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Russian Air Force

Eurocopter, PLEASE DO NOT 'update' the information in the RussAF article from the Geocities/9059 Pentagon site. It is incomplete, old, and inaccurate in several places. As I've said before, the most accurate site is Vad777's site, even if you have to get up very early so to view it a few minutes after midnight EST. I will now have to go back and re-do your edits!! Regards Buckshot06 13:31, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Pardon. Golts and Butowski are among the best informed journalist out there- I'm sorry about my assertions. I will have to find AFM Aug 07 myself. But think. If you had the info, but not the money, you could construct a huge site, but not have enough money to host it- and thus have to put it on a free site. Why the best? Because I've seen several things on his site which I've disbelieved, and later found out through other coroboration to be true! That's why I said what I said. I will change the orbat source to AFM Aug 07. Apologies and best regards, Buckshot06 11:40, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Ro

Salut! Te-am gasit din greseala, dupa ce m-am uitat la Romanian Army, history contribution, si am vazut ca tu ai contribuit la articol ca sa fie promovat la GA. Bine ai facut. Daca te intereseaza chestii despre Ro si mai multe, poti sa vii la Misplaced Pages:Romanian Wikipedians' notice board. Sanatate si voie buna. --Thus Spake Anittas 21:32, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Pai pe Ro Wiki Notice Board poti cere ajutor in mai multe chestii si poti sa-ti gasesti colaboratori. Nu cred ca gasesti multi, deoarece majoritatea membrilor sunt interesati de comunisti, etc. Cred ca eu sunt singurul care am pus un efort mare in a crea articole despre batalii, majoritatea fiind din Evul Mediu. Daca te uiti pe pagina mea, ai sa vezi. Eu am sa incerc sa-l promovez pe Battle of Vaslui si cred ca o sa reusesc sa fac acest lucru anul acesta. Nu cred ca te pot ajuta prea mult cu articolul despre Apararea Ro, deoarece nu este un subiect in care pot contribui cu prea multe, dar poate ca unele din bataliile incepute de mine te pot ajuta (Battle of Marasesti, Targu Frumos, etc.). --Thus Spake Anittas 22:02, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Duplicate Image:Su25-TM.jpg

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Su-25

Hello, I'm kind of busy in real life and with work at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Peru. I'll try to give it a look over the weekend. Greetings, --Victor12 03:11, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

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Su-25 Copyedit

I went through your Su-25 article and copyedited a few sections. Take a look and see if it makes sense to you. JKBrooks85 15:31, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the Wikiwings! JKBrooks85 00:43, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Air force

I'd say it should stay at Romanian Air Force, where it is now. Common name and all that, you know. By the way, see my recent Prunaru Charge; do you think we could get up an article on the Roşiori? Biruitorul 19:16, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Images from www.aeronautics.ru

I have listed all of the images from aeronautics.ru at WP:PUI under a bulk listing. Your comments are welcome.Megapixie 11:54, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Problem with image tag in Image:Su-25Cockpit.jpg

The problem is as follows:

1. Misplaced Pages only allows fair use images under extremely restrictive circumstances - i.e. WP:NFCC
2. Images that have been granted[REDACTED] only permission {{Withpermission}} are only allowed to be used under the WP:NFCC criteria.
3. When we ask someone to release the image to[REDACTED] they must permit:

• Commercial use
• Modification

We allow them to require attribution, as it's part of the GFDL (also cc-sa or cc-sa-by).

I dropped the author a mail and he responded very quickly but in somewhat rough (autotranslated ?) English - I'm not sure I understood his reply, and I'm not sure he understood the above terms.

• Did he release the image as per above ? in which case we can change the tag back to {{attribution}}

or

• Is he saying the image is[REDACTED] only ? in which case we cannot use the image - per 1 and 2, since the use of the image does not meet WP:NFCC ?

Megapixie 07:58, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I asked him to give me his permission to use Su-25 images taken by him on Misplaced Pages, and he accepted. That's all. I don't mind if you change the copyright tag into a proper one, I'm not an expert on image copyright tagging. --Eurocopter tigre 08:21, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Based on a mail exchange with me - I believe he didn't understand the implications of releasing the image. He said that we could only use the image as it was on airliners.net - i.e. no modification. This breaks the deal per the above. I will arrange to have the image deleted. Checkout Misplaced Pages:Requesting_copyright_permission#For_images which gives a guideline about how to do this. Sorry about all this. I really am trying to help here. It may pass a A-class article review in milhist with dodgy images, but it'll get torn apart by the time it reaches FA-review. Regards. Megapixie 22:37, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I agree that it sounds stupid - but we must be able to re-distribute, modify and use commercially as a result of Misplaced Pages:Five pillars[REDACTED] as free content. Misplaced Pages only images could not be used by another project - for example http://en.wikibooks.org/Main_Page etc. Or any of our mirrors - for example answers.com. As a result we don't accept wikipedia only images that we couldn't use anyway under our WP:NFCC (i.e. without permission). This encourages people to create free images.

Where this is not possible - i.e. iconic images of historic events (Raising the Flag on Iwo Jima) and works of art that we are commenting on critically on we can use them in a limited way under WP:NFCC. I hope that explains things. Megapixie 22:57, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

The problem is that when I asked him specifically about commercial use and modification he replied:

I am sorry, but nor once providing betray into e - mail I beg to differ!! If her there do you want have, so only in form, in what was assumed from Airliners.net handsome day and I'm sorry

He was using automatic translation software, so a lot may have been lost in translation, but I believe he was indicating that he didn't want the image to be modified and was applogizing for not allowing us to modify it. Megapixie 23:02, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

The problem is right in the middle of that image template "Redistribution, derivative work, commercial use". Derivative work - i.e. modification must be permitted. Megapixie 23:06, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Any modification to the image must be allowed - cropping, rescaling, repainting (i.e. cloning out watermarks), using it in a montage - anything. Megapixie 23:24, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Mentatus

Hi. Unfortunately, I have no idea. Is he still active on ro wiki? Dahn 23:48, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

He must be a busy man, then. Though I wish he'd return soon. Dahn 00:03, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Other airliners.net images

Eurocopter, can you confirm that for the other images you have uploaded from airliners.net the authors gave permission inline with WP:COPYREQ#Declaration_of_consent_for_all_enquiries ? (i.e. allowing modification, commercial use, etc)

If you are sure that they have given their permission, then I would like to proceed with cropping the watermarks from the images.

If you are un-sure, could you seek clarification from the author(s). If they haven't given permission could you either tag them for speedy deletion {{db}} or change the tag to fair-use {{fairusein}} (which will probably result in their deletion).

Not to be dramatic but: As the uploader of the images the responsibility and potential consequences for the image's copyright status falls on you. Megapixie 05:18, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Have a look

At and send it to others if you agree. all the best Lear 21 13:56, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

It would be helpful if you reinsert the EU entry to the list from time to time. There are two editors who constantly revert the inclusion and support would be much appreciated. all the best Lear 21 12:11, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Su-25 lead

Hello there, I'm kind of swamped right now, but I'll try to work on it tonight or tomorrow. Greetings, --Victor12 19:29, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Please stop. If you continue to delete or edit legitimate talk page comments, you may be blocked from editing. Anonimu 19:46, 16 July 2007 (UTC)