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baseballbiography.com

What is the opinion of the above website? It is linked to 1,023 baseball pages. It doesn't appear to add any unique info, it doesn't reference any of their info to anything, it doesn't appear to have any significance to any reputable organization, it appears to be nothing more than an extension of a blog. On digging a bit deeper, I find it may have originally been baseballlibrary.com, which has 2,215 dead links in articles. I am of the mind that both of these links should be removed en mass by a bot. What are some other opinions? Rgrds. --BX (talk) 01:57, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Given what I currently know, I support mass removal. If any editor can provide more insight/context and believes it should be retained... please add comment. Dmoore5556 (talk) 02:45, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

@BX and Dmoore5556: From searching the archives, it looks like this has been discussed before. It's probably worth reviewing those discussions. Left guide (talk) 04:40, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

From what I just saw, prior discussions did not involve a lot of editors, but comments were negative about the site, except for one in 2010. Dmoore5556 (talk) 04:55, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

I continue to have the same viewpoint: without any documentation of its authors or its editorial control, the site doesn't provide enough information to be able to evaluate its reliability. isaacl (talk) 07:23, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

• Courtesy ping to remaining participants from the prior discussions that discussed reliability @Larry Hockett, Penale52, Caknuck, Epeefleche, and Mm40: Left guide (talk) 08:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Will reiterate I said back in October and agree with those above. Don't see how these links can stand with the state that website is in and the lack of value it contributes as a source. Penale52 (talk) 02:28, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

@Left guide: Thanks for the previous discussion links. It appears that baseballlibrary.com has been usurped since maybe 2015 (according to the last crawl by wayback on a few random pages), but it does include a list of authors with their credentials and each players' blurb is credited with initials. Unfortunately, some authors are credentialed but some are nobodys. Those may be salvageable if InternetArchiveBot links the archived page, but are they really worth it?

Regarding baseballbiography.com, per Isaacl, I'm convinced that all links (external links and references) to it should be removed ASAP. If there are no objections in the coming days I'll see if a bot could do it. Rgrds. --BX (talk) 23:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

BaseballLibrary.com could arguably meet WP:USEDBYOTHERS, but it's not the case with baseballbiography.com —Bagumba (talk) 04:15, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

I remember using baseballlibrary/baseballbiography way back in the day when there wasn't much else out there, but yeah I wouldn't consider it reliable personally. I keep meaning to one day go through my old DYKs and weed out those refs, might be easier to just semi-automatically replace them all with cn tags if we have a consensus that it's not reliable. Wizardman 22:37, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Ottawa Titans

Would someone like to improve the Ottawa Titans article? Copyright violations from the Titans' web site keep getting added. I rewrote a little bit of it this time, but I don't have enough interest/energy to do more. Any help would be appreciated! isaacl (talk) 02:01, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

The copyrighted text was re-inserted again. If anyone would like to help with filling in more of the Titans' history, that would be great! isaacl (talk) 01:20, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

Adding OPS and WHIP to League Leaders section in MLB seasonal articles?

Over the past few years, OPS has become a more preferred go-to offensive stat to batting average" measuring a hitter's offensive output, and many ballparks highlight a hitter's OPS over AVG, as per publications like The Sporting News, Chicago Sun-Times, and Yahoo! Sports. Misplaced Pages should catch up with the focus that the MLB world has for OPS over AVG by including it in their seasonal articles.

WHIP as a stat has been in mainstream baseball usage for a while now (as per The New York Times). As a means to have both the 'Hitting leaders' and 'Pitching leaders' with seven statistics, I think WHIP as a stat is the next-best stat that could be added to Pitching leaders.

I think OPS is used more than WHIP these days, though I'd like it so

I've bolded the additional stats in what the League leaders section for the 2024 MLB season would look like:

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Spesh531 20:45, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Mets–Phillies rivalry

Mets–Phillies rivalry has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 23:41, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Sasaki announcement

You are invited to join a related discussion regarding Roki Sasaki's announcement at Template talk:Current sports transaction § Proposed template wording change re: player/agent announcements —Bagumba (talk) 02:23, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

Two Halls of Fame in player infobox

With Ichiro Suzuki being voted into the National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum today, editors have simply removed the Japanese Baseball Hall of Fame section from his infobox because the USA Hall "takes priority". If he is in two Halls of Fame, then I believe the infobox should clearly reflect that, either by creating a second Hall section or by combining them somehow in the current Hall section in the infobox. Thoughts? --Torsodog 01:20, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

For reference, pages like Canadian Baseball Hall of Fame and Hispanic Heritage Baseball Museum Hall of Fame show the players that were also inducted into the the National Baseball Hall of Fame. There's other HOFs at Baseball Hall of Fame (disambiguation). —Bagumba (talk) 02:03, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Even more reason to get this sorted out! This is the first Japanese overlap, but finding a solution to this would be beneficial for allof the other double Hall players.--Torsodog 04:15, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

MLB, NPB, and KBO are the only current leagues that go in the infobox. So I'm not sure if Canadian, Mexican or similar Hall of Fames should even be in the infobox. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:58, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

• Agreed players like Ichiro, Larry Walker, Luis Aparicio, etc should have the capability to have multiple HOF's displayed. Just seems odd that Justin Morneau has Canadian HOF in the infobox and Larry Walker has nothing about it in his.-- Yankees10 02:38, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
• My rule of thumb is that the infobox should include key characteristics that are essential for a concise overview of the subject. I think membership in the Japanese Baseball Hall of Fame continues to be a key characteristic for Ichiro Suzuki. isaacl (talk) 03:34, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Does the infobox not let you put more than one HOF in it? If that's the case we need to get someone to fix the template. Spanneraol (talk)

It does not, it only allows for one, unfortunately --Torsodog 18:25, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Size If we starting noting multiple HOFs, up to five lines per entry (e.g. Dave Parker) seems quite bulky. Would others be willing to just have one line per entry (e.g. football's Troy Aikman), and leave the details to prose? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bagumba (talk • contribs) 05:42, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

I was thinking something along the same lines. I don't believe it needs to be as large as it is now. The infobox certainly doesn't need to specify the percentage vote or election method, that can be explained in prose. Also, I don't know if it's appropriate to use red, white, and blue along with stars anymore if the template is being used for multiple halls of different countries. --Torsodog 18:25, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

How common is it that there will be people with membership in multiple major HoFs? Thinking of the Canadian Hall - another that gets the banner treatment, of which you can see an example at Jimmy Key - there are a handful that are also members at Cooperstown like Ferguson Jenkins, whose infobox only shows the latter. But anyone with a career earning membership in multiple major halls will have a nice long article, so it's not like the longer infobox will overwhelm anything and I don't see the harm in having more than one hall banner. That said, if people want to trim the banners down to match what football and hockey use in their infoboxes I don't have a serious objection. Echoedmyron (talk) 01:41, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

Category:30–30 club

Not a good idea in my personal opinion. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 22:19, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

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