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Copyedit request for Rob-B-Hood

I've submitted Rob-B-Hood to the League of Copyeditors, but they have been taking a while to respond. So, if anyone of you are free, please go and copyedit the article. Thanks.--Alasdair 00:56, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Bus Uncle to appear on main page on Sept 7

This just in! It seems that The Bus Uncle is chosen to be on the main page on September 7! It's totally unbelievable!--Alasdair 06:51, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

That is fantastic, but the image, which will be soon displayed on the Main Page, is not related to the incident. That is only a random bus image. Consider changing it. --Jackl 09:42, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

I think comments would be more noticable on Misplaced Pages talk:Today's featured article/September 7, 2007. Anyway we are constrained because stills from the clip itself cannot be on main page (not fair use). This is better than no image, which quite a number of recent film/song TFAs have sported. Resurgent insurgent 00:59, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Doesn't matter now, I've taken a pic of a Route 68X bus on the road and uploaded it to Misplaced Pages. It's currently being used.--Alasdair 01:02, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Looking good. Benjwong 02:22, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Milton Friedman

I would like to add Milton Friedman into the WP:HK because he is very related to Hong Kong. Any idea? Raymond Giggs 12:30, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

You do not need to ask, but in this case, I don't think Milton is very related to Hong Kong. he just said something about Hong Kong. --Jackl 09:48, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Rob-B-Hood FAC

Hello,

Just to let you know, I've nominated Rob-B-Hood for featured article status. Feel free to go there and post your comments on it, since few people have said anything so far.--Alasdair 13:55, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Help!

We need a bit of help determining the notability of a video game from Hong Kong called Little Fighter Online. We are unable to find any English sources to prove its notability, and the main one that has been used up to now is this page, which none of the editors concerned can actually read! Any help on the contents of the page and whether or not it is a reliable source, and whether or not it proves the game's notability, would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, Miremare 17:00, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Winning a Hong Kong Trade Development Council (ref 2) award gives it notability.--Alasdair 07:20, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

I have looked the page you have given and it is not in English at all but is simplified Chinese. Do your users concerned don't know how to read simplified Chinese?(Addaick 12:21, 12 September 2007 (UTC))

No, that's why I brought it here, nobody can read it. Can you provide any details on it? Miremare 13:17, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

I am sorry to say that the web page actually can't provide any further information to the Little Fighter Online article. May be we can search for other web page:) (Addaick 12:48, 13 September 2007 (UTC))

Yes, hopefully there are others too. What kind of page is the one I linked to? Is it promotional or a review or other feature on the game? Is games.tom.com a reliable source for references? Miremare 17:36, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Generally, that page is used to introduce the game. For example, it gives a brief information of each mode. That's all. Interestingly it seems that the Misplaced Pages article has more information than that page. If you ask about whether tom.com is reliable, I can say Yes since many games can also found there. I am not a professional game player but I think you can find more info in sina.com, which is a bigger website for introducing games but most likely in Chinese. I suggest you find help from users which come from Hong Kong also:) (Addaick 08:14, 14 September 2007 (UTC))

Yes, it would be useful. :) Thanks for your help. Miremare 17:48, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

I added a Chinese video game category. The pictures on that page need licenses or they will all end up getting deleted. Benjwong 17:25, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

So, what about the games.tom.com article? Should it be added as reference, and if so, what should be done for non-Chinese speakers? Maybe if someone on the talk page certifies it as actual Chinese reference about the game (for non-Chinese speakers doubting that), it would prevent it from being removed again? The AfD also had turned up two other references, but they are in yet another language, so the problem is the same - someone not understanding them might remove them. --Allefant 09:48, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

I think that it is a good way for someone certificating that the reference is real and is notability enough to be listed on the reference list. (Addaick 12:33, 19 September 2007 (UTC))

The English video game reviewers can barely cover Japanese games that haven't been ported to English. Chinese games are no different. To require an English source for an international game is not possible. Benjwong 21:25, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Request for comment on Jackie Chan

I've started a request for comment on Jackie Chan's personal life in Talk:Jackie Chan#Jackie Chan's personal life. Feel free to go and comment.--Alasdair 01:36, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Collaboration of the Month

The subject of possibly disabling our Collaboration of the Month was brought up a few months ago (see Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Hong Kong#Our COTM) and I don't see any opposition so far. I'll give it a few more days and if there are still no objections, I'll be putting the Template:Historical on it and delinking it from pages around WP. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 19:17, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Alright I've disabled the COTM. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 02:51, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Some good news

The Hong Kong article was ranked top 19 out of 2 million[REDACTED] pages on views for the month of July 2007. Check out the statistics. It just beat Dragonball Z by alittle. Benjwong 22:36, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

That's good news. And it looks like the article was ranked higher than any other articles of countries or cities. But it makes me sad that the Dragon Ball Z article is ranked so high, and that just a few ranks below is List of Pokémon. There are too many otakus on WP. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 04:01, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Not as much otaku as there are juvenile kids. _dk 04:04, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Are there any reasons for the sudden rise in July? — HenryLi (Talk) 04:08, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Tenth anniversary of the handover, most likely. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 04:36, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Never knew that many people would be interested in the anniversary. I mean, we only have 7 million people.--Alasdair 04:37, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Is amazing how many times pokemon gets up there. Benjwong 17:28, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah I think a number of notable Western magazines wrote about the anniversary. Most of them basically grudgingly admitted that Hong Kong didn't go to hell under PRC rule like they predicted 10 years ago. What annoys me is that they're always talking about how the PRC doesn't give HK true democracy and universal suffrage, but they never really talk about how the British never gave HK democracy either until the last few years of colonial rule when the Brits know they don't have to deal with the long-term consequences of universal suffrage in HK. Democracy is need in HK for sure, but Western media doesn't really care about HK, they just want another reason to blast the PRC. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 19:59, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

The situation is different between British or PRC rule. Hong Kong emerged as middle class society in mid-1980s and hence citizens became more and more demanding on civil rights. It was the time of worry about the future of Hong Kong. You might notice more social movements for Hong Kong citizens themselves even since. People cared more than livelihood. Human rights, universal suffrage, nationality, freedom of speech, religion and more have been the hot topics in Hong Kong from 1980s. And more, PRC and Paramount Leader Deng promised that Hong Kong citizens will have the right of universal suffrage after 1997. The pledge has never been realised. If PRC has already done what they promised to Hong Kong citizen, no media could say a word against PRC on this issue. — HenryLi (Talk) 08:13, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I want HK to have universal suffrage, and I know that HKers have become much more politically active after 1997 - I think that's good. My only point is that Western media only wants a reason to say negative things about PRC when they talk about democracy in HK. They don't care as much about HK itself. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 14:13, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Ok this depends. The one country two system wasn't designed to buy HK time. It was designed to give the PRC about 50 years to figure out what to do with HK. You should thank the western media. If a hair moves the wrong way, the world will point fingers at the PRC as if to say "the British handled HK better than you." Maybe not on universal suffrage, but at least on some issues. If the PRC was really afraid of western media, they would have dumped the CCP in favor of another party. It is the easiest international target right now. Easier than any terror organization, they are sitting duck for the media especially for the upcoming olympics. Benjwong 21:18, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Proposed move Clock Tower, Hong Kong --> Former Kowloon-Canton Railway Clock Tower_Former_Kowloon-Canton_Railway_Clock_Tow-2007-09-18T17:25:00.000Z">

An editor has expressed interest in moving the Clock Tower, Hong Kong article to Former Kowloon-Canton Railway Clock Tower or the Tsim Sha Tsui Clock Tower. Interested editors should contribute to the discussion found under the Requested Move heading on the Clock Tower talk page. Luke! 17:25, 18 September 2007 (UTC)_Former_Kowloon-Canton_Railway_Clock_Tow"> _Former_Kowloon-Canton_Railway_Clock_Tow">

Tsim Sha Tsui Clock Tower would seem better. Benjwong 17:34, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Maybe you could comment on the Talk page of that article? Not too many editors have commented on it so far. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 02:23, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Those district emblems

Alright I've posted a question on the Media copyright questions board to ask if I can upload those district emblems here in English WP under non-free fair use. Hopefully the answer is yes. I have them all saved in my local computer - actually I just downloaded them off Chinese WP. If I get no objections on the Media copyright questions board, I'll upload them and stick them back in each of the district's articles. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 15:51, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Ok, there didn't seem to be any objections, so I've uploaded all the district emblems under fair use. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 16:45, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

A rewrite on Wah Yan College Cats - first draft

I am now attempting on a rewrite of Wah Yan College Cats on the basis of reliable sources. The article was deleted earlier in April through AfD because it was considered non-notable. The first draft is at User:Raphaelmak/Workpages/Wah Yan College Cats. I am considering to use a number of newspaper articles I have found as sources, as WP:CORP states that newspaper articles that are not published by the subject or at the direction of the subject qualifies as secondary sources, and in turn qualifies notability. Any constructive comments welcome. --:Raphaelmak: 13:47, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

I have added more sourced information to the draft, please comment. --:Raphaelmak: 09:45, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

If you say it is a non-profit organization, then it will probably be fine. Benjwong 23:10, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment, the draft is now modified. Any other feedbacks?--:Raphaelmak: 10:45, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Have you tried creating the article to see if others will delete it? Source is not the problem, but will others think it is notable enough? Benjwong 03:07, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Motorola CPU articles

The articles list contains Motorola_6800 and a number of other CPU articles, including 68k. These articles probably should not be included in this project, as they have no particular link to Hong Kong. Robert Hiller 16:05, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

I haven't looked at the other articles besides Motorola 6800 - it seems like the WPHK tag was added by User:Sesshomaru in August. But currently the article makes no mention of Hong Kong whatsoever. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 16:18, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Strange. Benjwong 23:05, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Which dim sum

Can someone identify this dim sum? The photo might be useful. Badagnani 16:44, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

It is 豆苗餃 (Tau Miu Kau in Hong Kong Cantonese, Pea shoot dumpling and bean sprout dumpling in English). I think it is a new kind of Hong Kong dim sum that was "invented" in Hong Kong restaurants in a few years ago. — HenryLi (Talk) 17:00, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, it looks like a see-through (clear) jiaozi to me. I see some green vegetables in there too (maybe gailan leaves?). Can we make an article for this? Badagnani 17:17, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

You should start an article on it. I won't unfortunately. Benjwong 23:05, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, I can see something white inside the dumpling and I think there is prawns too. Is it? (Addaick 14:07, 7 October 2007 (UTC))

Nope, there are no prawns in it. It's a purely vegetable dumpling.--Alasdair 16:49, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

So what is that white thing? (Addaick 12:08, 9 October 2007 (UTC))

Some do have prawns inside. — HenryLi (Talk) 16:36, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Consensus sought on proposed merging of Madame Tussauds Hong Kong with Madame Tussauds

Dear folks, an editor named 'Rtphokie' has recently suggest the merging of Madame Tussauds Hong Kong with Madame Tussauds. While I understand the rationale for the merge, I'm concerned about the prospect of vandalism, uncited edits (usually anonymous) and edit wars which are reportedly high on Madame Tussauds page itself (according to its history logs) and most importantly, the likely diminishing of the Hong Kong identity in it. I would greatly appreciate if interested editors could discuss at the article talk page so that we could reach a consensus on this matter soon. Thank you. -- Aldwinteo 04:20, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

I've left a note earlier for 'Rtphokie' and he has responded on the article talk page. Kindly review and comment. -- Aldwinteo 14:30, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm pleased to inform that the above merger issue has been fully resolved as per discussion & follow-up action mentioned on its talk page recently. Much thanks to Hong Qi Gong & Luke! for their timely feedback & support in the discussion. As I've further expanded & updated its content recently, I've nominated the article for DYK review so that its exposure can help to raise the profile of HK-related articles & WikiProject Hong Kong. FYI. -- Aldwinteo 05:55, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Rob-B-Hood underreviewed

Hello guys. Having been listed for an FAC for a long time, Rob-B-Hood is still underreviewed. So, I'd be grateful if you post some comments about the article at Misplaced Pages:Feature article candidates/Rob-B-Hood. Thank you.--Alasdair 13:21, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I think the article is still not good enough. Raymond Giggs 16:22, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Why do you say that? I think it can do a little tweaking, but not that far off. Benjwong 03:19, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

I mean if the article could be done better. Raymond Giggs 15:48, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

King Yin Lane and King Yin Lei

I suppose the two article should be merged into one as the two teem are referring to one single historic house in Wan Chai. Do anyone want to help? Shrimp wong 12:37, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

I can do this one. Give me some time. Benjwong 04:12, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Done. Benjwong 05:35, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

MTR and KCR Merged?

Had MTR and KCR merged yet? I saw something about them in the news yesterday... --Jackl 01:52, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

This is a big one. Maybe someone from MTR company will merge it?? Benjwong 04:18, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Kowloon Bowling Green Club and Morrison Hill

Kowloon Bowling Green Club and Morrison Hill are proposed for deletion. You might try to keep it or let it be deleted. — HenryLi (Talk) 02:17, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Morrison hill is now kept since it is a geography entry. Bowling green club probably should be deleted. Benjwong 03:51, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Revival

Just want to notify those who are interested that Hongkongers has been created again. I'm not sure if there're sufficient reasons for doing that. Cheers.--K.C. Tang 09:55, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

I've put a stub tag on it. One reference was provided for the article, but I haven't read it yet. The main issue last time was there wasn't any reliable source for the term "Hong Konger" itself. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 14:13, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

I guess it's not a problem of source, but rather this kind of -er/-ian article is not encyclopedic. It will either remain a stub, or become a long long personal essay.--K.C. Tang 02:27, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

If you guys want to see how un-encyclopedic the old Hongkonger article was. I have pasted the old contents here. If this article stays, please do not use surveys, stereotypes and random assumptions. I still think the term is street talk used by newspapers. But references can change that. Benjwong 04:07, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

New article

Durian Durian is my attempt at writing about a film. Please improve it! :) Totnesmartin 17:44, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Good job. That's a great film. I've done some copy-editing and clean-up on it. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 04:27, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Hatred

Is The Society For Truth And Light a "hate group" as the article claims? Or is it just hated by some of our contributors?--K.C. Tang 07:11, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Wow, that article is heavily under-referenced for the seemingly POV claims that it makes. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 07:22, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm inclined to believe that it's rather a (much) hated group than a hate group. Cheers.--K.C. Tang 07:35, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

I am too confused by the articles to have an opinion. Benjwong 05:56, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

New template

I've created a template specifically for actors/singers in the Chinese entertainment industry and I've added it to Maggie Cheung. Please take a look - Template:Infobox Chinese actor and singer. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 18:38, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Two new categories for the government

What with all the government re-organisation in recent years, and all the restructuring that took place after the handover, there are a lot of government positions and offices that are now defunct or abolished. So I've created two new categories for this:

• Category:Hong Kong government defunct offices
• Category:Defunct positions of the Hong Kong Government

Please re-categorise articles if you come across any that would appropriately fit into these categories. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 09:12, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Getting rid of Current events in Hong Kong?

What do you other editors think of getting rid of Current events in Hong Kong?

1. 95% of the time, I am the only one updating it and archiving it, and I don't think many people actually visit the page.
2. All the items are replicated on Portal:Hong Kong; and I'll keep updating the news item portion of the portal if we got rid of the current events page.
3. All the major current events pages are now fully integrated into Portal:Current events. I asked on that portal's Talk page a while ago whether we can integrate the HK current events page into it, and I got no response. (And it probably doesn't need it because there's a specific subpage for China.)

Let me know what you think. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 17:15, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I think we can get rid of that for the reasons you stated. Cheers.--K.C. Tang 07:13, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

If there are no objections in the next few days, I'll put the Template:Historical template on it and de-link from other pages. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 15:40, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Sure. As long as we have 1 place to keep up with the current news. Keep the news update with Portal:Hong Kong please. Benjwong 05:24, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Alright I've put the "historical" tag on it. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 03:56, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Faculties of the University of Hong Kong listed for AfD

The Faculties of the University of Hong Kong article has been listed for AfD. Interested editors may contribute to the discussion at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Faculties of the University of Hong Kong. Luke! 03:55, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

MTR-KRC merge

How should we do this? Technically MTRC is not buying KCRC. But for all practical purposes, it is, and it will basically be a new company. Hong Kong Railway Corporation has been nominated for deletion, based on the fact that the company's English name is still going to be MTRC. Will KCRC technically still exist after the merger? Will the KCR lines all be renamed to MTR? Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 16:12, 15 November 2007 (UTC)