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*... that ''']''' was successful in getting the 2008 edition of the State Personnel manual to prohibit discrimination based on sexuality and gender identity? Self-nom. ] (]) 00:31, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
*... that the ''']''' has several unique adaptations that led it to be called "one of the most heat-resistant animals known"? self-nom ] (]) 15:28, 17 May 2008 (UTC) *... that the ''']''' has several unique adaptations that led it to be called "one of the most heat-resistant animals known"? self-nom ] (]) 15:28, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
*... that the town of ''']''' in ], ] is famous for its Bhagavathar Melas and an unique style of '']'' which is practised here? - (increased five-fold) self-nom by -<font color="maroon" size="4" face="Monotype Corsiva">]</font><sub><font color="aqua" face="Monotype Corsiva">]</font></sub> 11:46, 17 May 2008 (UTC) *... that the town of ''']''' in ], ] is famous for its Bhagavathar Melas and an unique style of '']'' which is practised here? - (increased five-fold) self-nom by -<font color="maroon" size="4" face="Monotype Corsiva">]</font><sub><font color="aqua" face="Monotype Corsiva">]</font></sub> 11:46, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
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*... that silver medalist ''']''' of ] was the youngest member of the 1968 U.S. Olympic Team at the ]? (self) ] (]) 20:24, 16 May 2008 (UTC) *... that silver medalist ''']''' of ] was the youngest member of the 1968 U.S. Olympic Team at the ]? (self) ] (]) 20:24, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

*... that ''']''' was successful in getting the 2008 edition of the State Personnel manual to prohibit discrimination based on sexuality and gender identity? Self-nom. ] (]) 00:31, 17 May 2008 (UTC)


=== Articles created/expanded on May 14 === === Articles created/expanded on May 14 ===

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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on May 17

Articles created/expanded on May 16

Mahadeva temple
Mahadeva temple
Which article? Please mark the DYK article in bold. Also, include a note pointing to the picture you have included. Thus, it should look like this:
Drawing of Benjamin Robins' ballistic pendulum
Drawing of Benjamin Robins' ballistic pendulum
Alternative:
... that German mathematician Friedrich Heinrich Albert Wangerin wrote an important two volume treatise on potential theory and spherical functions, Theorie des Potentials und der Kugelfunktionen, in 1909 and 1921? Masterpiece2000 (talk) 06:03, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Why can't it go on the main page? It's long enough and the ref checks out! (lol) Mjroots (talk) 14:42, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
I've bolded the RFA instead of the log ;). Mjroots (talk) 14:46, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Abdominal CT scan of a patient with subcutaneous emphysema
Abdominal CT scan of a patient with subcutaneous emphysema
Created this article especially to mark my 100th DYK.--Bedford 03:59, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Congrats on your 100th DYK (to be)! That is truly mind blowing. Minor thing: wouldn't it be "a Union Army patrol"? delldot talk 12:52, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, although I figured out last night that my 100th will actually be the Indiana State Parks one, which is suitable for 100 as well (I should have accredited myself with one I didn't.)--Bedford 15:55, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Samuel Huston
Samuel Huston

Articles created/expanded on May 15

But the article states 'It is believed to be the only bridge on Earth that begins and ends in the same county, crosses over two rivers (Green River and the Rough River, and passes over an entirely different county.' - implying the bridge is unique because it crosses all of these different things. At most it can only be said to claim that "'It is believed to be the only bridge in the world that starts and ends in the same county" - Benea (talk) 22:30, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Could we change the hook to read "it is probably the only bridge in the world..."? I'm not sure if hooks can be like that, but if it is allowed, I think it would be really cool to put that on the Main Page because I'm sure a lot of people would read it. Thingg 22:43, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
I changed the hook; how does it look?--Bedford 23:59, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Looks good! nice find. Thingg 16:04, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. It was indeed a nice find; I only found it due to being lost bewildered while traveling last Saturday.--Bedford 23:21, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Which article? The359 (talk) 18:18, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
I assume its the Woodhouse Grove School, but it doesn't look like this is a five-fold expansion within the last five days. BuddingJournalist 19:38, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
It does appear to be the Woodhouse article. I think it's skirting the edge of the 5-day rule (21stCenturyGreenstuff's edits to this article began on May 9th, but he really only reached 5x expansion today). However, the hook used here is poorly worded and uninteresting. It presents no unique factoid other than saying exactly what the school is. The359 (talk) 21:26, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 14

The Triumphal Arch
The Triumphal Arch
Wardlow Mires
Wardlow Mires
Chantilly lace
Chantilly lace
"world famous"? POV/PEACOCK? --74.14.17.189 (talk) 14:13, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
The assertion of "world famous" is be backed up by this page (scroll to number 40), but the site appears to be relatively old. Could you possibly find another, more recent citation for the fact? Thingg 23:23, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
What assertion of "world famous"? That's still somebody's POV. --74.14.21.98 (talk) 02:10, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
More citations..."arguably rugby union's most famous stadium" (BBC), "Overshadowed by the Millennium Stadium, the Blues' stadium is next door, both of course built in the world famous Cardiff Arms Park", "The Arms Park...the venue is among the most famous in the world" (Cardiff RFC), "The Arms Park, one of rugby union’s most famous grounds" (Welsh Rugby Union) Wales play their home games...at the world famous Cardiff Arms Park (www.rugby15.co.uk) and "The Millennium Stadium is built on the site of the world famous Cardiff Arms Park rugby stadium" (www.geometry.net)...hopefully this is will help. Seth Whales (talk) 09:04, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
You're citing people's opinion. In a single sentence on the mainpage, it's WP:PEACOCK-ish, too. Try describing what makes it famous, instead. --74.13.129.229 (talk) 12:55, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Just so you are aware, if a statement that is ...for lack of a better term... lofty/exclamatory is backed up by reliable sources, which Seth has provided, it is permissible. He doesn't have enough room to explain why it is world-famous in a >200 character hook. If a reader wonders why it is world famous, they can go to the article and find out that the stadium has what was once the world's largest retractable roof. The reason he did not put that fact in the hook is the article is not about the stadium, it is about the club that owns the stadium. Looks good to me. Thingg 16:16, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Permissible POV in the article is not good enough for the main page. You'll get room if you drop the Blues from the hook. --74.13.129.175 (talk) 18:53, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
1400 characters. Thingg 23:14, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
I count 1600+ characters. --PFHLai (talk) 16:43, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
hmm... maybe I'm doing it wrong, but I got 1410 characters. There are 1685 characters including spaces. I can't remember, do we count spaces? Thingg 16:52, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
AFAIK, yes, we do count spaces. --PFHLai (talk) 16:57, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
ahehheh... yeah, I just saw that. Sorry about that. Thingg 16:59, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Date, ref, and length verified. Thingg 23:14, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Referencing article appears to have been taken down. Thingg 01:39, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Unexpected Visitors
Unexpected Visitors
  • ... that Edward Lamson Henry paid such close attention to detail that his nostalgic paintings of agrarian America (pictured) were considered authentic historical reconstructions? (Self-nom. Expanded from a {{1911}} stub into a real article! I don't believe there are any COI concerns here, as I did not create the article and I think notability and such is quite clear. --JayHenry (talk) 02:39, 15 May 2008 (UTC) )
  • Correct me if I'm wrong (I don't play in here too often) but I think only content is counted, not references, etc. If so, then the length went from a bit over 900 to under 3,300. If I'm splitting hairs, someone more experienced here please overrule because it's a much nicer article now. —Wknight94 (talk) 21:05, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, I goofed. I can live with that. I'm just happy the article is better, DYK would have been an added bonus. TravellingCari 21:30, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Hook and length verified, but in the article the hook has no inline citation directly after it. Could this be looked at? BG7 14:40, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
  • It's "covered" by the citation following the subsequent sentence, but I've copied over the citation again for the sentence that the hook refers to. Does this resolve the issue? BuddingJournalist 15:52, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Yep that's fine! BG7
  • ... that the 12th century Doddabasappa Temple (pictured) in Karnataka state, India, has a 24-pointed stellate plan which is considered unusual in Indian architecture?(self nom)Dineshkannambadi (talk) 02:19, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
    • I'm a bit confused by the hook, comparing it with the article. It also doesn't appear to be cited. Please forgive me if i'm wrong. BG7 14:46, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
      • The hook is cited (citation #4 from Foekema, one of the experts on Chalukyan architecture).thanks, Dineshkannambadi (talk) 14:51, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
        • Please explain what the confusion is and I can clarify.thanks Dineshkannambadi (talk) 15:05, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
          • Hi, the hook is spread out over several sentences in the article - I think it would be better for the hook to be put almost as it is in the article? Also, generally it should be cited immediately after the . (full stop) of the sentence.
          • BG7 17:38, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
              • Hi. Here is the sentence with the hook. It appears as the first paragraph in the section "stellate plan" - The temple is based on a 24-pointed uninterrupted stellate plan (star shaped) and uses soapstone as its basic building material. Contemporary stellate plans in central India from where the inspiration for this temple came from, were all 32-pointed interrupted types. No temples of the 6-, 12-, or 24-pointed stellate plans are known to exist anywhere in India, with the exception of the Doddabasappa temple, which can be described as a 24-pointed uninterrupted plan. Could you tell me how you want it re-worded Or do you expect this in the LEAD? thanks. Dineshkannambadi (talk) 21:43, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 13

Alt hook: ... that the Soviet Union won a medal at every single Ice Hockey World Championships competition in which it participated? Alt hook written by Ten Pound Hammer and his otters20:27, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Created Page Today, included several references.<3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 20:05, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Removed hook and article links. Will possibly create article at a later date. <3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 13:06, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

*... that before Dr. Seuss's Yertle the Turtle and Other Stories was published by Random House, a meeting had to be held because it contained the word "burp", which was then considered vulgar? — (not entirely sure about the wording, please suggest) self-nom, Mr. Absurd (talk) 05:25, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

perhaps:
... that a meeting had to be held before Dr. Seuss's Yertle the Turtle and Other Stories was published by Random House as it contained the word "burp", which was then considered vulgar?
Hows that for an alt hook?
however, i'm not too sure that it meets DYK's guidelines. It's not new, and it doesnt' appear to have expanded five-fold. BG7 10:57, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
alternatively ... that in order to get around the prohibition on foreign lace imports into England in the late 1600s, merchants smuggled in Brussels lace calling it 'Point d'Angleterre' or "English point"? new article, self nom Loggie (talk) 07:31, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Preexisting article that has only had a ~25% increase in readable text, far short of the fivefold expansion called for in the #Instructions. --Allen3  14:32, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 12

I thought the irony would make a great hook.--Bedford 14:27, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Yes, it does, and the sources back it up. But maybe we should rewrite this so someone reading on it would know we were talking about a monument, not the county's Civil War history (which was my guess prior to mousing over the link) and make the irony implicit. Let's try:
... that Union County, Kentucky, largely supported the Confederacy in the Civil War and built a monument to its Confederate dead (pictured) afterwards? Daniel Case (talk) 14:20, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Works for me.--Bedford 15:52, 17 May 2008 (UTC)


Article is currently on AFD and ineligible for Main Page until it's closed as a keep. Daniel Case (talk) 14:12, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Need to boldface new article. Daniel Case (talk) 21:28, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
Length and reference verified. Shouldn't we have some better disambiguation term than "WWI Capt"? It doesn't quite sound in accord with naming conventions. Daniel Case (talk) 14:09, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Length and reference verified. However, this is a dull hook (and I had to remove a pargraph that, while sourced, was taking a potshot at Smith). How about:
... that Orlando Magic general manager Otis Smith ran a children's charity in his native Jacksonville for two decades? Daniel Case (talk) 14:03, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Okay, let's try it again (the article was expanded):
The hook fact is uncited. --BorgQueen (talk) 06:27, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Template:Http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080508/OBITUARIES01/805080334/1060/NEWS01= (I couldn't figure this out.)Billy Hathorn (talk) 01:05, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

I removed the part about party and use of the phone number. Billy Hathorn (talk) 01:06, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Nearest footnote says nothing about paper's founding. Daniel Case (talk) 13:51, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Expiring noms

Articles created/expanded on May 11

Too short. Daniel Case (talk) 14:32, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
  • I've now considerably expanded the information on his military career, the only interesting potential hooks on that front are in rather inacessible sources, unless anyone who regularly verfies has access to the Times of 1992 when his obit was published. If it wouldn't push us over the character limit, could we add Major-General in front of his name in the existing hook? David Underdown (talk) 08:18, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Again a hook writes a check the article can't cash. The article and source confirms that he gave away a lot of his work, but says nothing about "dying in poverty". So how about:
... that landscape painter Frank Reaugh kept a lifelong vow to always live in Texas after moving there from Illinois? Daniel Case (talk) 14:20, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the nom: I'm sure a better hook would be:
Discussion forums are usually not considered reliable sources. Daniel Case (talk) 14:13, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 10

Stalin, Roosevelt & Churchill
Stalin, Roosevelt & Churchill
I've notified the author. There should be ample time to fix up the citations. --PFHLai (talk) 01:32, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Verified length and create date.--Rosiestep (talk) 21:51, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm withdrawing this nomination. A few paragraphs of this article appears to be copy-&-pasted from an article from a Russian website, and therefore a copyvio. --PFHLai (talk) 16:16, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Tagged as under construction; don't use till it's done. Daniel Case (talk) 02:30, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Removed UC tag. Still a work in progress (as every article is), but the content stands on its own merit at this point. Resolute 14:11, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
I don't think this hook is correct. It was more like leaving Livingstone behind in the NHA, rather than to remove him from the NHA. Do you mean "the NHL was founded as a means to exclude Livingstone from being a club owner in North American professional ice hockey"? --PFHLai (talk) 16:30, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
File:Lord.JPG
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Hook fact is apparently uncited. Daniel Case (talk) 03:19, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

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