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September 3

Why is my IP address blocked?

I was trying to access the help desk when it was said that my ip address was blocked as it was believed that i was using a zombie computer. Also, i was banned from editing pages. To what i know, i haven't edit any pages in wikipedia, so why am i banned and also, why do i keep on receiving messages saying that i have been posting nonsense on wikipedia? One example given is the odex page. I had not visit that page before till just now, so how could i possibly have edited and posted nonsense on that page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.120.68.69 (talk) 01:33, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Your IP address is shared by multiple users, and one or more of them were vandalizing. You can avoid receiving these messages by creating an account.--Max Talk (+) 01:36, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Replacing fictional bio with more important actual person's bio

The page on Peter Reilly is currently about a fictional character from a television show. I feel that the main article related to this name should be on the real-life Peter Reilly who was falsely arrested for the murder of his mother after police extracted a false confession from him after 16 hours in custody.

I have more information on the actual case regarding the false imprisonment of the real life Peter Reilly. I feel that the main article for this name should be on the real person, not the fake. How would I set that up? Coolgamer 01:37, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Other than a single news event, what is the real-life Peter Reilly known for? WikiNews is for news events (and people who are notable for a single news event). -- Kainaw 01:44, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

This is more then notable enough to be worth a bio on Misplaced Pages. The case made national news and played a part in changing how confessions were allowed in court cases in the future. 86,600 Google hits, and books regarding the landmark trial and re-trial were made. A documentary was made about his case, as seen at http://www.truthinjustice.org/peter-reilly.htm . Coolgamer 01:47, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

ec - If the case itself is notable, make a page about the case. Our guidlines on Biographies of Living Persons are very important, and someone only known for a single event in their lives is often not going to satisfy that policy. A neutral article on the case itself may be worthwhile, however. Focus on the article about the case, not the person. -- 68.156.149.62 02:00, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Be sure that the information is reliably sourced. The sources must prove either that he was improperly arrested, or that there is a movement to release him because of the belief that he was improperly arrested. Misplaced Pages can't say "he was improperly arrested". Blogs, campaigns to free him, personal opinion won't work. Corvus cornix 17:14, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

I have sources. This was not just one news event, this was a series of major news events that added together warrant a proper bio. All I need to know is how to create the page without deleting the article on the fictional character. Coolgamer 17:25, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

I need help in creating a new account

69.137.95.35 01:58, 3 September 2007 (UTC)It keeps telling me it does not recognize my user name. eileenhargis and password redacted. Please help me get on this site. email redacted

Considering anyone who can view this page (and its history) now knows the password to that account, I suggest you create a new one. -- 68.156.149.62 02:00, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

From the look of things you were trying to sign into an account that you never actually created. User:Eileenhargis has never been registered. Were you trying to enter your name and password into this page? That page is only for logging into existing accounts. To create an account, you need to go to this page and follow the instructions. And yes, 68.156.149.62 is right, please don't use the password you told us. It is an extremely bad idea to let anyone else know your password. Raven4x4x 04:35, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Removing Speedy Deletion Templates

Are admins really the only ones that can do this? I removed one (from a page I didn't create, mind you) because the article didn't meet speedy deletion criteria (my edit told the other editor to submit to AfD) and was warned for it, being told only admin can remove speedy deletion criteria?

In addition, the warning told me that "as the originator of the article" I could not remove an SD template. I didn't originate the article. Or even care about it. I just noticed it didn't meet SD criteria.

So...it's really a two parter...can only admin remove Speedy Deletion templates...even if the article doesn't meet SD criteria? And...can I remove a faulty warning from my page? Smashville 05:01, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Anybody but the creator can remove Speedy tags if they have a legit reason.--Max Talk (+) 05:28, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

yes, you can. Tell the person that told you that that it only applies to the creator of the article, and that if they want it gone that badly WP:AFD is still there --lucid 05:35, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

The above are correct. Anyone but the creator can remove CSD tags from an article, provided they are not CSD. As for your second question, you can remove anything you wish from your talk page. i 05:39, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Article sections for biographies

Okay, I'm looking but not finding...

Here's the issue: The Joe Nathan article includes a couple pieces of personal information (seen here). It's been worked into the sections of the article where chronologically appropriate.

Here's my question: The sections, as you will note are all titled "career" in some form or another. It's been my experience that biographies include "Personal life" sections or the like. Is this in a guide somewhere or is it just sort of a standard? Does it not really matter? I like the way it's been worked into the article. It reads very well, but I don't like that it clashes with the section titles.

Anyway, this is part of a GA review, so I welcome the opinions and help of others. I've looked over the relevant guides, but I can't find anything. Regards, LARA ♥LOVE 05:01, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Anarchism

How the heck did this article get deleted? Murderbike 06:52, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

It's coming back, not permanently gone. Some moronic vandal went and made a heap of mess (he didn't delete the article, though) and so deleting the article (which can be restored fully, with the whole edit history and talk page) was the only option. Sebi 06:56, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Webpage is not displayed properly after login.

Hi,

I have an account with Misplaced Pages. I am facing a problem when I log on to Misplaced Pages site. After logging on the website, the page is not displayed properly. I think this is a problem with the "Skin". I was playing with changing the GUI display from SKIN,and after that I was getting this error.

After logging to the Wikimedia page, the website has white background and link in left size. The fonts on the page (for link as well as for other contents) is quite big.

However, I am able to see the proper Misplaced Pages GUI if I log out. So, it seems that there must be certain settings (skin, color or font settings) associated with my account.

Can you please restore this settings to default.

Regards, Ashish Patel Login Name: zoom2ashish Mail: (removed to prevent spam) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zoom2ashish (talk • contribs) 07:12, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

We cannot change your skin without your password (and don't give that to anybody). Go to Special:Preferences. Click "Skin", then "MonoBook (default)" and "Save". PrimeHunter 11:23, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

How to make a userpage

how do i make a userpage? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamjohnnie8 (talk • contribs) 07:41, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Click on your username and add what you want to the blank space, you should also look at WP:USERPAGE--$UIT 07:51, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

ghargaon and pathwada

i cant find out my village named ghargaon and pathwada. Please tell how can i find it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bishtjayvir (talk • contribs) 08:00, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

The articles don't exist. You could create them if you want--$UIT 08:20, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Suppressing summary

Hi, how do I suppress the content summary in a page? I read somewhere that I can do it, but can't find out how... thanks -- Outspan 10:36, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure what you're referring to; what part of a page is it that you don't want to see? --ais523 10:45, 3 September 2007 (U T C)

You need to put __NOTOC__ in the top of the page. See WP:TOC for more info. Kevin 10:46, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Renegade Consulting

Hello Misplaced Pages

I have recently opend an account so I can put information re my company, Renegade Consulting Pty Ltd (Australian based). To start with I have tried to edit the 'Renegade' page but it keeps getting removed. I assume this is because I am doing something wrong, can you help me please.

Thanks,

James Hutchins Renegade Consulting

Renegade consulting 10:38, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Creating an article with info on the company you own/working at is regarded as violation of neutral point of view (see WP:NPOV). If your company is notable, someone will create the article for you sooner or later. Remember Misplaced Pages is NOT an advertising space. -- Outspan 10:42, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

It is also a conflict of interest. :-) Stwalkerster talk 10:45, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Responded at length on user's talk page. --Dweller 10:47, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Does he get the orange "new message" thingy even if he's not a registered user? hmm -- Outspan 10:52, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the answer to that is 'sometimes'. See bug 9213 for information about the new-messages-to-anons bug. (The answer ought to be 'yes', but something's wrong with the code and the bar doesn't always come up.) --ais523 11:11, 3 September 2007 (U T C)

Creating an article that has the same name as one that already exists

I'm wanting to create a Biographical article about the British Jazz Pianist Matthew Bourne. Unforchunatly there exists an article on a British ballet and dance choreographer of the same name (Matthew_Bourne). How do I go about creating a seperate article for the Pianist? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattroberts66 (talk • contribs) 13:24, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

You create the new article under a name like Matthew Bourne (pianist), then place an {{otheruses4}} template at the top of each of the two conflicting articles, so that people who find the wrong one can navigate to the right one (see Template talk:Otheruses4 for instructions). --ais523 13:29, 3 September 2007 (U T C)

Status Bot Help?

Can someone help me on my userpage please? I'm having a bit of trouble adding statusbot to my userpage.

Thanks, Perfect Proposal 14:43, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Wait 5 minutes, and then check again; StatusBot doesn't have a perfect reaction time, and it takes it some time to react to a user signing up. (By the way, you had two status indicators on your userpage; I've removed one of them for you.) --ais523 14:49, 3 September 2007 (U T C)

LogMeIn, Inc

My company, LogMeIn, Inc. used to have a presence on Misplaced Pages. A search last week, however showed that the page no longer exists.

We can, of course, recreate a page, but we would like to know why the original entry was deleted. Is it possible to find out who deleted the original entry. There is little point in doing something only for it to disappear again.

Thanks in advance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by LogMeInAndy (talk • contribs) 14:53, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Just click on a link to the page (here's one: LogMeIn), and you'll get information showing you which administrator deleted it and why. It seems there was a deletion discussion about the article (Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/LogMeIn), and then it was recreated and deleted after that. If you disagree with the deletion, or think you have new evidence, see Misplaced Pages:Deletion review to request a review of the deletion. --ais523 14:57, 3 September 2007 (U T C)

Development of three germinal layers

development of three germinal layers —Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.135.238.95 (talk) 15:20, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Do you have a question? PrimeHunter 16:13, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

It sounds like you're trying to research something - if this is the case, you'd be much better off asking a clearer question at the Reference Desk, which specializes in research. We're mainly here to help you use Misplaced Pages. Sorry. Hersfold 17:07, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Q-zar

I did a search on Q-zar, and your web site was second in line. I am the sole owner of Q-zar Systems. JR Robles. The history section claims that JR Robles, and Tim Foster purchased Q-zar equipment from John Jarvis. I Purchased the equipment from Mr. Jarvis soley. Tim Foster was merely contract labor for my company. (Q-zar Systems) I'm the sole owner of the DBA, bank accounts, leases ect... I purchased over one thousand vest with network units, and charging systems, score boards, and timers from Mr. Jarvis. The information published on your site claims we only purchased 180 vest. Please make these changes to acurately reflect Q-zar Systems.

I can be reached (contact details removed to protect you from spammers) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.200.224.218 (talk) 16:38, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I'd suggest posting your concerns on the article's talk page, where you're more likely to attract the attention of someone active with the editing of that page. Thank you for not making these edits yourself, as being the owner you would have a conflict of interest which we work to avoid, however we do greatly appreciate your help in pointing out mistakes such as these. If you can provide some easily verifiable source for this information, I'm sure someone would be happy to correct the information. Thanks! Hersfold 17:06, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Free use the any powerfull telescope for euducation.

Hello[REDACTED] support team, I beg to drow your kind attantion that i want to free use the any powerfull telescope for my won exprience or euducation. I am indian so pleace hallp me. My E-mail-<email removed for privacy>

Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sukdevadhikary (talk • contribs) 16:58, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I don't think you're at the right place. Misplaced Pages doesn't own any powerful telescopes, and certainly none in India. I've removed your email address so you don't get spam, but I'm afraid that's really all we can do to help. If you had a specific telescope in mind, I would suggest contacting the owners of said telescope and checking with them. Hersfold 17:02, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

However, if you mean you want permission to use an encyclopedia article on Misplaced Pages for educational purposes, please do. You may copy, modify & redistribute all Misplaced Pages content as long as you grant "the same freedoms to others" and acknowledge the authors of the article used. See Misplaced Pages:Copyrights for more about this policy and how to satisfy its requirements. --Moonriddengirl 17:09, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Try: google:online telescope; several of the search results look interesting. Also see: National Virtual Observatory#Public Access. Bear in mind that astronomy these days is mostly astrophysics and data analysis rather than just peering through telescopes. If you want to be an astronomer, you should study all the mathematics that you can. --Teratornis 16:43, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Information box

There is an information box 'STUCKISM' at the bottom of the page Stuckism. I want to add to it, but when I click edit, you can't see it. How can I edit it? Kipof 17:36, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

It's at Template:Stuckism. KTC 17:40, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Got it. Kipof 17:51, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I think someone is hacking into my account.

I have noticed VO pages I've never heard of on my watchlist. I think someone is hacking into my account. What should I do? Henchman 2000 17:43, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Check the move log for the pages you've never heard of. It's quite possible that someone decided to engage in some page-move vandalism, in which case both the original page and the page it was vandalise-moved to will end up on your watchlist. (If they were page-move vandalism targets, you can safely just remove them from your watchlist.) --ais523 17:47, 3 September 2007 (U T C)

Reading Old Deleted Articles

Is there any way to access an archive of deleted articles? I'm guessing the answer is probably no. 68.54.42.126 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.54.42.126 (talk) 18:10, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

This is something that in most cases only admins can do. But if you had your article deleted and for some reason it is believed that in the future the article could be included in Misplaced Pages, the admin who decided to delete the article will usually create a copy of that page on your userspace for you to store and improve until all requisites (e.g. notability req. for people) are satisfied. -- Outspan 18:32, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh, it's not my article, it's just something from last year a class apparently made mocking a teacher titled the "Doc Roc Theorem" or something along those lines. In any event, are you saying I could ask a mod for that deleted article and just keep it for myself without posting it?68.54.42.126 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.54.42.126 (talk) 19:29, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't really know, it's possible, especially if you know what the exact title was, although admins are AFAIK usually very busy and may not have time for something that's not meant to improve Misplaced Pages ;). -- Outspan 19:58, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Alright then. Thanks for explaining that! 68.54.42.126 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.54.42.126 (talk) 23:09, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Editing to a page not having an 'Edit' tab

How can we add the name of our business, Moses Carbon Graphite, for inclusion in this page on 'guitars', specifically to be included as a major producer of C/F composite necks?

http://en.wikipedia.org/Guitar

Steve Mosher President Moses Carbon Graphite —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.215.183.238 (talk) 18:11, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Please see Misplaced Pages is not an advertising space and conflict of interest before you edit any article. Thanks. KTC 18:20, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Cities on Misplaced Pages

This is more of a curiosity: does Misplaced Pages aim to cover EVERY SINGLE town / city / municipality in the world and to have an article for each and every single one of them? -- Outspan 18:27, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

No. Only notable towns should be included, but it is difficult to remove non-notable towns. For example, there is absolutely nothing notable about Mount Pleasant, South Carolina, but there is an article about it - complete with history. -- Kainaw 19:28, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

At least it has 60,000 people in it... it's very common to find much much smaller cities like Pancalieri, Pavarolo, Quagliuzzo, Claviere etc., and I also found many others with ~500 inhabitants that state no notability at all... is there a notability guideline for cities? I couldn't find it... thanks -- Outspan 20:08, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

As far as I know, there has not been any adopted notability guideline for cities/towns. It is my opinion that there should be. However, it would certainly result is the deletion of numerous articles. Then, it would carry over to the notability of roads, parks, buildings... So, I can understand why there has been no push for notability yet. -- Kainaw 20:12, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

According to Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Common outcomes, there is a consensus that "every city and village is notable, regardless of size." You msut still have two reliable sources, of course. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arch dude (talk • contribs) 06:57, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Why wouldn't we want to create an article on every town and village in the world? Kainaw's response is personal opinion (as is mine). I think we should have an article on every single one of them, so long as they're sourced. Corvus cornix 17:20, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

pronouncing non english words

It would be great to set as a standard any time that a word is used, a pronunciation next to it in order to help the reader. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.121.130.84 (talk) 18:33, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Why (hwī) would (wood) we (wee) want (wŏnt) that (thāt) ? -- Kainaw (kānô) 19:32, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

*pokes Kainaw* We do offer pronunciations for the subjects of many articles - see, for example, Mahatma Ghandi, which offers the pronunciation of Ghandi's name in the IPA. For more information, you may want to check Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style (pronunciation). Hersfold 20:39, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, but the OP said "any time that a word is used" - not "any time that a new, possibly difficult to pronounce word, or the subject of an article is used". -- kainaw™ 20:45, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Good point. Ok, poke revoked, you're forgiven. :-D Hersfold 00:07, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

How to create a wiki page with Tabs

Hi , How do I create a wiki page with tabs. e.g. the tabs on all pages like project, decsription, history etc. . Thanks Obelixwiki 18:52, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

This is for questions about using wikipedia, but I have a wiki on Editthis.info you just select a name and press create. Cheers,Je t Lover (Report a mistake) 18:53, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure what you're asking, but you might be looking for Help:Starting a new page. If not, please come back and let us know. Hersfold 20:35, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Do you mean like the tabs on Misplaced Pages:Tutorial (Editing)? --Teratornis 02:19, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Searching

Dear Wikis , how can I find the origin of the phrase "out of true" without ending up on the page for a , for chrissake , Nightingales album ? I'm thinking it's term from carpentry , levels , that sort of thing. Thanks . —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.53.67.101 (talk) 20:27, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Please add a new header when asking another question. Thanks.

You could try looking at the article for "true" on Wiktionary, the Woodworking glossary here, or asking at the Reference Desk. Thanks. Hersfold 20:35, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikilink in Spanish language article

Could someone please take a look at the recent edits on the Spanish language article. I reverted an edit because it added a red wikilink to an article that had been deleted earlier as a transwiki. My revert edit has, itself now been reverted so that the red link is back. Before I get into an edit war (which I really want to avoid), I would appreciate some comments on what the appropriate action should be. I have not started a discussion with the person who made these edits because both their user and talk pages do not exist. Thanks. Truthanado 20:57, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Red links exist in many articles. Because the links are usually about something people would like to know, the red link shows that it doesn't yet exist and that it should be created. If the red link is removed, the article it linked to might never be created and could cause confusion to people who don't know what it is. ::Manors:: 23:10, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Battle of Los Angeles

The Battle of Los Angeles refers to an unidentified flying object event which took place from late February 24 to early February 25, 1942 in which eyewitness reports of an unknown object or objects over Los Angeles, California triggered a massive anti-aircraft artillery barrage.

My Dad was an eye witness to this event and would like to add some details from his own observations to the article Battle of Los Angeles. Would this conform to the edit guidelines? 208.176.157.168 21:02, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm afraid not, we do not accept original research. Material must be verifiable and referenced to reliable sources without further analysis. KTC 21:23, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Absolutely not (but thank you for asking first). See our policy against original research, which includes eyewitness and other unpublished accounts. (Sorry, but we have no way of distinguishing between what is true and what is made up - or simply mistaken - unless we restrict the content of Misplaced Pages to information from reliable sources.) -- John Broughton (♫♫) 21:24, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

This

can someone fix the redirect? it was redirected instead of moved.

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Shushi_Pogroms&action=history

thank you --Hu1lee 21:06, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

What would like moved, and to where? i 21:14, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, please clarify. Shushi Pogroms now is a redirect to Shushi Massacres, which looks correct to me. The older version of Shusi Pogroms seemed to be a shorter, less-developed version of the Shushi Massacres article. If there was any content or text in the Shusi Pogroms article that is NOT in the Shushi Massacres article, that content should be moved, by hand (cut-and-paste), with attribution (put "Adding content from the Shushi Pogroms article, now a redirect, that isn't in this article" in the edit summary box). -- John Broughton (♫♫) 21:21, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Andranikpasha made a cut-and-paste move from this version of "Shushi Pogroms" to this version of Shushi Massacres, and then redirected Shushi Pogroms to Shushi Massacres. This should not have been done. You can request help at Misplaced Pages:Cut and paste move repair holding pen. By the way, "Shushi Pogroms" has a single (selfpublished) Google hit outside Misplaced Pages, and "Shushi Massacres" only has 4 (at least 3 of them selfpublished), so none of the names look good. Is this known in English with another name? PrimeHunter 22:08, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

yes it is also spelled shushi, shousha, sushi and has many other variations, in french, Armenian, and Azeri mostly popular in Armenian or Azeri script. --Hu1lee 22:47, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Losing login

I just logged in and came to this page to post a question. It already says I'm not logged in althopuight the previous log in page said I was. I'm new to "trying" to be a contributor. After I log in and attempt to navigate the site to contribute I get a message that says I'm not logged in. After re-logging in and receiving a message that again I'm logged in, again it tells me I'm not logged in when I navigate and another page. This is becoming redundant and I never get to the page allowing me to contribute. Seems simplier to just be announymous. John —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.142.130.45 (talk) 21:25, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

This is a common problem with satellite internet. Using the secure site will solve your problems, although it's a little slower.--Werdan7 22:03, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Use of Image in article A. Baldwin Wood

This document has a photo of A. Baldwin Wood. Is there any problem with using the photo in the article? Raasgat 21:35, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes the copyright appears to be held by the Sewerage and Water Board of New Orleans who are not a federal agency so the image is unlikely to be PD or under a free licsense.Geni 21:41, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't remember my Username and I would like to recover it - can it be sent to my email?

I don't remember my Username and I would like to recover it - can it be sent to my email? I don't see any alternative except to guess my username until I get a new password sent to my email address - but that would accidentally reset other peoples passwords...

Is there a web form for entering my email addresses so that my username can be sent to me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.41.46.178 (talk) 22:17, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Did you edit articles with the old username, and can you remember which articles. if so you could check the article history and try and find your username. Just a suggestion Woodym555 22:30, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Good thought - thanks but I made s few edits without logging in - today I corrected a typo also without logging in. Seems like "every website" lets registered users recover an account by supplying their email address so that users won't create multiple accounts unnecessarily. I figured there must be a[REDACTED] webform for doing it. Maybe this is a future feature? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.41.46.178 (talk) 22:59, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Why not pick a new Username? Since you can't remember the old one, it must not have been memorable, so go for a new one that means something to you. Then all you'll have to worry about in the future is your password (which WP does have a process for emailing that to you).
Jim Dunning | talk 00:24, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Since you've made several posts with you're IP to this article the name may be located here If you made a userpage you're name's blue if you didn't it'll be red. You may not have posted with you're account, but odds are it'll be here. Probably that one just under you're last three edits. Yamakiri 20:41, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Help with adding a photo to an article.

I enjoy photographing buildings and I would like to add some of my photographs to articles that don't have photos.

My question is, what information do I put in the "file destination" block that appears on the upload images form?

Also, once I upload the photo, how does it get into the article?

Thanks in advance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GTV6 (talk • contribs) 23:16, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Destination file name is what you want the image to be called. After uploading the image, you put

] On the page that needs an image.

Sorry if it looked confusing.--$UIT 23:20, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

You may also want to check Uploading images and Using images out for some additional information.
Jim Dunning | talk 23:56, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I uploaded the photo. Here is a link to the uploaded photo page. http://en.wikipedia.org/Image:Luhr_i.JPG

My question is, how do I get the photo into the article? I read your response to my question and I read the Uploading Photo Page, but afraid I still don’t understand how to do it. Would you please provide step-by-step instructions? Forgive my ignorance, but I am totally new at posting on the Internet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GTV6 (talk • contribs) 00:02, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

See Help:Contents/Images and media for more information on inserting images into articles, specifically Misplaced Pages:Picture tutorial and Misplaced Pages:Extended image syntax. --Silver Edge 00:12, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

No problem -- we've all been there (and will be again). Go to the article and click on the edit this page link. Find the location in the text where you want the picture and enter:

]

The "right" indicates alignment on the page, so you can do left if you wish. The description is the caption. Hope this helps. (I noticed you need to add copyright info to the image)
Jim Dunning | talk 00:15, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

When I "upload" an image, how do I find its location after its uploaded? (The only reason I know its location right now is because I book-marked the webpage.)

How do I know what the image name is? You said it's "Luhr i.JPG". How did you know that? Is the image name coming from my harddrive or from the location on the Misplaced Pages server?

In response to your suggestion, I want to fix the copywrite issue before I try to add the photo to the article. So, where do I add the copywrite info? I read the Misplaced Pages copywrite info page, but I don't understand how to edit (or find) and already-uploaded image.

Thank you for your help.

Image Location: When you upload an image you choose its name (when you complete the "image destination" information). I knew your image's name because you provided a link to where it had been stored in Misplaced Pages; that link included the image name, "Luhr i.JPG". I'm assuming that's the name of the image as it exists on your hard drive since Misplaced Pages defaults to that (although you can change it when you complete the destination info during the upload process; for example, you could have called it "luhrs_towers.jpg").

Placing the Image in the Article: The image name (in this case, "Luhr i.JPG") is used to display it in the article. Just put this name as part of the image tag ("Image:"), like this: ]. Misplaced Pages knows where the images are stored (so you don't need the complete url, "http://en.wikipedia.org/"). Look at some examples of other pictures in any article you want. Here's one of mine: look at Big Moose Lake and click on any of the images to go to their image pages, such as this one, Image:Big_Moose_Lake_NY_USA.JPG. For help with copyright info, look at what I put in the Summary and Licensing sections (click on the edit links for those sections and feel free to copy/paste/modify the wiki-markup for your own pictures, assuming you own the copyrights). Here's the markup for my Big Moose pic --

== Summary ==

{{Information

|Description=Big Moose Lake NY USA

|Source=own work

|Date=August 17, 2004

|Author=James H Dunning

|Permission=Own work, attribution required

}}

== Licensing ==

I hope this helps. Good luck.
Jim Dunning | talk 03:48, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much for sharing that infomation.

I think now I have the image properly uploaded and copyrighted. Here's the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/Luhrs_Tower.

I tried to upload another image (http://en.wikipedia.org/US_Bank_Center_Phoenix) and it's not displaying. Any idea what I did wrong?GTV6 23:47, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

I repeated the suggested steps and the second link seems to be working now. Thanks again for the instructions.GTV6 23:54, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

How do I respond to an answer on this page?

I asked a question (above), someone answered, and now I want to respond to the answer. How do I do that without creating a new topic?

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GTV6 (talk • contribs) 23:54, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Go to Special:Preferences (while signed in), click on the "editing" tab, and click the first box, the one for "Enable section editing via links" to edit a specific section. Then respond by editing in that section.--Chaser - T 23:57, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Find the link to the right of the topic you want to add a response to and click on it. Then just add your response under the existing text in the Edit window. You should put a colon (:) at the beginning of it to indent your contribution. It's just like editing any article in WP, so feel free to review How to edit a page for more info. Have fun!
Jim Dunning | talk 00:06, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

September 4

To know better about using Misplaced Pages.

I am new to Yahoo! 360. How do I pull a content from Misplaced Pages onto my FEED box? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sal salaz (talk • contribs) 01:50, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Your question is a real stumper. Are you talking about an Xbox 360? --Teratornis 02:15, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Could you specify your definition of a FEED box too? ::Manors:: 02:29, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

No, Yahoo! 360 is a new Yahoo website tool, I think. Sebi 07:34, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Qingming Festival painting by Qiu Ying

I was searching for an image of Qiu Ying's Qingming Festival painting, and found none. Is there one on the Internet? I bought a copy of the painting. If legal, I would like to upload a segment of the painting for teaching purposes. The book contains no copyright statement, and I am not familiar with China's copyright law. Is it legal to upload a portion of the painting?129.186.33.19 02:03, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

If you're talking about this Qiu Ying, then the painting should be in the public domain, as he died several centuries ago. In general, a published work enters the public domain when the last surviving author has been dead for at least 70 years - as far as I am aware, this includes China. You are free to scan and upload the image to Misplaced Pages (or the Commons). When uploading, make sure that you either type the code {{PD-art}} in your summary or select the option that reads " - Photo of a two-dimensional work whose author died more than 100 years ago" in the Licensing section. Thanks for your contribution! Hersfold 04:18, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Moving an Article

The article "Midwest Council" should be renamed (moved) to be "Midwestern Council" to reflect the correct spelling of the organization's name. The "help" page regarding "moving" an article states that if the "move" tab is not presented when editing an article, then I am not allowed to move it, and I should request an editor to make the move. Where and how does one make such a request?

Thank You, Martinwj53 02:51, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

You need to be registered for an amount of time to move articles. I have performed the action for you. ::Manors:: 02:55, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

To answer your question of requesting moves, that would be at Misplaced Pages:Requested moves, where administrators can help with simple and more tricky page moves. Leebo /C 03:00, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Go to end

Is there a way to add a clickable link at the top of a page that takes you to the end of the page? I suppose that I could just add a section at the end and link to ], but is there a better way? —Moondyne 02:52, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

As far as I'm aware, there isn't. Mainly because it wouldn't be of great use and there wouldn't be a need for it in an article. ::Manors:: 02:57, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

You could hit the "End" key to drop to the bottom of the page rather than physically adding a link to do it. Leebo /C 02:58, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

You could also use the achor tags, like putting a line at the very bottom: <span id="End"/>, and then at the top put something like ]. --Ybbor 03:02, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:New contributors' help page already incorporates links that takes you to the bottom of the page. Misplaced Pages:Help desk#footer would take you to the bottom of this page. --Silver Edge 03:55, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Actually, there is already a link at the top of this page that takes you to the bottom of this page. --Silver Edge 04:04, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

The question was not specific to this page, it was any page. Leebo /C 04:45, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, Silver Edge answered my question. #footer takes you to the end of the current page without the need for a specific target. —Moondyne 05:17, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

error message...

Warning: mysql_connect() : Lost connection to MySQL server at 'reading initial communication packet', system error: 111 in /home/leon/public_html/source/Wikicharts/web/index.php on line 36 Couldn't connect to mysql: Lost connection to MySQL server at 'reading initial communication packet', system error: 111 Appears when clicking the link: "WikiCharts: 100 most viewed articles (09/2007)" In the article: Special:Statistics Why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.232.211.130 (talk) 03:29, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

This is a temporary error with the MYSQl database where the

information is stored on the server. There is nothing wrong with your computer. These things happen for a number of reasons, too many people viewing it, it installed wrong and so on. Technical Wikimedia staff will fix it soon, so you will need to sit tight until it is solved, which will most likely be soon. ::Manors:: 03:43, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. 71.232.211.130 04:15, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Film page style

I am attempting to create a page for an independent film (and the page does not yet exist). I have noticed that the film pages tend to have a kind of template, or at least that they are all formatted very similarly. Is there a specific way to create a page for a film? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mayo943 (talk • contribs) 04:09, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

You're looking for {{Infobox Film}}. Click that link for more information on how to use the box. Make sure that you don't have a conflict of interest in making this article and that you have enough verifiable, reliable sources to back up the information and establish the film's notability. Hersfold 04:20, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

How do I add a page I'm already a user??

How do I add a page I'm already a user?? and How can I contact Misplaced Pages??

thank you, Cameron King —Preceding unsigned comment added by Huntington Beach (talk • contribs) 04:47, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Before creating an article, please search Misplaced Pages first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Misplaced Pages:Your first article and Misplaced Pages:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Misplaced Pages:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation.--Max Talk (+) 04:57, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Contacting "Misplaced Pages" is a bit vague, since Misplaced Pages is a website. To contact an individual editor, leave a message on their talk page. To contact the Wikimedia Foundation, Misplaced Pages's parent organisation, you can check the contact page on their website, located here. Confusing Manifestation 05:47, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Purchase

Dear sir,

I want to know the Job Duty of Purchase Officer and also want to know the nature of work.

Regards,

Jignesh Panchal (Purchase Executive) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.254.31.230 (talk) 05:20, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Erm, we're an volunteer encyclopedia. KTC 05:25, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't understand what your asking, but the only job opening the Wikimedia Foundation has is for the COO ::Manors:: 16:37, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

I want to get my own page.

Hi, I'm a music artist, and i want to know if its possible for me to make my own page for my fans. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Djvu07 (talk • contribs) 05:52, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm afraid definitely not. Within Misplaced Pages, article inclusion is based on criterion on encyclopedia suitability, such as notability, and verifiability. Wikipedis is not a place for advertising, or blog, webspace provider, social networking, or memorial site. Please also see our article on conflict of interests if you're considering editing Misplaced Pages, which you are of course most welcome in doing. KTC 06:03, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Personally, I think "definitely not" may be a little strong, depending on what specifically Djvu07 means. :) If as a musician, Djvu07, you currently meet the guidelines set out at Notability (music), an article may be appropriate for you. Note that many common sources of information, such as myspace, are not acceptable for Misplaced Pages's verifiability. Also, as KTC indicates, "conflict of interest" needs to be carefully considered, particularly in maintaining neutrality and avoiding original research. Even if you know it to be true, if it's not published in a reliable source, you can't use it. See especially "Misplaced Pages:Autobiography". And, of course, as KTC notes, Misplaced Pages is not a place for advertising. Information must be encyclopedic, not promotional. If you believe you meet notability guidelines and can avoid COI issues, you may create an article; it is strongly discouraged, but not forbidden. Since COI edits are strongly discouraged, however, you might want to consider instead adding your request to "requested articles" so that an uninvolved editor might create it. This will reduce the risk that your hard work will be contested and deleted. Good luck. --Moonriddengirl 13:58, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

You are welcome to put your information for your fans on your user page however. ::Manors:: 16:31, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

There are several other wikis that allow you to create articles about your own music, without Misplaced Pages's requirements for notability and so on. See for example wikiindex:Category:Music. --Teratornis 16:46, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Why was the page Inside Sport Forum deleted?

I'm just wondering why the page Inside Sport Forum was deleted. It just doesn't make sense to me. Could you please explain why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scottrulz89 (talk • contribs) 07:00, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

"06:47, 4 September 2007 Jimfbleak (Talk | contribs) deleted "Inside Sport Forum" ‎ (content was: '{{db-spam}}Category:Web{{notability}}Is an Australian sports forum website started in Victoria in June 2007. It's based mainly on Australian Rul...')", next time see wikipedia:why was my page deleted.--Kerotan Have a nice day :) 07:20, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) Deletion log. From what you see on Inside Sport Forum now, "please see Misplaced Pages:Why was my page deleted?". KTC 07:21, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Inflection

listing of all the inflected forms of a word —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.109.156.109 (talk) 07:42, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Do you have a question about Misplaced Pages? -- Kesh 12:59, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

I think he's suggesting we add inflected forms of a word, but that's a job for Wiktionary. Rigadoun (talk) 17:01, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

How do you spell the religoun brevlenes

how do you spell the religoun brevlenes no tv no radio tht type 220.237.148.39 10:42, 4 September 2007 (UTC)please help10:42, 4 September 2007 (UTC)220.237.148.39

Have you tried the Humanities section of Misplaced Pages's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Misplaced Pages. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. There may be better chance of an answer if you can give more information. PrimeHunter 12:25, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

mga batas sa pilipinas

ano ang ibat ibang batas sa pilipinas? batas sa karapatan ng babae sa maga hayop sa kalikasan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.126.76.83 (talk) 10:44, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

how to change an article in a desired language —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.243.64.85 (talk) 10:53, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Single newlines within a paragraph?

Jpritikin asked an interesting question:

I know that paragraphs are separated by 2 newlines. Is it proper or improper to use single newlines within a paragraph? It doesn't seem to make a difference when rending the page as HTML. However, which convention does the "diff" view prefer?

I have made example of this in my sandpit. I couldn't find anything in the Manual of Style, what is the answer? Cheers, --Commander Keane 11:10, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

It doesn't matter in terms of rendering the text. But I wouldn't recommend newlines in a block of paragraph text except for good reason, such as possibly while using a cite template for reference. Newlines otherwise would probably confuse people and does not aid readability. KTC 11:34, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Location Distances on City/Town articles

Hey everybody, i just want to ask when you click on a town or city it says in the right box location then distance. Is this distance by road, or the shortest as in by plane or how the crow flies. You get me?Roadrunnerz45 11:24, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't see "distance" as a parameter in the city/town infobox, can you show me an example? I see "coordinates" below location. Leebo /C 11:32, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

From your user page I guess you are interested in Australia. {{Infobox Australian Place}} has optional parameters to specify distances. The distance is not computed automatically but must be written by the editor using the template. Template talk:Infobox Australian Place#distances says: "We've traditionally used road distances, although air distances can be noted in the article, or in cases of islands where there clearly is no road distance." It's not certain all editors use this convention, and distances can be wrong. PrimeHunter 12:58, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Hey thanks for the quick reply my fellow wikipedian. Now that you told me, it looks like only Australian cities have pop in the info box, so whenever the page was set up it had it. I guess because of how vast the country is. Im going to stick with road distances, its just common sense i think. I mean if your flying, i dont think you worry to much about the distance, you care about the time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Roadrunnerz45 (talk • contribs) 13:13, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

iller clothing company not mentioned

when searching for iller i found that the explanation does not include the organization i represent. iller clothing company is an independent hip hop collective and clothing company based in Seattle WA and Glasgow UK. information on the company can be found at www.illerclothing.com. we have both us and uk copyright and trademarks both in place and pending.

it would be great to see either a mention in your iller article, or better still a linked article about the clothing company / team / history.

thanks for your time and interest.

sincerely,

iller uk —Preceding unsigned comment added by 163.244.62.123 (talk) 12:41, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

wikipedia isn't for advertisment, so unless there is something in there which would benefit any current article, or is notable enough for a new article, I would advise against it. see wp:not.--Kerotan Have a nice day :) 12:48, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Definition of "Tranche"

HOw would I suggest an additional meaning of the word, Tranche, as it relates to energy supply portfolio? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.99.185.50 (talk) 13:10, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

make a discussion about it on the tranche talk page.--Kerotan Have a nice day :) 13:13, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Problem with[REDACTED] search: Glasgow

Hi, Try to search "Glasgow" or go to the page "http://en.wikipedia.org/Glasgow". The page is getting redirected to another page quickly and nothing can be displayed

-- Subhendu —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.197.96.51 (talk) 13:16, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

I did try your link and it worked perfectly fine but because you say you are having a problem try refreshing or keep searching also you may just want to click your link to see if it works. --72.79.101.50 13:23, 4 September 2007 (UTC) I am not logged it but if I was which I am...

Definition of "Tranche"

As realted to energy supply portfolio, "tranche" is a supply commitment for a slice, fraction, or percentage of total requirements, often a third or a fourth of total requirements, for a future period, such as one or two years. Buying future requirments in tranchesaavoids the usual timing risk in a volatile price market associated with buying all requirements at the same time.

This is for editing[REDACTED] questions only but even if it was a place to post questions you do not have a question. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.79.101.50 (talk) 13:20, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

I believe this has to do with a question a few sections above. They were supposed to post this to the Tranche talk page. -- Kesh 15:20, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Malayalam version of wikipedia

How to go into the Malayalam Version of Misplaced Pages —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.164.159.7 (talk) 13:16, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

.--Kerotan Have a nice day :)

Who are the best article writers on Misplaced Pages?

Those who write lots of FAs and GAs (exceptionally prolific DYK writing is also counted)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.156.11.5 (talk) 13:27, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

One of the best writers on Misplaced Pages is User:Clio the Muse. Unfortunately, she rarely edits articles. -- kainaw™ 13:43, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

It would also be interesting to know which writers on Misplaced Pages think they are the best. --Teratornis 16:49, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Not necessarily the best, but the most prolific can be found at:

Featured articles -- Misplaced Pages:List of Wikipedians by featured article nominations ~~(I can see that some of the data here is slightly out of date, but it'll give you a guide)~~ Seems OK after rechecking.
Featured lists -- Misplaced Pages:List of Wikipedians by featured list nominations
DYK -- User:Anonymous Dissident/List of Wikipedians by number of DYKs

I don't know that there are any equivalent lists for GA's. —Moondyne 02:39, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

earth tones

What colors are considered earth tones? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.123.69.168 (talk) 13:36, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

See Earth tone. -- kainaw™ 13:44, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

How do I delete an blank article that I created by accident?

I'm terribly sorry! I was creating an article on British Jazz Pianist Matthew Bourne under the title of "Matthew Bourne (musician)" when I accidently (don't ask me how) created an article called "Editing Matthew Bourne (musician)". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattroberts66 (talk • contribs) 13:47, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Relax! You've created the proper article, so I've signed the wrong one up for deletion. x42bn6 Talk Mess 13:56, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

In the event that it should happen again, you can request deletion yourself by placing {{db-author}} at the top of the page. :) --Moonriddengirl 14:01, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

up to date

For any article why you did not put the date in the first line to make sure that the article content is up to such date. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.249.76.34 (talk) 14:08, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

The last edit date is at the bottom of the page. Articles on topics that change often are usually updated often. Click the "history" tab on any article and you can see how often it is updated. -- kainaw™ 14:11, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Page deleted without Consultation

Dignitas Ltd is an IT Consultancy based out of the UK, working across Europe.

There are however several other companies named either the same or very similar, such as Team Dignitas the British eSports Team and Dignitas the euthanasia group.

I understand and agree with the no commercialisation or advertising on Misplaced Pages, however it should be a forum to provide clarity where confusion may arise. Confusion is arising, people search Google, Misplaced Pages and other such tools for Dignitas Ltd are finding the examples above and others, but cant find what they are really looking for.

I attempted to put this right by adding a brief article about Dignitas Ltd and referencing it from the disambiguation page. The article avoided marketing speak, talking primarily about history and market sector.

Within 24 hours my edit of the disambiguation page has been reversed by Eve Hall and the page created for Dignitas Ltd seems to have been deleted.

I appreciate you have your rules, but it would be useful if there was some form of communication to explain the reasons for reversing my additions/changes out, I can find none. There is nothing in the deletion log.

I am sure I read somewhere that you have a policy of improvement as opposed to removal without consultation, but that does not appear to have been the case here.

Can someone advise what the situation is please so at the very least I can understand where I went wrong.

Craiggolby 16:07, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

The link on the disambiguation page was deleted because it pointed to an article that did not exist (red-linked as the person deleting it stated). As for the reason the article was deleted, go here and you can see the deletion notice. It states that the subject made no claim for notability. I suggest finding third-party sources of notability, recreating the article with them, and then adding a link on the disambiguation page. Of course, avoid conflict of interest. It is often the case that a company will insist that they need an article on them, but then get upset when anything negative is added to the article. -- kainaw™ 16:14, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Also see: Why was my article deleted? and: Misplaced Pages:Business' FAQ. Creating new articles on Misplaced Pages and getting them to "stick" can be surprisingly difficult for contributors new to Misplaced Pages, because Misplaced Pages has incredibly complex policies, guidelines, and procedures. It would be nice if the administrators who delete articles could take the time to provide a detailed explanation to each author, but the volume of deleted articles precludes this. I happen to believe that Misplaced Pages's user interface has an ergonomic shortcoming in this regard: Misplaced Pages makes it too easy for new users to create new articles, without first ensuring they understand the virtual minefield they are venturing into. However, Misplaced Pages is almost entirely a volunteer project, so nothing gets fixed unless someone volunteers to do the work necessary to fix it (which includes not only fixing things, but selling the ideas to everyone else who has an interest). Would you like to help us redesign the process whereby new users create new articles, to help eliminate the pitfall that just claimed you as its latest victim? Unfortunately, the problem is hard, and a person would have to spend months learning enough about Misplaced Pages to be able to address the problem. --Teratornis 17:27, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Adding an article relating to my company

I would like to submit an article on behalf of my company as an entry of notability (not an advert) so that we have entries in line with some of our peers. I can provide references to numerous articles and coverage by analysts and journalists.

I believe the place to do this is using the 'Articles For Creation' wizard and I have run through this (will test in Sandbox first). It allows me to do this either as a registered or unregistered user.

Questions. Is the 'Articles for creration wizard' the correct route in for this entry to be submitted ?

Does it matter whether I do so as a registered or unreigistered user, which is preferred ?

In my submission do I submit both the independant articles reference material AND the proposed entry information on my compaany, or do I just submit the independant material in order to meet Misplaced Pages submission criteria and THEN (if successful) submit the company information entry.

217.196.251.188 16:18, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Assuming this is about Citigate Dewe Rogerson, there are already links to that page. The page does not exist. Starting it with a brief note about what the company does and references would be nice. Others should see it and expand it as necessary. I would avoid editing it too much yourself to avoid conflict of interest. -- kainaw™ 16:26, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Ensure the article is kept neutral. Don't present the company from your point of view. Describe the company as if you know about it but aren't connected to it. ::Manors:: 16:40, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi - no it is not about Citigate Dewe Rogerson but about Huntsworth plc (Citigate Dewe Rogerson area wholly owned subsidiary of Huntsworth. My objective is to get an entry for Hunstworth plc similar to that of our peers (see Chime Communications as an example).

Ill follow your tips (thanks) and submit article and various reference sources via the artciles for creation wizard. 217.196.251.188 16:44, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

I am having problems adding content.

I tried adding content to a topic and it was marked to be deleted. The reason was not very clear. I am trying to write it in a manner where it will be accepted, but I don't know how to word the information correctly I guess. Is there a place on this site where I can get help writing the post correctly?

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vdavid23 (talk • contribs) 17:57, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

The problem is that the article Cripple Sites makes very little sense. For example, http://www.microsoft.com does not allow customers to change the website. Does that make it a cripple site? If a site is completely separated from the Internet, it is not a site. It is a set of web pages on a LAN or intranet (or whatever buzzword you want to use). Where's an example of a notable reference using the term "cripple site"? -- kainaw™ 18:04, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. Your response makes more sense. Can you help me write it correctly. Here is an example of a cripple site. http://www.ghr.mybp.com the type of sites I am talking about are sold to people who have no knowledge of the internet. They are told they can have an internet site for customers to come too, but you can not make any changes to the site to get it listed on any of the search engines or even spidered. They will not let you change the index file and even add meta tags. This is something new that has recently beeen happening and that is where the term "Cripple Sites" came from. From people who host websites and design them for a living.

I really would appreciate some help with this. Again, this has beeen a recent term used by people who design and host websites for a living.

New to Misplaced Pages

How do I delete a page? I meant to create an article tab but have created a page tab. What do I do? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Interactive Intelligence (talk • contribs) 18:04, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

It looks like you created the page User:Interactive Intelligence, and I have deleted it because it was advertising and eligible for speedy deletion under criterion G11. Please do not recreate the page as an article, as it would be eligible for the same deletion. I would advise you to review our neutral point of view policy before considering writing about your company. Leebo /C 18:08, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

You cannot delete pages yourself; an admin must do it. Please see the deletion policy page.--Max Talk (+) 18:10, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes. Only Misplaced Pages Administrators (such as Leebo) can delete pages. I would also suggest that you don't write an article about your company. If you want to learn more, please read Misplaced Pages:Conflict of interest. Cheers, Arky 18:31, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Acceptable articles

I created the page PhysicsCorp. I know that it was deleted, but I do not know why. I provided a neutral article, with nothing that relates to advertising (by the way, I am not in any way related to anything related to PhysicsCorp). So, please, tell me, what can I do, while still creating the article, to stop my page from being deleted?--Physicscience 18:40, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Your article, PhysicsCorp, was deleted under criterion for speedy deletion A7. This means that the article did not assert that PhysicsCorp met Misplaced Pages's notability guidelines for companies. It didn't have anything to do with it sounding like advertising. Review those guidelines and let us know if the company meets them. Leebo /C 18:44, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

The article got recreated. It's now listed at AfD as a hoax. There are no reliable sources for the existence of this supposed "company". Corvus cornix 16:23, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Uploading pictures

I have taken quite a few pictures in Poland while I was there in July. I have tried to upload some of the pictures, but they are being deleted. In addition, I have pictures of Bobowa and of the synagogue of Bobowa. (All these pictures have been taken by me and there are no copyright issues.) Thank you,

Simone Clay —Preceding unsigned comment added by Simone Clay (talk • contribs) 18:49, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Which license are you choosing when uploading them? ::Manors:: 18:50, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

bees stung

ive gotten stung by bees. how many stungs shuold i worry about befor going to the doctor —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.145.176.2 (talk) 19:30, 4 September 2007 (UTC) oh waite i asked this in the wrong place.sorry —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.145.176.2 (talk) 19:31, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

That's okay. But I must tell you that no one on Misplaced Pages is qualified to give you medical advice. Don't ask at one of the reference desks, call a doctor instead. Leebo /C 19:33, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Please see Misplaced Pages:Medical disclaimer. We can't help on that. Sorry. Pedro | Chat 19:33, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

You shouldn't have asked this in this section either, Misplaced Pages questions only. ::Manors:: 20:24, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

The Bee sting article looks interesting, though. --Teratornis 20:56, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Adding an Article

How do I add an article page? I don't want to add a user page and that is the only option I see when I log in. Please advise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Interactive Intelligence (talk • contribs) 20:42, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Since you are a registered user, you can create pages. Just type the name of the page you want to create in the Search box. Then, if the page does not exist, click the "create this page" link near the top of the search window. A blank editing window then appears. Type whatever information you want in the article, provide an Edit summary, and then click the "Save Page" button. Cheers, Arky 20:51, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Please note that if you are recreating the content that was deleted at User:Interactive Intelligence, it will be eligible for deletion as advertising. You didn't respond to my comment above at Misplaced Pages:Help desk#New to Misplaced Pages concerning that issue. Leebo /C 20:56, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

We made changes to the content to follow the guidelines that you had previously mentioned. I think it should be fine now. Still having difficulty adding an article - I don't want it to say User: Interactive Intelligence. I want it similar to the[REDACTED] page for example, Cisco. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Interactive Intelligence (talk • contribs) 15:25, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I understand that you want to have an article about your company, but given your username, this is a conflict of interest and it would be difficult for you to write it in a way that was not promotional. You can add articles by searching for the exact title you want, and then clicking on the red link near the top of the page if there is no page by that name. Alternatively, you could just create that red link anywhere, by placing double brackets around Interactive Intelligence and following the link. Again, I recommend that you let someone who is not employed by the company write the article. Leebo /C 15:36, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

need help finding information

im trying to find out as much information about the artist Dr.Alan M. Lubeski Aka:Alin Raven as i can he has alot of good work but can you create a page about him where information can acumliate? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.177.247.130 (talk) 20:47, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

This is the page for questions about using Misplaced Pages. For factual questions, please go to the reference desk. Cheers, Arky 20:52, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes one create a page about him, but you have to make sure before creating he met the policies at WP:BIO. You would also have to create a account before doing so. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (tαlk) 23:23, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Size of Misplaced Pages

What is the size of[REDACTED] encyclopdia(english) only? and what the size of all[REDACTED]

With thier branch (wikibook,wkikmedia,.......) and with the language (french,hebrew,.....)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.42.21.156 (talk) 20:50, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

For factual questions, and not questions that pertain to how to use Misplaced Pages (such as the question you just asked) see the reference desk. By the way, the English Misplaced Pages has around 1,985,000 articles. Cheers, Arky 20:56, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

See: Special:Statistics, and Misplaced Pages:Technical FAQ#How big is the database?. There are also some magic words that expand into the number of articles (6,943,836) and the number of registered users (48,598,534). --Teratornis 01:33, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Some information about the other language Wikipedias is at: List of Wikipedias and m:List of Wikipedias. --Teratornis 01:36, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Please help with my username password.

hello. I have an account with the name koneesha. i have forgotten the password and i didnt leave an email address to get. in. So could some one please give my my password plaese. If you dont belive me. i have a uswename koneesha on gamespot. konesha on n4g, and koneesha on google and many others.so could you please help me thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.192.161.38 (talk) 21:37, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

If you did not list an email with your account, I do not think there is anyway to get you your password. You may be telling the truth, but there is no way for us to verify and no mechanism to give you the password securely. Sorry. Looking at your contributions with that account, any articles you created were subsequently deleted. It would make sense to create a new account, since that one does not have existing contributions. Leebo /C 21:46, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Yep that is about all you can do. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (tαlk) 23:19, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

well could you delete it?

Misplaced Pages code changes

How can we find out if there were any code changes to Misplaced Pages today? Several of us started experiencing this problem today about three or four hours ago, I was wondering if it was the VP program or with the rollback code. thanks! Dreadstar † 22:29, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Special:Version tells you the MediaWiki version number and the installed extensions. However, that page has no history of the MediaWiki version, analogous to the history of an article. That is, I don't see anything on Special:Version to tell you when the installed version number last changed. I will look in the Editor's index to see if it has anything about tracking the MediaWiki version history on Misplaced Pages. --Teratornis 01:23, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm not finding a lot. There is a mw:MediaWiki roadmap. If what you seek is available, the index should list it under WP:EIW#Techni, but it doesn't seem to be there now. Hopefully another Help desk volunteer will know more. You might need to ask at the Village pump (technical). --Teratornis 01:30, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for checking Teratornis! I appreciate the info, and I'll post to the Village pump! Dreadstar † 01:32, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

mw:Important Release Notes might lead you to something useful. --Teratornis 13:50, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Find word from meaning?

how do i find a word when i know the meaning —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.241.138.50 (talk) 23:09, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages is not a dictionary. For future reference, please use WP:RD for general knowledge. What it sounds you are looking for is a thesaurus.

Perfect Proposal 23:30, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

You want a reverse dictionary. This question came up on the Help desk before. Try this search of the Help desk archive. --Teratornis 01:18, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

September 5

Starting my own Wiki.

I see all kinds of different types of specialized Wiki's all over the internet. How would I go about making my own Wiki for an individual topic? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mofuggin bob (talk • contribs) 00:14, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikipeda uses MediaWiki so all you have to do is to download MediaWiki software and install it on your server. Another way which is easier would be to create your own Wiki on Editthis.info. --Hdt83 00:38, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

See: b:Wiki Science/How to start a wiki. But first check WikiIndex to see if a public wiki already exists for your topic of interest. --Teratornis 01:16, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Archiving

Hi, is there any reason why archives should be chronological only, as some people maintain? I'd prefer to archive by topic and/or type. Regards, Guido den Broeder 00:38, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Nope. Have a look at Help:Archiving a talk page, some people do do just that. KTC 00:42, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm Wondering....

How do I propose a WikiProject? 75.90.79.209 00:50, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Council/Proposals looks to be a good starting point. :) --Moonriddengirl 00:54, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Slightly Mispelled Article Title

I'm trying to figure out how to approach fixing the title of this article: Ruben Ortiz Torres The corrrect spelling of the Artist's name is Rubén Ortiz Torres and is dead-linked elsewhere in Misplaced Pages with the correct spelling. what is the best way to handle this? I was thinking maybe I should start a new page with the correct spelling and have the new entry linked from the old one at the omission of the accent is a minor mistake and a common one. Is there a way to edit the title only? Any opinions on the best way to handle this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.43.192.57 (talk) 01:08, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

The best way to handle it is probably to move the page. You do have to log in to do this. If you don't want to create an account, I'm sure that there are editors who would be happy to help. --Moonriddengirl 01:18, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

It's been done. --Orange Mike 12:58, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

WP: Lawsuits?

If there is not already a category for this, I believe it would be helpful to compile a public list of lawsuits against Misplaced Pages. The reason simply being: this will be a better encyclopedia if we have examples of how we have failed to observe copyrights or biographies of living persons, to name a couple of examples. Misplaced Pages is the way of the future. Let's all come together to ensure that we are doing everything possible to honor trademarks, copyrights, and non-libel articles.

BadMojoDE 01:18, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Lawsuits against Misplaced Pages are handled behind-the-scenes (due to the fact that they are lawsuits), and should not be aired on the encyclopedia itself. Further, this page is not for proposing new projects. -- Kesh 03:08, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Mc/Mac; etc.

Can someone provide confirmation that for auditing/counting purposes surnames starting with "Mc" should be default sorted as "Mac", and surnames starting with O' (say O'H, O'S, O'M or O'N) should be default sorted as, for example, Oh, Os, Om, On, etc., as this is my understanding.

I don't want all my meticulous default sorting reverted by the diligent, yet unenlightened on this point.

Then we should spread the word to the wider Wiki community via WP:FOOTBALL as per User:Dudesleeper.

Thanks.

Ontheveldt 01:43, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Why just the football project, and not WP:WPBIO? I would wait for consensus before changing articles en masse like you are currently doing. Neier 14:48, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Also, this question probably belongs on the village pump, and not the help desk. Neier 14:49, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

translate from Dutch to English

How do I translate a Netherlands page written in Dutch to English? 24.147.132.211 01:47, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

If you mean that you'd like a page translated and incorporated in the English Misplaced Pages, check out Misplaced Pages:Translation. :) --Moonriddengirl 01:51, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Aligning text right

I can't seem to find any info on how to align text right. It seems like it should be simple to find, but it's not. Anyone know how to do this? -- LGagnon 02:11, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Sure. It's a tricky formatting trick; nice question! Just type <div style="text-align: right;">Text to align right goes here.</div>. For example,

<div style="text-align: right;">Hello world!</div>

Becomes:

Hello world!

Hope this helps, and happy editing, Arky 02:24, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

benefits of larix decidua

what are the benefits of taking larix decidua? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.59.94.235 (talk) 04:14, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

We don't dispense medical advice and the article on European Larch has no information. I suggest google.--Chaser - T 05:07, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

West Siberian Laika

I would like to write a new page concerning West Siberian Laika.The page will be based on best in the world study concerning this breed - the book Hunting Laikas written by family Voilochnikov in Russia.Most important of all I would like to post two Pictures of real pure bred West Siberian Laika in this page. Please let me know how to do this? With Best Regards Madmadamim —Preceding unsigned comment added by Madmadamim (talk • contribs) 04:38, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

The West Siberian Laika article has existed since 2006 (see the article history). Also see List of dog breeds for the articles of that type which we have, and the articles we still need (the needed articles will appear as red links). If you have photos which can improve the West Siberian Laika article, see Help:Image for instructions on uploading them. The West Siberian Laika article currently has an {{Unreferenced}} tag, so if you have references you can WP:CITE in the article, that would be helpful. See WP:FOOT and WP:CITET for instructions on how to add references. Those instructions may be complicated for someone new to Misplaced Pages, so if you find any of this confusing, feel free to write whatever you have in rough form on Talk:West Siberian Laika (the article's Help:Talk page), and another more experienced editor can then work your content into the article. --Teratornis 13:40, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Also, you may wish to join WikiProject Dogs. Woof. --Teratornis 13:46, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Starting Essay Pages

I am almost finished writing an essay about Misplaced Pages (a wiki-essay) in Microsoft Word. I obviously wish to put it up here, but I am not sure how. I know to use the {{essay}} after it's up, but I'm not sure what to do before that. Any help would be appreciated. --Shark face 217 05:59, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Replied on user's talk page. Sebi 06:06, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Commons images in Misplaced Pages

Can one use a Commons image in wikipedia?--Donrub 06:37, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

yes, in just the exactly the same manner as images uploaded to wikipedia.--Kerotan Have a nice day :) 06:40, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Correcting information

Just noticed the date of birth for the Chemist "Anselme Payen" is wrongly stated as the date of his death acording to the encylopedia Britanica he was born on the 6th of January 1795, in Paris, France. not 1871 which you also have as his date of Birth and death they cannot both be correct or he would not have had time to achieve anything.

Dont know how to correct this just thought you would like to know.

Anthony Baker. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.133.247.146 (talk) 07:39, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your suggestion! When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Misplaced Pages is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the Edit this page link at the top. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). The Misplaced Pages community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. As far as this specific change is concerned, I would be glad to help out, but I'm not sure at which page his birth date is incorrectly given. At the Anselme Payen article, the date you provide for birth is the one listed. If it is still incorrectly listed at another article, please feel free to update the information yourself. :) --Moonriddengirl 11:18, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

On which page did you see the wrong birth year? Anselme Payen, List of mathematicians (P), Portal:History of science/Selected anniversaries/May, January 6 and May 12 all say 1795 and have not been edited today. PrimeHunter 13:25, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Page deletion

I don't understand. Misplaced Pages is supposed to be a 💕. I wanted to learn more about the history of my last name. I can't get any information anywhere else. I know 12 Moroniak's, and they're all family of mine in the US. I Can't Find Anymore (Unless they're in Poland) and I don't speak the language.

I simply wanted to open the door to anyone who could help me, and possibly others, gain more knowledge about the name. I thought Misplaced Pages was the perfect place to let that happen, then I found my page deleted.

I read the terms, and I thought I was clearly within them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moroniak (talk • contribs) 07:59, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry. I'm sure that's discouraging. Presuming that the information that you're discussing is now posted at User:Moroniak, I wonder if Wikietree would be of any service to you. Unfortunately, Misplaced Pages is not a tool for furthering research in that way, but for presenting previously written, verifiable facts. It strives to be an encyclopedia something along the lines of print encyclopedias, though more comprehensive. If the contents of your current user page do duplicate your absent article, I think that it might have been moved because it is not encyclopedic. Good luck tracing the history of your surname. --Moonriddengirl 11:18, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Path to Adminship

I am a moderately experienced user and contributor of Misplaced Pages, and I would just like to know if there's any program out there that can assist me in my goal of becoming an administrator someday. I am familiar with the RfA process, but am afraid to nominate myself due to my low edit count and lack of contributions on the talk namespace.

I thought there was some page where you could do something like a "test run" of the RfA to see what your chances would be. Does anybody know what I'm talking about? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Paradoxsociety (talk • contribs) 08:18, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I'd suggest Editor Review as a starting point. Also - please feel free to approach me on my talk page.Pedro | Chat 10:56, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Meaningless redirect

Thomas Cook TV is a redirect to Thomas Cook AG (former), but there is no mention of Thomas Cook TV in that article. I assume there is some connection, but for all I know there may not be. I know nothing about either company, but some elucidation would seem to be called for.--Shantavira| 10:40, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out. I added a mention to the "companies" list in the article. According to the corporate website, it's a British travel channel owned by Thomas Cook AG. There's plenty of room for expansion, but at least "Thomas Cook TV" searchers won't be scratching their heads in complete befuddlement. :) --Moonriddengirl 11:25, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Any scope for adding an essay with dissenting views on Misplaced Pages's entries under "Competitiveness?"

Dear Misplaced Pages,

Your article on "Competitiveness" cites various of the programs I helped to initiate (e.g., the Sri Lanka Competitiveness Program.) I have a dissenting view on competitiveness, different from Prof. Krugman's. If there is scope to upload articles that seek to deliver a more balanced, experiential approach to the subject at hand, then perhaps my essay could have value? I have copied my essay here below in it's entirety, for your consideration. If it can be appended or modified to be of use on Misplaced Pages, please advise. If it is indeed outside the scope of consideration on Wiki, that's okay too. Thanks. Davidbflood 10:13, 5 September 2007 (UTC) Essay at User:Davidbflood

Hi David, and thanks. I owuld sugest you look at WP:NOR - Misplaced Pages is not a place for original research. However we also strive to attain WP:NPOV - a neutral point of view. If there are articles that are unbalanced in their view point please feel free to fix that - but remember that you should cite reliable third party sources and not your own work when making contributions. please click on any text in blue to find the policies. I hope that helps. Pedro | Chat 10:54, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Pedro has answered this question, but I wanted to let you know that I have relocated your essay to User:Davidbflood, where it will remain accessible to you and to Misplaced Pages editors who read your note above but will not hamper the effectiveness of the help desk. I'll also suggest that you may wish to discuss your concerns at the talk page for the article in question. You can provide a redirect to User:Davidbflood if you wish to illustrate your points, but please don't reproduce the whole essay there. :) --Moonriddengirl 11:33, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Jimbo Wales e-mail?

What is Jimbo Wales e-mail? --Angry Early 12:48, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

He has contact information at his Misplaced Pages user page User:Jimbo Wales. Maybe we can help instead. What do you want? PrimeHunter 13:03, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I want to send him hate mail and sign him up for newsletters. --Angry Early 13:09, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Wait just a moment, we'll help you right away in that case. Leebo /C 13:13, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank You very much. Anything to piss off Jimbo. --Angry Early 13:24, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Don't worry, Leebo. He's taken care of. =P Cheers, Arky 15:01, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

At least he was upfront about it. :) Corvus cornix 16:29, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Haha, yeah; we appreciate honesty here at Misplaced Pages ;P Arky 16:48, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Talk page format

At Talk:2007 National Express coach crash an editor has some code in his/her sig that puts all subsequent discussion into italics. I haven't been able to figure out how to switch off the italic formatting. Could someone take a look please? Thanks.--Shantavira| 13:07, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Some one did it for you already. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (tαlk) 13:47, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Commotio (choir)

I would like to create a Misplaced Pages entry about the Oxford-based choir called Commotio (see www.commotio.org). I've read the criteria about whether an organisation merits an entry, but can't decide about Commotio. No books etc have been written about the choir, but a number of newspaper / magazine articles have been written, and several composers have written works for the choir. Could you give me some guidance about what else might be needed, please?

Thank you.

OxfordSinger 13:19, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I will reply on the users talk page. Looks okay from google as a potential article. Pedro | Chat 13:27, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

As a general rule, if you can find two substantive articles in independent larger-circulatin newspapers, then you are notable. Just find two such reference and include them. -Arch dude 05:43, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi

Am I on this page? Can you see my text? --Lareegaastereichen 13:54, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes. Anybody can edit Misplaced Pages. However, you should experiment like this in the sandbox. -- kainaw™ 14:14, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Infobox graphic

After uploading a graphic image to the Commons, I typed the filename into the Infobox of the Misplaced Pages target page:

{{Infobox musical artist

| Name            = Necdet Yaşar
| Img             = Yasar_on_tanbur_in_1972.jpg
| Img capt        = Necdet Yaşar performing at a private home (1972)
| Img size        =

...but the page does not display the image, only the filename.

Neyzenhasan 13:54, 5 September 2007 (UTC).

No such image (Image:Yasar on tanbur in 1972.jpg) exists. You'll have to first upload the image. utcursch | talk 14:10, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I guess I need specific instructions on how to upload to Misplaced Pages. I looked long and hard without finding any. Neyzenhasan 14:28, 5 September 2007 (UTC).

Could it be Image:Necdet Yasar in 1972.jpg you are looking for? PrimeHunter 14:31, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

If it isn't, just go to Misplaced Pages:Upload and follow all the instructions there. Cheers! Arky 14:32, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Oops. PrimeHunter was wise to sniff out the file. I'm embarrassed to say I garbled the filename. File displays OK now. Thanks. Neyzenhasan 14:50, 5 September 2007 (UTC).

Good. You can see which files you have uploaded by clicking "my contributions" (at the top of any page depending on your skin) and then "Logs", which should result in for you. PrimeHunter 15:18, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Definitions

How do I find a word definition. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.225.150.213 (talk) 15:08, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages is not a dictionary, so you could either use one of many online dictionary sites or the sister project Wiktionary. Leebo /C 15:12, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Google's define can also be helpful. PrimeHunter 15:20, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

How to leave Misplaced Pages and delete an account?

I may want to leave Misplaced Pages and delete my account and user page forever. How can I do it? I mean , how I can delete my user page and account?--behmod talk 15:39, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

User page deletion can be requested under WP:CSD#U1. User account however cannot be deleted due to GFDL reason, do however have a look at meta:Right to vanish. KTC 15:48, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Also, user talk pages are rarely deleted. Leebo /C 16:14, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Login Problem - HELP!

I have a problem. I had not done any editing on Misplaced Pages for a while. But, when I tried to strart up again, around May, I could not get Misplaced Pages to open (come up) if I was logged in.

If I deleted my cookie and re-booted, I could go to Misplaced Pages fine, surf around and make edits on some articles. But, if I logged in, "nope", the progress bar just sits there. It just sits there, says: "Login Successful," but the progress bar is just stuck. If I use "Secure Login" it logs in, is very slow (I am on dial-up), and then logs me out when I go to a new page. It never opens the page, any Misplaced Pages page. Delete the cookie and re-boot, can go to any page. Login seems to go fine, says that you're logged in, but doesn't open any pages.

So, after a week or so of frustration, I started using a different account. That worked fine until today (2007-08-25). Now it is doing the same thing. Logged in, nothing just a stuck progress bar. Delete cookie and re-boot, view articles.

I tried the things on the help page. But, they don't seem to work either.

What is the deal? 207.69.139.146 16:12, 5 September 2007 (UTC) (WikiDon)

I'm afraid I can't help you, but I did want to suggest that if you don't get an answer here (and you may well, since some of these folks seem technologically very savvy), you might want to appeal for help at Misplaced Pages:Village pump (technical). It sounds horribly frustrating. Good luck! --Moonriddengirl 17:17, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't have problems with any other site. Just this one. It has to be something that the sever admin's did, made a change in the cookie or something. 90% sure of that. I can connect fine, I can be connected for six, eight, tweleve hours at a time, and surf around to a hundred sites. Of course with dial-up I do avoid sites like U-Tube and the like. I can't believe I am the only one having this issue..???

I think it must have something do with COOKIES? I did a search for "WIKI" on the hard drive and found 26 files (2 *.HTM and 24 *.TXT). I deleted all of them, rebooted, searched, "none", signed on this time it worked, but then when I went to the next page...LOCKUP... So, I searched again:

C:\Temporary Internet Files
- Cookie:don@en.wikipedia.org/

C:\Documents and Settings\Don\Cookies
- don@commons.wikimedia.txt
- don@en.wikipedia.txt
- don@en.wikipedia.txt
- don@en.wikiquote.txt
- don@en.wikisource.txt
- don@www.mediawiki.txt

With just ONE sign in I got SEVEN new files. And notice the "1"'s and "2"'s....this must have something to do with it?? I had to delete them all to get to this page. I have never seen a sight that gives you so many cookies (unless they are ads embeded in a webpage) with just ONE signin. It would also seem that having a "1" and a "2" might cause a conflit?

Is anybody else going to step up to help? I see questions in this forum being answered that don't even belong here, but my problem goes mostly ignored. Thanks 207.69.139.157 00:33, 7 September 2007 (UTC) (WikiDon)

Suggesting an article

I can't seem to figure out how to just 'suggest' that a certain article be added?? I think one on the trend and history of 'body carving' would be interesting! Thanks!! circeii@yahoo.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Circeii (talk • contribs) 17:06, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Are you referring to a form of body modification? -- kainaw™ 17:12, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Also, if you want to suggest that an article be created, you can add it to Misplaced Pages's requested article list. Cheers, Arky 17:52, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

wikipedia pages that parallel and check other media

Could[REDACTED] users create pages that parallel, i.e. cover, discuss, enable critique of, other media? For example, a newspaper online called Z publishes a story, "A says B to C". Could we create a page with the title, Z: "A says B to C"; and then allow people to comment, critique, rebutt, or add, information? If this is not appropriate for[REDACTED] itself (not encyclopedic), then is there another part of wikimedia where this is more appropriate? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.235.141.171 (talk) 17:43, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

That is not appropriate for Misplaced Pages. Check other sites, such as Digg and reddit. -- kainaw™ 17:47, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Indeed. If you want to see anything else that might be inappropriate for Misplaced Pages, I'd suggest you check out Misplaced Pages:What Misplaced Pages is not. Cheers, Arky 17:50, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

To a certain extent, I suspect that Wikinews functions in the way you describe. While it's not for specific "Z publishes" announcements, it might have a page "A says B to C" which can be critiqued, rebutted, commented upon & altered. Take this story, for instance: Woman suffers heart attack at cardiology summit. Editors may add to that story or simply put opinions about it in another tab. --Moonriddengirl 17:52, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Merging two pages and then removing one?

I have created two pages with similar titles

1) wiki/Residents_association 2) wiki/Residents_Association

It appears 1) is the default page when searching, however other members have added their associations, to entry 2).

Therefore, it is possible that members have posted the link to 2) elsewhere, but if people search at the Wiki site, they're more likely to find 1)!?!

What would be the most effective way to address this matter and merge the two entries and then delete one?

TIA —Preceding unsigned comment added by Armybike (talk • contribs) 18:01, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't know of any way to merge them specially, but my advice is to copy the text from, then add a redirect onto "Residents_association" to either your computer or maybe the talk page of "Association" then add the better parts to the article. ::Manors:: 18:07, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

The proper title is with a lower case "a" for association. That should be the title of the article. Since other editors have contributed, a history merge could be performed, which can be handled by an administrator. Copy and paste merges can cause the history to be lost, which breaks GFDL requirements. Was there a reason for creating the two pages or was it an accident? Leebo /C 18:12, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

The two pages were created following an oversight. I initially created 1) and then being new to this whole thing couldn't find it!?! I then created 2) and to be honest have only just realised that 1) is still there. How would I request a history merge from an admin? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Armybike (talk • contribs) 18:22, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Actually, community league is about the same subject and someone attempted to redirect to that. If that article existed first and covers the same thing, the others can probably just redirect to it. Leebo /C 18:28, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

community league are American, were as a Residents association is in the UK. Whilst they are similar, not all aspects are the same. Armybike 18:46, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

They could still be covered in one article, just with different sections showing the differences by location. Leebo /C 18:50, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Please help me to simplify the question

Dear Sir or Madam,

The process of getting to the page where one actually types the new article is both labyrinthine and Byzantine. Please make it simple for me. Please just give me a link to get there directly, without having to chase all the red herrings. I would appreciate it very much.

Cordially,

Bradwell Jackson —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bradwelljackson (talk • contribs) 18:15, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

You can create a new page from anywhere, by searching for the title of the page you want to create and clicking on the red link that appears at the top of the search page. Alternatively, you can put the page name in double brackets like this ] and following that link. Leebo /C 18:18, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Page deletion

Why is my page repeatedly deleted? And the rference page to my name Ray Smith sems to be change regularly to delete my name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bulletmovies (talk • contribs) 18:53, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Bulletmovies has several times been deleted for failing to meet the notability requirements of Misplaced Pages. The policy behind the blue-linked text will explain to you what criteria a company needs to meet to have an article. Ray Smith Filmmaker was deleted for the same reason. Your article Ray Smith (film director) is currently being questioned as well in terms of meeting notability for biographies. There are specific criteria related at that document for meeting the notability requirements for creative professionals. The explanation given for the removal of your name from Ray Smith is that it has been redlinked. It probably will not be removed again unless Ray Smith (film director) is deleted. To avoid that, you should review the notability guidelines and ensure that the article is supported by reliable, third-party sources. You should also be aware that Misplaced Pages strongly discourages autobiography and conflict of interest editing. It isn't impossible, but it may substantially increase the challenges of editing. --Moonriddengirl 19:08, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Your articles are being deleted because you are promoting your company and yourself (Bulletmovies and Ray Smith respectively). This goes against Misplaced Pages's neutral point of view policy and represents a conflict of interest. My advice would be to stop writing about yourself and your company; let someone else do it if you are notable. Leebo /C 19:08, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Watchlist scripts

Are there any watchlist scripts that allow me to watch a a selection of pages that I highlight (e.g. in a category), rather than going through them one by one? Thanks, RHB - Talk 18:56, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't know about scripts, but you can use the "view and edit raw watchlist" feature, copy/paste the contents, and keep text files to copy/paste by hand if it would be more convineant --lucid 19:01, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Pornography

Please delete the pornography posted at http://en.wikipedia.org/Belgrade.

Cynthia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.36.230.250 (talk) 19:33, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I can't see images when I'm at this computer, can you be more specific in what you want removed? Leebo /C 19:37, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

There is no more pornography on that page. Remember, you can delete vandalism yourself. Click the history tab then undo the vandalism, or simply edit out the alterations. ::Manors:: 19:40, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't see any sign there has been pornography, but it's not impossible that one of the images has been vandalized without showing in the article history. PrimeHunter 19:55, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I looked at the history for each image, and there's no indication that any of them were ever vandalized or altered in any way. wikipediatrix 22:37, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

There are probably people in the world who would call Image:Ada leti.jpg "pornographic". I may have spotted a topless woman, but Misplaced Pages is not censored, and the image is harmless to most people. PrimeHunter 00:20, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

I had to squint really hard to even find the alleged topless woman you speak of, and the modulation of the pixel hues actually suggests that she might be wearing a tan bikini. Either way, it's a ridiculous thing to lodge a complaint about. wikipediatrix 00:26, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

If the complaint was actually about that picture then I agree it's ridiculous. PrimeHunter 01:55, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

fleeing a police officer

Bold text IS FLEEING A POLICE OFFICER ON FOOT A 'FELONY? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.179.185.193 (talk) 19:37, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages questions only. Perhaps you could try the reference desk. ::Manors:: 19:39, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

This page is for help with using Misplaced Pages, not for general reference questions. That's what the reference desks are for. However, your question can not be answered, because Misplaced Pages cannot provide advice on legal matters and laws vary greatly around the world. Leebo /C 19:40, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Start, create content, stub or article

Hello and please forgive the ignorant question: how do I start a stub or article? I have scoured the how-to sections and can't find the answer. Thank you, Mark —Preceding unsigned comment added by Markcnsg (talk • contribs) 19:59, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

No ignorant questions. :) This may be a good place to start. You can also put the title of the page you want in the search box on any Misplaced Pages page and, if it comes up with "No page with that title exists," it will indicate that "You can create this page or request it." Click on the redlinked "create this page" and off you go. :) --Moonriddengirl 20:09, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you so much!!! I think I have it now. Take care, Mark —Preceding unsigned comment added by Markcnsg (talk • contribs) 20:28, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Advertising/Marketing posts.

Hello,

Just wondering how this post: http://en.wikipedia.org/Snapalope made it past the Misplaced Pages editors since it clearly states in the rules that posts about marketing or advertising campaigns are forbidden on Misplaced Pages. I tried to post a similar page about an advertising campaign and it was very quickly erased.

Thanks.

Binzerella 20:11, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

At What Misplaced Pages is not, it says, Misplaced Pages is not for "Propaganda, advocacy, or recruitment of any kind, commercial, political, religious, or otherwise. Of course, an article can report objectively about such things, as long as an attempt is made to approach a neutral point of view." In other words, it's all right to write an encyclopedic article about an advertising campaign; it's just not all right to conduct one. That said, the article you point out seems to be lacking in third party reliable resources, which is a problem. Misplaced Pages being large, problems can escape detection for some time. --Moonriddengirl 20:28, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Unnecessary swap

Is this appropriate? All this person did was to swap the order of "Xbox 360" and "PS3". Jeffrey.Kleykamp 20:29, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

It's not inherently inappropriate. They might have been motivated by nothing more than a desire to see them in alphabetical order. --Moonriddengirl 20:31, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Basically, the edit is just useless. Not really anything to worry about. ::Manors:: 20:40, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Parser Functions

I am trying to figure out parser functions. Please look at . I'm trying to make {{X5|right}} make the box to go the right and {{X5|left}} make the box go to the left. Alpta 20:29, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm not really an expert on this....you might want to check out m:Parser functions. Happy editing, Arky 20:34, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I have read it. Alpta 20:41, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Does anyone know? Alpta 21:08, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Although your question is about Misplaced Pages, you could post your question at the Computing Reference Desk. ::Manors:: 21:26, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I will fix it. I know what you have done wrong. You have not set which parameter is to be #switched... -- Anonymous Dissident 21:27, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

(ec)I've already changed it from a switch to a parameter, which works just as well, so that {{X5|align=left}} will left align, and "align=right" or just {{X5}} will right align.--Werdan7 21:34, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Okay, thank you. Alpta 21:36, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

If you are sure. But I can make a parameter (later on, I have to run) -- Anonymous Dissident 21:41, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Could you make a parameter? Alpta 22:24, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I have made parameter. Left is default, but align=right will make it align to the right. -- Anonymous Dissident 07:47, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Reference format

I bet this question is familiar to many: is there any rule or guideline, as to which type of reference format (Harvard or endnotes) should be preferred in Misplaced Pages articles? I found no such guideline in the help pages.

Thank you.

Gidip 21:00, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Hello, Gidip. Don't worry, all questions are welcome here! :D Have you tried looking in WP:REF? It should answer your question. If not, feel free to ask me onmy talk page. Good luck! *Cremepuff 222* 21:04, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

There are a couple ways to cite sources, but I'll show you the most popular ways. One way is through external links. This is done by placing a website in a single pair of brackets next to a fact like this: . Another way is to use <ref> tags. This is done like this: Oranges are orange. <ref></ref>, which looks like this: Oranges are orange. After you do this, place the text <references/> at the bottom of the article, under a References header. Cheers, Arky 21:10, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I understand it can be difficult at first, I'm sure it is for most. Feel free to contact us if you need anymore help. If you want to practice with citing, you can use the Sandbox to test. ::Manors:: 21:24, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you all. I never thought I explain myself so badly - well I guess it's my fault. What I meant was: how do I decide which format to choose - footnotes or Harvard references? Is there any common preference throughout all Misplaced Pages? WP:REF says nothing about it. Thank you all for your concern. Gidip 22:21, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Ah, I see. I'd suggest you look at WP:HARV, WP:ECITE, and WP:FOOT. They are the three best ways to cite sources, and all are equally acceptable, although I myself prefer WP:FOOT. However, there is no "best" way. Cheers, Arky 22:28, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Gidip 22:31, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

To get a better grasp of my dilemma, take a look at this talk page: User talk:Calliopejen1#self-incompatibility in plants. Gidip 22:34, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

You might also want to check out Template:Cite web and Template:Cite book, especially the latter. I find it is more useful to cite books and non-internet publications "Harvard-style", although, again, this is only preference. Cheers, Arky 00:51, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Default sorting with certain surnames

I am pretty sure that at some point in the past I was informed that when default sorting surnames that begin with "Mc" (i.e. McNamara) or "O'" (i.e. O'Sullivan) that Mc becomes "Mac" and O'S, O'N, O'M, etc. become "Os", "Om", "On", et al for auditing/counting purposes. I would like to verify this so my good-faith edits are not reverted.

If this is the case we also need to get the word out to the wider Wiki community (via WP:FOOTBALL as per User:Dudesleeper). Can you please confirm on my talk page (and that of User:Dudesleeper) so we can get the (foot)ball rolling.

Thanks. Ontheveldt 21:30, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Woah, no need to yell in the topic there! :D *Cremepuff 222* 21:33, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I forgot what all caps mean. Fixed it.

Ontheveldt 21:43, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

download[REDACTED] earth

how to down load[REDACTED] earth? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mukund chotai (talk • contribs) 21:50, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I think you mean Google Earth, and you can find more information about it on that page. We don't have a "Misplaced Pages Earth" or a "WikiEarth," however there is a proposal for such a project here. Hersfold 21:54, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

If you are looking for maps that work like a Wiki, there is the website Wikimapia, which requires no download. ::Manors:: 23:43, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Embedding Videos

How does one embed a video from Google Video using Wiki code? 67.177.186.240 22:04, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

what could cause fluid buildup on the lung? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.224.182.218 (talk) 22:43, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

This is for Misplaced Pages questions only. Try a reference desk. You also interrupted someone elses question. To answer the question, there isn't a wiki code because Misplaced Pages doesn't allow integrated video. You will need to link to it in external links. ::Manors:: 23:40, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

2,000,000 articles- What if we reach it on September 11th?

We're doing swell and are creating them really fast! At the rate we're going, chances are we might hit 2,000,000 by September 11th. What if it happens on that significant day, and not any other? --70.179.175.240 23:51, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Life goes on? We can't stop the world to mourn every time someone dies, there have been so many horrible things in human history if we spent all that time worrying about times and dates and deaths we'd never get anything done --lucid 23:56, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

There is nothing special about coincidence. What is special is a lack of coincidence. -- kainaw™ 23:59, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Uhm... it might make the day marginally less sad? Oh, and give the crazed conspiracy crew a great new "Jimbo did WTC" idea. --tjstrf talk 00:01, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm actually not so happy that we're "creating them really fast". Compared to when I joined Misplaced Pages two years ago, the place is now dangerously top-heavy with really half-assed articles that do more harm by existing than if there were no article at all. Instead of being excited about the frenzied production of more and more substandard stubs, I'd love to see people working harder to improve the ones we already have. wikipediatrix 00:19, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm hoping many more will concentrate on improving the existing articles after we reach the 2,000,000th. Who knows whether that hope will come true though. --70.179.175.240 01:49, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

The beauty of Misplaced Pages is that we don't merely have to hope for desirable outcomes, we can actually make them happen. If not entirely, then at least we can take action, and see our efforts having noticeable influence on the course of events here. One small example from my personal experience came from my early dabblings as a Help desk volunteer. One thing I learned of by reading other people's answers to questions was a fascinating tool called the Editor's index to Misplaced Pages. I found it immediately useful, but I thought of some ways to improve it, and I suggested them to the author. To my surprise, he not only took my suggestions to heart, but implemented them more cleverly than I had initially envisioned. So now a tool exists that dozens if not hundreds (thousands?) of other editors are finding useful, and every time I use it (which is daily), I see and use some features I suggested - although I humbly emphasize that the vast bulk of the work that went into building the index was not mine, and neither was the original idea for it. But there is something deeply satisfying about seeing one's own trivial contribution to the larger structure wedging its way in and persisting because it adds some small but worthwhile value.

So, my advice is don't merely hope that many more will concentrate in improving existing articles - instead get involved with one or more of the Active Wiki Fixup Projects. Your ideas and labor can make a visible difference around here. Furthermore, the user interface of Misplaced Pages is all editable, and I think the portions relating to article creation may need some adjustment. Currently, I don't think the system does enough to caution new users against creating new articles (which are likely to be of low quality, or even inappropriate). For some reason (having to do with the way Misplaced Pages presents itself), a sizable fraction of new users seem to get the idea to create yet more new articles rather than try to improve existing articles. Which is to say, it's much easier for a new user to detect the absence of some article we don't have, than to detect the presence of all the Active Wiki Fixup Projects we do have. I think that is an ergonomic shortcoming we could correct. But to correct it, somebody would have to do the work to analyze how the current interface is going wrong, and exactly what we could do to fix it. And then sell the idea to all the interested parties. --Teratornis 05:30, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

September 6

Netherlands

what makes the netherlands different from other places? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.2.129.76 (talk) 00:36, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Primarily location. :) You might be interested in the article at Netherlands. There's quite a lot of good information about the country there. --Moonriddengirl 00:48, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
- I was actually going to suggest that its drug policy(!) might be what sets it apart... --JayHenry 06:27, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Supporting

Does creating articles count as supporting Misplaced Pages? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.216.60 (talk • contribs) September 6 2007 (UTC)

Of course it does. (Though I think that link is specifically meant for fundraising.) --tjstrf talk 00:47, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

I think we have to add the qualification that the articles should stick. Articles that violate policies or guidelines and get deleted just end up wasting the time of other Wikipedians, and it would be hard to argue that that sort of activity supports Misplaced Pages. Since creating articles that stick turns out to be rather difficult for a significant fraction of persons new to Misplaced Pages editing (many people form initial impressions of what Misplaced Pages is that are wide of the mark), I would go so far as to suggest that a new user would support Misplaced Pages better by trying to improve existing articles (and preferably under the guidance of one of the article improvement projects) rather than by trying to create new articles. Misplaced Pages already has 6,943,836 articles, making this the largest encyclopedia ever, and a dreadfully large number of these articles need serious work, so it's not as if the most pressing need here is to get even bigger. Most newly-created articles tend to be of rather low quality for some time, until more people come by to work on them. For some reason, the notion that article creation is the first thing to try seems to be a common first impression - it was for me. I consider this something of an ergonomic shortcoming in Misplaced Pages's user interface, that it could even lead to such an impression, rather than reliably directing ambitious newcomers to the much greater need to improve the backlog of low-quality existing articles. --Teratornis 04:59, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Maybe we can start here, at the help desk? I personally believe that the best answer to the question "how do I start a new article?" is "you don't. Creating articles should only be done by more experienced users". By the time the user has gained enough experience to judge whether an article should be created, he will have no need to ask again. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 11:54, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I tend to agree. A brusque but often correct answer would be "If you have to ask how to create an article, you're not ready to create an article." Perhaps we can work up a suitable warning template to go along with the somewhat optimistic {{Creation}}. OK, {{Creation}} is not really all that optimistic, but I think we need to get the point across that a new article faces grim odds similar to a newly hatched fish, and call more attention to the dark side of Misplaced Pages, before new users discover the horror firsthand. --Teratornis 23:22, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Possible copyvio

Would the Lex Hixon article happen to be a copyvio? 69.40.254.142 01:24, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, it's certainly not neutral. The majority of the article seems to be a self-written biography, and isn't sourced to anything. I can find the exact same text on several other sites, several of which do not appear to be mirrors of the article here. Thanks for pointing this out, I'll see what can be done about it. Hersfold 03:33, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Citing Audio Evidence

I added some information about Julia Murney, stating that she is known for dead-on impressions of certain people. Since they are impressions, there is obviously no written proof of that. She does them during audio interviews. I do have at least three podcasts where she does some impressions of other actresses, but I'm not sure how to site proof when it was given orally (from the actress). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Midoria (talk • contribs) 01:37, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

If she is "known" for something, then doubtlessly someone else will have commented on it somewhere, and you can cite that.--Max Talk (+) 04:37, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Delete from search drop down menu

how do i delete something from the the search drop down menu? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.202.42.95 (talk) 02:24, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

That's something caused by your browser, not anything to do with Misplaced Pages itself. If you clear out your private data, that should get rid of it for you. (In Firefox, Tools -> Clear Private Data... -> Saved Form and Search History -> Delete. Not sure in IE, sorry). Hersfold 03:23, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

In IE, Tools-->internet options-->content tab-->autocomplete-->clear forms and clear passwords.--Fuhghettaboutit 04:16, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Improving Google search result

Is there a way to get a Misplaced Pages article a higher placement on Google search results?

I just did a Google search and entered the exact title of a Misplaced Pages article, and it didn't show up in the first 15 pages of results (I stopped checking after that).

The weird and frustrating thing is that after the first page of Google search results, the relevancy of the links decreases dramatically, while the Misplaced Pages article that doesn't show up is 100% relevant and contains all five searched-for words.

Any ideas? Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.142.255.180 (talk) 02:37, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

What is the exact title of the article? If it's very recent then maybe Google hasn't indexed it yet. If it's The Kings Of Classic Rock‎ then it's the 6th Google hit for me in quotes. PrimeHunter 03:17, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Google Search uses a page-ranking algorithm that depends on your search terms. For example, if you type the exact title of a Misplaced Pages article, and put double-quotes around the whole thing (so you are searching for an exact phrase), the Misplaced Pages article usually lands quite high in the search results, with possible exceptions for phrases that are extremely common. In contrast, if you search for several keywords (not in quotes) which appear in the body of an article, widely spaced from each other, that may put the Misplaced Pages article lower in the search results, because Google considers page titles more relevant than words lower on the page, and pages that have your search words close to each other are more "relevant" than pages that have your search words far apart. Again, words that are extremely common may appear on millions of Web pages, creating many opportunities for various pages to sneak ahead of the Misplaced Pages article's ranking by one or another quirk of Google's page ranking algorithm. Of course one way to boost Misplaced Pages articles in your Google searches is to type the word "Misplaced Pages" along with your other search terms. And if you specifically want to search only on Misplaced Pages with Google, you can do that too. All that being said, page ranking is an inexact science. Google tries to come up with an algorithm which presents search results in the order you want, but it might be difficult even for another human to sort the pages just the way you'd like. Getting Google to dance to your tune may sometimes be akin to pushing with a rope. --Teratornis 04:34, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Your list of Buffalo actors and actresses

My name is missing from your long list of Actresses and Actors from Buffalo. How can I join the list. You can confirm my lengthy credits on IMDB. I was born in Buffalo and lived there for fifty-five years before moving ot Southern California.

Thanks, —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brynababy (talk • contribs) 03:03, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

It would help if you said who you are. Maybe Bryna Weiss? And are you referring to Famous people from Buffalo, NY#Entertainers and actors? PrimeHunter 03:09, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Additionally, please be aware that IMDB is not a reliable source, so cannot be used for verification purposes, or to establish notability. Thanks! 03:20, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

And why doesn't Misplaced Pages allow integrating videos? (Re: Embedding Videos)

I thought an online encyclopedia was supposed to be interactive, and less like a printed one. What's the harm in integrating videos onto an article? --70.179.175.240 03:03, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

I believe the main reason is copyright concerns. 03:06, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Also security concerns. It's possible to encode a virus into a video which can be loaded onto someone's computer when they view it. The same goes with images, but in order to include those you'd have to upload the image to the servers, and we've got a pretty good malware filter on the servers. Embedding videos doesn't require uploading, so it puts users at higher risk. Hersfold 03:21, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Our sister project the Wikimedia_Commons accepts video and links can be added to articles here. Check out commons:Commons:Media_help for the details on this. Because of the concerns with virus and copyright that Hersfold pointed out, this is not a simple process! --JayHenry 06:33, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

redirects

I'm trying to make a redirect from "Miyako Ito" to Miyako Itō, but I'm scared, because I'm beginning to worry that it might be declined. Can you help me?

Sure; just create the page Miyako Ito with the content "#REDIRECT ]" (without the quotes) Veinor 04:09, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

For the full details, see: Help:Redirect. And for future reference, you don't need to add the {{Helpme}} template to your Help desk questions (I removed the one you included above), because dozens of Misplaced Pages volunteers monitor this page around the clock, and someone will see your question. And while a bit of caution is always a good idea when trying something new, fear not - Misplaced Pages is by its design remarkably robust. Of course do read the help first. --Teratornis 04:40, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Why was my article deleted?

Hi!

Thanks for reading. I recently attempted to update a page called 'Brian Rimmer', a fledgling musical artist who I manage and has recently signed to a major label. I intended to verify the information already on the page but the page has now seemingly disappeared and any links to the page in question have turned black. The page more than meets Misplaced Pages's requirements for validity (I have checked these thoroughly) and I am afraid it may now be a candidate for speedy deletion.

At the time I was unaware of the four tildes guideline, which may be a contributing factor. Any help with this would be much appreciated - if the page in question could be 'unlocked' so to speak, I could verify and source the information & rectify any doubts about its validity as a Misplaced Pages page.

Thanks again, Lance —Preceding unsigned comment added by LancevincentOZ (talk • contribs) 05:17, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Just a quick answer as I am going to bed - see: Why was my article deleted? It would be nice, of course, if somehow everyone whose article gets deleted would automatically get a message telling them to read that page. Even a canned explanation is better than no explanation at all. --Teratornis 05:56, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

It does. "If the page has been deleted, check the deletion log, and please see Why was my page deleted?." Doesn't help having the notice if people don't read them. ;) Also, in this case, the page wasn't actually deleted. It was tagged for speedy deletion, the page creator then proceed to remove the speedy tag against the instruction left on his/her user talk page, and the original editor then changed it to a redirect instead. KTC 06:27, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

To clarify, the link is on the article page location, and not left on the creator page, which I'm thinking might have been what you were thinking. Though in this case, it wouldn't have made any difference, as the page creator (not the one that asked the question above) didn't read and follow the message on the message that was left on his/her talk page. KTC 06:29, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh yes, please do read our page on conflict of interests before you proceed to edit page regarding people you manage. Regards. KTC 06:30, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Please also read WP:BAND to make sure that the musician meets the notability guidelines. Corvus cornix 22:12, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

External links

I've adopted a user under the adopt a user program, and he asked me a question to which I'm not certain of the answer: is it possible to create external links that open in a new window? From what I gather from WP:MARKUP, the answer is no, but I thought I'd check here to be sure. Sarcasticidealist 08:39, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

I believe its not possible, when ever I open external links, I right click and "open as new tab".--Kerotan Have a nice day :) 08:41, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

I have seen others say it's not possible in Misplaced Pages. People with their own wiki can set up the MediaWiki software to do it. See mw:Manual:Opening external links in a new window. PrimeHunter 13:32, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

What algorithm is used for "Random Article"?

I would like to find out what algorithm is used to select a "Random Article" in the Misplaced Pages feature of the same name.

I am currently writing my MSc thesis, and have used this function as part of my investigation process. It would therefore be beneficial to make reference to this algorithm during my discussion/analysis section.

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.36.112.136 (talk) 10:22, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

You'd probably be better off asking at Meta-Wiki, the headquarters for all Wikimedia projects, or at MediaWiki, the site for the software Misplaced Pages uses. I do know that it searches only in the "Main" namespace, that is, actual articles, but aside from that I don't know much about it and I doubt many others here would. Sorry. Hersfold 13:24, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Reference desk/Archives/Computing/2007 June 17#Misplaced Pages Random Article - see Steve Summit's 2nd post. Code available here. x42bn6 Talk Mess 14:16, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

If your thesis relates to Misplaced Pages more than incidentally, you may wish to see: Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages in academic studies and Misplaced Pages:Researching Misplaced Pages, to see what other academics are doing with Misplaced Pages. You might find something you can use. --Teratornis 15:56, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

I think the way that it works is that whenever an article is created, it's given a random number, and when 'random article' is clicked on, another random number is chosen and the non-redirect article that has a random number nearest to and higher than the chosen number (choosing the article with the lowest number if a number higher than any article's number was chosen) is presented as the random article. You can look at the software yourself to make sure; here's a link to the relevant code. --ais523 16:45, 6 September 2007 (U T C)

I will have to disagree with a comment from the linked archive, for a project the size of the English Misplaced Pages, the page is randomly selected from among all pages. My calculations show that there will be many articles with a chance as low as roughly 1 in a trillion (

10^{12}

) for being chosen, while others may have a chance as high as 1 in 100,000. (for those more pedantic than myself, I am aware of the irrelevant "it's not random, it's pseudo-random" issue.) -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 19:36, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

This is a FAQ. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 19:41, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Correcting typo's in archive

Hi,

On the Dutch Misplaced Pages, back in February someone wrote 'Guide' instead of 'Guido'. When I corrected this typo in my archive this morning, I got blocked for 3 days and was vehemently attacked by no less than four moderators.

I have two questions:

What is the English rule regarding the correction of archived typo's?
Are moderators allowed to make their own rules, when nothing is written?

Regards, Guido den Broeder 10:36, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

See WP:TALK#Behavior that is unacceptable. --Silver Edge 10:44, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

That is slightly odd, my best guess is that you were blocked for some sort of 3RR violation, and that the block may have been extended on account of your pre-existing block history. But then, I don't actually speak Dutch, so these are all guesses.--VectorPotential 10:52, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi, there is no Dutch 3RR rule to violate, but if there were, should it apply to correcting a typo? Guido den Broeder 10:55, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

It might help if you could translate a few of those edit summaries into English so we could get a better idea of what was going on there.--VectorPotential 11:00, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

(Nogmaals:) niet editten in andermans bijdragen = (Again: don't edit another person's contributions Guido den Broeder 11:05, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

I find the block a little bit odd, but then I don't really know anything about nl.wikipedia's policies.--VectorPotential 11:09, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

There are no written Dutch policies on the topic except for a proposal page nl:Misplaced Pages:Archiveren (Archiving) that reads in footnote 2: Sometimes small edits are done to improve the usefulness of the archive, e.g. the correction of links. When I pointed to that page the reply I got was: "No discussion is possible." Guido den Broeder 11:12, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

There's a general rule on en.Misplaced Pages that you do not edit another person's comments on Talk pages. Sometimes folks don't mind minor formatting fixes (indentation & such) but correcting someone's spelling or grammar is frowned upon. Editing someone's comments in an archive is just bad form. Sounds like you ran into someone who is very strict about that. -- Kesh 11:35, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi, this seems to contradict Misplaced Pages:Refactoring talk pages. Also, the person who made the typo did not object. Guido den Broeder 11:42, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

In fact, he has given me permission to correct it. Guido den Broeder 12:39, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Actually, Misplaced Pages:Refactoring talk pages only speaks about formatting (such as indentation), not spelling. Correcting spelling and grammar is a bad idea. If you can point this out on-Wiki to an admin, they should unblock you. If it was personal correspondence, you're out of luck. Either way, I'd suggest not doing this again. -- Kesh 14:25, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

It speaks about other minor fixes, too. Anyway, I've pointed it out, but I get no response. Guido den Broeder 19:55, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Aha:

Refactoring ... is a stronger term than copy editing
Copy editing involves correcting spelling, terminology, punctuation, and grammatical and semantic errors...

Guido den Broeder 20:29, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

want to purchase sex toy

I want to purchase sex toy for my wife, can i be helped by you that how can i purchase and from where. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.50.164.219 (talk) 11:41, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, we can only help you with Misplaced Pages, which, as you may have noticed, isn't exactly in that line of trade. Good luck with that. Hersfold 13:21, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages does not traffic in Sex toys but we do have an article about them, as we have articles about 6,943,836 things. --Teratornis 15:51, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

I think he was looking for sex toy advice, but we don't really have a reference desk for advice like that. A specific question about sex toys might be appropriate at the miscellaneous ref desk. Leebo /C 15:53, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

RE:Speedy deletion of Decisional analysis of complex systems

I don't know the name of the administrators who deleted my article after debate and consensus and what is the reason why my article was deleted. First, I wrote a previous article under the name of "decision engineering" and the vocabulary and grammar need to be improved. Some adminatrators invited me to do it. I made some corrections and re-writings, but it was not enough and without any help from anyone english or american trough English Misplaced Pages, the article was cancelled again by Misplaced Pages administrators in June 2007. Convinced that my suject is fair, I created in september 2007 an article on English Misplaced Pages with the permission of the author under the original title of the method "Decisional Analysis of complex systems". I mentioned sources and references, as this method is recognized by the top universities (HEC) and Research center CNRS) in France. Nay way the article was deleted without explanation. So I am not sure the reason of this deleting process regarding my subject is either vocabulary, or grammar, either a copyright question. Now vocabulary and grammar are perfect and if I can prove I have the permission of the author, I can do it. I have permission from the author (J. Bucki) to release the content of the article you mentioned freely and I am the administrator of the site (http://iegd.institut.online.fr/ART02-B-ADSc-BPR-en.htm in this case) First I want to know the name of one of the administrators in charge of the deleting process in order to communicate. If I know why English[REDACTED] has problem with the subject, the matter of my article, I can understand: may be concepts are not enough classical etc. They have to tell me the exact reason according Misplaced Pages policy. I ca follow a rule if it is explicit. But if I see wrong reasons are given, it is fair that I request to know the truth. Isn't it your position too ? Robertatum 13.53, 6 september 2007

Hi Robertatum. The article was deleted as it was a copyright violation. For infomration on Misplaced Pages Copyright Violations please see here. If you want to relase the copyright please see here. There are a lot of other policies that link from those pages as well. This should help you. I can't comment on any other aspect of the article as it is deleted. Pedro | Chat 12:10, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
- Even if you have permission of the author (your assertion thereof is not enough to prove that by the way), it doesn't matter. All material on Misplaced Pages must be freely redistributable under the GNU Free Documentation License, so posting material here that is copyrighted but permission has been given to use here only is not useful; the material remains single use only and not redistributable. Instead, you or someone else would need to list on the external site a statement releasing the material wholesale such as "I, (name), am the author of this article, (article name), and I release its content under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 and later."--Fuhghettaboutit 12:56, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Editing

The problem I have is that after editing my article does not remain permanently on Misplaced Pages. Apart from the core criterias that I have respected, do you know what could be the reason?? Ty —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.202.93.248 (talk) 12:58, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Sorry no, we can't help you much presently because you haven't told us the name of the article and you're editing here under your IP address so we can't search for deleted articles you created. Very generally, you can take a look at Why was my article deleted?, but we can answer much more specifically if you tell us the exact name of the deleted article.--Fuhghettaboutit 13:04, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps you forgot to press the 'Save page' button and looked only at the preview. Guido den Broeder 13:52, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Lifeline Expedition

I have written a piece about the Lifeline Expedition, but the 4th paragraph does not seem to have worked properly and has gone in one long line in a frame. Could you tell me how to sort this out? Many thanksDlpott 14:38, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

I fixed the formatting (that happens when you leave space before beginning a line).

like this

On another note, your article needs to be cleaned up a bit. I'll review it later and try to improve the formatting. Leebo /C 14:45, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Distinguished Flying Cross list of Recipients

Gentlemen, I would like to submit my father's name to the list of Distinguished Flying Cross Recipients. His name is Robert Jackson(no middle name). U.S. Army Air Corps, 10th Air Force, 351st Bombardment Group(medium), 490th Bombardment Squadron. China-Burma-India Theatre of Operations. 1944. This is straight from his DD-214. Thank you in advance for your efforts. Regards, Thomas G. Jackson

Son of a B25 Tail-gunner. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.25.142.225 (talk) 15:03, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages is a wiki. Anyone may edit it. If you have a reliable source to support your claim, you may add him to the article as long as you cite that source. Leebo /C 15:06, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

It appears that you where trying to add your fathers name to the Category:Recipients of US Distinguished Flying Cross, here which isn't a "list of Distinguished Flying Cross Recipients", but is a category, categories are populated from their articles, for example the article about Michael Collins (astronaut) at the bottom of the page you will see the categories that are relevant to his article, in order for your father Robert Jackson to have this category an article must be written about him that demonstrate his notability. see, Misplaced Pages:Notability (people) on what standards are used. Thank you.▪◦▪≡ЅiREX≡ 17:37, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Getting Involved with WikiProjects

Although I edit pages regularly, I am not very knowledgeable about much that goes further from that. What are some of the ways that I can become involved in a WikiProject, for instance, WikiProject English? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oddmartian2 (talk • contribs) 17:56, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

The main aspect of WikiProject involvement is editing articles that fall under that project's scope. You may want to go to a project's page and look through the article's that it covers for ones to improve. Most projects have a "to-do list" of activities that anyone can do at any time. Regarding WikiProject English, I don't think such a project exists, but there is a WikiProject Regional English dialects. Is that what you were referring to? Leebo /C 18:00, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

That project appears to be currently inactive. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (tαlk) 18:07, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

True. Hopefully, Oddmartian can clarify what he meant. Leebo /C 18:08, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that I saw a WikiProject English somewhere that involves improving spelling and grammar. I'll have a look. Oddmartian2 18:39, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Grammar and Misplaced Pages:Typo might apply. :) --Moonriddengirl 19:41, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks--WikiProject Grammar is what I was thinking of. Oddmartian2 14:07, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Also see Misplaced Pages:Cleanup for many other ways to get involved. --Teratornis 23:11, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Posting while logged in

What additional steps are needed after logging in to post an edit using my logged in identity? It seems 50-75% of the time after I log in, any edit I make appears as an "anonymous edit" and displays my IP address. Since I'm editing pages involving known criminals and possible terrorists, I really love that my IP address is displayed every time I make an edit so these savory individuals can hunt me down for a friendly chat. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Factcheck 4uwingnuts (talk • contribs) 18:13, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

If you are getting logged out unknowingly, that is a problem with your computer or your Internet browser. Misplaced Pages will not log you out. Also, I'm not sure your username is really an appropriate choice. Leebo /C 18:25, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Nothing further should be needed. Checking your talk comments I don't see anywhere where your IP was recorded - can you name a page? Remember to sign your name (on talk pages) with four tilde marks ~~~~ (like that) to put your user name against the comments though - it stops the bot signing them. I also echo Leebo that your username would seem inappropriate. Would you like help on changing it?Pedro | Chat 18:29, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, the anonymous edits wouldn't be associated with his account. They'd be associated with that IP address (which he clearly wouldn't want to tell us). Leebo /C 18:30, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Ah, didn't read it that way. The editor asked what additional steps he needed after logging in, and the answer is none at all as the only way his IP can now be checked is via a 'crat at RCU. As you say his browser could be logging him out for whatever reason and that's the issue. Pedro | Chat 18:36, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Right, his issue is that he gets logged out while editing, so the edit he thought was going to be attributed to him is instead attributed to his IP address, which he'd rather not be showing. Understandable. However, like Pedro says, there are no additional steps involved after logging in for staying logged in. Leebo /C 18:40, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

I have never lost my login during a session if I check "Remember me" at login. If I don't check it then I sometimes lose the login without noticing it. But it can depend on your browser settings and other things. If you are alert then you can check that the top of the page displays your user name before clicking "Save". If your user name is not displayed then log in again. PrimeHunter 18:42, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the input. But why do you say my name is inappropriate? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Factcheck 4uwingnuts Factcheck 4uwingnuts 18:44, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

It seems inappropriate because it would appear that you are referring to the editors you are factchecking as "wingnuts". Doesn't really have a collaborative spirit. Leebo /C 18:45, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

I was shocked and offended by the username of the first editor I came into contact with after registering, but of course "he did it too" is not an excuse. I wasn't aware that my username had to be anything other than non-profane. How do I change it?Factcheck 4uwingnuts 18:50, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Goto WP:RENAME and make a request▪◦▪≡ЅiREX≡ 18:54, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

You may also want to read Help:Logging_in#How_to_log_in, it may be a cookie problem, to test to see if you are logged in, click the "my contributions" link that is located at the very top when you are logged in you should also see your username ▪◦▪≡ЅiREX≡ 18:51, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Name change requested. Thanks for the help.Factcheck 4uwingnuts 19:12, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

- And I comment- that 'first person you met' was probably Murderbike.K14 10:57, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

How can I

block other users comments/emails?

hellllp!

Éowyn Alestrii 18:41, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

You cannot. Misplaced Pages relies on a system of transparency and open communication. If specific editors are leaving you inappropriate comments or emails, you can report them to administrators after warning them. Leebo /C 18:43, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

The only message you have received on your talkpage is a Welcome message, if you are taking about BetacommandBot removing fairuse images from your userpage with the message "Removing fair use image used outside the mainspace per WP:NFCC" that you received here it because you cannot use fairuse images on your userpage only freeuse images, see Policy #9, Restrictions on location, here▪◦▪≡ЅiREX≡ 19:17, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

You can avoid emails by clicking Special:Preferences, clicking "User profile" (probably already selected), and unchecking "Enable e-mail from other users". But it appears from Special:Emailuser/MurtaghxMisery that emails are already disabled. This does not affect edits on your talk page. PrimeHunter 21:26, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

an external link?correction?addition?

hi folks, at the end of the Cindy Sheehan information there are two external links; one "official" and one "unofficial" - the latter is a man in Oregon (with the best of intentions, i think) but he does NOT have any direct connection to the Cindy Sheehan campaign. at the request of Cindy and her sister DeDe i have created a google group which anyone can sign-up for:

//groups.google.com/group/cindy4congress

which will keep them up to date. Can we add this link as the "official" google group supporting Cindy's campaign?

thanks buddd 19:03, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

we really need folks to contact us directly - not just sign on to an unofficial site where their information doesn't actually help the campaign!

I removed the unofficial link, as per Misplaced Pages:External links, which states that links should to be officially related to the subject and that they should be reliable sources. Leebo /C 19:13, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Entry for famous gays and lesbians

I have posted a name on the list for famous gays and lesbians and it seems to disappear or someone is erasing it. How does one resolve the erasing of an entry? Am I posting the name incorrectly? When the entry is made the name remains in red while the others are in blue, then POOF the entry is gone. Aimthehun 19:07, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

It seems you're trying to add Jude Schell. When the link is red, it means there is no article for that individual. Notable individuals typically have articles written about them, so that may be leading people to remove it. If you want the entry to stay, you should provide a reliable source that indicates Jude Schell was in fact a notable gay/lesbian person. Leebo /C 19:09, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

List of gay, lesbian or bisexual people/P-S is only intended for people who already have a Misplaced Pages article, as said in Talk:List of gay, lesbian or bisexual people/P-S#Red Links.. PrimeHunter 21:21, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

New redirect

Will you help me redirect "Miyako Itou" to Miyako Itō, please?

Sure thing, just a second. Leebo /C 20:21, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Done. All you need to do is create the redirect page with the content #REDIRECT ]. See Misplaced Pages:Redirect for more information. Leebo /C 20:24, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

about using wikipedia

how do i post a new article in wikipediaMjb1854 20:23, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

See Misplaced Pages:Your first article and Help:Starting a new page. Note that your account must be at least four days old in order to create a new page. Hersfold 20:25, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure the 4 day wait only applies to moving pages and editing semi-protected pages, and not page creation. Leebo /C 20:27, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

redirect

I'm trying to make a redirect from "Miyako Itou" to Miyako Itō, but if I create it, I'm worried that it may be declined. Can you help me, please?

Miyako Itou already redirects to Miyako Itō in response to the request a couple of sections up. PrimeHunter 21:13, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Protection from Editing

Hello, Can I protect a Misplaced Pages article from being edited ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rhmistry (talk • contribs) 20:30, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Administrators can protect pages, but only in circumstances that meet our protection policy guidelines. See Misplaced Pages:Protection policy. Requests can be made at Misplaced Pages:Requests for page protection. Leebo /C 20:32, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Image identification assistance

Is there any kind of mechanism for assisting editors with identifying the subject of an image? I have numerous high-resolution images of various insects that I'd like to upload to Wikimedia Commons, but I have no idea what the pictures are of. I could upload the image and then request help from WikiProject Arthropods, but I can't provide a descriptive filename without knowing the name of the insect. Also, my primary goal in uploading an image is to improve an existing article ... without knowing the species depicted in each image, I can't make use of the images. Any suggestions? Black Falcon 20:42, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

hmmm,I don't know of such a mechanism, you could try uploading to a free image hosting site like imageshack click the "resize image" checkbox and provide the links to the WikiProject Arthropods talk page for identification, just an idea ▪◦▪≡ЅiREX≡ 21:29, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Side efftects of ICD

I would like to know of any side effects from the implantable ICD? Has there ever been any deaths related to this device.

I would like to know ASAP. Thank you for your time in this matter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.229.175.37 (talk) 21:40, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but we cannot offer medical advice. I'd suggest speaking to your doctor or cardiologist. Hersfold 21:43, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Headline

How do I change the Headline to my entry. I put in a Colon (:) and I dont want it there? Also, is the search function of Misplaced Pages case sensitive? thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by ODYSSEY: Driving Around the World (talk • contribs) 21:51, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean by "entry", but if the colon is on a page, you can edit the page to remove it. If you're talking about your username, you can go to WP:CHU and request a change.

The search function is EXTREMELY case-sensitive, which is why we often have redirects for capitalization mistakes. If what you searched for does not match exactly to a page title, you'll get a bunch of results instead. Hersfold 21:58, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

ODYSSEY: Driving Around the World has requested a user name change to get rid of the colon. Wikilinks are completely case sensitive except for the first character. The "Go" button below the searchbox (which is also activated by Enter) is partly case sensitive and will sometimes not go to an article with other capitalization. The search function on the "Search" button ("GO" also results in search if it doesn't find an article to go to) is not case sensitive. For example, we both have ICE and Ice. A search on "ICE" or "ice" gives the same results with the same order and relevance: Ice hockey is currently the first result with relevance 100.0%, Ice is second with 70.7%, and ICE is 55th with 9.3%. Don't ask me how relevance percentage is computed or what the people who decided or coded it were smoking at the time. PrimeHunter 22:48, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Publishing my article

Dear Sirs,

I have created the article below and wonder how can I make it accessable via the search engines, such as Google?

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=H._E._Eng._Hassaballah_El_Kafrawy&oldid=156136481

Kind regards

A.elkafrawy 21:52, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

The article is immediately available on search engines, although it may not appear immediately due to caching problems on the search engine's part. Hersfold 21:55, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

It's pretty fast but I believe Google and other search engines must first spider this site, find the new page and then catalogue it in its index. In any event, I don't think there is anything you can do to speed up or aid in that process.--Fuhghettaboutit 00:58, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Inactive, Vandalism-only accounts

When I checked "What links to here" of my user page, it came up the talk pages of users whose only edit was the edit was the one I gave them warnings to. That was a few months ago (but in a case it was 3 days ago). Should I let those accounts to rot? --Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 22:10, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Might as well. Most vandals don't come back for a second shot anyway. Hersfold 22:16, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Creation

I want to create an article under the name "Small Talk," but the process is so convoluted that I just can't figure out how to do anything. I can get to sandbox, but I'm ready to write, and I'm done writing random things in the sandbox. Please help —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kev g48 (talk • contribs) 23:25, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

That didn't really help very much. Can you just teach me how to start an article? I've seen all that information so many times, and every time it doesn't get me any closer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kev g48 (talk • contribs) 23:42, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Looking at your contributions, I am guessing that the article you want to create is on the "small talk" subforum at PBNation. Unfortunately, that does not look to be a good prospect for an article. It's possible that PBNation itself has been significantly written about in multiple, independent, reliable sources (which is what is generally required in order to write an article on a topic), but it strikes me as highly doubtful that a subpage discussion forum of that larger website has ever been written about in any detail in any reliable sources. Of course, I may be wrong about this. But please take to heart that standard and only write if the subject meets it.--Fuhghettaboutit 23:47, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Edit Counter Update times?

Greetings,

How often is Interiot's Edit counter (aka Tool1) updated? It seems not to be completely updated to the moment...

Thanks,

Perfect Proposal 00:15, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Tool1 is never updated as it scrapes contributions directly off of Special:Contributions. —] 00:18, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Interiot's counter is based on the toolserver, which has been having server problems for the past few days. According to the site now, MySQL on the database server crashed. Most likely that is the problem. Mr.Z-man 00:21, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

If it is down completely, an alternate quick version (no details, no breakdown, just page count) is available here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/query.php?what=contribcounter&titles=User:YOURNAMEHERE While it is not super-helpful, when nothing else is working, it at least shows the total edit count. (Note that it includes deleted pages/edits that Kate's doesn't, so counts will not match up when comparing the two.) 01:36, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

montmorency football club

I am the website administrator for montmorencyfootballclub.com.au and I went to an effort to put our information on wiki only now to find some narrow minded person has deleted my information with no proof or foundation. They have made themselves wiki police. I am upset as i was not communicated with before this deletion from some"RN" who "Knits". They should find something better to do than delete things they have no knowledge of or rights to do so. I have forgotten my wiki logon Very upset Ed203.12.64.254 00:30, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

It was deleted because most of the text was copied directly fromhere. Misplaced Pages takes copyrights very seriously and text copied directly from another website is a copyright violation. Mr.Z-man 00:44, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Very upset Ed is talking about me. Yes, I am an RN, and yes, I knit.

The article deleted was Montmorency Football Club, which was tagged (not by me, by Whpq) as a copyvio of http://www.sportingpulse.com/club_info.cgi?client=1-3913-48160-0-0&sID=46088&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=3929724&sectionID=46088 . It was tagged on August 30 at around 2200 UTC, and I deleted it as a copyvio about five hours later.

He's welcome to recreate the article in his own words or to follow the procedures at copyright problems to license the site's content under the GFDL. However, he left a personal attack on my webpage, and if he does it again he will be blocked. - KrakatoaKatie 00:51, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

New redirect

Will you please redirect "DOA3" to "Dead or Alive 3" like I've been desiring for months, now? Please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.216.60 (talk) 23:47, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Done: DOA3.--Fuhghettaboutit 23:50, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

If you created an account, you could do it yourself after 4 days. Corvus cornix 16:03, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Why 4 days? Unless I'm very mistaken, page creation requires no waiting period, but now I've seen two people say that it does in the last day. Leebo /C 16:07, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Page creation requires no waiting period, but page move does. This is to avoid move vandalism. Corvus cornix 17:24, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Another redirect

Will you please redirect "DOA2" to Dead or Alive 2? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.216.60 (talk) 00:11, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Done. --Silver Edge 00:17, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Another new redirect

Could you redirect "Totani" to Kōji Totani, please?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.216.60 (talk) 00:41, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Done Totani And please do not put the {{helpme}} request here on this page, that's for use on your own talk pages. Thanks! 00:45, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

merging articles

Could you please merge Ju Ji Hoon with Joo Ji Hoon? I don't know how to merge articles. Sorry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.216.60 (talk) 01:08, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Done. For future reference, that's something that can be done even without an account. The steps are here :) --Moonriddengirl 01:27, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

September 7

shortcut

Is a redirect, when it has to do with Wiki, like a shortcut? 24.14.216.60 01:25, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Sort of, yes, it is usually a common misspelling, pronunciation, or other variant of an article's name, that leads to the most likely article desired. Sometimes, it is not what the person is looking for, and at the top of the article, they will usually find a link to alternate articles with same or similar names, or a link to the disambiguation page to assist them. 01:26, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Yet another redirect

If you ever have time, could you please redirect "Lee Min Gi" to Lee Min Ki? 24.14.216.60 01:26, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Done Lee Min Gi Cheers, 01:30, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

-_- You're done, huh? -_-

Never mind! ♥ Thank you!♥ You know, I feel like I'm making new friends on Misplaced Pages!♥ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.216.60 (talk) 01:30, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Done, please check your talk page for information about signing your posts.

(At the top right, click on 'my talk') Cheers, 01:32, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Citing my sources

Hi, I recently edited an article on Plato, and I was wondering how I can cite my fact. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Schipbob (talk • contribs) 01:39, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

See reliable sources, citation, and citation templates. Hope that helps! 01:47, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Hey, i just tried one of the templates for a book, but i dont know where to insert it. if you would just look on the Plato page under the sub topic, "The State", you will see the problem. please help! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Schipbob (talk • contribs) 02:00, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Fixed. PrimeHunter 02:11, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a bunch, now how did you do that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Schipbob (talk • contribs) 02:13, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

You have to put your references inside <ref>{{Cite web template here}}</ref> tags, without them, it does not work as inline refs. This is explained in the citation page here Hope that helps! 02:16, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Look at the edit link I gave. A template use must end with }}. Citations are usually enclosed in <ref> ... </ref> (there are other methods). Then the software automatically places them in a reference section (if it exists) with links back and forth. See WP:CITE#Footnotes. PrimeHunter 02:20, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Another redirect (almost forgot)

Will you please redirect "Victor and Moritz" to Evil Twins (Crash Bandicoot) and put the article on Evil Twins (Crash Bandicoot) back as an article?

24.14.216.60 02:24, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

New redirect 2

Will you please redirect "Jimmy Lin" to Jimmy Lin Chih Ying? 24.14.216.60 02:45, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Done. {{Helpme}} is for user talk pages. There is no reason to use it here. If you register then you can make redirects yourself. PrimeHunter 03:05, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Induction hob

Dear Sir(s),

I live in Trinidad & Tobago and I am interested in buying an induction hob. Our current here is 110/220 volt 60 Hz. In Holland I am able to buy a hob for Euro 700.00, but it is made for 50 Hz. Since a hob has no moving parts, is it possible to install such a hob here in Trinidad where we have 60 Hz and what are the consequencies? My e-mail address is fariesta@tstt.net.tt or henkklaverweide@yahoo.com – —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.108.11.253 (talk) 03:11, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Please try the Reference Desk. --Boricu æ ddie 03:24, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I wish to delete a photo

I wish to delete a photo that I took and posted. I originally posted it as "Impatiens pallida.jpg". Another user, who feels it's actually a different species renamed it "Impatiens capensis yellow form.jpg" and re-uploaded it. While I disagree with his assessment (as do a botanist I was hiking with when I took the photo, and another online botanist friend of mine), I do not wish to belabor the taxon of this specimen and would prefer it simply be deleted from Misplaced Pages. How can I go about doing this? ++Arx Fortis 05:58, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I am going to give you my best answer, but I've never encountered this, so I am unsure if it's the correct answer. My apologies if I steer you wrong. I hope somebody will come along who knows definitively. It seems from the GNU license posted on the image page that you may not have the right to rescind your permission and request deletion of the file. The GNU license states that "Arx Fortis on the English Misplaced Pages project has granted permission to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license is included in the section entitled "GNU Free Documentation License." Reading that license, it seems that the steps for modification have been properly followed, including explaining the change and crediting you with the original. While the license indicates you do not "assert or imply endorsement of any Modified Version," I think that you may have relinquished the right to object. Nevertheless, there is a deletion process on Commons where you might be able to explain your reasoning and have the image deleted. Here is the policy guiding deletion on commons, and here is the page to request it. I have no idea if such requests are common or how it might be received. Good luck, and, again, I hope somebody comes by who has a definitive answer for you. --Moonriddengirl 12:09, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Two different pages about Jönköping University

Hi!

I represent Jönköping University in this matter.

While checking that information about our University is correct on Misplaced Pages we discovered that there were two pages for it, one called Jönköping University - http://en.wikipedia.org/J%C3%B6nk%C3%B6ping_university (that is the correct one) and one called University College of Jönköping - http://en.wikipedia.org/University_College_of_J%C3%B6nk%C3%B6ping (that is the faulty one).

Because our official english name is Jönköping University we would suggest that the page University College of Jönköping is removed and that Jönköping University links to the swedish page - http://sv.wikipedia.org/H%C3%B6gskolan_i_J%C3%B6nk%C3%B6ping - and the swedish page links to the english one (Jönköping University).

For facts visit http://www.hj.se and http://www.hj.se/eng

If you have any questions in the matter, email me at magnus.palm@hs.hj.se .

Regards
Magnus Palm
Webmaster
Jönköping University
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.10.187.224 (talk) 06:26, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I made the "faulty" page into a redirect of the other one, and merged the information. I also inter-wikied. THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 09:02, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

clearing search history

how to clear search history? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.100.205.102 (talk) 08:15, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

If you are using internet explorer 8, click tools on the menu followed by delete browsing history and the click on delete cookies and it should delete all of your[REDACTED] history --Sunderland06 19:48, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Adding an information box in an academic page

I would like to know how to add the information box that appears on the right hand side of most college and university pages. This box usually has an image of the school's seal and logo, as well as the motto, colors, establishment date, enrollment information, etc. I would like to add this for a school that does not currently have one. Thank you. 71.255.157.141 08:19, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Addition to request above

My apologies for not being more specific in my first submission. The page I would like to add the academic informational box to is for Franklin Pierce Law Center. They already have a page in Misplaced Pages, but I would like to expand on it. Thank you! 71.255.157.141 08:25, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

You can use Template:Infobox School. Just add that template to the article and fill out the required fields. --Silver Edge 09:21, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

You may also want to check out the other infoboxes in Category:Education infobox templates, as there may be a more specific one for this kind of institution. Since it appears to be a law school, Template:Infobox Law School would seem like an appropriate choice. --Pekaje 13:14, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Hiding

Morning all. Just a query - is it possible to hide the section at the top of the page that says what the page is called? Eg this page I am on now says Editing Misplaced Pages:Help desk (comment). Thanks in advance, THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 08:53, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Add the following code to your monobook (User:The dark lord trombonator/monobook.js):

h1.firstHeading { 
   display: none; 
}

Then to finish, bypass your cache by pressing Control + Shift + R (in Firefox). Sebi 09:01, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks... about the monobook... what am I supposed to put in there, other that the code? I've just used whatever default setting is there until now. Oh, and I only want it on one page - does that make a difference? So, it becomes like the Main Page. THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 09:06, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

ATTEMPTING TO ADD PHOTO, TEXT DISAPPEARS!! HELP!!

I was trying to add a photo to the Tiger Stadium (Detroit) page, and at least half the text disappeared. What the heck happened??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by DaBigMotor (talk • contribs) 11:36, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Fixed sort off. One picture does not a gallery make, so I'll revisit and see if it can go somewhere better. Can you give me some more info or a caption for the picture? The reason was that you entered a carriage return after the </ just before the word "gallery" - this broke the markup on the page. It's no big problem - thanks for advising the help desk! Pedro | Chat 12:00, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Further I've moved the image up the page to be more relevant - I see it's from 1968 (ignore my request for a caption I saw your upload comments) so it belongs neatly in the history section. There is another photo there that looks similar but I'll let other editors who know the subject decide if we want one or two images. Please note that you will need to reslove the licence information (as per the automated message on your talk page) or the image will be deleted. Thanks for your contributions to Misplaced Pages, and again thank you for reporting the problem to the helpdesk. Pedro | Chat 12:09, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

hanover, germany

hanover,germany —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.227.177.213 (talk) 12:37, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Do you have a question? :) --Moonriddengirl 12:44, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Hanover, Germany!--VectorPotential 12:48, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Watchlist a page please

Andy Reid (footballer) had BLP vandalism last for a week before I happened by and reverted it. I'd hate to semi-protect it so can a responsible editor please watchlist the page? Thanks a lot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xiner (talk • contribs) 13:05, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't mind watching it. Done. Leebo /C 13:17, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

For your information WP:FOOTY have an article watchlist for situations just like yours. Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Football#Articles that need watching is the link. Woodym555 14:45, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. It's a low-activity page so hopefully it won't burden anyone. Cheers. Xiner (talk) 15:18, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I contributed to an entry or two, but my signature does not appear ---- Why?

I contributed to the entry on model theory, and some others, and I signed my entries. However, my signature (wikisbtr) does not appear. Why is that? --131.151.20.163 13:31, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Because we do not sign our entries. You sign remarks on this page, or on a talk page; but actual articles are a collective document, and are not signed. If you did leave a signature in one, it will have been removed by the next editor who spotted it. Nobody owns an article, or even a passage therein; "If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly... by others, do not submit it". --Orange Mike 13:35, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Right now you are not logged in, and this is your first edit from this anonymous IP address. We can't look at the edits you've made if you don't tell us your previous account or IP address. There is no User:Wikisbtr. Can you tell us what your name was? Leebo /C 13:38, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Do you mean your user name is Wikisbtr ? I can't see that you've created a user name like that . To greate an account just go here. To sign your name on TALK pages (like this one) use for tildes ~~~~. As above, you don't need to sign edits to articles. Pedro | Chat 13:40, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Keep in mind that he may not be familiar with Misplaced Pages jargon, and was possibly referring to something else, like the history page, when using the word "signature". Leebo /C 13:41, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Nevermind, he was talking about the model theory page which he really did sign when contributing as User:WikiSBTR. As Orange Mike said, we don't sign articles. Leebo /C 13:44, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

That must have taken some digging - nice one! Pedro | Chat 13:46, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Spam

How can I stop a spammer from usurping my e-mail address to request that that you send me a new login password for the English Misplaced Pages?

LROS 14:16, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Not sure what you mean when you say "usurping". How could a spammer usurp your email? Leebo /C 14:25, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

It is most likely that someone wants to use the username LROS. So, they keep clicking the "I forgot my password" link and it is sending emails to the current owner of the username LROS. Nobody is usurping anything. -- kainaw™ 14:29, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

You can just ignore them, the password won't get changed unless you actually follow up on the procedure in the email. If you get tired of receiving the emails, you can use your email program's spam filtering mechanisms. Corvus cornix 16:07, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

title

I have recently created a page for Ady Dayman but the top title appears as Ady dayman with the surname all in lower case. How can i edit this to say Ady Dayman with a capital at the beginning? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomharrup (talk • contribs) 14:28, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Fixed by User:Silver Edge. Pedro | Chat 14:35, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
For future use, you can move a page to the correct capitalization. (Directions behind blue text.) :) --Moonriddengirl 14:37, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Just a note that your account must be four days old before you can perform that particular action, so you would need to ask another editor in the meantime if you need to move a page before then. Pedro | Chat 14:42, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Ah, I didn't think to check the age of the account. Thanks for pointing that out, and I'll be mindful of that next time! --Moonriddengirl 12:56, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Biased Article

How to i flag us that an article may be biased and impatial? JP 14:43, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Possibly with {{pov}}, and if it appears that there is a conflict of interest, with {{coi}}. Less obvious cases might better be tagged with {{POV-check}}. You should probably leave a note on the talk page explaining your issue, unless it's extremely obvious. --Pekaje 14:54, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

You can also use the tag {{balance}} at the bottom (or top) of the article. Just click to edit the page and insert the template. Pedro | Chat 14:56, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

bgcolors

I want to change a background color on The Wire page to correspond with the Season 4 DVD box, I noticed they listed the colors as something to the effect of bgcolor="999999", so I wish to change it to a cardinal red type color and need the proper numbers to do so. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Conradege (talk • contribs) 14:50, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I usually go to this site for hexadecimal color codes. However, I'm not clear on what you wish to do. What part of the article do you want to make red? Leebo /C 15:02, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

The hex code you want for pure red is #FF0000 - however per Leebo I think you might want to discuss on the articles talk page or here before changing the background colour of info-boxes or similar. Pedro | Chat 15:19, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Entry not appearing

Hey there, I submitted an entry yesterday for "Waffling" and it never got posted. Did it get deleted for some reason? I believe I followed the instructions properly.

Please let me know. Thanjs —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.150.14.236 (talk) 15:16, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I assume you have a registered account with which you did this, but you are currently logged out. Can you specify your account name or the exact article name? Waffling is a redirect to Waffle (speech) and has been since before yesterday. Leebo /C 15:20, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I see. You went to articles for creation and proposed a different Waffling article. It was rejected with the comment by User:Lucid "We cannot accept unsourced suggestions or sources that are not reliable per the verifiability policy. Please provide reputable, third-party sources with your suggestions. Third party sources are needed both to establish the verifiability of the submission as well as its notability. Leebo /C 15:23, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Entry not appearing part 2

hey... no i'm not a registered user. i thought i had created a new article on waffling but then it didn't appear. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.150.14.236 (talk) 15:25, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I expanded my comment above. You did not create a new article, you proposed an article to registered users, but it was rejected because you did not provide reliable sources to back up the claims you made in the proposal. Leebo /C 15:26, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Homosexual

This is NOT a wierdo speaking. I am serious. I would like to know where I can find out information regarding WHY Homosexual, mainly men-gay men, (I am a 40 yr. old Nurse-Woman) seem to speak like they do. I am interested in finding out WHY most gay men SOUND the same and act in a feminine manner? I am curious, that's all. I am not a wierdo nor do I have any intentions other than finding out WHY? Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.229.178.135 (talk) 16:26, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

This page is for help with using Misplaced Pages. The reference desk is for fact-based questions. Leebo /C 16:30, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Most don't. As to your question, like Leebo said, you can get a more factual answer on the reference desk. -- Kesh 16:58, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

We don't care whether or not you are a weirdo. It's pretty weird to be answering questions on the Help desk for free, so we can't very well be knocking people for being weird here. As to your question, you could start by reading Camp (style). It's difficult to know what "most" gay men do, but presumably the ones you will notice are those who behave differently than you expect men to behave, depending of course on how finely tuned your gaydar is. (Mine seems to be quite poor, or at least it was when a fairly close friend of several years surprised me with his admission. I had no idea, just as I seem nearly devoid of any sense of style.) --Teratornis 18:33, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Heres what appears to be a stupid question

(diff) (hist) . . Talk:Microsoft Excel‎; 16:16 . . (+168) . . The juggreserection (Talk | contribs)

the part in bold, what exactly is that?The juggreserection 16:27, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

You added 168 bytes of content to the article in question. Leebo /C 16:28, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

ahhh...i see.The juggreserection 16:30, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Actually I believe it is 168 characters, I think it was changed a while back. Prodego 22:09, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Malayalam

Is Wikepedia available in malayalam language? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.93.25.114 (talk) 16:34, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

here. :) --Moonriddengirl 16:37, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Requested Username - Successful or Not??

Hi, I requested a username on 5th Sept. I haven't had an email with a password, nor one that says I was unsuccessful.

Who do I go to / what link is provided for me to ask a question as to whether I have been given the requested username or not? Z 87.113.83.27 17:16, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I recently had a username change, one day I just couldn't log in. I logged in with the name I had requested and there it was. I'm sure it will be the same for you. ::Manors:: 17:26, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Which name did you request? Manors, he's not referring to a username change. If it was rejected, it would be listed at Misplaced Pages:Request an account with a rejection reason, probably not emailed to you. Leebo /C 17:30, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi. Presuming that your e-mail server didn't snag a message from Misplaced Pages in some sort of spam protection, the first thing you might want to do is check the logs to see if there was a problem with the username you requested; as Leebo says, from September 5th, it should still be listed at Misplaced Pages:Request an account. You can also look at the creation logs here to see if the username appears to have been created. If it's there, you might be able to generate a new password at the login screen. Otherwise, your best option might be to try again. Good luck. --Moonriddengirl 17:33, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

OK the username has been created but I get the message "Login error: Incorrect password or confirmation code entered. Please try again." when I use the password that I entered on sign-up. I don't have an email with a confirmation code and it hasn't dropped out of my spam box! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.113.83.27 (talk) 17:55, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I have requested a new password "A new password has been sent to the e-mail address registered for "Zaphod B". Please log in again after you receive it". I've looked in my dump email account (specially created for Wiki registration) and NO EMAIL. So it looks like Wiki's system has the wrong email address?

OK - so what do I do now? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.113.83.27 (talk) 18:34, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't see any other options at Help:Logging in than to create a new account. :( --Moonriddengirl 18:40, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

vikipedi

tr:Vikipedi:Danışma masası —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kutu su (talk • contribs) 17:43, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Do you have a question? You seem to refer to the Turkish Misplaced Pages. Note: I inserted a leading : character into your interlanguage link to stop it from placing an improper "in other languages" link on the Help desk page. --Teratornis 18:22, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

OK, I think I see what you were trying to do. You were trying to add a link to the Turkish Misplaced Pages Help desk to the "in other languages" sidebar on the English Misplaced Pages Help desk. (Please confirm my guess, as I cannot read Turkish.) If that is what you were trying to do, we can do that properly. --Teratornis 18:37, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I think that was the intent, as the "English" link on that page is to this Help desk. Leebo /C 18:39, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I added the link: tr:Vikipedi:Danışma masası to the Misplaced Pages:Help desk/Header page. --Teratornis 18:53, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. :) --Kutu su 18:58, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Neah Bay Washington Page

Hello, I'm a Makah indian living in Neah Bay. I have been inspired to add to the pages for Neah Bay. I have ideas about the new memorial Fort for the veterens as well as the Makah Fisheries projects. I may need some help with submitting my updates or additions. I'm now getting some supportive help from my peers Thank you Ray Colby —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.206.232.197 (talk) 17:48, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks for choosing to help out. :) When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. A good starting point for finding assistance might be on the talk pages of the articles you plan to improve, but many of the changes you'd like to make may be easier than you think. Misplaced Pages is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the Edit this page link at the top. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to, especially if you want to create new pages). The Misplaced Pages community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. --Moonriddengirl 17:58, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

InfoBox for Kibbutz (Eng) is too restrictie - need to enhance

How can I update an issue in Misplaced Pages configuration? The template for kibbutzim (English), i.e., {{Infobox_Kibbutz |, is limited and incomplete, it does not have many of the items in the Municipalities template, nor in the Kibbutz template (Hebrew). For instance, there is no means to add and define items such as pushpin map

|pushpin_map            = Israel
|pushpin_label_position = <!-- the position of the pushpin label: left, right, top, bottom, none -->
|pushpin_map_caption    =
|pushpin_mapsize        =135

|timezone               = 
|utc_offset             = 
|timezone_DST           = 
|utc_offset_DST         = 
|latd=32 |latm=59 |lats= |latNS=N
|longd=35 |longm=55 |longs= |longEW=E
|elevation_footnotes    =  <!--for references: use <ref> </ref> tags-->
|elevation_m            = 
|elevation_ft           =

|subdivision_type       = Country
|subdivision_name       = {{ISR}}
|subdivision_type1      = ]
|subdivision_name1      = ]
|subdivision_type2      = Region
|subdivision_name2      = ]

How can Info Box options and behavior be modified? Atleast to equivalent of Hebrew page, if not Municipality Box

Many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by SZAgassi (talk • contribs)

While we are not supposed to edit other people's entries on this page, I added some <pre> tags to format your template code examples in the way you probably intended. What you are asking to do falls into the rather arcane world of template coding. I will look for some references for you. --Teratornis 18:03, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Go to this page: Template:Infobox_Kibbutz to edit the template. ::Manors:: 18:04, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

However, be careful if you are not familiar with template editing. One small mistake could break every page that uses {{Infobox Kibbutz}}. I don't read Hebrew so it may be difficult for me to look up the template(s) on the Hebrew Misplaced Pages that you compare to {{Infobox_Kibbutz}} on the English Misplaced Pages. Given that both Wikipedias use the same MediaWiki software, I would imagine the template coding should be similar. Presumably, you could just copy the wikitext of a template from the Hebrew Misplaced Pages to the English Misplaced Pages, and translate all the field names and values from Hebrew to English. I would guess the MediaWiki markup codes should be the same in both languages (but I don't know that for a fact). If you are new to template programming you may not understand what I'm talking about, in which case your best bet might be to visit WikiProject Israel and ask if ayone there knows Hebrew, English, and MediaWiki template coding. --Teratornis 18:15, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Content Question

I understand that most people will probably already know the answer to this, but I don't. I was viewing the page on wet t-shirt contests and there was an image of a woman in a wet t-shirt. Are wet t-shirt photos considered pornographic or age-restricted? No one I've asked has been able to answer the question.

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.76.128.71 (talk) 18:28, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

This may be a question for the Reference desk, however note that views and laws regarding pornography and obscenity vary widely by location. --Moonriddengirl 18:34, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

That's not really a question that Misplaced Pages would be concerned with. What is pornographic or offensive may differ based on personal feelings or morals. In the case of that article, the image accurately depicts a wet t-shirt contest, so it is encyclopedically appropriate. Misplaced Pages is not censored, so you may occasionally find material that would be restricted on other sites if it is of encyclopedic use here. For instance, pages related to human anatomy are not censored, though such images would usually be restricted. If you want to know if there is an official distinction related to pornography standards, maybe the reference desk users could help. Leebo /C 18:35, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I'll answer it. The article is Wet T-shirt contest, and the picture under discussion is Image:Wet T-shirt.PNG. I don't know if I'd consider that picture pornographic because it does not show naked skin, though I do find it objectionable according to my religious standards. Notwithstanding, it is permitted on Misplaced Pages because Misplaced Pages is not censored. Shalom 18:38, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I decided it was my solemn civic duty as a selfless Wikipedian to review the photograph in question. I regret to report that after extensive scrutiny I cannot decide whether it is pornographic. However, I think I am falling in love. Does the woman in the photo like nerds? --Teratornis 05:20, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

All seriousness aside, if you want a version of Misplaced Pages suitable for children, rather than a version which might inspire the production of more children, see:

Misplaced Pages:Pushing to 1.0#Publishing history
2006 Misplaced Pages CD Selection
2007 Misplaced Pages Selection for Schools —Preceding unsigned comment added by Teratornis (talk • contribs) 06:26, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Broken template?

The {{selfref}} template seems to be broken. It just produces {{{1}}}. Or am I not using it correctly? Are we supposed to add parameters? If so, they should be documented at Misplaced Pages:Template messages/General.--Shantavira| 18:39, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

The usage and documentation is at Template:Selfref. Leebo /C 18:40, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

But basically the documentation says that, yes you need a parameter - the self reference to be avoided. For instance this

{{selfref|The Misplaced Pages Help Desk ]}}

includes this page's link, but the selfref template keeps it from being rendered as one. Instead it renders like this: The Misplaced Pages Help Desk Misplaced Pages:Help desk Alfrodull 18:58, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

The Misplaced Pages:Help desk link renders as bold and non-functional because we're on the Help desk page. You can't link to the page from here. Leebo /C 19:24, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Article marked for deletion?

IS the article for Interactive Intelligence marked for deletion? We have complied with the guidelines - what else can we do. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Interactive Intelligence (talk • contribs) 19:17, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

It is not currently marked for deletion. It is, however, tagged with a notice saying that it is written like an advertisement. I'd suggest you read the following policies: Misplaced Pages:Conflict of interest, Misplaced Pages:Weasel words, and Misplaced Pages:Spam. Cheers, Arky 19:21, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict) We've discussed this. I have deleted the article because it was still advertising. I informed you that it is not appropriate to write an encyclopedia article about your own company. Let uninvolved editors write it if you are notable. Leebo /C 19:22, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

So should I not have created an account and just submitted my information for posting by an unbiased individual. Please explain I find this very confusing. --209.43.1.25 19:39, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

If you want a suggestion, I would recommend that you propose Interactive Intelligence at articles for creation. Please do not concern yourselves (the company) with writing the article. That is not an appropriate means of writing an encyclopedia article. Other companies do not write their own articles (and when they do, the articles are deleted). Leebo /C 19:50, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Articles for creation is for unregistered, anonymous editors. :) Registered users might want to go through Misplaced Pages:Requested articles. --Moonriddengirl 20:48, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, that account shouldn't be used anyway. It's a username violation, but I didn't block it due to the communication here. Leebo /C 20:51, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

user talk: Sunderland06

Am i allowed to delete warnings from my own talk page? --Sunderland06 19:45, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes. See Misplaced Pages:User page#Removal of warnings. --Moonriddengirl 19:47, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

physical geography

–what is the latitude of the vertical direct rays of the sun —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.242.239.119 (talk) 20:00, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

This page is for help with using Misplaced Pages. This looks like a question for the reference desk. Leebo /C 20:03, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

The sun can only be directly overhead if your latitude puts you somewhere between the tropic of Cancer and the tropic of Capricorn. The particular day(s) of the year when the sun becomes directly vertical at zenith would depend on your latitude. See: Circle of latitude#Tropics of Cancer and Capricorn. --Teratornis 23:37, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Listing our firm

I have gone through the help, and it is not clear on how to list our company here.

Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Axisgroup (talk • contribs) 20:09, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

If I were you, I'd take a look at Misplaced Pages:Conflict of interest. Creating a page for your own company is not allowed. Cheers, Arky 20:14, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

If your company meets notability guidelines, you might want to post a request at Misplaced Pages:Requested articles. --Moonriddengirl 20:35, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

From your contribs, it looks like you already at least have an external link at Facade. Alfrodull 21:37, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I "do not have permission" to view main page source, but I can anyway

I guess I don't need "help," really, but I don't know where else to put this.

When I click on "view source" (I'm not an admin) on the main page, it says:

You do not have permission to do that, for the following reasons:

This page is currently protected from editing because it is transcluded in the following pages, which are protected with the "cascading" option enabled:

Main Page/1

Main Page/2

Then is the standard "This page is either protected or semi-protected" spiel, and then is, as usual, the main page's source code in an uneditable gray text box! --zenohockey 21:44, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

You don't have permission to edit the Main Page. By clicking on "view source", you essentially clicked what would be the "edit" tab in unprotected pages. Hence, MediaWiki is telling you that you don't have permission to do that, with "that" being editing the page. You do have permission to see any page's source, though. That said, the wording is quite clumsy. Titoxd 21:51, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Blanked for now, is it used for anything useful? or should it just stay gone? Prodego 21:54, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

That message is MediaWiki:Permissionserrorstext, which appears to be a general message. I wouldn't delete it unless I knew that it wasn't used for anything else. Titoxd 22:00, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I am operating under the principle that there is always going to be a 'because' message below it anyway, so it is redundant under any situation. Prodego 22:05, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

?

Uh, what's "Uncyclopedia?" That must be a pun on "Encyclopedia." More importantly, it sounds like a goofy word. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.216.60 (talk) 21:57, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

See Uncyclopedia. Corvus cornix 22:00, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

It is not only a goofy word but a goofy wiki. For example, instead of a Village pump as we have on Misplaced Pages, they have a Village dump. Good silly fun. --Teratornis 22:57, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

New article

Will you let me know when the article for Risa Hayamizu is ready? I just started that article and I'm hoping for it to be accepted.

24.14.216.60 21:59, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Getting BORED!

When are you going to have the article for Risa Hayamizu ready?!— Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.216.60 (talk • contribs)

Patience, young padawan. ^_^ —] 22:18, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Done. --Boricu æ ddie 22:22, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

human anatomy&physiology

What does the term mean deep? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.79.239.251 (talk) 22:22, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Try the Reference Desk. --Boricu æ ddie 22:27, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

More on Risa

Will you make a redirect for Risa Hayamizu and call it "Lisa Hayamizu" for me, please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.216.60 (talk) 22:25, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Done. --Boricu æ ddie 22:27, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

apology

I'm sorry for accidentally vandalizing wikipedia. Can you forgive me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.216.60 (talk) 22:56, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

For a price. --Teratornis 23:24, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

According to m:Conflicting Misplaced Pages philosophies#Rehabilism we should forgive you if you henceforth strive to edit constructively. The fact that Misplaced Pages deliberately encourages vandalism by allowing anyone to edit reflects a deep faith in the essential goodness of human nature. Or perhaps a deep faith in the power of guilt to motivate former vandals to go straight. Or maybe it reflects nothing in particular. --Teratornis 23:30, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

A deep faith in the power of WP:RCP and WP:BLOCK? -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 23:41, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I forgive you. Go forth and sin no more. For penance, you must do the following:

create a user name for yourself:
do not make any anonymous edits: log in first.
go to Misplaced Pages:Community Portal and check out the "help out" section.
make at least five constructive edits. even trivial spelling corrections count.

If you are a young editor (12 years old or less), then you are an especially valuable resource. You should read the lead paragraph of twenty random articles. If you cannot understand the lead paragraph then the article needs to be improved: edit the article's discussion page to add a comment that the lead section cannot be understood by a 12-year-old.

Welcome to Misplaced Pages. Please help us. We need you. -Arch dude 02:01, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

If you cannot understand what "lead paragraph" means, see: WP:LEAD. Also, I think Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak did some rambunctious things in their days of misspent youth. There wasn't any Misplaced Pages to vandalize back then, I think they sent prank messages by telegraph or was it smoke signals. Historical inaccuracies aside, you'd better shape up because you wouldn't want to end up like those guys. --Teratornis 05:25, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Copyright tag

How do we add a copyright tag to an image which my Allenstone uploaded? I created the image and I want to grant unlimited usage to any and all viewers. My wife took the picture, titled BRANFORD MARSALIS AND RAY REACH 2.JPG. Anyone may use it in any way they wish.

Thank you,

Please answer me at: <removed> —Preceding unsigned comment added by Allenstone (talk • contribs) 23:19, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

If you want to 'grant unlimited usage to any and all viewers' it sounds like Public domain is the license you want. Simply copy and paste the following code into the image description page: {{PD-user|Allenstone}}. You will also be able to remove the code which says {{di-no license}}. Next time, please add a copyright tag to images when you upload them. Misplaced Pages:Upload will help you choose the correct tag before you upload the image. Also, I have removed your address and e-mail from this page to protect your privacy. next time, please sign your messages with four tildes, like ~~~~. This will automatically insert a signature so we can tell who posted the message. Thanks. Raven4x4x 02:01, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I've added a description to the image description page at Image:Branford and Ray.JPG, since that appears to be the version used in the article on Ray Reach. Feel free to correct any part of it. GeeJo ⁄_(c) • 14:48, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

can't add proper citations because most of the article has been removed for lack of citations!

Article: Buddy Sheffield. This is a living person bio. I have cites and references but don't know how to add them and cannot access the full article. Apparently it's been taken down for lack of cites and references. You see the problem. Please advise. Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Libbylibbylibby (talk • contribs) 23:22, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

It's still there in the history. You can access and edit older versions of the page (directions behind bluelink), but be sure not to leave in material that isn't properly sourced with third party verification. With biographies of living people, when in doubt, leave it out. :) --Moonriddengirl 23:28, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

September 8

Article deleted

I submitted an article that was factually correct and it has been deleted. How do I get the article put back on to wikipedia? The article concerned a man named John Kimble. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by LittleReddog (talk • contribs) 01:29, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

The article was probably not notable, he isn't even on the first links on google except the, now deleted, article by you, see . Jeffrey.Kleykamp 01:34, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

There was also consensus to delete the article because of his lack of notability, see Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/John Kimble. Jeffrey.Kleykamp 01:36, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict) :This article has been deleted several times and has now ben protected to prevent its recreation. The discussion that led to its deletion can be found at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/John Kimble. The that it has been deleted and protected by User:Sandahl. If you have reason to believe that he conforms to the Notability guidelines then contact the administrator to see whether he thinks he should be recreated. Woodym555 01:38, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Jude Stringfellow

I am a book editor for a company where author Jude Stringfellow has published three books. I am trying to make her a Misplaced Pages page, but I'm not sure I'm doing it correctly. First of all, I signed up Stringfellow rather than myself not realizing that they wanted MY address, and she accepted the invitation. I didn't know I was making her a page at the time. So it is under jstringfellow. I would like that fixed so she is not the one making the page.

I wish to add her to your site. She is an author and national key-note speaker. I wish to do this correctly. Please go to the area and see if I am doing it correctly. If I am, please post it. I would also like to add her biography sections such as her date of birth, things like that, but don't know how. Thanks. You can write me at: email redacted —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jstringfellow (talk • contribs) 01:57, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

As you state you are an editor in the company that publishes her, you should read our conflict of interest guidelines. As for writing a biography on her, be sure she satisfies our notability policy and guidelines on biographies of living persons.

Someone else may be able to explain how to get the account name changed, or it may be better to just create a new account of your own. -- 68.156.149.62 12:43, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

You need to cite third-party references for everything you've said in the article. Nothing there is backed up by sources, and it sounds like a press release. -Wooty 00:44, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

US Petrochemical

I created a page for US Petrochemical and it was deleted twice.

I listed it in the name of Houston Companies. It was not spam and it was in the same category of the other companies listed amongst Houston Companies. If this was spam why is Wikipidia not deleting the other companies? And as a Energy Trading Company it had more relevance to the Houston economy exporting millions of dollars of products from refineries in Texas and creating jobs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 1hotrod (talk • contribs) 02:48, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Please see Why was my page deleted?.-- 68.156.149.62 12:35, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Looking into it further, the article was first deleted as spam, then deleted again with the note: Speedy deleted per (CSD a7), was an article about a company or corporation that didn't assert the importance or significance of its subject. This means your article did not show how the company satisfies our notability policy, more specifically the guidelines at WP:CORP. -- 68.156.149.62 12:40, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

research

Im trying to find who to ask about why my additions to a page keep getting deleted though it is factual and documented information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaipate (talk • contribs) 03:19, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I assume you mean the addition of Jai Pate to September 15. The page is intended for people considered notable by Misplaced Pages. There are only 15 Google hits on "Jai Pate". See also Misplaced Pages:Conflict of interest before making edits about yourself. PrimeHunter 03:31, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

In general, when adding people to a list such as that, it's expected that they have existing articles on Misplaced Pages. Please also make sure that the person you are adding is notable and the the information you are adding is confirmed with reliable sources. Hersfold 03:31, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

That's funny, why didn't that get an edit conflict? Hersfold 03:32, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

On a side note, if you want to be wished a happy birthday on your birthday by fellow editors, I'd suggest you take a look at the Birthday Committee's page and add yourself to their calendar. Cheers, Arky 03:36, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Adding rows to existent tables

How do you add a row to an already existent table? (For example, if I want to add an episode to the episode guide of The Suite Life of Zack and Cody, how do I do it. I've been using the keyboard codes and shortcuts the exact same way they are in the previous rows, but it gets messed up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Crocketmeow (talk • contribs) 03:19, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

You use:
|-
|
to do what you want, adding the content after the "|" Prodego 03:23, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Problem getting latest version of uploaded JPG to load in articles

I have been creating charts for various pages related to polling data for the upcoming U.S. Presidential election. For example, see: Mitt_Romney_presidential_campaign,_2008#First_Six_Republican_Primaries_and_Caucuses.2C_plus_California_and_New_York. Right now, using my Firefox browser, for Iowa and South Carolina, a previous version of the image appears in the article, but when you click into the images themselves, they clearly reflect the most recent upload. Is anyone else able to reproduce this problem on their browser? I tried clearing my cache and refreshing the page several times. --Rpilaud 05:54, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Check it now. I purged the servers and I think it's working now. Hersfold 06:03, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I got around the problem by changing 700px to 701px for each image, but that's a lot more work than I should have to do to get it to recognize a change to an image. I appreciate the purge, but I don't think that fixed it. So that an example still exists, I will revert the above link back to 700px to show an example.--Rpilaud 06:10, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I think your problem may be your browser cache. I've had that happen numerous times, and it can be quite frustrating. Try the instructions here (if this is a regular problem, this extension may come in handy). In very rare cases it can be almost impossible to purge an image thumbnail cache from the Wikimedia servers, but I have found that a null edit on the image description page can do the trick. --Pekaje 09:37, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I've tried clearing the cache, making the cache 0MB, purging the page using ?action=purge, loading in a different browser, a dummy edit and a null edit and nothing seems to be updating the image. Is anyone else having the same problem? That is, when _you_ load the page, do you see the pink line showing data for Undecided voters? --Rpilaud 01:06, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Fixed it for at least one of them. I actually had to purge the thumbnail itself. In Firefox you can do this by right-clicking the image, selecting "View Image", and appending ?action=purge to the thumbnail cache URL. Tedious, but very occasionally necessary. --Pekaje 13:52, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Pictures on this site is not being able to see on webpages

sir,

The pictures on webpage is not visible

please reply me why is it so

07:51, 8 September 2007 (UTC)07:51, 8 September 2007 (UTC)07:51, 8 September 2007 (UTC)07:51, 8 September 2007 (UTC)07:51, 8 September 2007 (UTC)Udaymani

I'm seeing pictures fine. What problem are you having? KTC 07:59, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

it may be because of lots of things, say if you are using shared or networked computers were the administrator has blocked images in wikipedia, or you might have blocked them yourself by right clicking on an image and choosing "block images from wikipedia.org", however I am not aware of the solution, try another computer maybe?, check if any who runs your pc hasn't blocked images on wikipedia?.--Kerotan Have a nice day :) 08:01, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Edit Conflict on article

I was looking at recent changes and this person started editing Visual kei, they made big changes which deleted all the references. I reverted back, but they don't agree, so i'd like to get someone else to look at this please. Thanks. Phgao 08:21, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I have dealt have with it. see this diff: —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kerotan (talk • contribs) 08:32, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! Phgao 08:37, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, they will not stop. I'm not sure what to do. http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Visual_kei&diff=156447178&oldid=156445997 Phgao 08:43, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

SUSTAINABLE LOGGING

I am looking for some peer reviewed articles on sustainable tropical forest logging 2007 , and am unable to find any, could you help please —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.137.233.136 (talk) 09:28, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Google Books

How do we feel about adding Google Books links to footnotes? See this edit, for example. It looks to be done in good faith, and I can see it might be useful: but presumably it should be something we do consistently across Misplaced Pages or not at all. That's why I'm asking for a second opinion here at the help desk rather than seeking a more local consensus on the article's talk page. Anyone have any thoughts? AndyJones 09:46, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Seems incredibly helpful to me. Kappa 11:48, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough. I won't touch it, and we'll see what others make of it. AndyJones 12:12, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Now I'm just lost

OK, so I was instructed to paste some kind of code into my monobook to get the title of each page NOT showing up. Following instructions at WP:MONOBOOK, I attempted but did not succeed. This is probably a good thing, as I do not want the title of all pages to go away, just one particular one (a user subpage of mine). I am attempting to recreate the Main Page, and it would be nice if we could make the title go away. Can anyone help me with this? Heck, is this even the right place? THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 10:34, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I think your best bet to get a definitive answer is to ask at Misplaced Pages:Village pump (technical).--Fuhghettaboutit 14:45, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

war

why are showing something about how poeple died from a mistake about to much fuil will guss what I bet right now some man is fight for every one's right to be free and, your talking about that men that just died becouse of to much fuil.Will men die for our fredom. How would you Like it if you would have died for our fredom and now body carse becouse, men died from to much fuil. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.196.181.15 (talk) 11:54, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

This is a page for questions about how to use Misplaced Pages, not a soapbox. -- 68.156.149.62 12:48, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Uploading pictures

Can I upload a picture onto Misplaced Pages just to use it in another site or does it have to be for an article? NFreak007 13:34, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages is not image hosting service, images should be used in articles, even if these articles are user pages. try photobucket.--Kerotan Have a nice day :) 13:49, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Alternatively, provided the images have some potential use, and aren't just snaps you took of friends at a party, for example, you may wish to upload them at Wikimedia Commons. Make sure to be clear about your choice of licence, and add it to any categories you believe to be relevant. GeeJo ⁄_(c) • 14:57, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted Page

After spending 3 hours making a page on Pi-Con, the largest sci-fi con in my area, I find that it has been completely deleted without a trace. There was some notice about non-notability, which is ridiculous. Pi-Con is the largest convention in the area! How can it be non-notable? I did what it said with the hold on tag and the explanation on the talk page, but still poof, three hours of work gone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fireheart (talk • contribs) 14:34, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Did you create the page under a different username? Because your account has never edited an article named Pi-Con. -- 68.156.149.62 14:42, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted pages do not appear on that list. If you look at User talk:Fireheart, you'll see the notice of speedy placed on it. :) --Moonriddengirl 14:46, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

D'oh. I never noticed that deleted pages are gone from contributions. Thanks! -- 68.156.149.62 15:24, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Not a problem. Confused me the first time I ran into it. :D --Moonriddengirl 15:25, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry. Having put many an hour into Misplaced Pages projects myself, I can well imagine how frustrating that must be. :( I'll note that an article on Pi-Con has been deleted twice, today and several months ago. The deletion log for today indicates there was no assertion of notability made within the article. I can't access the text, so I don't know if you made an assertion of notability that qualifies per the guideline on notability (organizations and companies). If you feel like trying again, maybe you'd like to seek feedback at the drawing board before posting it? Good luck. --Moonriddengirl 14:44, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Fireheart, would you like me to restore the article to your userspace where we can help you work on it until it's ready to go to the encyclopedia? Leebo /C 15:01, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

That's a nice offer. :) --Moonriddengirl 15:04, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I guess Fireheart would want that anyway... It's at User:Fireheart/Pi-con. Leebo /C 15:11, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Articles must assert notability outside your "area". A local coffee bar may be the biggest in my area but it has no significance outside it. Misplaced Pages is not a local directory. Asserting notability with third-party sources is the best way to keep your article from being deleted. -Wooty 00:39, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

request to block/delete a user account

Hi,

I would like to request the immediate cancellation/deletion of the account "dyjodee" and, if possible, the reversal of any edits that were made using this account. This account was created by my 10-year-old nephew, Stephen, without my knowledge. With it, he has spoofed my identity on this site and has even put up my personal information. While some of the updates that he has made may be factual, like any child, he has an overactive imagination and often makes up stories and writes them on this site as facts.

I sincerely apologize to you and to your site visitors for any inconvenience this may have caused. I'm hoping for your prompt action on this matter.

Thanks and best regards, —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dyjodee (talk • contribs) 14:48, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

You signed using that account. Is this a joke? Jeffrey.Kleykamp 14:55, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm sure any of the inappropriate content has already been handled, so there is nothing else to do. Accounts are not deleted. Leebo /C 15:03, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Note that the questioner explicitly states that it was this account. The thrust is that the personal information at User:Dyjodee is not about the user who created the account, but their aunt. To Dyjodee, while we can't delete the edits to Mainspace articles (provided they weren't offensive or revealed personal information) due to the terms of the GFDL~~, you can ask an admin to delete the account's Userpage by placing {{db-user}} on User:Dyjodee, which will remove your personal details from view. The account will remain, but~~ if you (for example) scramble the password in Special:Preferences, your nephew will be unable to use the account in future. GeeJo ⁄_(c) • 15:06, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Gone ahead and deleted the Userpage, and left a note on the User's talk page about possible further steps. GeeJo ⁄_(c) • 15:20, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

To Jeffrey, no this is not a joke. I chanced upon this page while surfing and asked for the password from my nephew, since I don't have an account myself. Thanks GeeJo and Leebo for the info. I'll do as you suggested and scramble the password.

wikitable sort

Why are only the first 3 columns sorting at List of Chicago Marathon Winners?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 15:14, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

The problem appears to be the following line in the table:

|-
| 1987 || colspan=3|ran as half marathon || colspan=3|No Marathon

When I deleted that line in the table and previewed it, all the table columns became sortable. I guess the table sorting code does not deal gracefully with colspan modifiers. This might constitute a bug worth reporting, or perhaps someone already reported it, in case anyone cares to check. --Teratornis 15:26, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I should probably point out that I did not save my edits to the table after I previewed the effect of deleting that line. The table, and its sorting problem, remain as before. --Teratornis 16:18, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I will get to it during the week.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 21:10, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Japanese characters

Where's the page on Misplaced Pages to request that an article have Japanese characters added? The article in question is Kosei Ono. Thanks in advance, and please reply on my talk page. --Montchav 15:53, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

See the entries in the Editor's index under the "Japan/Japanese" heading just below WP:EIW#J. --Teratornis 16:25, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

How do I contribute to Wikiquote?

I wish to contibute to Wikiquote for the article about the film Tears of the Sun. How do I do this?Rickhavoc1 17:11, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Go to *English Wikiquote, open an account and have fun.--Thw1309 17:16, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

can someone fix the edouard manet page for me??

Something is going wrong with my browser (at least that's what I'm assuming is happening), and it is cutting off the text of[REDACTED] articles when i open them with the edit button. I keep accidentally deleting huge chunks of teh Édouard Manet article and now I can't put it back because I can't open the entire article in the edit function to revert it. I'm at a public computer so I don't really care about troubleshooting, but I do want to undo the damage I've done. Calliopejen1 17:22, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Ideally, could you put it back to the 17:08 version? :) Calliopejen1 17:23, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Done by Etacar11 (talk · contribs). Cheers, Arky 17:44, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Help

hello i need some help please im at college and have been set and assignment i dont need help finding the information but i have found the page i need within this site and i need to write who maintains the website but were abouts do i find this information on the website please could you email back to <email removed for security>

thanks you chelsey —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.64.24.69 (talk) 18:04, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages is maintained by the Wikimedia Foundation, but the foundation does not have an active role in writing the articles - the act of writing and updating the articles is left to the users of the site. If you have a question about the article, you can leave a comment on the article's talk page, which you can get to by clicking the "discussion" tab at the top of the article. Hersfold 18:21, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Go to the article you're wanting to cite. On the left hand side of the page is a link that says Cite this article. Click on that link and you'll get a page with all the information you need to properly cite the article. Note, however, that most teachers will not accept Misplaced Pages as a source. You're better off looking at the References section on the article and citing from those. -- 68.156.149.62 18:37, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

My Photos / Would like to Contribute

I would like to contribute some of my own photographs to Misplaced Pages to enhance an article. How do I this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.28.107.221 (talk) 19:09, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Go to the Wikimedia Commons, create an account, and upload them there. You can then access them using the same syntax as images on Misplaced Pages: ]. --Max Talk (+) 19:26, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Make sure to upload them under an appropriate licence, or the image may well be deleted shortly after you upload it. GeeJo ⁄_(c) • 00:45, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

redirected to malicious website

just a few minutes ago i was looking at the info on vanessa hudgens and was redirected to a winvirusscan site which tried to download crap onto my computer. what pracctices are in place to protect against these attacks? i think the info on vanessa hudgens needs to be disinfected. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dwrogers77 (talk • contribs) 20:02, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

What article exactly were you on, this one? Were you on Misplaced Pages or a mirror site, or did you click on a link at the bottom of the page or a reference? Also, was the redirect inside the window, or was it your own virus scan software downloading an update as virus scan software does occasionally? Jeffrey.Kleykamp 20:16, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

The only way that could happen is if you clicked on an external link that had the malicious material. It wouldn't happen while you viewed the Misplaced Pages page unless you already have some kind of virus that would do that. When clicking on external links, you should be aware that they are not under Misplaced Pages's control. Leebo /C 20:21, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

dang...yes, it was that one. I was on Misplaced Pages, and i think it was indeed an external link. i guess it was another reminder to be extra careful when i'm on the internet. no harm done, at least my firewall and security suite software didn't pick anything up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dwrogers77 (talk • contribs) 14:59, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Help with tables

Can someone help me with this: User:Hdt83/Sandbox. I want to move the user boxes to the right of the userpage section and its baffling me why its not working properly. Thanks in advance. --Hdt83 21:13, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Tamao Satō (related) questions

About new article

Will you please let me know when he article on Tamao Satō is ready, that is, if it is accepted, of course?

24.14.216.60 19:40, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Pardon me if this sounds blunt, but there's nothing stopping you from checking, correct? It's not really the help desk's job to watch pages for you and tell you what happens. Also, I see you constantly requesting for help desk users to create redirects or check on your requested articles; Why don't you create an account? Then you can do all of this without coming to otherss for help. Leebo /C 19:49, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

About new article again

I had put sources on the article I started. Why did you decline it anyway? 24.14.216.60 20:38, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Please do not use the {{helpme}} template here, that is for use on your talk page. Your article was declined, as explained in the submission entry, because it did not have reliable, third party sources. Sources such as personal websites or fansites/blogs are not generally considered reliable, and are not third-party sources. Please review the above guideline to fully understand this. Thanks, 20:58, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Need help

I can't seem to creat an article on Tamao Satō without it being declined. Can someone help me?

Anonymous user, if you propose the Tamao Sato article again after it has been declined with the same submission, you may be blocked for a short period. Your actions are disruptive; please read what people are telling you. Leebo /C 21:09, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Getting angry

I've been trying to creat an article on Tamao Satō, and it has been declined twice, now. You probably are refusing to accept even though it has a source, right?! RIGHT?!

If it is not accepted this time, I'm going to get angry! 24.14.216.60 21:33, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

It's actually been declined 3 times. Twice is too many anyway. It doesn't have a reliable source. Anime News Network is not enough to sustain an article on its own. Leebo /C 21:39, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

You can get angry all you like, but it's not affecting the fact that no reliable, third party source have been provided with the entries everytime it's been submitted. Read why it's been declined, address the problem, then submit it again. Not submitting the same thing every single time, and wondering why it keep getting declined. KTC 21:43, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Speaking of

Speaking of being blocked for a short period, that probably means I'll be blocked from editing temporarily, right?

24.14.216.60 21:35, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, read why it's being rejected and talk to the user who rejected it. We here at the Help desk can't help with that, it's not our collective decision. Leebo /C 21:37, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Explainations for trying to create article

I've been trying to create an article on Tamao Satō, because I only want to support Misplaced Pages. Why do you keep rejecting it? :( —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.216.60 (talk) 21:40, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Please stop creating new threads for the same discussion. You've been told why it was rejected. Because you provided one source, Anime News Network, which is not reliable enough to sustain a whole article. Leebo /C 21:41, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Getting upset

Well, if you're not going to accept my article, then I guess I won't be creating articles anymore! But if there are like a million articles being vandalized, don't come crying to me! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.216.60 (talk) 21:42, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

It is being rejected because it dosen't have enough reliable sources. Anime News Network is not enough to establish notability. More reliable 3rd party sources are needed to establish notability. --Hdt83 21:43, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

There's no reason to get upset. Listen to us and talk. Use the existing discussion instead of starting a whole new thread. Leebo /C 21:45, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

.......

I guess someone else will have to create the article Tamao Sato for me. It is probably no use if I tried to crate it, because I found some info on her website, too, and if you won't accept Anime News Network as being the only source, fine! Because it said to include at least 1 source! Maybe you don't want me creating articles anymore!

If that's true, then fine! But don't yell at me if you end up having a bankrupt because of little support!

24.14.216.60 21:46, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

We do want you to create articles, but Misplaced Pages will not go bankrupt from not having new articles. Misplaced Pages receives money from fundraising, not directly from article creation. Leebo /C 21:49, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

The English Misplaced Pages is not the only wiki you should consider. If you read and write Japanese, see if the Japanese Misplaced Pages wants the article, or already has one on this topic. If the Japanese Misplaced Pages has such an article, with adequate sources and so on, you could translate it to the English Misplaced Pages. If you do not speak Japanese, try another wiki that is not part of the Wikimedia Foundation. See: wikiindex:Category:Anime; for example, you could try Anime Wiki. Many wikis that specialize in a particular topic accept articles in their topic area with fewer hassles than you get on Misplaced Pages. --Teratornis 22:42, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I have a question

Does the Internet Movie Database count as a third-party reliable source? I'm not very sure whether or not it is, because I'm trying to start the article again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.216.60 (talk) 21:54, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

The IMDB is alright, but it's not entirely reliable. More sources would be needed than just ANN and IMDB. Sorry if this is frustrating, but new articles should be held to high standards too. Leebo /C 21:56, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

It should also be noted that some of the content on IMDB can be edited by anyone once they create an account. AngelOfSadness talk 21:57, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

The same is true of ANN, which is why it's also not considered reliable for some things. News articles are different from the fan-edited encyclopedia pages. It would be like using Misplaced Pages as a source. Leebo /C 21:59, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

As mentioned, since anyone can edit IMDB, they do tend to (quite often) add false/unsubstantiated/unverifiable information to IMDB. Because Misplaced Pages is based on verifiable information, IMDB is not considered a WP:RS, however, Misplaced Pages has a template to add an actor/film's entry from IMDB to the external links. The template is: *{{imdb name | id=number | name=First Last}} (You must go to IMDB and look up the item's ID number yourself). Hope that helps

TVRAGE

Is TVrage a reliable source? Can you list all of the reliable third-party sources? Please? 24.14.216.60 22:01, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure about TVrage, but listing all reliable third-party sources would be impossible. That list would include just about every newspaper and online news organization. I recommend you read Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources if you want info on what makes something a reliable source. Leebo /C 22:07, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Check out the many links in the Editor's index under: WP:EIW#Source. This one looks interesting, but not necessarily relevant to the question:

Top 500 external websites to which Misplaced Pages links

--Teratornis 22:32, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

More to say

I try not to do anything wrong, and I want to help you.

24.14.216.60 22:35, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

See: WP:WWMPD#If all else fails, try another wiki. As I mentioned above, please see: wikiindex:Category:Anime; for example, you could try Anime Wiki. Many wikis that specialize in a particular topic accept articles in their topic area with fewer hassles than you get on Misplaced Pages. You can develop your anime articles on Anime Wiki, probably with less fear that they will be deleted while you are still working on them. Later you can ask us to look at them over there, and we can tell you when they are ready to meet Misplaced Pages's requirements. Everybody wins. Anime Wiki runs on the same MediaWiki software as Misplaced Pages, so you only have to learn one wikitext markup language. --Teratornis 22:48, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

If you had an account, which I've been encouraging you to do this whole time, you could create articles yourself in your userspace and move them to the encyclopedia when they're ready. You haven't said why you won't create an account though. Leebo /C 22:51, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Should I create Tamao Sato article another day? I mean, those were the only sources I could find. 24.14.216.60 22:56, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I have an idea! How about a wiki user creates Tamao Sato for me? :) 24.14.216.60 23:01, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Please, respond by clicking the link next to "More to say". Why dont' you want to create an account? Leebo /C 23:03, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

You might have to wait until you have reliable third party sources for those sources. A lot of the content with those sources was made by fans so it's a mixture of fact, fiction, and rumours(original research if you will). Creating the article tomorrow(let's say) will be pointless if you don't have reliable third party sources. AngelOfSadness talk 23:04, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Are you talking about this Tamao Sato? As you can see, DramaWiki already has a brief article about her. Why don't you make an account on DramaWiki and edit her article there? Then we can see it and advise you on what it would need to meet Misplaced Pages's standards. --Teratornis 23:09, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Sources

I couldn't find any reliable cources for Tamao Satou, so someone else will have to create the article for me either way.

24.14.216.60 23:18, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I'd encourage you to review the notability guideline for people. Most of the time, if an actress is notable enough, there will be at least a few news articles, reports, etc., about the person. Unfortunately, not all actresses would fit into Misplaced Pages's notability guideline, and as such, may not be appropriate for Misplaced Pages. However, there are several other "wiki" type sites given to you above that you can create an account on and create an article about her there. (Note that I have no idea how notable this Japanese actress is, I'm merely speaking generally.) Cheers! 23:22, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

This is getting a little irritating, so I'm just going to help do the research instead of telling this person to do it with reliable sources. This is all I've found so far:

Tamao Sato interview in Metropolis magazine

Leebo /C 23:36, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Irritating? After only a dozen rehashes? The Google test results depend on the spelling:

google:Tamao Satou 857 for Tamao Satou
google:Tamao Sato 57,800 for Tamao Sato

Are we discussing Tamao Satou or Tamao Sato? Are these two different people, or two spellings of the same person? (A Japanese name may not have a distinct English counterpart for all I know.) The latter appears to be much more notable. One would think an actress with 57,800 Google hits would be notable enough for an article here. --Teratornis 23:42, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

They're the same person. The correct spelling for romanization would be Tamao Satō. Leebo /C 23:45, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for clearing that up. I could have figured it out by looking at the photograph of "Tamao Sato" in the Tamao Sato interview in Metropolis magazine. (The various articles suggest she is a no-talent actress who makes it on her looks and willingness to work a lot. And she seems to be the actress most hated by Japanese women. She sounds like a Japanese version of Jessica Simpson.) She seems to be notable enough in Japan but is probably not known to many English speakers, since an actor probably needs some talent to go international. I would imagine she has an article on the Japanese Misplaced Pages already, but I have no idea how to search for her article there. --Teratornis 00:00, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Notability is not really bound by nationality. If she's notable enough for the Japanese Misplaced Pages, where she does in fact have an article ja:さとう珠緒, then she's notable enough for an article here. Leebo /C 00:08, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I just had an idea for a reality TV show. Jessica Simpson and Tamao Satō trade places, then we see if either of the lightheaded lovelies harms the other's career while coping with the resulting culture shock. --Teratornis 00:15, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

That's a great idea. Maybe when it airs, it will have a[REDACTED] article aswell :D AngelOfSadness talk 00:17, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Dictionary

Do you have a dictionary here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.36.150.176 (talk) 21:51, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

See Wikitionary. --Hdt83 21:52, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict) No, not here at Misplaced Pages, but there is Wiktionary. Leebo /C 21:53, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Also try the "define:" option in Google Search. For example: google:define:dictionary. And see: WP:DICT. --Teratornis 22:34, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

This is also a helpful website. --Thε Rαnδom Eδιτor (tαlk) 22:54, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

How do I change an article?

Hi. I'm working on some changes for the entry "Baku (spirit)" and do not know how to proceed. Please see my user page for who I am.

How does one make those changes? I have rewritten the article offline, using the original material plus a good deal more material including references, links, and several subheadings. Now, normally, I would simply highlight what I want to change on the edit page for the article and paste in the new material. But that seems to be some sort of no-no.

Second, since I am not a Wikipedian (I'm a subject matter expert, not a Wiki-lawyer), I don't have any idea how to format the references, subheadings, links, and so on. So I need some help with that.

Third, I could include some images -- in fact, I think they're necessary -- but no matter what copyright policies for Wiki might say, I personally believe that including these images DOES violate copyright. So what should I do?

Timothy Perper 23:35, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

How about you put your version of the article at User:Timothy Perper/Baku (spirit) so we can look at it and help format it. Just click that link and paste what you've got. It's your userspace. Leebo /C 23:38, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

accounts

I know you want me to create an account, but I don't know how to do that, and I don't know if my parents will let me! What if I have to remember a specific password?!

24.14.216.60 23:38, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I'll help you. I don't think your parents would mind you having an account, since you don't have to give any personal information, not even an email address. Click here, pick a username and a password that you can remember. It doesn't have to be really complicated, make it something you would think of. Leebo /C 23:43, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

However, you should ask your parents first anyway, since we cannot safely speak for them. --Teratornis 23:54, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Also remember that while there are a number of additional tasks you can perform with an account, you're perfectly free to continue to contribute anonymously. GeeJo ⁄_(c) • 00:48, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, Ariel♥Gold!

Thank you, Ariel♥Gold! You're the best! :)♥♥♥♥

24.14.216.60 23:41, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

We all know Ariel is great, but this isn't really an appropriate thread for the help desk. Take it to User talk:ArielGold if you want. Leebo /C 23:48, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Heh, not sure what I did, but Leebo seems to have done some excellent sleuthing and found some good sources, resubmit to WP:AFC using those, with a link here, and it should be approved. Cheers! 00:07, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Sources

Leebo, Tamao Satou and Tamao Sato are the exact same person. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.216.60 (talk) 23:45, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I know that, and that's what I said above. I didn't ask that question. Leebo /C 23:47, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

September 9

SNL Celebrity Jeopardy

I recently encountered the page for SNL Celebrity Jeopardy while going through wikipedia. I noticed that there is a section that lists the episodes and the name of each character in portrayed in them. Missing was 'Turd Fergusson,' an assumed name used as a gag by Burt Reynolds in one of the episodes. This name should of course be noted parenthetically. So, I made the edit and found an admin warning directing me to the talk page.

The talk page, in large part, consists of numerous users arguing with the admin about this issue. They want the Turd Fergusson edit, he doesn't. They have made the Turd Fergusson eidt, he has deleted it.

Throughout the talk section, he fails to produce a logical reason why this information should not be included in the episodes section. His main talking-point for me has been that the name was mentioned 'only' four times in the episode, and that other gags are mentioned more frequently in the series. This entirely missess my point. Since the 'episodes' section lists the charatcers' names it should also, parenthetically, list this assumed name. So what if they did a different sort of gag more times, those gagas don't concern the characters' name and hence, if listed, would not be listed under 'episodes.'

I beleive this admin (Croc) is opposing the user consensus and vandalizing the page he is obstensibly suppsoed to admin. As such, I would like him reprimanded and/or removed by the real[REDACTED] adminsitration. I would like the REAL[REDACTED] editors to review the article and talk pages. I have posted links below for your connvenience:

http://en.wikipedia.org/Celebrity_Jeopardy%21_%28Saturday_Night_Live%29#Episodes

http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Celebrity_Jeopardy%21_%28Saturday_Night_Live%29 - in particular note item # 19.

For the moment he has kept the 'Turd Fergusson' edit pending further discussion. However, he has sent me a threatening message claiming that I am engaged in an aggressive 'edit war.' I reject that idea since I hold that he is vandalizing the page by reverting my edit. 141.166.224.83 14:23, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Question

Am i allowed to remove vandalism warnings, copyright image notices, etc, from my user talk page? User:Yamakiri user has threatened to permanently protect my user talk page so that i cant edit it. Can i remove copyright image notices at least? i hope you see this soon. thx Modelun88 00:23, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Getting of tired of going behind him... Anyways, he's removed block notices, and I'm not an admin so I just requested that his page be protected and that he get a block. P.S. he's copied and pasted this on quite a few pages now.Yamakiri 00:41, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

It's not against policy to remove warnings from ones own talk page. While archiving is preferred, removing such notices is permitted. — Timotab 00:47, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Users are allowed to remove warnings, please see Misplaced Pages:User page#Removal of warnings. On the other hand, users are not allowed to make threats, please see Misplaced Pages:Talk page guidelines#Behavior that is unacceptable. -- Rick Block (talk) 00:47, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I do not beleive that was a threat, I said that I was going to report him and get a RPP on his talk. Anyways it's been sorted out now. Since I couldn't do that how is it a threat? Yamakiri 21:18, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Userbox

How do you make userboxes?Kitty53 00:44, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

WP:Userboxes should tell you all you need to know about making userboxes. AngelOfSadness talk 00:46, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I'd like to report an article.

I want to report an article as being false and kindly request that it be removed. The Satanic Ritual Abuse article ( http://en.wikipedia.org/Satanic_abuse ) is fueled by far fetched propaganda. In actuality, Satanists are essentially atheists with more structure and Darwinistic values. Rituals are viewed purely as psychodrama - a way for one to stimulate the mind and achieve a desired effect catered to the individual. No magic, no blood, no cannibalism, no sexual abuse and so on and so forth. They are rarely performed in a group, only when the number of people have the same interest. There is no real purpose to ritual, it is meant to be a fun activity with no harm done to anyone. My information comes from my own relations with Satanists, not my personal beliefs. My motivation to request that you remove this article is that it is perpetuating a skewed view of Satanism and furthering the lies promoted by such propaganda. Those who actually wish to research Satanism are often deterred by articles like this one because of the lies it promotes. Satanism is so feared because of the insultingly vast amount of articles like this one. Please do me, and the Satanists who may have been appalled by that text this service and remove that article. Thank you for your time.

I would appreciate an email with your decision. My email address is as follows:

-Morgana —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fmb426 (talk • contribs) 00:52, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

As long as an article has references and is notable it has a right to be on Misplaced Pages, at the most you could argue that the article doesn't have a neutral point of view (in which case you should post it on the talk page or maybe change it yourself, that is if you don't have a conflict of interest and are up to rewriting it into a neutral article). Also, why should we e-mail a decision when we can answer here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeffrey.Kleykamp (talk • contribs) 01:24, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your suggestion regarding Satanic Ritual Abuse. When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Misplaced Pages is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the Edit this page link at the top. The Misplaced Pages community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). :) We do ask that you provide sources for new information and discuss potentially controversial changes on the article's talk page in order to help reach consensus. If an item is sourced with a reliable source and you have an equally reliable source that presents a different view, it is policy to provide balance rather than to choose one. Misplaced Pages strives for neutrality, which can be hard to achieve if the topic is one about which you feel strongly. And please remember to explain your actions in your edit summaries.:) --Moonriddengirl 01:17, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I'd be interested in seeing some sources showing the existence of this atheistic satanism movement you speak. As a lifelong atheist, and someone involved in atheist organizations, the only people I have come across who identify atheists as satanists are certain theists. Atheists don't believe in the devil (by definition) and every one I've ever met would have no use whatever for such rituals and trappings you speak of and would shudder at the idea of engaging in mock satanism, which could only serve to verify the ridiculous notion that atheists are satanists; a notion which again, I have only seen suggested by outsiders with an agenda.--Fuhghettaboutit 13:42, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I've known some Satanist groups who are essentially just a club that performs "rituals" as a method of rebellion and nihilistic self-fulfillment. It's a variant on LaVeyan Satanism satanism: the emphasis on personal power, wealth and material gain over the needs or wants of others. The anti-Christian trappings are more of a symbolic rebellion against society as a whole than any actual religious belief.

As to the article itself, Satanic ritual abuse has been written about in numerous books and soundly debunked. Just like other conspiracy theories, though, it has gained enough notable coverage in the media that it deserves an article, and the one we have is written in a neutral point of view. Misplaced Pages does not bury unpleasant facts, and the whole "Satanic Panic" is one of those that we shouldn't forget. -- 68.156.149.62 14:09, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

How do you create a company box

How do you create a company box on the right side of a definition - for example type vmware... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Greg.wyman (talk • contribs) 01:05, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

See Template:Infobox Company's documentation. Jeffrey.Kleykamp 01:15, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

About edit conflicts

I just responded above, clicked save, then I looked at the text and an entire paragraph from Moonriddengirl was posted beneath mine without an edit conflict even though, according to the history, my edit came later without me writing between posts, why is this? Jeffrey.Kleykamp 01:31, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Most likely, you edited a section rather than trying to edit the whole page. If you do this, you will avoid edit conflicts, unless (a) someone else is editing the same section, (b) someone else is editing the whole page or (c) you are editing the last section, and someone else is adding a new section that will go after it. — Timotab 01:42, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh, wait, you mean in the report an article bit section (rather than your edit about company infoboxes). Huh. I don't know. :) — Timotab 01:43, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Edit conflicts work by paragraphs (blocks of text separated by a blank line). Moonriddengirl added a blank line before her post, thus creating a new paragraph. You have not, thus your post was added to the previous paragraph, and there was no conflict. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 08:12, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Odd formatting in Polydor_Records using Firefox browser

I'm not sure whether this is the right place for this, but there is a weirdness in http://en.wikipedia.org/Polydor_Records.

The Company history contains three subsections. Their links have floated down over the top of the text of the second sub-section (entitled "PolyGram"). This appears to be specific to the Firefox browser (I am using 2.0.0.6) as it looks fine in IE.

Regards, Paul. 124.170.8.233 01:48, 9 September 2007 (UTC) Paul C.

I've dispersed the images to appropriate points through the text, and that seems to have fixed it for Firefox. Let's hope it still looks fine in IE. :) --Moonriddengirl 02:13, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Just checked. It looks perfectly fine in IE. Cheers, Arky 03:00, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Image not thumbnailed correctly

thumb|right|Image thumb|right|100px|Image This image has not thumbnailed correctly. It shows ok when displayed in other sizes as mediawiki makes a new thumbnail, but for the default (180px) it's failed and just shows a white image. Is there any way to get it to show? --h2g2bob (talk) 03:26, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't have an answer, but since this is a copyrighted image, I've turned the images to links. Leebo /C 04:29, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

On the Flying Spaghetti Monster article I added 1px to 181px it now shows in my browser▪◦▪≡ЅiREX≡ 06:05, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I purged the page, the image description page, performed a null edit on the image description page, purged the thumbnail, and cleared my cache. Now it works. This occasionally happens to SVG renderings, though I don't know why. With thumbnail images it's best to not hack a solution, as people might have their thumbnails configured for more than 180px. --Pekaje 14:04, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

downlode

how to downlode Pagewise A-Z index automaticali. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.95.130.225 (talk) 06:03, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Your question is too vague for me to understand, but you might find something useful in the following:

If none of those address your question, please explain what you want. --Teratornis 06:18, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

The contents of[REDACTED] can be found at WP:CONTENTS an a-z index can be found at WP:QI. DeSalvionjr Talk | Contribs 17:55, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Missing or deleted article about William F. Draper, painter

William F. Draper (1912-2003), was a prominent painter/portraitist who used to have a page/article in Misplaced Pages. When I checked it today to find out if new information had been submitted, it was gone - but his grandfather, William F. Draper (General in civil war and ambassador to Italy) remained in Misplaced Pages.

I wondered if perhaps there was intergenerational confusion that led someone to think there was a duplication, leading to deletion of information about W.F. Draper the artist?

Thanks

69.12.248.247 06:24, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Interestingly, William F. Draper does not appear in the long list of Drapers in Draper (disambiguation), but he does appear in William Draper. I don't know where the article about William F. Draper the artist went (the history for William F. Draper does not show an earlier article revision about the artist), but this Google search finds Draper the artist (unlinked) in the article: Pomfret School. --Teratornis 06:36, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I checked the deletion log for William F. Draper and William Draper, with no results. --Teratornis 06:38, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Someone unlinked William F. Draper in this revision of the Pomfret School article. The editor probably noticed the link went to the wrong William F. Draper at that time. Maybe someone can figure out where the William F. Draper (artist) article went (not knowing the exact article title does not help). --Teratornis 06:50, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I tried looking for an old article in the Wayback Machine, with no luck. However, I haven't used the Wayback Machine much, so I might not be searching it correctly. --Teratornis 06:57, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I haven't found sign of an article, but William Franklin Draper painter is requested at Misplaced Pages:Requested articles/Culture and fine arts#D with a link to . PrimeHunter 22:13, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I have created the article, it can be found at William Franklin Draper. Will add a note to existing William F. Draper article for redirect. 23:00, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

cannot find information

 i cannot find any peer reviewed articles on tropical timber logging, does the

> site have such peer reviewed articles please? > > richard > —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.137.233.136 (talk) 08:34, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Sorry nothing specific concerning peer reviewed articles on tropical timber logging but here are some related topic I've found

User blanking their Talk page

I just noticed a user (Scorpio87) blank their Talk page, which contained a number of warnings and advice about their recent edits. I know that archiving Talk pages is preferred and I could Undo, but since some of those warnings and advices were from me I am very hesitant to Undo it for fear that it would appear I'm targeting and hounding the soul. Plus, is Undoing someone's blanking of their own Talk page the right thing to do anyway? SEO 08:36, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

No it´s not the right thing. An editor has the right to change his userpage or talkpage (within the rules). This does not say, that your warnings now are forgotten. If he blanked the warnings, he shows, that he did read them. They are not forgotten, because the old versions are archived. You are right, archiving is preferred, but blanking is not forbidden. --Thw1309 08:51, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Just hope that the warnings and advice were read and understood. :) SEO 08:57, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

When I am reverting vandalism and go to talk pages to warn them. If there are no warnings there, I normally start with a 'Welcome to wikipedia' one. I don't check the history. If they had gotten a final warning, I don't know, so don't report them. I think there should be a more clear way of knowing.... Tiddly-Tom 09:26, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

My thoughts exactly, which is why I asked my question. SEO 09:34, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

From what I've seen this editor hasn't done anything over the top, some unsourced edits and some newbie mistakes, such as the edit on your user page rather then your talk page here, I didn't see any vandalism on this editors part remember not to bite newcomers :) ▪◦▪≡ЅiREX≡ 09:40, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Take that back there was there were a couple such as this joke edit early on that was rather off, but since then the editor mistakes haven't been outrageous▪◦▪≡ЅiREX≡ 10:03, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Fortunately, it's pretty easy to determine if a blank discussion page is unused or blanked. :) If it has been blanked, there's a "history" tab and the word "discussion" is blue. If it's legitimately blank, no "history" tab, red word "discussion". More insidious is when they blank some of their messages or replace it with other text. I've run into that a couple of times. --Moonriddengirl 11:31, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

pronouncment

Where do you find help for proper pronouncement of a word ex: Schecter? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.174.235.24 (talk) 10:59, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

This site has an audio pronunciation for Schecter▪◦▪≡ЅiREX≡ 11:41, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Professional associations and organizations

There doesn't seem to be any Infobox format for scientific or professional organizations, such as the International Association for Plant Taxonomy, the National Council of Teachers of Mathematics. Could an appropriate box format be generated? --EncycloPetey 14:47, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

If existing infoboxes like {{Infobox Organization}} are inadequate then you can request help at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Infoboxes or Misplaced Pages:Requested templates. PrimeHunter 15:25, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I did not know about that template because it isn't listed at Misplaced Pages:List_of_infoboxes/Society. However, it does not really meet the needs for an organization like the IAPT. Most of the parameters don't apply and the ones that would be useful don't exist. --EncycloPetey 19:40, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Copying images from Misplaced Pages

I'm not an expert, but it seems that very recently it's become impossible to copy images from Misplaced Pages - i.e. right click, select copy and paste to another program. Why, if I'm correct, has this change been made? CTwells 16:12, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I just tried it with some of the images on the main page and it worked (pasted into Paint). What program were you trying to paste into and what browser are you using? Leebo /C 16:17, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, the main page seems to work, but any other article - e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/War_of_the_League_of_Cambrai doesn't seem to have the option to copy when I right-click. Yep, I'm using paint, but it won't copy to Word either. It may just be my PC of course, but everything was fine last night CTwells 16:30, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I had no problem copying that image into Paint. Leebo /C 17:45, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I've recently copied a picture from here, from my PC I click the image, click the image in the next screen, highlight the last image, edit, copy, but then I'm forced to paste into word, then paint. Yamakiri 21:21, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

User login for tonymartin

Resolved

I submitted a question about my account earlier today. I was incorrect in believing that my account had somehow been disabled.

The error was my own. I am able to login successfully. No further action needed.

Thank you.Tonymartin 16:33, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

RHE76 Adaptable Modem

Hello,I have a question regarding my RHE76 Adaptable modem in regards to Misplaced Pages's html display. What make of modem will I need to view Wikipedias pages with proficiancy? Models RHE12-74 wouldnt be suitable nor my current modem. My modem details (in regard to the FTS code) is HDHD746H. Thank You. --Lownneraatzimmereichen 16:44, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

text appearing in different languages

Hi,

Most of the time when a Misplaced Pages page loads, portions of the text are in different languges. Is there anything I can do to make al the text appear in English? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Goodkarma01 (talk • contribs) 17:14, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

If the page is in the English Misplaced Pages at http://en.wikipedia.org then it should be in English (except for the box called "in other languages"). Parts not in English should be removed or translated except rare cases (for example if the article discusses other languages). Can you give examples? PrimeHunter 17:21, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure if I can. If I copy and paste an article, it is spelled correctly and in english. If I try to take a snapshot of the screen, I cannot paste it here. How can I show you?

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Goodkarma01 (talk • contribs) 17:51, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Upon closer examination it may not be languages other than English but garbled letters and symbols like quotes, brackets and mixtures of letters that do not make words. Thanks again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Goodkarma01 (talk • contribs) 18:03, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

By examples I meant links to the pages. It sounds to me like the problem is in your browser, but it could also be that you are viewing vandalized pages. PrimeHunter 18:20, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

When I open the home page the section "Today's featured article" should say:

"Hey Ya!" is a hip hop song written and produced by André 3000 for his 2003 album The Love Below, part of OutKast's double album Speakerboxxx/The Love Below. The song takes influence from funk and rock music, drawing comparisons to the work of The Beatles.

But my screen shows:

"Hey Ya!" is a hip hop song written and produced by André 3000 for his 2003 album Vjg"Nqxg"Dgnqy, part of OutKast's double album Urgcmgtdqzzz1Vjg"Nqxg"Dgnqy. The song takes influence from funk and rock music, drawing comparisons to the work of The Beatles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Goodkarma01 (talk • contribs) 18:36, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

What browser are you using? HoCkEy PUCK 18:43, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Safari 2.0.4 running on a powermac with OSX 10.4.10 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Goodkarma01 (talk • contribs) 18:47, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

The main page text looks fine for me. The garbled part for you is in italics which your browser can apparently not display with the used font. This sentence is normal. This sentence is in italics. Do you see garbled text after "This sentence is normal"? Can you change font? PrimeHunter 18:56, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I have a secure account but someone called 'ryulong' has indefinitely blocked access

Sir,

I wanted to upload a description of a newly formed sub-group officially sanctioned by the UK Liberal Democrats, called the Liberal Democrat Friends of Palestine.

However, having created an account i then hunted all over the Misplaced Pages web pages to see how i could contact the adminstrator 'ryulong' who blocked my access, but i can fin no way of contacting them to ask why they have denied me access.

All i want to do is upload an above board, genuine text about us but am blocked form doing so.

Our website if you wish to chekc this is a genuine request is at

www.ldfp.eu

Would someone please explain why I have been blocked and how i can be unblocked so that I can add the information about our organisation to Misplaced Pages.

Thank you.

account name: patriote —Preceding unsigned comment added by Patriote (talk • contribs) 18:27, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Your account User:Patriote was created 27 minutes before making the above post, and it has never been blocked. Liberal Democrat Friends of Palestine has never been created and is not protected against creation. Can you be more specific about what you have tried and what happened? Did it involve another account? PrimeHunter 18:35, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

You can contact the user ryulong here. --Thw1309 18:54, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I would assume that he edited from an IP, and made the post. I wouldn't put it past Ryulong to block, protect, or revert a page because he didn't like someone/thing though, he's got a temper. Could you tell us if you're editing from the same IP you made the post as? Yamakiri 20:28, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

How do I request an article be created?

I would like to request an article (External hard drive; it is currently a redirect) be created. Is there any place to do that? HoCkEy PUCK 18:40, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

There is an official request page at Misplaced Pages:Requested articles, but that´s no fast way. I would ask at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Computer science--Thw1309 18:50, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

The article exists already, it is just simply named differently. The redirect goes to Disk enclosure which is a comprehensive article about external hard drives. 21:38, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

incorrect link

Hi, I am new to wikipedia. I found a link which is incorrect in the sense, its dedicated to a person adn the name of the person is incorrectly given and hence so is the link. how to correct it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rahulsarma (talk • contribs) 18:53, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Please could you tell us the name of the article and of the link?--Thw1309 18:55, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Problems with imagemap

I use the imagemap tag to produce clickable icons in my contents page - ie clicking on the icon should link to the page listed rather than the image tag. However, this has stopped working for most links - though it still works for the To do link. I know it used to work and it hasn't chnaged recently. Has the syntax for imagemap changed, or is there a bug in the system at present? – Tivedshambo (talk) 20:44, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I checked the page and there don't seem to be any problems. If the problems persist, though, you might want to use the template {{click}}, but use it only if the imagemap tags don't work. Cheers, Arky 21:06, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

It seems to be a browser problem - it works in Firefox but not in IE6 (my default browser). – Tivedshambo (talk) 21:43, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Happy!

Who created Tamao Sato?! Whoever created this article, please let me know, because I am so happy!♥Kitty53 20:46, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

The page history says it was User:Kappa who created it. AngelOfSadness talk 20:48, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

To show your appreciate you might want to add the following {{subst:smile}} to his/hers talk page. --Thε Rαnδom Eδιτor (tαlk) 22:57, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Restoring Flugpo Article

I am trying to create an article on a website which has been deleted under the context of advertisment and lack of nobility. After further researching Misplaced Pages's policies, my userpage contains the latest version of the article and I was interested in recieving further information how to meet Misplaced Pages's requirements. If you could either assist me in this or point me in the right direction, it would be very much appreciated. Thanks.Saracity123 22:25, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Saracity123. Your tone does not seem inappropriate--you seem to have the neutral point of view down. But I note that your article is lacking sufficient external sources and there really still is not claim of notability. What makes Flugpo of interest to readers of an encyclopedia? Once you've set that out, you need third-party sources distinct from company specific ones to help substantiate claims. For instance, if you've won a major industry award, you might provide a citation for that from reputable media, an industry publication perhaps. The third party source you do have seems to be from a blog without editorial review, which would not qualify it as a reliable source. Once you've asserted what makes Flugpo of interest to an encyclopedia's readers and backed it up with third-party sources, then you can expand from the company's own webpage. If you feel you can improve the article, you might want to take it next to requests for feedback. --Moonriddengirl 00:12, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

creating an article

I want to create a page about the beat poet Philomene Long. I am worried about content and quality issues.

cheers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Theaetetus (talk • contribs) 23:09, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi. Be bold. :) An article doesn't have to be perfect to be good. Remember the pillars--particularly the first two as regards tone, sourcing and content. If you're worried about quality, you might want to review the manual of style and check out some of the links at "what is a good article?" or "article development". If you're really nervous, you may want to take your ideas to the drawing board for feedback. Once you write it, you might choose to seek feedback. Good luck, and I hope you have fun with it. :) --Moonriddengirl 00:24, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Entry: AWARE (Americans Well-informed on Automobile Retailing Economics)

Hello,

My name is Jessica Dillman and I am writing from Americans Well-informed on Automobile Retailing Ecomonics. We recently posted an entry about our non profit auto financing education group, and it was speedily deleted by Leebo. We have determined that this was because we did not include sources in our entry. We have since revised our entry, and would like it to be considered for review. We have included sources as requested, and think that we have met your guidelines. I have our entry in a word document, so please let me know the best way to send this to you. You may contact me at any time by email at the address given on my Misplaced Pages profile . I look forward to you reply. Thank you.

Jessautofinancing 00:15, 10 September 2007 (UTC)Jessica Dillman AWARE (Americans Well-informed on Automobile Retailing Economics)

Please submit your article for review at articles for creation to avoid future speedy deletions. Be aware of the core policies, and you should take special note of the conflict of interest guideline, which I'd honestly suggest you read thoroughly, as you should not create articles about yourself, your company, products, or friends. Additionally, you could review the verifiability guide, and the notability guide with relation to companies, as well as the reliable sources guide, to be aware of what sources are considered reliable per Misplaced Pages policy. Thanks, 00:21, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

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