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Doh! No I haven't! ~*Rushes off to check email*~ 22:15, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		For helping out the new users, not biting them, and for being helpful in everyday situations! Jmlk17 06:15, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and good job on the living in Colorado. Or did live. Just so happens to be the best state :) <cough><cough>. Jmlk17 06:25, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Awww, thank you so much Jmlk! And yep, I may not reside there at present, but my heart and soul does, and it IS the best state! It is home. And everyone knows, there's no place like home. 06:27, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Exactly. Has been home for me for years now actually :). Jmlk17 06:32, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm jealous. I want to go home, lol. 06:37, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Ariel is homesick.

The Editor's Barnstar

		The Editor's Barnstar
		I noticed that your edits were impressive and so I've decided to award you this Editor's Barnstar! Wikidudeman 08:07, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Wow two stars in one day! ~*Does the happy happy joy joy dance*~ Thanks WDM! 12:37, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Atheists

Thanks for your note. You're almost illegally cute. Nick mallory 04:00, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Who, meee? I'm an angel! See? Hee hee, actually thank you for cracking me up, seriously. 04:02, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Hola

Heyhey! I suppose getting off at around 11:30pm isn't that bad ;). Hope all's well, and that you're editing something fun right now :). Jmlk17 05:28, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Lol, didja sign offline/pass out? :) Jmlk17 08:23, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Nope! Not yet, I just wrote you back!

Excellent. Another wonderful email, thank you :). I will write you back later if that is alright, as I am quite tired now, and have an early, action-packed day to wake up to. Thank you for the email(s), and I look forward to writing and reading with you some more. Also, I may be without internet for the coming couple of days, but that will only keep me as a sporadic editor/internet user at worst. I always find a way to check my email and my watchlist :). Jmlk17 08:48, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Okie dokie, yep I'm gonna go to sleep too! Night Night!

Oh....wait

I'm not sure. Defence at Wiktionary says that defence is the British, and defense is US. This is a mystery. I wonder what the truth is...? ;) -- Anonymous Dissident 11:39, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Haha! I see where this must have just gone all disjointed - I wasn't correcting you at WP:RFC/N - I was just making the comment - you were right all along! -- Anonymous Dissident 11:49, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Farrell Heyworth

I have updated Farrell Heyworth. Does this meet with your approval? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jpmorganuk (talk • contribs)

Please refer to the references and policies left on your talk page, most specifically the notability, and reliable sources policies. Thanks! 20:01, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

and again

Now I spy you at WP:RFCN, how do you get so many barnstars so quickly!? *jealous* SGGH 21:33, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

You did do the right thing I think. My fantasically fun Monday was very enjoyable thankyou, got some pre-training police work done and performed surgery on my laptop! (if you go to the articles on screwdriver and laptop computer you will see what I removed!) was very exciting, and it works too! Got it working again. Now I'm just browsing the cricket results and listening to my beautiful lady ho-humming in the kitchen :) SGGH 21:44, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

You have a vocab as big as you... well I dunno, but its big. I wish I could squeeze cultural references into my statements like that. I think I do actually to be fair, am a writer after all! Not sure what she was doing in the kitchen, do love her so :). Kevin Pietersen made another 100! WOO! SGGH 22:21, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Cricket is the most brilliant sport, get a grip :P SGGH 22:21, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Hee hee hee hee

Hello

Thanks for your offer, of course I want it :) Also, how can I make that little square for leaving messages like the one you have ? I don't m,ean to copy exactly yours, I admire to be unique and will not copy you, but something like that more simple or basic... Thank you a bunch !Daoken 09:38, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks !

Wow, lots to study :) Will take it slowly. Thanks, you are very kind Daoken 09:47, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi PS expert ;-)

Hi, I saw that you are a PhotoShop expert. I have a hard time with it, do you also use After Effects? I might need a tutor!. BTW I do a lot of work also on the astronautical part of the french WP. Following presently the STS-118 mission. CU.Capbat 14:03, 14 August 2007 (UTC) Bat

Hello :) I do not use After Effects, I use Xenofex. I'm not sure I'd be a very good tutor, while I've worked with PS for almost a decade professionally, I don't think I'd be particularly good in teaching how I do things, as I have a rather unorthodox method of working, lol. I'm sure there are a ton of tutorial sites out there, though! And that's great that you're doing the French space stuff, awesome! 18:43, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Zoink

...enslaving your smilies for my purposes. Dust Filter 07:39, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Really nice

You not only have a wonderful attitude but your user page and your user talk page are simply beautiful :) May I ask you if you have done it all yourself or there is any place where I can go for getting some nice template for my own user page and user talk page ? Once again, please keep your presence in every wikiwhere it is just what is needed ! :) Daoken 14:22, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind words, Daoken. I actually just recently changed my user page, you can see the old version here. The old version was a derivative of one a friend of mine had, which was designed by another friend of mine, Phaedriel. She does userpage design for many people, when she has the time. This most recent design I put together a couple nights ago, after sumbling upon this template. I modified it, changed the colors, added a couple way cool images, and voila! (Ha! I know I make that sound easy, trust me, it took me many hours to figure out how to make it do what I wanted, .) Now, if you'd like to make some changes to your userpage, here is where I'd go to start: The Transhumanist devotes their time to helping people, by assisting in the virtual classroom, and also has a page about userpage design, and that can be found here. I hope that helps! Feel free to ask any other questions you may come across! 21:42, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

What can I say ? Ariel, you are simply GOLD! I already adopted the box you left for me at my talkpage, And all these links? Gosh! you got a wikifriend for anything I can help you at any time! Kindest regards Daoken 22:03, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

~*Giggle*~ I just remember what it was like when I joined, nobody really talked to me, for really two years. Granted, I lurked, and didn't talk to anyone either, but that was because I felt I was too new to talk to anyone, lol. So, seriously, drop me a line any time you have questions, I'm happy to try and answer, and if I can't, I probably can point you to someone or somewhere that could help. Lemme know if you want me to put the boxes into a table or anything for ya, Ciao! 22:07, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

You have me speechless! You even know my preferred color (aqua) ! Yyeessss! I got cool signature ! THANX bunches and more. I need to get oofline now but when I'm back tomorrow maybe if you have a bit of free time you can help me to put those boxes nicer in my page? The cool homesick first before the text and the three of projects after the text with the council one first? and give me some other ideas? I hope I am not abusing now, just that you have such a nice touch ! Daoken 23:58, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Award for humour

		The Barnstar of Good Humor
		For that very fast quip about me "sitting on the fence". Thanks for giving me a laugh. -- Anonymous Dissident 01:55, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

~*Hee hee hee*~ Hope it made you smile! Thanks for the award! 01:57, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

No worries. :) -- Anonymous Dissident 01:59, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Lol I just thought it was cute, your edit to RFCN crossed with mine, so I saw your fence problem, and it triggered my mischievous side! Mwuahahaha 02:01, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Citation

Dear Arielgold, Thank you for your valuable instruction. I read the tag on footnotes and went back over my text so I could properly create the footnote in the Misplaced Pages style. I am currently working on adding additional third party sources for my additions. However, Dominvsvobism deletes my additions repeatedly with no discussion or explanation. I am trying to make this a well rounded informative page and he wants to only make it a forum for one issue. I consider his efforts to be vandalism. Could you please take a look at what I am presenting and what he is presenting. All my additions have third party reliable news sources for them,(I am adding the footnotes). His additions rely on blogs.NancyHeise 07:07, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

You're most welcome, Nancy, and I'm afraid that I'd be unable to help with the issue that page currently seems to have. It seems the issues you mention have been to mediation before, and I'm simply not familiar enough with the content of the article, to be able to intervene at this time. However, it is my hope that the article's structure can at least be helped by my suggestions, as well as its readability, with removal of the URLs from the article. I've no doubt that you'll stay on top of the situation, and I wish you all the very best. For reference, I'm going to drop a little "cheat sheet" onto your talk page with reference helps, feel free to put it anywhere you please for your assistance, or to delete if you don't need. Ciao! 07:11, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Miami

Dear Arielgold, I am trying to add content and properly reference it. I am having trouble. When I add it and press save, it shows up in the edit page but not in the actual article.— Preceding unsigned comment added by NancyHeise (talk • contribs)

Nancy, I'll come take a look. 07:21, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Okay I left instructions on your talk page, explaining what was happening. If you have any more questions don't hesitate to ask! Also I created a link to a "sandbox" for you, if you'd like to do the experimenting there, rather than in the article, until you get it how you like it. 07:26, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Fixing the headers

Ariel Gold, I am very happy you are going to fix the headers. However, the article is so messed up right now it doesnt have hardly any information. could you please take a look at what the article looked like before DomivsVobiscm deleted most of it and replaced it with his long and detailed article on sexual abuse scandals? If I could edit it right now, I would revert to that article and then add any new and non inflammatory language subsequently added by DominvsVobiscm, if any. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NancyHeise (talk • contribs)

Yep, replied on your page :) 07:45, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Charities header

ArielGold, just to let you know, CAtholic Charities is a separate organization within the Archdiocese. The items listed underneath it are not part of the organization Catholic Charities of the Archdiocese of Miami. the items underneath that are another branch of charities that are completely separate from Catholic Charities. Catholic Charities of the ARchdiocese of Miami is the name of the organization, not a subject heading. The money raised and spent by that organization is separate and does not include schools, smaller archdiocesan charities, ministries and retreats. I hope you are not getting tired of helping me because I sure appreciate your help. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nancy Heise (talk • contribs)

Fixed, let me know if that's correct or not. And you can call me Ariel, lol. You don't have to use my last name each time 07:50, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Miami

Thank you for your last message, it was extremely helpful. I have saved my content on a microsoft word page and I am making the changes to my references on that. Right now, the actual article has a green tag that says we can't edit it. Can you tell me what is happening? I have complained about Dominvs using this site as a propaganda outlet for his group Christifidelis. He removes valid facts and replaces them with only information about Catholic Church sex scandals in the Archdiocese of Miami. While that is a valid topic and deserves a place in the article, it is not the only issue or fact that defines the Archdiocese of Miami. My facts have previously only cited the actual external links to these web sites but they are also referenced in third party newspapers and I would like to have the chance to add those references and include my information. Thanks. Nancy Heise NancyHeise 07:52, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Headers

Ariel, the headers are perfect now. Thank you for fixing everything. There is still a green tag on the article, should I wait a few hours before I begin adding third party references to my additions?NancyHeise 07:55, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

I'll remove the green tag in a few hours, I actually placed it there for you, while you were editing. That tells people you're busy working on it! Replied on your talk page to the rest. 07:59, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Administrator

Ariel, I would like the name of an administrator. I thank you for your very helpful advice and editing. This is the first time I have edited a Misplaced Pages article and I did so because I knew when I saw it for the first time a few days ago that it was seriously in need of content and was being used as a platform for propaganda by DominvsVobiscm who has vandalized other sites. It would be nice if it could actually be an unbiased and informative helpful encyclopedia entry. NancyHeise 08:11, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

I'll be happy to provide you with the name of one of my very good friends, as well as the name of an administrator that I don't know, but who is a mediator, and would possibly be able to assist you. Also, I'm going to take the liberty of dropping some links onto your page for your reference, feel free to move them to wherever you'd like. See your talk page for more! Cheers! 08:21, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Links

Ariel, Thanks for sending me the links.. I studied one of the articles called "featured articles" to see what an acceptable article is supposed to look like. It has all been very helpful. I will go to work on this site tomorrow - wait, it is tomorrow already! NancyHeise 08:44, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Hee hee yep it is! One of those sites has an "annotated" article, that goes through every single part of a great article's construction and layout, and is really helpful, let me find that and I'll drop that onto your page as well. 08:46, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Advice needed on content of sensitive subject

Ariel, I am happy keeping the links on my talk page. Maybe the other editors of the article will use them too. I would like outside advice on how to address the sex scandals in the church in this article. There were over 400 priests in the Archdiocese until the priest sex abuse scandals happened several years ago. About 5-8 of these priests were accused of sex abuse and were removed from their posts. One accused priest died of a heart attack. The Archdiocese has been sued for all of these accusations and settled with almost all of them for about $5 million total. It also developed new policies for dealing with volunteers, employees and priests which required all to undergo fingerprinting and background checks every five years. If we were to include details of each case like Dominvsvobism is doing with the Neil Doherty scandal, the encyclopedia entry would be very lengthy on this subject. Not all the accused priests have been convicted and at least two I know are fighting the accusations saying they are innocent. (The others have acknowledged their guilt and apologized) One of them has had the State Attorney's office investigate and they officially found the accusation to not be credible. All criminal charges were dropped against him but he is still being sued by a civil lawyer. I am wondering if it is against Misplaced Pages policy to name accused living people before they have been convicted of a crime. I am wondering if it would be more proper to have an entry that states the facts without listing names of accused priests and have one paragraph explaining the entire subject without going into the details of each case. The priests names are on the referenced articles, I think that should be enough. I would like to know what you think on this serious subject.65.8.214.18 09:19, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

(Assuming this is Nancy, just not signed in). Okay let me again reiterate that I'm not knowledgeable on the subject, as I'm not a Catholic, so truly I can't really judge. However, initially these are my impressions and suggestions:

First, I agree that the bulk of information regarding any alleged abuses should go to Talk:Roman Catholic sex abuse cases for discussion first, and if properly referenced, then included in that article, and not take up extreme length in individual church articles. However, it is certainly worth a small mention, perhaps with the header "Controversy", as long as a reliable source is cited for the allegations. Consider the information in context with the subject: It should not be given undue weight, but should be mentioned if it was widely reported. However, the article Roman Catholic sex abuse cases should have the bulk of any information pertaining to those incidents. We must keep in line with WP:BLP, when reporting on allegations against living persons, so that also should be kept in mind when editing. I'd suggest finding an news source (reliable) that specifically says that he was charged, but charges were dropped, and a civil case is pending. And that's all that needs to be mentioned, he is not "the church" in the context of the article, and thus, the allegations should not be given significant space in that particular article. I hope that helps, but realize that these are only my initial thoughts and impressions, and it may be better to discuss it on the Talk:Roman Catholic sex abuse cases page, or ask for someone knowledgeable about Catholic culture to discuss it with you further. 09:28, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

You made my day !

Got to my computer, logged in and There it was ! once again Fairy Ariel has been using the wand! THANX and thanx again It looks really nice, it's exactly my taste I just left the NZ banner for another time because I strive for no unnecessary nationalisms but I found it a nice touch anyway. I was adding some boxes and so, I just cannot figure out why the font in the homesick box becomes like in the text and not as in the original, but I will figure it out later. Ariel, if there is anywhere an award for Kindness or Best Welcoming WikiAmbassador tell me because you should get it! (seriously, tell me if there is or if can be created) All the best and kindest regards from a happy kiwi (think in a dancing kiwi)Daoken 10:06, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

I am very glad you like it! As for the homesick box, the text looks the same to me, so I'm not sure what you mean. It might be your browser, are you using Firefox? You can move the homesick box down to the bottom area, or I can try and force it to look like the rest of the boxes, if you want. Just let me know, and feel free to ask if you have questions about the userbox tables or anything else. And as to the award, yes there are awards, but I'm far too modest to go pointing to them . Your thanks is more than enough, and I'm very happy you like it! Happy Day! 10:11, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

New project WP:TRUEORIG

Dear Ariel, there is a project in which we could like to have people like you, it is a task which in spite of that the spirit of it is for helping, someone could feel injustified, so we need who knows what kindness is about, please give a look and see if the topic interests you WP:TRUEORIG , if it doesn't, no harm done, if it does, you will be very welcome and if you can help to make a nice workable Talk page, you will be double welcome If you don't have the time for helping with the talk page but you have some interest in helping with the topic and the project, this is more important and the reason to invite you. If the topic or the time don't fit your wikilife, no need to explain, you are enough wonderful as you are Daoken 11:09, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the invite! Reading the project page, it states: We are a group dedicated to improve Misplaced Pages's articles accuracy regarding cultural and historical lineage of modern religions, movements, organizations, groups and societies). (which has a number of grammatical errors I'm about to fix, lol)

I'm afraid I truly don't know much about lineage of religions, or really societies, however, I'd be happy to place the {{histref}} tag on pages I think need help! And if you'd like something done with the talk page, discuss it there to get input, but I'd be more than happy to assist if needed. Cheers! 11:27, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the fixing, my fingers run amok and many times a write how I sound , thanks for kindly fix all that, can you just give a fast look because I was just adding a section and I think was after your fixing, sorry about that :(, will not be more adding now. Thank you also for the help to put the banners, it will surely help. From one homesick to another, so nice it is to have a smiling fairy around Daoken 11:45, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Third party review of Nancy Heise contribution

Ariel, thank you, I will request a third party to review and include my information. If you will notice, the material about Christifidelis and my information both have the same references. If you remove my material, you should remove the material about Christifidelis since they are both different sides of the same story published on the same referenced source.NancyHeise 12:16, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

I'll let you remove the appropriate links 12:26, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Ariel, you are an extremely helpful person, I saw how you fixed my reference and I am now using the proper format thanks to your example. I am currently going through the page and adding third party references to what is already there. Thanks, NancyHeise 12:33, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

You're more than welcome, feel free to ask if you run into any additional problems. I'll keep the green "under editing" tag up there for the day, and remove it later, to assist you, or if you're comfortable with removing it when you're done, feel free to do so. 12:35, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Touched by a WikiFairy

I wonder if there is any userbox that says "This user has been visited by a WikiFairy. Thank You!" and other like "This article (or this page) has been touched by a WikiFairy. Thank You!" I would love to have those to put in my userpage and the projects page and I know many people would like to add them too in thanks to the WikiFaerie who helped them. If doesn't exist, can I propose it somewhere? Daoken 12:37, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Hrmm, I don't think so, but I'll tell you what, I'll make you a userbox for it later today. It wouldn't be appropriate for the project space, but that's okay. But you can always "smile" at people for any reason. I'll show you on your talk page. 12:42, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Loved the smile. About the two boxes for thanking Wikifaeries, can you add (small) "show your appreciation to your helping Wikifaerie with this banner" ? or something like that? Nothing urgent, when you have the time and disposition will be just great, in the meaning time keep making your good actions everywhere Daoken 13:43, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Schools

Ariel, Do I need third party references for the information about the Archdiocesan schools. There are something like 38 different schools. Is it enough that this fact is taken from the Archdiocese website? I saw in the guidelines that if something is a fact, it does not need a third party reference. Please let me know what you think. NancyHeise 12:42, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah that reference should be fine. If you were commenting on the school itself, such as teaching quality, then you'd need outside references, but just to list them, no, you can take that from the Archdiocese site. 12:44, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

A big one

Daoken has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Hee hee, thanks Daoken! 12:58, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

help

Ariel, DominvsVobiscm has deleted all my entries twice this morning.NancyHeise 18:33, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Need your opinion please

Could you give a look in my sandbox and see what you think of those banners before I present them to the Kindness project ? I just worked on your model with my poor skills, but are banners I intend to propagate. Thanks Daoken 16:06, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism continues

Ariel, I have spent hours adding third party references and external links to this page. DominvsVobiscm is repeatedly eliminating all my work and reverting to an earlier very incomplete and very biased version.NancyHeise 18:33, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Hello!

I got your message! Have not chatted in a while whats up? I see you are doing great here, making wiki friends! Hope all is well on wiki and IRL. Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 17:35, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Miami

Dear Ariel, I just saw you response to my previous email. I am removing the three items from the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Miami article that deal with sexual abuse allegations and homosexuality and replacing them with a reference to the Misplaced Pages article on that subject. Thanks for your unbiased advice.NancyHeise 18:38, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

I have done everything that can be done to the site Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Miami. I think I am finished editing. Could you please take a look and see if there is anything else to be done? If the tags could be removed and the article rated and protected from vandalism I would be most grateful. NancyHeise 19:14, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Edit on my user page (sebleblanc)

I'm sorry I got you confused, but the anonymous contributor that edited my sandbox was really no other than myself. I did not notice I was not logged in, although I could have used a more appropriate summary than the random crap I wrote. Yes, I did have butterflies in my house. I even had one on my monitor! Have a nice day! :) --Sébastien Leblanc 20:26, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Don't worry, it was only a sandbox. Anyway, MediaWiki keeps histories of all revisions of a page.

Thank you for being alert in fighting vandalism! --Sébastien Leblanc

Oh I know you could have gotten the revision back, was just explaining my reasoning why I thought it wasn't you! ~*Grin*~ Thanks! 23:12, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Lawrence Lande

Before you start dropping unverified messages on pages other people are in the process of writing, I suggest you actually check the history to determine whether or no the author has been working on the article for longer than 10 minutes.

Please try to show a greater degree of ettiquette to those who are trying to make Misplaced Pages a richer resource, in future.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Thelad101 (talk • contribs)

Dear Thelad101, Contrary to your criticism, I actually did look at not only the article's history, but your edit history as well as your contributions. I noticed you've had pages deleted before, but I assumed good faith, and decided not to pass judgment on the article, though I question the notability. I added the "unreferenced" tag for assistance to others who may want to help the article, and the adding of that tag does nothing to detract from the content. I also stated specifically in my edit summary that while I (at that time) question the notability, it was not possible to tell without references, so I was leaving it open. (Summary says: (add unref tag, add ref section, ext links section, question WP:NN. Can't tell without refs)) I would request that you not be so defensive, and realize that those tags are there to assist others, who may also wish to contribute to the article's growth. I should note that you removed the tag, but did not provide any properly referenced, reliable sources. I'd encourage you to put the tag back so others may assist in the article's development. Sincerely, 05:25, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Reliable sources???

If an article is about a famous author and manuscript collector who donated a significant collection to McGill University and the article contains an external link to the website of McGill University confirming the same, how can you possibly state that the page cites no reliable sources?

There is one article that I had deleted. If you look at the history of the thing, you will see that I had it deleted after rewriting it, but thank you for your grace and presumption of good faith.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Thelad101 (talk • contribs)

Let me see if I can explain this, and do so in a way that you don't feel defensive. I will re-state that nothing I did to the article hurts it, in fact, it is to assist in the article's development. (I'd gently remind you to keep in mind that you do not own an article, just because you create it.) I do understand wanting to see your work be productive, and I was trying to help you. Again, I simply added sections that were missing to the article to help others, and placed a tag stating it needed references. You are creating an article about a person. Thus, it is a biography. For the purposes of verifiability, references must be cited. I do not argue with any facts in the article, and I have no doubt that the person did donate his collection to the university. Let me review the official policy regarding articles for you:

Misplaced Pages:Verifiability is one of Misplaced Pages's core content policies. The others include Misplaced Pages:No original research and Misplaced Pages:Neutral point of view. Jointly, these policies determine the type and quality of material that is acceptable in Misplaced Pages articles. They should not be interpreted in isolation from one another, and editors should try to familiarize themselves with all three.

"Articles should rely on reliable, third-party published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy."

Now, considering this is a biography, the details of the gentleman's life need to be verified, by a third party published source. The University is certainly a valid external link, but it should not be the only reference in the article, because it is associated with the subject. I am more than sure if you do some research, you can find news articles published on the man, since the article states he was an author, certainly something he published was reviewed at some point?

Allow me to direct you to the specific guidelines that you can use, it is a list of criteria for biographies that you can read, going down the list, finding areas that are applicable to your particular subject, and use those as a jumping-off point towards getting references relating to the subject. In this case, Lawrence would be considered a Creative professional, as an author. (It should be noted that when it says "The person's work has been a substantial part of a significant exhibition", the policy is referring to his original work, i.e. any books he wrote.)

If the depth of coverage is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may need to be cited to establish notability.

Please note that I am not arguing the notability, I am just stating that per the policies here, notability needs to be verified, that's all. And the tag I placed simply alerted anyone else interested in the subject, that references were needed, thus allowing them to come help the article's development. I hope that clears up not only my motivations for placing an "unreferenced" tag, but also the policies behind biographies to assist you in further developing the article. Let me know if you have any further questions, or would like any input. Thanks, 06:00, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

I love your vandal warnings!

I like the vandal warnings you have, with the cute images and everything. They just seem that much more friendly. Are these a template, or do you do it by hand ? spazure (contribs) 08:44, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! I made them, they're a template, you can see most of them User:ArielGold/Boxes2 here. And I did design them with the goal of them being more friendly, so I'm glad to see others appreciate them too! (They all have parameters to fill in, so if the text seems odd, it is because just throwing them up without the parameters makes them seem oddly worded.) 08:53, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

WikiFairy box

Hi Ariel. Thank you for the WikiFairy box. Do you mind if instead of "this user's page" says simply "this page" in case is a talk page or so ? and can I add in italics "Thank you!" ? If you are ok with that I can make the changes, if you think is not OK then we leave it like that. I just wanted to show thanks and not only say that a WikiFairy was there, perhaps both cases can happen ? I don't know, let me know.

About the banners in my sandbox, are not for templates like officially or so, just kind of boxes or messages for kindness use, I noticed that there are not truce messages like that available, only an old proposal of sending a dove, I just wanted to contribute to resolve situations, in my real life I am often called to mediate in nasty crisis. I will present those as proposal to the WikiProject Kindness if you think is ok.

About the email, that is fine, sorry to have send it and apologies if you took it perhaps felt as an invasion of privacy, the mpeg was just a short one with the most hilarious Levis advertisement I have seen, so just wanted to send you a laugh after you have send me so many reaasons to smile, sorry if was out of etiquette.

About you wonderful boxes at ArielGold/Boxes2 , can be used by others ? (is there a template or so). Are very nice tools for a soft approach and informative enough for getting the attention needed, well done!

One last question, at the Project you were invited, we have a bit of a problem with the templates because they don't cause that the categories appear automatically in the pages where placed (neither the "histref" nor the "participant" one. Also the pics in the participant in some browsers as Neoplanet appear with white background looking messy. If and when you have the time, could you give a look at those, I cannot figure it out. The most important is the matter of making the categories appear automatically.

As always, loooots of thanks. Daoken 17:06, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Your ArielGold/Boxes2

About you wonderful boxes at ArielGold/Boxes2 , can be used by others ? (is there a template or so). Are very nice tools for a soft approach and informative enough for getting the attention needed, well done! Daoken 19:48, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi i saw your afterthought message in my talkpage. You got it wrong, I just admired your work and was wondering if in a given situation was better than the standard issue, I don't go around like a lone ranger, what gave you that thought? I am very often called to be a crisis mediator in my job never an avenger crusader. Shame you left that message because it may look as if I have been going around on a private raid :( Daoken 20:18, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

No no, you misunderstood my comment, in no way do I suggest you're doing that, I'm simply saying if you are interested in doing Recent changes patrol, it is a good idea to not just jump into it, that's all. I'm sorry if it came across in a way other than it was intended. I'll see if I can clarify it, but honestly I meant it as an offer of help, should you be interested in getting into Recent Changes patrol. 20:20, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

I use my custom boxes exclusively for recent-changes patrol, so when you asked if you could use them, I assumed that was the reason you'd be using them for, since they specifically relate to vandalism, blanking pages, or other common issues found during RC Patrol. That's why I made that assumption, so my apologies again. 20:27, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

No need to apologize, I know you don't do things for bad, I didn't get bad about what you said, just looked bad in my talk page to the occasional reader who didn't know why you urged me to take it slowly, that's all. Do not worry about, no harm done, you are still the best in my wikiheart Daoken 20:32, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Daoken, its your talk page, feel free to erase or archive the comment if you like. It would not upset me at all. Archiving is preferred, but not required, so if you would prefer the comment not be on there, remove it, or ask me, and I'll remove it. I was just offering my assistance should you be interested in getting into RC patrol, based on your interest in my warning boxes. I'm sorry you saw my offer as something someone would think was negative, as it was in no way intended that way. But seriously, if you'd like to erase the comment, feel free to do so. 20:39, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the editing, we can add Fairness to all the other great things about you Daoken 21:00, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't have any problem admitting when I've made a mistake, and I try to do everything I can to fix it, when possible. 21:02, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

On the subject of vandalism

Can you tell me or indicate me where to read about if there is any way in Misplaced Pages to backup the project or articles in case the get vandalized (for reinstatement) ?Daoken 21:04, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

What you know ? Double help ! So double thanks !! Daoken 21:24, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Sorry! No Apologies Needed ~*Grin*~

Hey. As you may have seen I answered Daoken's question on his talk page. I did not do this to try to annoy you, or anyone, just to help him and so you woudn't have to spend your time answering the question (you seem to answer a lot ;) ) I hoped you would see before you started typing, but I think you dident. Sorry  Tiddly Tom  21:15, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

It is not a problem at all! I appreciate your additional input and wording! 21:18, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks very much for not biting my head of, as I am sure you are aware, other users probably would :P I must say I haven't found another editor as of yet that is as kind/helpful as you :) Keep up the great work :)  Tiddly Tom  21:41, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Wow, thank you so much for such kind words, seriously. Each day, I just hope that I can make a tiny bit of difference to someone, and if I've done that, then I would consider the day a good one. And if I can do it while making someone else smile, all the better. 21:57, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks, yeah, sorry -- I was going to leave you a note about your comments but I'm really busy at the moment -- I was just worried about tiding over the mediation so it won't spin out of control while I'm gone for a few days. I didn't mean to imply by moving them that your comments weren't useful. I'll leave a more responsive message in the next couple of days. Andre (talk) 23:30, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Andre, absolutely no worries I thought that! I don't consider my participation integral to the mediation, and I am not at all upset that you didn't leave a note, truly! You do your RL stuff and have fun if you can, and this will still be here when you return. 23:36, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Mediation

Ariel, I sent this same note to Andrew Fader. He is moving from home to college for the next few days so I am asking you also to do this if he can not. I object to the page Roman Catholic Archdiocese being locked as it is with DominvsVobiscm's version. There are changes he made that are inflammatory and incorrect. As the page stands right now, it is a propaganda tool of the catholic and homosexual hate group of Christifidelis. I request that the version be reverted back to my non inflammatory version until the dispute is resolved. I thank you for your efforts to resolve our little spat. NancyHeise 01:13, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi Nancy, I would suggest that you just post that information on the mediation, be sure to mention the current revision is incorrect, and specifically quote incorrect passages, with what you had them as, along with references (but don't use the ref tag, since there are no footnotes in the mediation page) I'm not able to revert it back, and until it is mediated, I don't know if another admin would be willing to revert Andre's decision. I do understand fully your concern, and I did notice it was locked with that version, but as I'm not an admin, there truly isn't much I can do that I have not done already. All I can say is be as precise, factual, and neutral as possible when making the notation on the mediation page (which you always are, so that's not really an issue), be sure to list the resources, and don't forget to (~) sign the post! *Grin*. 01:22, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Flnclan

Thanks for asking me about this user's actions. Please look at User talk:Flnclan for some background about the ongoing problems this user has been causing. I believe that this user has edited under Zim2007 (talk · contribs), Thehalo1noob (talk · contribs), Angrygamer (talk · contribs), and Flnclan (talk · contribs). After I first asked this user this question, the Zim2007 account started vandalizing. Another admin blocked Zim2007. Ever since that time, this individual creates account after account. It seems like every time a question about this is posted on the newest account's talk page, that account goes into hibernation and the individual creates another brand new account. This individual has been repeatedly asked about this situation, but he never verifies or denies this suspected sockpuppetry. Instead, he totally denies mine and other's questions. The newest account name, Flnclan, has now been making all sorts of inappropriate changes to the user pages and talk pages of the earlier accounts. This includes removing the sockpuppet templates like you mentioned in your comment to me. I would encourage you to look into this. My latest message on Flnclan's talk page warns him that if he continues to make edits to the user pages and talk pages of the older accounts (like removing the suspected sockpuppet templates) he will be blocked from editing. As a brand new admin, I would certainly welcome some help/advice in this matter. --MatthewUND 02:00, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the update, I've replied further on your talk page. 02:17, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Somebody Stole The Buck

Looks like it was taken care of before I came on. =) Thanks though! -WarthogDemon 02:26, 18 August 2007 (UTC)