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| ::''We''? You 're not hearing voices now are you? Oh, and he was a choir conductor, so unless you have a time machine ... ] 20:09, 29 September 2007 (UTC) | ::''We''? You 're not hearing voices now are you? Oh, and he was a choir conductor, so unless you have a time machine ... ] 20:09, 29 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
| :::The ''noted composer/conductor'' is noted for what? His German grandson. -- ] ] ] 20:55, 29 September 2007 (UTC) | :::The ''noted composer/conductor'' is noted for what? His German grandson. -- ] ] ] 20:55, 29 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
| ::::Perhaps him pasing through his Dutch musical genes despite continous adding of German peasant blood is enough of a performance to be mentioned. ] 21:01, 29 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *'''keep''' the are much less notable biographies on wiki. Being grandfather of someone of the level of Beethoven in itself is already notable enough to me; being able to find back some information on a grandfather is what makes encycplodia reading fun. ] 19:36, 29 September 2007 (UTC) | *'''keep''' the are much less notable biographies on wiki. Being grandfather of someone of the level of Beethoven in itself is already notable enough to me; being able to find back some information on a grandfather is what makes encycplodia reading fun. ] 19:36, 29 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
| :I wonder if you are then interested in Misplaced Pages biographies of his three other Grandparents also? If so, feel free to use the info at ] for a start - voting by doing. -- ] ] ] 19:48, 29 September 2007 (UTC) | :I wonder if you are then interested in Misplaced Pages biographies of his three other Grandparents also? If so, feel free to use the info at ] for a start - voting by doing. -- ] ] ] 19:48, 29 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
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Lodewijk van Beethoven
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Person only notable for being the grandfather of the famous composer. Apparent attempt by Rex Germanus (talk · contribs) to push his POV on the naming of Johann van Beethoven. Matthead O 17:22, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
- hmmmm, i'm gonna have to got with Delete, not because of anything to do with Rex's edits, but because he(Lodewijk) doesn't appear to show any notability other having musical genes. If Notability is not inherited, does that mean ancestors don't get it either? I'm pretty sure it does--Jac16888 18:18, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
- Delete/Merge Knowing Matthead's and Rex's history there may be a conflict of interest in the nomination (as well as I'd suggest a rewording to maintain neutrality), still the question regarding the notability remains. And being the parent of a notable figure does not seem to be notable enough for me (worst case we might enter recursion with the parent of said notable parent). Thus, delete or merge. 84.145.195.64 18:21, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
- STRONG KEEP. The man was a noted composer/conductor himself. The only reason why Matthead wants to delete is so he can minimize or remove any references to Beethovens Dutch origins other than his name.Rex 19:00, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
- Can you point us to a work of his, and where we can listen to it? - Looking forward to more Beethoven symphonies! -- Matthead O 19:52, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
- We? You 're not hearing voices now are you? Oh, and he was a choir conductor, so unless you have a time machine ... Rex 20:09, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
- The noted composer/conductor is noted for what? His German grandson. -- Matthead O 20:55, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
- Perhaps him pasing through his Dutch musical genes despite continous adding of German peasant blood is enough of a performance to be mentioned. Rex 21:01, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
- The noted composer/conductor is noted for what? His German grandson. -- Matthead O 20:55, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
- We? You 're not hearing voices now are you? Oh, and he was a choir conductor, so unless you have a time machine ... Rex 20:09, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
- keep the are much less notable biographies on wiki. Being grandfather of someone of the level of Beethoven in itself is already notable enough to me; being able to find back some information on a grandfather is what makes encycplodia reading fun. Arnoutf 19:36, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
- I wonder if you are then interested in Misplaced Pages biographies of his three other Grandparents also? If so, feel free to use the info at Johann van Beethoven for a start - voting by doing. -- Matthead O 19:48, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
- Try to write proper English matthead. In English also is never position at the end of a sentence. Oh and for the record, I would read about his other grandparents, but there are no articles on them now are they? Maybe his German grandparents were just not that notable... Rex 20:09, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, I would like to read about his other grandparents as well. Arnoutf 20:20, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
- Try to write proper English matthead. In English also is never position at the end of a sentence. Oh and for the record, I would read about his other grandparents, but there are no articles on them now are they? Maybe his German grandparents were just not that notable... Rex 20:09, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
- Delete. Notability is non-transferable. humblefool® 20:26, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
- Keep. Notable. M.V.E.i. 20:37, 29 September 2007 (UTC)