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Barnstar

Thanks for the barnstar. I didn't realise that I had been doing much reversion on the page. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 04:39, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

That's true. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 04:47, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

I hadn't seen that. I check it out later on. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 05:02, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Marx/Engels Collected Works

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Marx/Engels Collected Works, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Misplaced Pages's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Misplaced Pages is not" and Misplaced Pages's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page.

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• Strong keep. Ludvikus (talk) 11:44, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Standard work

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• Strong keep. Ludvikus (talk) 11:44, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

RfD comments

Would you please return to the RfD page when you get a minute? I think the comments you made on 5 May might have been accidentally appended to the wrong discussions. (If not, then I must confess that I don't have a clue what you meant.) Thanks. Rossami (talk) 22:06, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

RfD means Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion. You made comments in the Historical revisionism (negationism) (disambiguation) → Revisionism and Gamecruft → Cruft discussions. Rossami (talk) 22:23, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

ANI-notice|User:JPG-GR

Hello, Ludvikus. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The discussion can be found under the topic User:JPG-GR. Yours, --Schwalker (talk) 07:13, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm extremely unfamiliar with this kind of page. Can you please specify exactly what part to go to? Thanks. In the mean time, I'll guess. Please infom me if I'm in the wrong place. Thanks. --Ludvikus (talk) 08:12, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

On The Jewish Question -> On the Jewish QuestionIt has been proposed that On The Jewish Question be renamed and moved to On the Jewish Question. As an editor previously involved in a similar discussion, you are invited to weigh in here. Thanks. JPG-GR (talk) 23:33, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Historical revisionism

Exactly Ludvikus! Boodles is claiming Jap sex slavery is some undeniable historical fact, but there are plenty of cultural POV assumptions in his argument. -WikiSkeptic (talk) 18:11, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Historical revisionism (disambiguation)

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Why tell me to improve it? Why don't you do that. My interest now is simply in WP:DAB and {{otheruses}}. --Ludvikus (talk) 23:04, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Please read Historical revisionism (disambiguation) for an explanation of why I've proposed the deletion of the page. I recommend (once again) that you read and understand WP:DAB before you continue creating and expanding inappropriate disambiguation pages. — ] (] · ]) 23:08, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Try an impersonal tone with me - you'll be far more effective. Also, your condescention does not help either. --Ludvikus (talk)

AfD nomination of Historical revisionism (disambiguation)

I have nominated Historical revisionism (disambiguation), an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Misplaced Pages's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Historical revisionism (disambiguation). Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? — ] (] · ]) 23:35, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Duly noted. --Ludvikus (talk) 02:57, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Historical Revisionism vs. Historical revisionism

The differentiation you are trying to make is wholly artificial. We already have two articles on the subject, Historical revisionism and Historical revisionism (negationism). You are attempting to make a third article, on the same topic as the second, using entirely non-standard naming conventions. The disambiguation link at the top of the Historical revisionism article is all that is required. Jayjg 00:23, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

OK. Thanks. Appreciate your advice. --Ludvikus (talk) 01:03, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Please don't rename an article (and an approach to historiography) when consensus is clearly against you. Thank you. — ] (] · ]) 02:30, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

I have no idea what you're talking about. --Ludvikus (talk) 02:49, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Article name change

Please see the guidelines in "Misplaced Pages:Requested moves". Laudak (talk) 01:36, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Read this. You are wrong again. Boodlesthecat 02:43, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Please be more specific as to what you want me to read. Since it's on Capitalization may I simply direct you to the following examples as to precedence:

1. Jewish question
2. Jewish Question
3. The Jewish Question
4. On The Jewish Question
5. Historical revisionism
6. Historical Revisionism
7. American Revolution
8. French Revolution

Now what is your point? --Ludvikus (talk) 02:56, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

OK, you obviously still didnt read it. You don't get the difference between "American Revolution" and "Historical revisionism"? Boodlesthecat 03:16, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Request to move article Historical Revisionism (negationism) incomplete

You recently filed a request at Misplaced Pages:Requested moves to move the page Historical Revisionism (negationism) to a different title - however your proposal is either incomplete or has been contested as being controversial. As a result, it has been moved to the incomplete and contested proposals section. Requests that remain incomplete after five days will be removed.

Please make sure you have completed all three of the following:

1. Added {{move|NewName}} at the top of the talk page of the page you want moved, replacing "NewName" with the new name for the article. This creates the required template for you there.
2. Added {{subst:RMtalk|NewName|reason for move}} to the bottom of the talk page of the page you want to be moved, to automatically create a discussion section there.
3. Added {{subst:RMlink|PageName|NewName|reason for move}} to the top of today's section here.

If you need any further guidance, please leave a message at Misplaced Pages talk:Requested moves or contact me on my talk page. - JPG-GR (talk) 03:08, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Revisionist Zionism

Please stop your disruptive behavior at Talk:Revisionist Zionism. Thank you. — ] (] · ]) 16:43, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

• Please stop your personal attacks, and inflamatory language. The word "behavior" is insulting and used against a child.
• If you believe something is disruptive, then you have to tell me (1) why, and (2) how. --Ludvikus (talk) 16:51, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

The issue of renaming Revisionist Zionism was discussed and your suggestion was rejected. Continuing to push the issue by starting a new section is being disruptive. Please stop. — ] (] · ]) 17:00, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Zionist-Revisionist movement

--Ludvikus (talk) 18:25, 8 May 2008 (UTC) == Disruption == --Ludvikus (talk) 18:25, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If your vandalism continues, you will be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages. Boodlesthecat 18:02, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

But it's just me and him latley - you haven't participated. So what consensus are you talking about? --Ludvikus (talk) 18:05, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

The editors in involved are:

• User:BoodlesthecatUser talk:Boodlesthecat
• User:Malik ShabazzUser talk:Malik Shabazz

How does discussion among between us three two on a Talk page constitute "disruption"? --Ludvikus (talk) 18:09, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

You moved the Revisionist Zionism page against the consensus of multiple editors. Stop playing games and stop lying. You will be blocked if you don't stop. You should take this seriously if you want to constinue to participate in Misplaced Pages. Boodlesthecat 18:17, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Please do not use the word "lying." You know that's insulting. So if I include you in the counting to determine consensus then we get two against one. And your colleague merely

the discussion page. You did not participate on and before that moment. My Discussion established my point. --Ludvikus (talk) 18:25, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Malik, Nudve, No. 57, Hertz188, Boodles. FIVE. Stop it. Boodlesthecat 18:32, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

User:Flying tiger

You seem like a reasonable individual. Could you lend a hand with this user? First and foremost, his username is the name of a 1930s foreign-sponsored terrorist organization; second he's going around changing everything with a pro-Nationalist China bias. Thank you. -WikiSkeptic (talk) 18:15, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Well I appreciate that the voice of reason is often drowned out by the numerous voices of chaos and anarchy, but I will be glad to patrol some areas you need a hand in if you can tone Flying Tiger's terrorism just one notch. -WikiSkeptic (talk) 18:19, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

FYI

Please see Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Disruptive editing and page moves by User:Ludvikus. — ] (] · ]) 18:21, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Move probation

Hi. With respect to moves, for the next month please restrict yourself to using the WP:RM procedure (to be closed by an admin) and not moving articles yourself. There's just been too many problems lately, so I think it'll help. Thx in advance for your understanding & cooperation. El_C 20:37, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

• OK. But it seems you're taking a different Stand on the Administrative Notice Board "stand" on the "administrative notice board". I certainly wish to heed your advice. But please explain to me what exactly you mean by your statements on said board? --Ludvikus (talk) 20:42, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
• Also, by "next month" do you mean until June 8th? --Ludvikus (talk) 20:44, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm not following what you mean by this (oddly capitalized) "taking a different Stand on the Administrative Notice Board." 8th is fine. El_C 20:47, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

What I'm asking is if what you say here is the same as what you said there? That's all. I'm still not familiar with all the WP acronyms, that why I'm asking. --Ludvikus (talk) 20:52, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Also, are you addressing me in an administrative capacity, or merely as another WP user? --Ludvikus (talk) 20:54, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Administrative capacity. I told those editors that a Request for comment (RfC — which was linked) may be the next step. El_C 20:59, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

So your ruling is that if I do not "move" any pages until after June 8 I'm OK regarding the incident with Shabazz? - that Shabazz can no longer take out an RfC on this dispute? --Ludvikus (talk)

What I'm saying is that for moves, use WP:RM for the next month and let the overseeing admin handle it. But an RfC can still be created (it is not an indictment, it is just a request for broader comments) about this or any other issue. El_C 21:19, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Well then, you haven't solved anything. I want all issues resolved now. That's the only fair way to go. You have to deal with everything - and end it all. I'm ready, willing, and able to do that. So please do the rest of your job. Let's end everything now. So far you've only delt with one item. That's incomplete, I think. As you can see, I'm extremely cooperative with you. The other side has not addressed my situation at all. --Ludvikus (talk) 21:25, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, but it is really up to you and the other disputing parties to engage in dispute resolution to resolve your other outstanding issues. I'm just attending to the administrative side of it (the questionable moves), with this temporary formula that hopefully will keep the heat down considerably. El_C 21:31, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

OK. But put that in your summary there. List all the outstanding issue that remain unresolve. Say that there too, not just here. Thanks. --Ludvikus (talk) 21:37, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm unsure what issues remain unresolved, so I'm unable to list em. El_C 21:43, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Then why don't you just ask the accusers to come foward and clarify their complaint there on the "ANB"? --Ludvikus (talk) 21:46, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

If you wish to seek clarifications, feel free to engage those whom these are directed to. El_C 21:49, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

No. They said what the said. And I said what I said. You stepped in as anadministrator and took action. (1) You restricted me for one month, and (2) you advised me to remove certain names, and I've done so. It is now your duty to finish your jub. I think you should ask them what they want more, and to clarify their complaint. It's up to you I think to make things clear now so I know what's expected of me by Misplaced Pages. --Ludvikus (talk) 21:56, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, but I am not obliged to mediate your dispute. If you wish to enter into mediation, there are volunteers who fill that role. El_C 23:10, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Let the record of this discussion stand as outrageous techno-lynching of generous, fair, and neutral contributor Ludvikus.-WikiSkeptic (talk) 17:12, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi

I've noticed some of your edits have caused messed up display of special characters, and in particular - what web browser are you using? --Random832 (contribs) 20:03, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Netscape. But please tell me which is best for Misplaced Pages? And thanks a million for your observation!!!! --Ludvikus (talk) 20:06, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

PS:It does not look like my editing! I just checked! I do not recall working on those 2 particular parts. Are you sure you've got the right Wikipedian? --Ludvikus (talk) 20:10, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Some old versions of netscape can cause problems, but I think there's now a workaround on the server side so you won't have to worry about it. And the actual edits were just changes to the external links section - the rest of the changes were due to the error rather than something you edited. --Random832 (contribs) 01:39, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

RfD nomination of Union of Zionist -Revisionists

I have nominated Union of Zionist -Revisionists (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) for discussion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. — ] (] · ]) 21:58, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Message

Hello. There's no reason why we can't work together, so long as you stop being disruptive in your editing. — ] (] · ]) 18:02, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

some support

Hi,
You have recently granted a barnstar for peace to wikiskeptic...
I don't know him but I have some problem with him. Would you mind trying reasonning him and explaining him wp is not a battlefield and that this and this too is not very peaceful, whatever our mind on the matter...
Thank you in advance. Ceedjee (talk) 18:07, 9 May 2008 (UTC)