confess that I'm becoming confused about what you're suggesting -- your sample page is about TS and tic disorders, but there is already a page for ]s -- I'm not sure why we'd add another page about tics and TS, when we already have ], ] and ], which explains the differences. A lot of what you're suggesting is covered in the tic disorder page. I guess I'm missing the point you want to make ?? | |||
| ::I'm also confused about why we'd move treatment out of the TS article, since most people with transient or chronic tics don't seek treatment, and when treatment is needed, it's usually for TS? | |||
| ::I do like the idea of moving more of the tic info to the tic entry. And, think the major shortening of the article could be done via the vanity entries and experimental treatments, as well as moving some of the tic info out. ] 19:24, 25 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::: Colonel, I requested the input from a Wiki Physician, before operating on the article extensively. Encephalon has been helpful to me several times in the past. Here, you can view ] 00:02, 26 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Tourettes Guy AfD added again == | |||
| Hi, Sandy. I don't know that I agree with your decision to remove my edit to Tourette Syndrome, but I won't argue with it. But I don't see the need to remove the link to the "Tourettes Guy" <u>article</u> from the Coprolalia article. For one thing, I did not link the Tourette Guy site, but to the Tourettes Guy[REDACTED] article. Secondly, it is very common to cross-link to pop culture in Misplaced Pages. The Bionics article links to the "Six Million Dollar Man" article, the Great White Shark article links to the ''Jaws'' film article. There are countless such examples. | |||
| : Hi TPellman. (Please sign your talk entries with four tildes.) I will respond on ] 22:07, 25 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Good Faith == | |||
| After rereading your comments about the Tourette's Guy article, I skimmed through the talk page on Tourette Syndrome, and it seems that your policy of removing everything that you don't agree with is not just confined to one instance. You have still not refuted my point that Tourette's Guy is indeed a notable site, with three quarters of a million hits per day. I think you may want to more carefully examine your editing policies. ] 07:05, 26 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
Latest revision as of 15:49, 20 January 2025
| About me | Talk to me | To do list | Tools and other useful things | Some of my work | Nice things | Yukky things | Archives |
My will to participate in Misplaced Pages has waned due to the harassment it brings, both on and off Misplaced Pages, with real consequences to living persons and their families. I am following only those articles I have contributed to extensively, and issues or content areas where bullies predominate. I receive pings by email only; I may continue to occasionally check my watchlist and email, but please don't count on me to regularly respond to queries or to keep up with the work I once did. This user is no longer very active on Misplaced Pages.
January music
 | |
| story · music · places |
|---|
Happy new year 2025! Today, pictured on the Main page, Tosca, in memory of her first appearance on stage OTD in 1900, and of principal author Brian Boulton. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:57, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
Is this close paraphrasing?
I'm working on an article, but I'm really struggling with the phrasing. The source text is Receiving his LL. B. degree at Transylvania University later that same year, he began the practice of law. I've currently come up with He received a LL. B. from the university later in the year, and began a legal practice. (the context of Transylvania and 1833 is established in the prior sentence) but that's still too close. Hog Farm Talk 01:36, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hog Farm those are the hardest kinds of basic facts to rewrite in our own words! How about
(I had to look back at the article to understand how he did that so fast, and see that he already had been at West Point.) I also noticed:On April 30, 1833, he resigned from the military and enrolled in Transylvania University, to study law. After receiving a Bachelor of Laws degree, he started a law practice that same year.
- and his father was John J. Crittenden, who was an influential politican who was governor of Kentucky in the late 1840s and early 1850s, was the United States Attorney General in the administrations of Presidents William Henry Harrison and Zachary Taylor, and a United States Senator.
- might be
- and his father was John J. Crittenden, an influential politician (note typo), governor of Kentucky in the late 1840s and early 1850s, United States Attorney General in the administrations of Presidents William Henry Harrison and Zachary Taylor, and a United States Senator.
- Bst, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 06:40, 15 January 2025 (UTC)