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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on May 18

• ... that the Jewish War Veterans of the United States of America, represented by the American Civil Liberties Union, were plantiffs in a lawsuits seeking the removal of the Mount Soledad cross? (self-nom) Neutrality 03:50, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 17

• ... that an accolade was a ceremony for knighthood in the Middle Ages which today means praise or an award? --Doug 23:08, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

→Another Brighton & Hove church with three possible hooks:

• ... that most of the interior of the 19th-century St Patrick's Church, Hove has been rebuilt as a 22-bed night shelter which includes "MiPods", a variation on the 1970s "sleep capsule" concept?
• ... that the extent to which music was used in services in the early years at St Patrick's Church, Hove led to it being referred to mockingly as "Paddy's Music Hall"?
• ... that the north window at St Patrick's Church, Hove—a memorial to its first curate, Dr James O'Brien, and his wife—was installed 14 years before they died?

Self-nom. I don't know if the ref is good for the first (it's to the shelter's charity's own website), although it's very interesting! The second is relatively unexciting. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 23:05, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that an April Fool's Day "news story" which talked about bull sharks in Minnehaha Creek drew almost 1,000 hits per day to the Nokomis East Neighborhood Association's website? new article

• ALT: ... that the Nokomis East Neighborhood Association hosts a 'Night Before New Year's Eve Party' on December 30th, with a new year's countdown at 8:00 pm? new article/nom by BobAmnertiopsis_{ChitChat Me!} 22:51, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that County Route S18 is one of four county routes in Orange County, California? Self nomination Dabbydabby (talk) 21:58, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the widespread Hylocomium splendens (glittering wood-moss, pictured) has anti-bacterial qualities? New article by Ben MacDui (talk · contribs), nominated by EncycloPetey (talk) 20:39, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
  • (alt. hook) ... that it is possible to estimate the age of a Stair-step Moss (Hylocomium splendens, pictured) by counting the number of "steps"? --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:44, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that Captain Richard Whitaker Porritt was the first British Member of Parliament to be killed in World War II? (self-nom)Kernel Saunters (talk) 19:38, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that Oladevi is worshiped as the Goddess of Cholera by both the Hindus and Muslims of Bengal and may have originated in the Indus Valley Civilization? Vishnava (talk) 19:00, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that Haridas was the last completed film of Kollywood icon M. K. Thyagaraja Bhagavathar prior to his arrest in the Lakshmikanthan Murder Case? - self-nom by -Ravichandar_{My coffee shop} 15:40, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that Caetano Veloso went through a long, involved design process to create the minimalist cover for his 2006 album cê? new article, self-nom. --Kakofonous (talk) 15:11, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that the châtelaine of Lissan House, Hazel Dolling always kept a chainsaw in the boot of her car while driving, in case trees had fallen on her mile-long avenue? (self-nom, moved from my sandbox today) EJF (talk) 13:26, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the two-inch tall people of the Teenie Weenies were a Chicago Tribune comic strip written by William Donahey for over 50 years? Double DYK submisssion, each article expanded 5 fold, by --Doug 12:44, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
• A few suggestions:
  • ... that the Northern Irish marilyn Slieve Gallion is a volcanic plug?
  • or ... that the Northern Irish marilyn Slieve Gallion is the eastern limit of the Sperrins range?
  • or ... that peat formed at the Northern Irish marilyn Slieve Gallion in the early Holocene period? (self-nom, moved from my sandbox today) EJF (talk) 10:53, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Reigate Heath Windmill (pictured) is the only windmill in the world that has been consecrated as a church? New article created on 17 May and self-nom by Mjroots (talk) 10:12, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that film director Goran Dukić chose only songs by musicians who had committed suicide to accompany his 2006 film Wristcutters: A Love Story, set in an afterworld reserved for suicide victims? (self-nom) —97198 talk 06:00, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service paid for the establishment of Muscatatuck National Wildlife Refuge, along the Muscatatuck River, by selling waterfowl stamps? (self-nom)--Bedford 05:46, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Henriade, an epic poem by French Enlightenment writer Voltaire, was written in honour of the life of Henry IV of France? (slef) -- Anonymous Dissident 03:31, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Colored Soldiers Monument (pictured) in Frankfort, Kentucky is the only one dedicated to black Union soldiers in Kentucky, and only one of four in the United States? (self-nom)--Bedford 01:05, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that the game fish the Atlantic bumper is only found in the Atlantic Ocean because its ecological niche is filled by the only other member of its genus elsewhere? selfnom Ryan shell (talk) 16:38, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Page Cortez, a Republican member of the Louisiana House of Representatives, gained vital name recognition in part from television ads promoting his furniture store?--self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 21:00, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Margie (ABC, 1961–1962) is one of the few network programs set during the Roaring Twenties, complete with jalopies, raccoon coats, period music, and references to flappers?--self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 03:38, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 16

• ... that cystatin C is a human protein studied as a biomarker of decreased kidney function and prognosis in cardiovascular diseases? Self nom (expanded > five-fold, previous version also had big chunk of automatically inserted text). --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 00:34, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that Republican Monty Warner called on his Democratic rival Joe Manchin to endorse George Bush for re-election during the 2004 West Virginia gubernatorial election? Self nom Davewild (talk) 12:08, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the colonial ghost town of Brunswick, North Carolina (pictured) was named after Braunschweig, Germany, the birthplace of Great Britain's King George I? (self-nom) APK 07:36, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that Nathan Daboll wrote the mathematics textbook most commonly used in American schools during the first half of the 19th century? -- new article self-nom by Rosiestep (talk) 05:10, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that a 12th century epigraph styles the Mahadeva temple (pictured) in Karnataka, India, as "The emperor among temples"?(self nom)Dineshkannambadi (talk) 02:27, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Alternate hook:
  • ... that the 12th century Mahadeva temple (pictured) is considered one of the finest monuments in Karnataka state, India?Dineshkannambadi (talk) 02:27, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Which article? Please mark the DYK article in bold. Also, include a note pointing to the picture you have included. Thus, it should look like this:

• ... that a 12th century epigraph styles the Mahadeva temple (pictured) in Karnataka, India, as "The emperor among temples"? The359 (talk) 04:33, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• Done.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 14:04, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the forced removal of 700,000 people from slums in Zimbabwe in 2005 was called "a crime against humanity" by the UN? I'm an Editorofthewiki 01:30, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that in addition to ballistics, the ballistic pendulum was also used by physicists to evaluate the elasticity and flight of golf balls? -- expanded 5x, self nominated by scot (talk) 21:37, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that Indo-Iraqi relations improved considerably after Iraq supported India's 1998 nuclear tests and its stand on the Kashmir dispute? Vishnava (talk) 17:34, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that the Coalición Obrera, Campesina, Estudiantil del Istmo (COCEI) was the first elected socialist municipal government in Mexico? (self-nom) --Grimlight (talk) 16:17, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
  • (alternate) ... that the Coalition of Workers, Peasants, and Students of the Isthmus (COCEI) was the first elected socialist municipal government in Mexico? (self-nom) --Grimlight (talk) 16:17, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that the Seaway Trail Discovery Center is one of the few attractions in the North Country, New York, that is open year-round? -- new article self-nom by _{TravellingCari} 15:50, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that a large part of the first vintage from the Spanish winery Dominio de Pingus was lost in 1997 when the transporting ship bound for the United States disappeared somewhere off the Azores in the North Atlantic Ocean? -- new article self-nom by MURGH 15:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that in 1882, German mathematician Friedrich Heinrich Albert Wangerin was appointed to the chair of ordinary professor at the University of Halle-Wittenberg, after that chair fell vacant because of the death of Eduard Heine, the former teacher of Wangerin? (self-nom) Masterpiece2000 (talk) 14:33, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• 217 character hook. "... that in 1882, German mathematician Friedrich Heinrich Albert Wangerin was appointed to the chair of ordinary professor at the University of Halle-Wittenberg after the chair was vacated by the death of Eduard Heine, Wangerin’s former teacher?" is 205 characters. If no other ways of shortening the hook can be found, removing his two middle names would bring it under 200 characters. Thingg 15:51, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• No, bringing it under 200 would take more than that because we include spaces when counting (see #Instructions). The first hook, for example, is 256 characters not 217. Art LaPella (talk) 21:43, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Alternative:

... that German mathematician Friedrich Heinrich Albert Wangerin wrote an important two volume treatise on potential theory and spherical functions, Theorie des Potentials und der Kugelfunktionen, in 1909 and 1921? Masterpiece2000 (talk) 06:03, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that, after more than one hundred editors supported his request for adminship, prolific DYK contributor User:Gatoclass has finally been made an administrator?
  • Thought this would be an appropriate way of bringing it to attention, even though it can't go on the main page! Bencherlite 10:18, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• Yay! BobAmnertiopsis_{ChitChat Me!} 11:13, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• That looks like a pretty reliable source to me! Thanks guys, couldn't have done it without you :) Gatoclass (talk) 11:45, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Why can't it go on the main page? It's long enough and the ref checks out! (lol) Mjroots (talk) 14:42, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

I've bolded the RFA instead of the log ;). Mjroots (talk) 14:46, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that after a chest injury, air can escape from the lungs and travel to the subcutaneous tissue of the skin, causing subcutaneous emphysema (pictured)? Self nom, moved from userspace today. By some bizarre cooincidence, Antelan created a stub a few days ago, so I histmerged them (but this is way over 5x the size, so could count as expansion instead). 5 alternate images available. delldot talk 06:50, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that a Confederate scouting party entered Indiana in June 1863 dressed as an Union army patrol searching for deserters? (self-nom)--Bedford 03:59, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Created this article especially to mark my 100th DYK.--Bedford 03:59, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Congrats on your 100th DYK (to be)! That is truly mind blowing. Minor thing: wouldn't it be "a Union Army patrol"? delldot talk 12:52, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, although I figured out last night that my 100th will actually be the Indiana State Parks one, which is suitable for 100 as well (I should have accredited myself with one I didn't.)--Bedford 15:55, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that in its 118 year history, the heritage listed Victoria Hotel in Darwin, Australia, has survived three major cyclones, Japanese air raids during WW2, and a soldiers' riot? (self-nom) Spy007au (talk) 02:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Samuel B. Huston (pictured) switched counties and political parties between two elections to the Oregon State Senate? (self) Aboutmovies (talk) 22:34, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that John George Adair in 1861 evicted some 150 poor tenants from their houses near his Glenveagh Castle in County Donegal, Ireland, to enhance the scenic beauty of the land?-- self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 22:41, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Polish-Russian relations really began with the Polish-Lithuanian union of Lublin in the 16th century, which marked the beginning of centuries of struggle over dominance of Central and Eastern Europe between Poland and Russia? --self-nom by _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 23:36, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment Relations between Poland and Russia are recorded from the 10th century. So how can such a thing be stated as a fact? Can you find a more concrete factual hook? Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 03:53, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
    • This hook is based on a statement by a historian (footnoted in the article). It is also not controversial (like a hook noting the importance of Polish capture of Moscow or Katyn invasion would be) or banal (as a hook stating the relations are important and suffer from ups and downs would be). Perhaps instead of "really began" we could write "took on a new importance" or something like that to indicate that yes, there were relations since 10th century, but they were not as crucial? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 19:47, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
      • I can find a similar statement in the source, but not the article. It is not controversial in the sense that it probably won't piss anyone off, but you can tell yourself it is could be misleading unless one follows the sources narrative with a great deal of insight. Not as crucial? I dunno. Several branches of the Riurikids greatly relied on Polish kinship links for their power in Rus, it was common for Rus' princes to pay the Polish king to act as a mercenary captain in the 11th century, regimes changed in Rus through this Polish intervention, the Rus put down a rebellion among the Mazovians, and one interpretation of a passage in the Byzantine De Administrando Imperio has the 10th century Poles as tributaries of the Rus. Less controversial than "really began with the" would be "entered a new era". I don't like this kind of assertion in DYKs - prefer concrete things - but this at least avoids some of the problems with the first suggestion.:) Regards, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 03:41, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that Many Happy Returns (CBS sitcom, 1964–1965) featured character actor John McGiver managing the complaint division of a fictitious California department store?--self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 03:20, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 15

• ... that Equality North Carolina was successful in getting the 2008 edition of the State Personnel manual to prohibit discrimination based on sexuality and gender identity? Self-nom. Winnifred-Ian-Leonard-Harry-Ellen-Lucy-Marilyn-Ingrid-Nora-Amanda Walter-Ira-Lauren-Lalla (talk) 00:31, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Please be reminded that a DYK article needs to have at least 1500 characters of prose to qualify. Equality North Carolina is currently too short, but there is ample time to expand the article before this nomination expires. --PFHLai (talk) 22:24, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Is it better now? The ''Gorgeous Girl''!!! (talk) 00:39, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

The article is 4076 bytes long, at the time I write this posting, and it is mainly taken up by context. Is the article long enough for Did You Know? yet? The ''Gorgeous Girl''!!! (talk) 02:36, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• Yes, it's long enough now, although it's 1973 bytes as we count them; see #Instructions. Art LaPella (talk) 04:18, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Saharan silver ant has several unique adaptations that led it to be called "one of the most heat-resistant animals known"? self-nom 141.211.120.201 (talk) 15:28, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

141.211.120.201, I'm not sure how you can self-nom without making any edits in this article. Are you Blasebbg (talk · contribs), Ziggy Sawdust (talk · contribs) or 98.224.226.1 (talk · contribs)? It looks like the {{UpdatedDYK}} banner should be posted on 98.224.226.1's usertalkpage when the time comes. --PFHLai (talk) 22:34, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the town of Melattur in Tamil Nadu, India is famous for its Bhagavathar Melas and an unique style of Bharatanatyam which is practised here? - (increased five-fold) self-nom by -Ravichandar_{My coffee shop} 11:46, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the only items found in the burial chamber of the Pyramid of Neferefre upon excavation were mummy fragments and broken canopic jars? (self nom) - Icewedge (talk) 03:46, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Welsh Tractarian priest John David Jenkins was known as the "Rail men's Apostle" for his ministry to railway workers, and became President of the Amalgamated Society of Railway Servants? new/self-nom. Bencherlite 00:05, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Indiana's state parks were initially designed more to preserve their natural state than to provide recreational activities? (self-nom)--Bedford 23:59, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Mary Roos represented Germany twice in the Eurovision Song Contest and took part in the German national final for the competition another three times? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Euro Mok (talk • contribs) 22:32, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Livermore Bridge is believed to be the only bridge in the world that starts and ends in the same county, yet passes over two rivers and a different county? (self-nom)--Bedford 20:35, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

But the article states 'It is believed to be the only bridge on Earth that begins and ends in the same county, crosses over two rivers (Green River and the Rough River, and passes over an entirely different county.' - implying the bridge is unique because it crosses all of these different things. At most it can only be said to claim that "'It is believed to be the only bridge in the world that starts and ends in the same county" - Benea (talk) 22:30, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Could we change the hook to read "it is probably the only bridge in the world..."? I'm not sure if hooks can be like that, but if it is allowed, I think it would be really cool to put that on the Main Page because I'm sure a lot of people would read it. Thingg 22:43, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

I changed the hook; how does it look?--Bedford 23:59, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Looks good! nice find. Thingg 16:04, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. It was indeed a nice find; I only found it due to being lost bewildered while traveling last Saturday.--Bedford 23:21, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the only peacetime George Cross won by a woman was awarded to Barbara Jane Harrison as a result of her actions during the fire on board BOAC Flight 712 on 8 April 1968? Article expanded on 15 May and self-nom by Mjroots (talk) 19:36, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the new Maoist-led government seeks to scrap Nepal's 1950 treaty with India, which sought to build strong Indo-Nepal relations to counter perceived threats from China? Expanded article - Vishnava (talk) 19:01, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that English musician and composer Charles Frederick Horn served as personal music tutor to Queen Charlotte? BuddingJournalist 18:50, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Woodhouse Grove School is a Methodist Church founded Independent School near Bradford in England and is an independent day and boarding school founded in 1812 for children between the ages of three and eighteen? Much expanded article (self nom) 21stCenturyGreenstuff (talk) 17:31, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Which article? The359 (talk) 18:18, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

I assume its the Woodhouse Grove School, but it doesn't look like this is a five-fold expansion within the last five days. BuddingJournalist 19:38, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

It does appear to be the Woodhouse article. I think it's skirting the edge of the 5-day rule (21stCenturyGreenstuff's edits to this article began on May 9th, but he really only reached 5x expansion today). However, the hook used here is poorly worded and uninteresting. It presents no unique factoid other than saying exactly what the school is. The359 (talk) 21:26, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that international airport project MIHAN, Nagpur is the biggest economical development project currently underway in India in terms of investment? --gppande «talk» 16:28, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Pickle Barrel House (pictured) is a two story cabin built in 1926 based on the comic strip of the Teenie Weenies that featured tiny people in a real world setting? Five fold expansion of article (self-nom) by --Doug 15:38, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

• ALT ... that the Pickle Barrel House (pictured) is a cabin built of two large barrels and is based on comic strip people that were two inches tall that lived under a rose bush in a pickle barrel? (self-nom) by --Doug 17:35, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that erotic sculptures found in the 11th century Tripurantaka Temple in Karnataka state, India, are considered rare in Chalukyan art?(self nom)Dineshkannambadi (talk) 19:25, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

• Who nominated this? BuddingJournalist 18:50, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the oldest courthouse west of the Allegheny Mountains (pictured) is in the historic district of Greensburg, Kentucky? (self-nom)--Bedford 05:31, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the armed merchant cruiser HMS Hector was in the process of being decommissioned when she was sunk in the Easter Sunday Raid? - new article, self nom, Benea (talk) 01:50, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that the Wallingford Tornado of 1878 was the deadliest tornado in Connecticut history, and the second deadliest ever to strike New England? - new article, self nom, RunningOnBrains 04:04, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that sociology in Poland was banned as a bourgeois science by the Polish communist government in the Stalinist period 1948–1956? --self-nom by _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 19:49, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the JA Ranch, which once encompassed 1,335,000 acres and 100,000 head of cattle in six counties, is the oldest working ranch in the Texas Panhandle and still owned by heirs of its founder?-- self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 00:48, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Henry Failing (pictured), one of the most prominent businessmen in the early days of Portland, Oregon, was elected to his second term as mayor of that city with only five dissenting votes? -- self nom Pete (talk)

• (alt.hook for simplicity)... that Henry Failing (pictured) was elected to his second term as mayor of Portland, Oregon with only five dissenting votes? --PFHLai (talk) 22:21, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Michael Anderson, Jr., and Barbara Hershey won Western Heritage Awards for their work on The Monroes, an ABC family series which ran only twenty-six weeks in the 1966–1967 season?-- self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 04:23, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that silver medalist Thomas Garrigus of Oregon was the youngest member of the 1968 U.S. Olympic Team at the Summer Games in Mexico City? (self) Aboutmovies (talk) 20:24, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 14

• ... that Scotty Bowman (pictured) is the only Sabres coach to have won the Jack Adams Award, an honor given annually to the National Hockey League coach "adjudged to have contributed the most to his team's success"? Five fold expansion. Self nom. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 22:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Holy Roman Emperor Maximilian I commissioned The Triumphal Arch (pictured), a monumental woodcut print over 3½ m tall and nearly 3 m wide printed from 192 separate wood blocks? -- Theramin (talk) 23:18, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

  Date and length fine, but hook lacks inline citation per the criteria. Olaf Davis | Talk 12:12, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that John Benjamin Murphy was the first proponent of appendectomies as an intervention for signs of appendicitis?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 19:18, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

• Verified length, date and ref. Olaf Davis | Talk 20:32, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the last man to be be gibbetted in Derbyshire was hung in chains near Wardlow and Wardlow Mires (pictured) because he had the tollkeeper's red shoes? self nom Victuallers (talk) 18:30, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

• How about "... that the last man to be gibbetted in Derbyshire was found guilty of murdering the tollkeeper at Wardlow and Wardlow Mires (pictured) because her red shoes were found at his house?" - I think it's a bit clearer.
• Verified length, date and ref. Olaf Davis | Talk 20:32, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that makers of Chantilly lace (pictured) were guillotined during the French Revolution because they were seen as protégés of the royals? self nom, 10x expansion. Loggie (talk) 12:34, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Cardiff Athletic Club owns the world famous Cardiff Arms Park rugby ground (pictured), not the Cardiff Blues who play on it? - new article, self nom, Seth Whales (talk) 08:56, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

"world famous"? POV/PEACOCK? --74.14.17.189 (talk) 14:13, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

The assertion of "world famous" is be backed up by this page (scroll to number 40), but the site appears to be relatively old. Could you possibly find another, more recent citation for the fact? Thingg 23:23, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

What assertion of "world famous"? That's still somebody's POV. --74.14.21.98 (talk) 02:10, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

More citations..."arguably rugby union's most famous stadium" (BBC), "Overshadowed by the Millennium Stadium, the Blues' stadium is next door, both of course built in the world famous Cardiff Arms Park", "The Arms Park...the venue is among the most famous in the world" (Cardiff RFC), "The Arms Park, one of rugby union’s most famous grounds" (Welsh Rugby Union) Wales play their home games...at the world famous Cardiff Arms Park (www.rugby15.co.uk) and "The Millennium Stadium is built on the site of the world famous Cardiff Arms Park rugby stadium" (www.geometry.net)...hopefully this is will help. Seth Whales (talk) 09:04, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

You're citing people's opinion. In a single sentence on the mainpage, it's WP:PEACOCK-ish, too. Try describing what makes it famous, instead. --74.13.129.229 (talk) 12:55, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Just so you are aware, if a statement that is ...for lack of a better term... lofty/exclamatory is backed up by reliable sources, which Seth has provided, it is permissible. He doesn't have enough room to explain why it is world-famous in a >200 character hook. If a reader wonders why it is world famous, they can go to the article and find out that the stadium has what was once the world's largest retractable roof. The reason he did not put that fact in the hook is the article is not about the stadium, it is about the club that owns the stadium. Looks good to me. Thingg 16:16, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Permissible POV in the article is not good enough for the main page. You'll get room if you drop the Blues from the hook. --74.13.129.175 (talk) 18:53, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ALT:... that Cardiff Athletic Club owns the Cardiff Arms Park rugby ground (pictured), and is a large shareholder the Cardiff Blues who play on it? --74.13.129.175 (talk) 18:53, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• (alt.hook)... that attempts to merge Cardiff Rugby Football Club and Cardiff Cricket Club in Cardiff, Wales to form Cardiff Athletic Club began as early as 1892, but were unsuccessful till 1922? --PFHLai (talk) 21:56, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Haley Barbour became only the second Republican Governor of Mississippi since Reconstruction after winning the 2003 Mississippi gubernatorial election? Davewild (talk) 07:19, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that G1.9+0.3 is the youngest known supernova remnant in the Milky Way? -- new article by Rlorenc (talk · contribs) & Kevyn (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 19:18, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

1400 characters. Thingg 23:14, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

I count 1600+ characters. --PFHLai (talk) 16:43, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

hmm... maybe I'm doing it wrong, but I got 1410 characters. There are 1685 characters including spaces. I can't remember, do we count spaces? Thingg 16:52, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

AFAIK, yes, we do count spaces. --PFHLai (talk) 16:57, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

ahehheh... yeah, I just saw that. Sorry about that. Thingg 16:59, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

No problem! :-) --PFHLai (talk) 21:56, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that 22-year-old Ling Ling was the oldest panda in Japan at the time of his death in April 2008? -- new article by Scanlan (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 06:40, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Date, ref, and length verified. Thingg 23:14, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Referencing article appears to have been taken down. Thingg 01:39, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. The free news link to LA Times has expired. I just threw in a link to the google cache, as well as two other news links, hopefully stable enough as a remedy. --PFHLai (talk) 21:40, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Gauliga was a German football league system introduced by the Nazis after they took over the country in 1933? -- new article by EA210269 (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 06:34, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that in 1876, British barrister, publicist, and historian Edwin Pears, as correspondent of The Daily News, sent letters home describing Muslim atrocities in Bulgaria which aroused popular demonstrations in England led by William Gladstone? (self-nom) Masterpiece2000 (talk) 06:21, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the WF01, the first racing car built by Embassy Racing, was named after team founder Jonathan France's recently born son? (self-nom) The359 (talk) 04:32, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Edward Lamson Henry paid such close attention to detail that his nostalgic paintings of agrarian America (pictured) were considered authentic historical reconstructions? (Self-nom. Expanded from a {{1911}} stub into a real article! I don't believe there are any COI concerns here, as I did not create the article and I think notability and such is quite clear. --JayHenry (talk) 02:39, 15 May 2008 (UTC) )

• Verified length, date and ref. What COI did you think there might be? Are you related to him? Olaf Davis | Talk 20:32, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

• His blood is in my veins ;) Died before even my grandparents were born. When I realized he already had an article I set about fixing it up with reliable sources and uploading some of his art, like I would with any subject that interests me (and have done before on many topics). I left the note as I didn't want anyone to think I was being sneaky about it, and to make sure it got that extra once over. --JayHenry (talk) 21:37, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that despite being the first hot blast iron furnace in Centre County, Pennsylvania, Bellefonte Furnace was idle for more than six of its first ten years of existence? (self-nom) Choess (talk) 23:57, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that by the end of the Second World War 60,968 ratings had passed through the Royal Navy stone frigate HMS Ganges (pictured)? - self nom, new article, Benea (talk) 23:28, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Dr. Peter Pronovost, an intensive care physician at Johns Hopkins Hospital, helped save 1500 lives and $100 million in a 2003 medical study by the use of simple checklists? new/self-nom Smallbones (talk) 20:36, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Welsh lawyer Edward Wynne was, in 1714, the first landowner to grow turnips on Anglesey? new/self-nom. Bencherlite 19:14, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Hooper-Bowler-Hillstrom House features an indoor well pump, but a five-hole, two-story outhouse connected to the house via a skyway? - self-nom by Appraiser (talk) 19:06, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Andrus Planetarium, first added to the Hudson River Museum (pictured) in 1969 to celebrate the space age, is the only public planetarium in Westchester County and its laser shows are credited with the museum's 31% increase in attendance in the 1990s, almost 20 years later? Article expanded on 14 May and self nom by _{TravellingCari} 16:56, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

• Looks like vast improvement but length is increased less than 4x. Standard is usually 5x or more, eh? —Wknight94 (talk) 20:33, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

• whoops, guess my math was off. Sorry about that. Somehow I did ~8/1.6 and got 5. Back to elementary school for me. _{TravellingCari} 20:53, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

• Correct me if I'm wrong (I don't play in here too often) but I think only content is counted, not references, etc. If so, then the length went from a bit over 900 to under 3,300. If I'm splitting hairs, someone more experienced here please overrule because it's a much nicer article now. —Wknight94 (talk) 21:05, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

• Wknight94 is correct: see #Instructions. My count is 3115/904=3.45. Also, it's a 282 character hook. Art LaPella (talk) 21:13, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I goofed. I can live with that. I'm just happy the article is better, DYK would have been an added bonus. _{TravellingCari} 21:30, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Outwood Windmill (pictured) is the oldest working windmill in the United Kingdom, having been built the year before the Great Fire of London? Article expanded on 14 May and self-nom by Mjroots (talk) 15:31, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that lithophane (pictured) is an etched artwork in porcelain that can only be seen clearly when back lit with a light source? New article - self nominated by --Doug 14:59, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

  Alt ... that lithophane (pictured) is an etched artwork in porcelain that can only be seen clearly when back lit with a light source and sometimes in German beer steins revealed risque images at the bottom? New article - self nominated by --Doug 16:08, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

  Alt ... that lithophane (pictured) is an etched artwork in porcelain that can only be seen clearly when back lit with a light source and in Japan in the early 1900s was called Dragonware that revealed geishas? New article - self nominated by --Doug 16:20, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that music printer Robert Birchall published the first English edition of Johann Sebastian Bach's Well-Tempered Clavier (pictured) in 1810? Self-nom BuddingJournalist 11:28, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

• Looks like the image is rather incomprehensible at this low resolution. Feel free to remove it if desired. BuddingJournalist 11:33, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

• Hook and length verified, but in the article the hook has no inline citation directly after it. Could this be looked at? BG7 14:40, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

• It's "covered" by the citation following the subsequent sentence, but I've copied over the citation again for the sentence that the hook refers to. Does this resolve the issue? BuddingJournalist 15:52, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

• Yep that's fine! BG7

• ... that the Wallowa-Whitman National Forest (pictured) in Oregon is home to a small population of wolverines, which are rare within the United States? (collaboration of the week at WikiProject Oregon) Northwesterner1 (talk) 10:10, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
  • It's not bad but would be better if the hook could be clarified more in the article, and have an inline citation after it. BG7 14:40, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
    • Done. Northwesterner1 (talk) 17:52, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
      • Looks good. Thingg 16:49, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Edmund Graves Brown, a member of the Louisiana Ewing newspaper family, was a U.S. Army officer in the Battle of the Bulge in 1944? -- self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 15:43, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Run, Buddy, Run, a 1966 CBS sitcom, featured Jack Sheldon fleeing from the mob after he overhears a gangster during a steam bath plotting a murder?--self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 18:41, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Brian Ferneyhough's New Complexity song cycle, Etudes Transcendantales uses nested tuplets such as dotted-11:6 within 5:4 in a 2/10 time signature! -- nom of a User:Ekawolfram, a student. (Note that the rhythmic part of the hook is based just on looking at the first measure of the score and doesn't rely on any interpretation by Richard Toop or the article author. It's a bit like saying "... that Beethoven's Für Elise begins on an E", completely verifiable from a glance at the score) -- Myke Cuthbert (talk) 21:24, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the ethnic population of Omaha, Nebraska, including new and first generation immigrants, comprised fifty percent of that city's population in the 1920s? • Freechild'sup? 10:15, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 13

• ... that Jordanian politician Sa`id al-Mufti's wife continued living in the Al-Mufti House (pictured) after his death? New article and awesome picture by Ldud w/ nom by BobAmnertiopsis_{ChitChat Me!} 20:15, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that in the 1430s Ashina Morihisa, the 10th feudal lord of the Ashina clan, kept Aizu Matsudaira's Royal Garden (pictured) as a villa believing it to be a sacred place? -- new article self-nom by Brian Adler (talk) 13:10, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Alternate hook: ... that the pond of the Aizu Matsudaira's Royal Garden is shaped like the Chinese character for heart (心)? — Dulcem (talk) 07:05, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that the tiny Musselburgh and Fisherrow Co-operative Society sold food in the small Scottish town of Musselburgh for over 140 years before beginning a process of demutualization in 2005? -- self nom, new article by Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 12:39, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that the Caprock Chief was a proposed passenger train which would have connected Fort Worth, Texas and Denver, Colorado via the Texas Panhandle? -- self nom, new article -- Mackensen (talk) 12:25, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that Malcolm Baker won a national championship in rowing as a freshman at Brown University although he never rowed in high school?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 08:44, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
  • (alt)... that Malcolm Baker helped the University of Cambridge beat the University of Oxford in rowing for only the second time in eighteen attempts?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 08:44, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that golfer Edith Cummings (pictured) was the first female athlete to appear on the cover of Time magazine and the inspiration for a character in The Great Gatsby? (Self-nom. Just realized that this image is in the public domain in the U.S. --JayHenry (talk) 05:39, 14 May 2008 (UTC))

• ... that for 25 years, Jack O'Brien conducted two parallel directing careers: Broadway musicals in New York City and Shakespeare in San Diego, California? -- expanded article - self nom. -- Ssilvers (talk) 00:39, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Aaron Lopez (pictured), who wasn't allowed to become a citizen of Colonial Rhode Island because he was Jewish, became Newport's wealthiest resident? — new article self-nom by — ] (] · ]) 22:17, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
  • (alt) ... that Aaron Lopez (pictured), who left Portugal because he couldn't practice Judaism openly there, wasn't allowed to become a citizen of Colonial Rhode Island because he was Jewish?
  • (alt) ... that Aaron Lopez (pictured), who left Portugal for Colonial Rhode Island so he could openly practice Judaism, wasn't allowed to become a citizen of Rhode Island because he was Jewish?
    • How about ... that although Aaron Lopez (pictured) was prohibited from becoming a citizen of Colonial Rhode Island because he was Jewish, he later became Newport's wealthiest resident? Either is fine, but the first fact was the most interesting to me. Thingg 17:07, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
      • That's very good. I like it better than the ones I suggested. — ] (] · ]) 00:56, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that before 1 January 2008, milk with a fat content of 1 or 2% could not be labelled as milk in the United Kingdom? -- new article (partially an expansion of a section of Milk - although DYO fact is amongst the new material) - self-nom by LHMike (talk) 21:11, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Botswana National Museum is the caretaker of Tsholofelo Park, the burial place of Negro of Banyoles, known as "El Negro" in Botswana, following the body's return from the Darder Museum of Banyoles, in Spain? New article created on 13 May by User:BLOFELD of Spectre, expanded by _{TravellingCari} 20:25, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Henry Roth is the mentor to contestants of Project Runway Australia, similar to what Tim Gunn is in the the American version?

Created Page Today, included several references.<3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 20:05, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

• • • Wrong Henry Roth; this one's a dead American writer. —97198 talk 07:20, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Removed hook and article links. Will possibly create article at a later date. <3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 13:06, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that a year after conducting rival nuclear tests, India and Pakistan issued the 1999 Lahore Declaration, committing to develop confidence-building measures and safeguards to prevent nuclear conflict? Expanded article - Vishnava (talk) 19:07, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that St Leonard's Mill, Winchelsea was named after the church that it stood on the site of? New article created on 13 May and self-nom by Mjroots (talk) 17:56, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Patcham Windmill (pictured) was the last windmill built in Sussex? New article created on 13 May and self-nom by Mjroots (talk) 17:52, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

*... that before Dr. Seuss's Yertle the Turtle and Other Stories was published by Random House, a meeting had to be held because it contained the word "burp", which was then considered vulgar? — (not entirely sure about the wording, please suggest) self-nom, Mr. Absurd (talk) 05:25, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

perhaps:

... that a meeting had to be held before Dr. Seuss's Yertle the Turtle and Other Stories was published by Random House as it contained the word "burp", which was then considered vulgar?

Hows that for an alt hook?

however, i'm not too sure that it meets DYK's guidelines. It's not new, and it doesnt' appear to have expanded five-fold. BG7 10:57, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

• BG7 is correct. The article is neither new nor a fivefold expansion, as specified at #Instructions. Art LaPella (talk) 00:58, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that film star Tim Matheson's first acting role was as a 13-year-old on the Robert Young 1961–1962 CBS comedy-drama series, Window on Main Street?--self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 20:35, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Pontius Pilate's wife is a saint in the Greek Orthodox and Ethiopian Orthodox churches? - selfnom Ecoleetage (talk) 23:35, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Preexisting article that has only had a ~25% increase in readable text, far short of the fivefold expansion called for in the #Instructions. --Allen3  14:32, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Oregon Korean War Memorial was not built until nearly 50 years after the Korean War began? (self) Aboutmovies (talk) 20:20, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Expiring noms

Articles created/expanded on May 12

• ... that despite its name, Kentucky's Union County was far more Confederate during the War? (self-nom)--Bedford 14:27, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

I thought the irony would make a great hook.--Bedford 14:27, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it does, and the sources back it up. But maybe we should rewrite this so someone reading on it would know we were talking about a monument, not the county's Civil War history (which was my guess prior to mousing over the link) and make the irony implicit. Let's try:

... that Union County, Kentucky, largely supported the Confederacy in the Civil War and built a monument to its Confederate dead (pictured) afterwards? Daniel Case (talk) 14:20, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Works for me.--Bedford 15:52, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the engineer's report for an attempt at draining and development of the Everglades in 1912 was riddled with errors, but advertised by real estate developers? new: self-nom --Moni3 (talk) 00:45, 12 May 2008 (UTC) (Note to checkers per the suggestion of User:Gatoclass: Draining and development of the Everglades was posted prior to information from that article being added to the Everglades article. --Moni3 (talk) 16:29, 12 May 2008 (UTC))

• ... that the Otis Smith Kids Foundation helped disadvantaged children in the areas of education, personal development and recreation? Created by User:Mgreason, nom by User:RyRy5. -- RyRy5 (talk ♠ Review) 01:14, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Length and reference verified. However, this is a dull hook (and I had to remove a paragraph that, while sourced, was taking a potshot at Smith). How about:

... that Orlando Magic general manager Otis Smith ran a children's charity in his native Jacksonville for two decades? Daniel Case (talk) 14:03, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Eddy Shell, a Louisiana educator and local politician, was in the 1950s the youngest Eagle Scout in Arkansas?--self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 17:56, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
• Everything's fine, except refs need to be formatted. Use {{cite web|url=|title=|date=|accessdate=|publisher=|last=|first=}} for this. Then, it will be eligible for DYK. Thanks! BobAmnertiopsis_{ChitChat Me!} 20:31, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

• • {{cite web}}: Empty citation (help)

Template:Http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080508/OBITUARIES01/805080334/1060/NEWS01= (I couldn't figure this out.)Billy Hathorn (talk) 01:05, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Cecil Williams, a Louisiana business journalist, worked prior to World War II in Kentucky coal mines delivering dynamite and blasting caps to miners?--self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 17:56, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
  • needs some more referencing and references need to be cleaned up... also, I am not sure a telephone number is a valid source at all... it seems very original research. gren グレン 00:34, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

I removed the part about party and use of the phone number. Billy Hathorn (talk) 01:06, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Alexandria Daily Town, the principal newspaper of Central Louisiana, was established by Irish immigrants on St. Patrick's Day in 1883? --self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 00:46, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Nearest footnote says nothing about paper's founding. Daniel Case (talk) 13:51, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Irish in Omaha, Nebraska were singled out by the American Protective Association for racist exclusion from public office in the 1890s? (self-nom) • Freechild'sup? 13:47, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

• Date and length verified, but I'm not sure about the ref because it is cited to a book I do not own. Not sure if that's a problem or not. Thingg 23:25, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 11

• ... that during the digging of the foundations of the Beacon Mill (pictured) a smock mill at Rottingdean, Sussex, England a human skeleton was found.? By user:Mjroots. Nom by « Milk's Favorite Cookie 01:30, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Too short. Daniel Case (talk) 14:32, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the USS Boy Scout (SP-53) was a ship named for the Boy Scouts?

• This article currently isn't long enough for Did You Know. See #Instructions for details. Art LaPella (talk) 06:27, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Frank Reaugh, landscape artist of the American West, died in poverty in 1945 because he gave away most of his art which promoted the theme of pastoral harmony in nature?--self-nom, revised and expanded from a stub Billy Hathorn (talk) 20:31, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Again a hook writes a check the article can't cash. The article and source confirms that he gave away a lot of his work, but says nothing about "dying in poverty". So how about:

... that landscape painter Frank Reaugh kept a lifelong vow to always live in Texas after moving there from Illinois? Daniel Case (talk) 14:20, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Can't verify either hook. Gatoclass (talk) 03:58, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Ellis Rimmer played three international matches, his last being just before his 25th birthday in December of 1931 against the Spain national football team? Created by User:Mick Knapton nom by User:RyRy5. -- RyRy5 (talk ♠ Review) 22:05, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Further than what? Metros (talk) 22:13, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
    • I removed "Further on." -- RyRy5 (talk ♠ Review) 01:18, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the nom: I'm sure a better hook would be:

• ... that Ellis Rimmer when playing for Sheffield Wednesday in 1935 became one of only twelve players who have scored in every round of the FA Cup? Regard Mick Knapton (talk) 08:20, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Discussion forums are usually not considered reliable sources. Daniel Case (talk) 14:13, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

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