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*... that ''']''' in ] is the birthplace of kittenball, a forerunner of modern ]? Self-nom by ] <sup>]</sup> 18:59, 22 May 2008 (UTC) *... that ''']''' in ] is the birthplace of kittenball, a forerunner of modern ]? Self-nom by ] <sup>]</sup> 18:59, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
::] Length, reference and date verified. ] | ] 09:19, 25 May 2008 (UTC) :] Length, reference and date verified. ] | ] 09:19, 25 May 2008 (UTC)


*... that in the 1760's, ''']''' and his sons joined the ] movement, and were imprisoned by colonial authorities for their preachings? Self-nom. ] (]) 06:45, 21 May 2008 (UTC) *... that in the 1760's, ''']''' and his sons joined the ] movement, and were imprisoned by colonial authorities for their preachings? Self-nom. ] (]) 06:45, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
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(alternatively) ... that due to its simplicity torchon lace is the first bobbin lace that many lace makers learn to make?
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Since the sources are in Norwegian I can verify the article accuracy and the reliability of the references. Rettetast (talk) 12:50, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

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Articles created/expanded on May 23

Or maybe this one which has a somewhat more intelligible image but not so well known shape
NPOV?! These were Polish terrorists acts in Germany. -- Matthead  Discuß   18:21, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom-fighter.
There is an English-language source cited; and in any case, WP:V does not state that only English-language sources may be used. Moreover, non-English-language source material can certainly be translated and verified. Nihil novi (talk) 08:45, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
(alt hook) *... that Bethel officials hope the Museum at Bethel Woods will help improve tourism in the area, which has suffered since the decline of the Borscht Belt? TravellingCari 13:42, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Not sure about the reference, but the length is good. The fact she was the first American-born female pirate might be her more notable claim.--Bedford 01:12, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
ALT:
I'd go with a combination...
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  • Actually, any area of the Earth gets 6 months of daylight per year (neglecting the atmosphere, which increases that figure). The article supports the daylight claim but its reference doesn't mention months of daylight. I think the real source is a misinterpretation of Baffin Island#Climate, which says "Clyde River experiences continuous sunlight from May 14 to July 28, a period of 2 1/2 months". First, the word "continuous" is missing from the hook. Second, the 2 1/2 month figure applies only to the town of Clyde River. The southern part of Baffin Island is south of the Arctic Circle and doesn't get the midnight sun that occurs closer to the poles. Art LaPella (talk) 22:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC) Fixed. Art LaPella (talk) 05:14, 24 May 2008 (UTC)


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Sir Ralph Fitzherbert in his armour
Sir Ralph Fitzherbert in his armour

Articles created/expanded on May 22

Green Sea Urchin (Strongylocentrotus droebachiensis)
Green Sea Urchin (Strongylocentrotus droebachiensis)

Articles created/expanded on May 21

  • ... that when a painting by comic book creator John Stanley recreating one of his covers for Little Lulu was used for the cover of the Overstreet Comic Book Price Guide in 2005 the hard cover edition sold out on the day the Guide was released and the soft cover version sold out two days later?
Double "close"? --74.13.130.176 (talk) 05:57, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
:) Thanks! Vishnava(talk) 12:13, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
How about "to commemorate" instead of "to memorialize"? --74.13.130.176 (talk) 05:56, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Benedict Arnold
Benedict Arnold

Articles created/expanded on May 20

Length, reference and date verified. Olaf Davis | Talk 09:19, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Date and length fine, reference exists. Olaf Davis | Talk 09:22, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Mary Shelley
Mary Shelley
  • ... that the Dictionary of Information Security by Robert Slade has five forewords? -self-nom, new article.
Minor disclaimer re: COI, once in the past week I saw an editor mention WP:COI here because they were related to the subject of their article: Mr. Slade mentioned me in one of his books, not this one, and besides one or two emails, I have never met him. Thanks. —SusanLesch (talk) 22:52, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
  • ... that World War II fighter ace Franz Barten is credited for shooting down a total of 55 enemy aircraft?
or,
(alt hook)*... that Major William Herwerth died while on duty as lighthouse keeper at Bluff Point Light in 1881? new, self nom TravellingCari 19:53, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
  • I think this is a POV. They are accused by who? Accused by Indian intelligence? Have they admitted to have a tie with ISI? If not, then why would a POV allegation be an interesting fact? --Ragib (talk) 18:18, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
I agree that it is a loaded statement. Thus, I've changed the nom altogether. Vishnava(talk) 18:41, 20 May 2008 (UTC
New version *... that Bangladeshi intelligence agencies are responsible for gathering foreign intelligence, military intelligence as well as monitoring internal security? Vishnava(talk) 18:53, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
The new version sounds fine by me. --Ragib (talk) 18:51, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Article as written seems to fail WP:Band notability tests. --Stlemur (talk) 18:44, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
What? No, it meets criteria 1 (subject of multiple non-trivial published works - see articles in Guardian and Times), 11 (Has been placed in rotation nationally by any major radio network - see appearances on BBC Electric Proms). Neıl 07:01, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
With the addition of those sources I agree it meets (1), thinly. --Stlemur (talk) 08:12, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Those sources have been in the article since it was created. Please review articles more carefully. Neıl 17:02, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Respectfully, those links are such brief summaries that it's only by a generous intepretation of the guidelines that you could call the two brief reviews "multiple independent sources". I know we're not talking a FAC here but given the band's schedule I worry we might be inadvertently promoting them. --Stlemur (talk) 09:21, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 05:01, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Length and reference verified. Footnote should point to page 6, not page 13. Daniel Case (talk) 04:59, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 04:55, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 04:50, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Expiring noms

Articles created/expanded on May 19

Currently up for AfD and therefore can't appear on the main page. I also unbolded the link to Morehouse College since it's not the new article. Olaf Davis | Talk 15:31, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Alt hook (moving an item that I added here independently -- not saying my hook is better, just putting them next to each other for comparison. -Pete (talk) 01:03, 22 May 2008 (UTC))


Too short. Daniel Case (talk) 14:04, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
OK, this one's good to go. Daniel Case (talk) 23:30, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Half the article is a bulleted list; the rest is too short. Also, reading it you'd expect the article in question to be about the ship, not the company. Can it possibly be researched and expanded to the point that a new hook could be written about the company itself rather than one of its ships? Daniel Case (talk) 13:47, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Can the article state this clearly and cite it somewhere? Daniel Case (talk) 13:43, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Let's use some word other than "hustled" — it can be read as pejorative and POV. Daniel Case (talk) 09:55, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Jacopo Sannazaro
Jacopo Sannazaro
Verified date, five-fold expansion, and that refs exist. —SusanLesch (talk) 00:13, 25 May 2008 (UTC)


Unreferenced, and tagged as such. Daniel Case (talk) 09:51, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Too short and no inline ref. Daniel Case (talk) 09:50, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Length and reference verified. But can't this hook focus on the zoo itself, rather than the new safari park? Daniel Case (talk) 09:49, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
This hook appears to be reporting some old sports news. Anything more interesting from this annual game? --74.14.17.166 (talk) 18:21, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Admiral Sir John Moore
Admiral Sir John Moore
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Editor with ODNB access will need to verify. Daniel Case (talk) 09:46, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues One source that would support this says nothing about Gannett (the Brown obit); the other one 404s. Daniel Case (talk) 09:36, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
No cite for hook fact, and IMdB sources given for other footnotes aren't acceptable. Daniel Case (talk) 09:32, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Dow Ber Meisels
Dow Ber Meisels
Hook lacks inline citations. Olaf Davis | Talk 08:53, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
It had over a dozen for the past few days, with almost every fact referenced individually...--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 15:03, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
OK, I found it. Make sure the fact is cited when it appears in the hook. Daniel Case (talk) 23:22, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
  • ... that it is since Jayadeva Goswami wrote a famous poem Gita Govinda in the twelfth century of the Common Era, that the topic of the spiritual loving affair between the divine Radha Krishna, has become a theme celebrated throughout India for many centuries in ritual, festival, and all the arts?
  • 294 character hook. Also, "between the divine Radha Krishna" doesn't make sense in English. Between the divine Radha Krishna and whom? The article implies "Radha Krishna" means "Radha and Krishna", but Americans don't know that, and they would assume Radha Krishna is one being. Art LaPella (talk) 00:38, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
  • I confess to being a little confused by this also. Surely Radha and Krishna are two deities, Radha being the consort of Krishna? The article itself also seems to be confused as to whether it is referring to one deity or two. Gatoclass (talk) 09:48, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 18

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