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			:I'd like to reiterate the above - you've added unnecessary things to a bunch of Slayer articles. They'll all be reverted, so stop please wasting people's time. ] (]) 02:26, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

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Welcome

Welcome!

Hello, Rock Soldier, and welcome to Misplaced Pages! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Redirects and cut/paste

Hi! It looks like you're trying to move one or more pages. However, please stop doing that this way - the new name of the page might be good, but Misplaced Pages has another procedure for moving pages. Look at Help:Renaming (moving) a page: you need to use the move tab, and not cut and paste. Cut and paste moves don't take the edit history with them and thus violate the GFDL copyright terms. Also, in some cases, when the move might be controversial, you might first want to discuss the move on the article's talk page. If a move is not possible because a page with the new name already exists, go to Misplaced Pages:Requested moves. Thanks!

Also, it would be incorrect to move some of the pages you have for reasons of convention. For example, the article named "Leaving Here" is already a song, which would make "Leaving Here (song)" a bit of a redundant disambiguation. This is why it was at "Leaving Here (Motörhead song)" (the fact that it should really be under "Leaving Here (Motörhead single)" is currently under debate! The same goes for "Louie Louie" as well. "Motorhead (song)" and its live counterpart were thus placed for logical reasons explained on its history log by Kingboyk. Hope this clears things up for you, and keep up the good work in the field of music. Rock on! Bubba hotep 09:39, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks

That's some seriously painstaking work you've been doing recently, doing those sorts of expansions usually make my eyes glaze over after a bit, it's laborious stuff and it's appreciated. Thanks.--Alf 23:54, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

If you're going to do something ...

... learn to do it right. --evrik 21:14, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Metal Bands

I've seen you on the metallica page doing it, but this also happened on the Megadeth page. Do not set the tables on metal bands to your version. They are not as aesthetically useful. The grid form shows the longetivity and time period easier. Mobus 04:52, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Genesis timeline

Hi Rock Soldier, I wanted to reach out to you to talk about the Genesis timeline. I say this with all sincereity, I truly do appreciate your edits and your attempts in trying to improve the quality of this article. However, the the initial edits made by you had affected to format and display of the timeline in the main article. The second edit, I'm sorry to say, made the timeline look rather confusing with acronyms that not everyone would/could immediately understand. Therefore I would like to revert back to the original version. My reasoning is simple — when the timeline was initially created, it was meant to document active Genesis personnel through the years and not necessarily to talk about what instruments they played. Also, the Genesis Infobox at the very top right corner of the Genesis article discusses the various instruments played by Genesis personnel in the sections "Members" and "Former Members", so this information is repetetive.

Again, I would like to say that I truly do appreciate your efforts and would like to request you to continue contributing to and monitoring this and other articles to improve their overall quality. Thanks AreJay 15:34, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Question

I'm not at all being funny, but what is it with your propensity for trying to condense two articles down to one when two is just fine in a non-paper enyclopedia, considering it reads and navigates better for the common-or-garden user? Does it offend your Wiki-nature? – B.hotep /_t• 22:31, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Plus if you are wondering why I have been a bit short with you with your big ideas at various article talk pages and actions without consultation with peers – consider the fact that you never reply to, or even acknowledge, queries or actions contrary to your own holding. I've invested 3,000+ hours into this project, always with consultation. I can't afford much time nowadays, hence the pert input countering your proposals. – B.hotep /_t• 22:55, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

June 2007

Hello. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary. Thank you. ~ Wiki hermit 03:04, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

User page

Very nice new user page, it seems vaguely familiar, now where have I seen that before? :D --Alf 14:37, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Haha. Well, I decided I was tired of seeing the red in the link to my page, so I just went to the first userpage I could find, copied what I could from there, and took it from there. Maybe I'll get around to some originality some day. :)

--Rock Soldier 14:41, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm glad to see the redlink go, look forward to version two ;) Just to let you know that there is now a Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Motörhead.--Alf 05:55, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

a few editing tip

You keep making a blunder on your Deep Purple album edits. Please read WP:ALBUM#Chronology for explanation on the proper entries for 'next' and 'previous' album fields. 156.34.216.32 00:37, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

It says "Only studio albums, usually excluding live albums, compilations, singles and EPs should be included in the chronology." So by that I would assume that all of the live albums and compilation albums would be left out of the chronology. But why, then, does the chronology include Made in Japan and 30: Very Best of Deep Purple?

--Rock Soldier 01:46, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

It was suggested that you be made aware of WT:ALBUM#Quick question about recent edit summary. (As for chronologies, it is preferred (that's what "usually" refers to) that they don't include live albums, but that guideline is often disregarded, most likely because many editors are unfamiliar with it.) Have a nice day. --PEJL 15:08, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

So what should be done: should we delete all the live albums from the Deep Purple album chronology, or should we add in all the live and compilation albums, ordered by year?

--Rock Soldier 21:35, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

read WP:FAIR

Adding album covers to song articles is a violation of WP:FAIR. Covers are only fair-use in the article about the album itself. Not fair-use for the songs from the album. Songs categorized as singles can have covers but not from the album... only the actual single cover itself. Feel free to delete any/all "album" covers from song articles unless the song is designated a single... and the proper single cover is being used(that image, of course, must have fair-use rationale and proper sourcing) 156.34.228.60 01:51, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

This is also mentioned at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Songs#Single cover. --PEJL 02:04, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Fixed your Satriani info box

209.181.219.106 15:09, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on For Whom the Bell Tolls (Metallica song). Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. --cholmes75 03:25, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Incorrect genre additions

Perhaps you should read Folk rock and Symphonic rock. Since you don't know what these genres really are perhaps its best that you not add them to any articles until you learn more about them. Also maybe read Hard rock as well. Again... since you don't know what that genre incorporates it would be best that you not try to remove valid placement of it from articles until you get a better understanding of what it is. Hope that helps. 156.34.218.39 19:33, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

An editing question

How come your editing under your Rock Soldier account now. But earlier you edited anonymously as IP 69.148.69.175? And then you created a new user account called Cholmes76 even though you already have a Rock Soldier account? And previously you've edited as IP 69.148.83.96, IP 69.148.83.96, IP 68.88.71.191, IP 69.148.68.58, IP 69.148.69.125 and many more different IP #'s even though you have a very active username? And if you have this account why did you create an account called Metal Head 4 life? Why do you need to edit under different usernames? 142.166.250.54 —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 22:42, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

I only know of three user I've edited as. There's this account, obviously, there was before I created an account, when I must have been one of those IP addresses (I'm honestly not sure which one), and then my old computer crashed, and I had to get a new one, and may have edited a few times without realizing I wasn't logged in. I don't know why I was listed under so many different IP addresses before I made an account, but it was the same computer for all but one of them. As for the Cholmes76, that's not me. I don't know who that is or how people ended up thinking that that's me, but I can guarantee you that it's not. Does that answer your question?

--Rock Soldier 02:18, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Formatting of album genres

Hi there. Please note that genres should be delimited by commas, not line breaks, in album infoboxes. See WP:ALBUM#Genre. Also, if a genre needs to be referenced, it should be referenced in the body of the article, not the infobox, which is only meant to summarize facts stated in the body of the article. Have a nice day. --PEJL 21:25, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

I see you've started adhering to the first part. I'd like to repeat my suggestion that you consider the second part. Writing about the musical style of an album is important (see WP:ALBUM#Article body). If you feel that an album is hard rock, you could start by just stating that in the article body, and referencing it there. Once such a statement is in place, it can be included into the infobox as well, which as I noted above should summarize facts stated elsewhere in the article. I think your changes would have a higher likelihood of remaining unreverted if you were to do that. --PEJL 05:35, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Need your help

Since you are an editor from Dallas, Texas perhaps you could take a quick look at the Texas blues article and see if you can assist in some of the cleanup there. It is a very brief article and has no citations for any content. Some of the structure could use a little work as well to bring it into line with other Misplaced Pages music pages. Just hoping that since you are active on many music related articles and editing from Dallas Texas, you might be able to provide some positive contribution. Thanks. 198.164.250.152 12:09, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

You confusion over genres

You really need to take the time to read and understand different music genres before trying to edit them. And you can't use All music Guide as a source for genres either. AMG distinguishes between "Genre" and "Style"... something Misplaced Pages doesn't do as a practice. For example, if you look at AMG's listings for ZZ Top albums... read them closely... only 1 genre is ever listed... Rock. Everything else is placed under "Style" and NOT genre... so as a reference for genre... it can't be used since it doesn't support the text being referenced. All Music Guide does have articles about different Rock music styles. In each Style article the website lists key artists by priority in each category. Look at Southern Rock on AMG. ZZ Top is NOT listed as a "Tier 1" southern rock band. AMG loses all validity after it's first tier rankings so as a citation for content on Misplaced Pages... unless the artist is a Level 1... AMG doesn't apply. That being said... look at the Hard Rock article on All Music Guide and pay particular attention to their Tier 1 listing. ZZ Top is listed as a Level 1 Hard Rock artist on All Music Guide and they apply that style to all their albums. Hope that helps you with your misunderstanding of the Hard Rock genre... and ZZ Top's placement in it. Trying asking for help bwfore you try editing any genres on Misplaced Pages. Your batting average so far is zero and you could really use some help. 156.34.230.78 23:14, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

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Linking track names

Hi there. Note that the track names you are linking are redirects back to the album article. As such, I've reverted them. --PEJL 19:57, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm aware of that, I just though it looked a little more official to have a link for each song on the album page. But if you insist.

--Rock Soldier 19:58, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

It may look official, but it is misleading to the reader, and inappropriate per WP:MUSIC#Songs. --PEJL 20:01, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

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Lemmy -> Kilmister_Kilmister-2007-11-05T11:08:00.000Z">

Every single piece of music that has been written by Lemmy that has ever been published has been published under his surname Kilmister. I have never seen any writing credits for "Lemmy". Drwhawkfan 11:08, 5 November 2007 (UTC)_Kilmister"> _Kilmister">

Even so, he's simply Lemmy. When you say Lemmy, people don't ask "who, Lemmy Kilmister, or...", he's the one and only, and people recognize him by just his first name. Take a look at his page, he's listed under "Lemmy". Nothing more. I don't know why he's credited as Lemmy Kilmister, but here we should keep it as Lemmy. On albums where someone is credited by a name that they are less commonly known as, they're still listed by their better-known names here, right? Take Tres Hombres for example, where Frank Beard is credited as Rube Beard on the album. On the page, he's still listed as Frank, with the alternate credit listed in parenthesis. Understand?

If you really think something should be done, take it up in the Motörhead talk page. Otherwise, I'm pretty sure "Kilmister" counts as a mis-credit.

--Rock Soldier 19:52, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Read WP:FAIR again

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Please stop going through articles adding unnecessary details e.g. This is your edit to the Nirvana article and this is the reversion of it . It is completely unnecessary, it doesn't need to be done. Thank you. Scarian 17:07, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

I don't see what the problem is. It does no harm to the article and doesn't occupy rediculous amounts of space or anything like that, I see more of a problem in not having such details than in having them. Like in that article, it lists both Kurt Cobain and Dave Grohl under simply "vocals", when Kurt sang lead and Dave sang backup, except on the song Marigold. With them both listed under vocals, it makes it look as though they're both lead vocalists, like co-lead vocals. I amended it to specify that Kurt sings lead to avoid such confusion. Now tell me, what is wrong with that?

--Rock Soldier (talk) 22:47, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

I think you should take that up with the user who actually reverted it :-) - I follow his lead generally because he is right. User:ChrisB is the one you want to talk about that to. Scarian 23:01, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

I'd like to reiterate the above - you've added unnecessary things to a bunch of Slayer articles. They'll all be reverted, so stop please wasting people's time. LuciferMorgan (talk) 02:26, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

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