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*... that ]’s architectural design was named as the best for ''']'''? self nom ]. Alternatives are welcome, ] (]) 13:53, 27 May 2008 (UTC) *... that ]’s architectural design was named as the best for ''']'''? self nom ]. Alternatives are welcome, ] (]) 13:53, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


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*... that the ''']''' is part of ] that have been reclassified three times since 1850? -- <strong>]</strong>] 08:15, 27 May 2008 (UTC) *... that the ''']''' is part of ] that have been reclassified three times since 1850? -- <strong>]</strong>] 08:15, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


*... that the ] ''']''' ''(pictured)'' has been used as a Masonic lodge, opera house, and nightclub, and is now the home of the ] television show? new article, self nom. by ] (]) 07:32, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

*... that ''']''' is considered to be a ] that supports the hypothesis offered by ], that frogs and salamanders had a common ancestor? Created on the 22nd; expanded on the 24th. Self-nom. ] (]) 02:10, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
:] Length and reference verified. ] (]) 03:24, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
*... <s>that ] and ] had a ''']''' over ] and ]?</s> -- <s>new</s> article started by {{user| Seletar}}, nom. by ] (]) 23:04, 25 May 2008 (UTC) *... <s>that ] and ] had a ''']''' over ] and ]?</s> -- <s>new</s> article started by {{user| Seletar}}, nom. by ] (]) 23:04, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
:{{n}} Nomination withdrawn. Too much of the ] article came from an of the ] article. --] (]) 02:37, 26 May 2008 (UTC) :{{n}} Nomination withdrawn. Too much of the ] article came from an of the ] article. --] (]) 02:37, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on May 29

Articles created/expanded on May 28

St. Mary's Church, Chepstow
St. Mary's Church, Chepstow
— Cheers, JackLee 22:42, 28 May 2008 (UTC) (Created and nominated article.)
Lengthen and reference good, but some might have a problem of putting an "ad" on the front page. Not me, really, but there might be some issue from others here.--Bedford 02:57, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
File:White-throated Treecreeper kobble.jpg

Two possibilities here:

Articles created/expanded on May 27

The virginals, a keyboard instrument
The virginals, a keyboard instrument
What about "... that one theory why the virginals (pictured) was so called was that the keyboard instrument was often played by young girls?" — Cheers, JackLee 03:12, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Length and ref OK, but was there a need to make this a separate page from Pike Place Market?--Bedford 05:24, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
I realize that, as I read both articles. I am just wondering if a spin-off was needed. I'm not particular against this article per se, but I am curious what others think.--Bedford 05:41, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
  • After talking to my wife about the Pike Place Market, which is 25 miles from here, we agreed that making 1/4 of the Pike Place Market article be about the fish store would be disproportionate. Although fish throwing and TV ads make the fish store more well-known than others, there are hundreds of similar stores at the market. Art LaPella (talk) 05:57, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Well, there are only three fishmongers in the market, but there are "hundreds" of stores total--the Pike Place Market covers about six city blocks, and has 3-4 floors in some of the blocks. But not many of them are nearly as notable as Pike Place Fish Market, with books, films, and numerous media appearances. And none of them really draw massive crowds that all but back up traffic... rootology (T) 06:17, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Yes, that's true. It's Medal of Honor, but more popularly known as Congressional MofH because the award is "in the name of Congress" JGHowes - 13:27, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Our practice is to use the official name, which doesn't include "Congressional" (see the article; when it ran on the Main Page as an FA that was used). The AP Stylebook gives similar advice to newspaper and magazine writers. I believe DoD also just refers to it as the MoH. Daniel Case (talk) 14:40, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Dan, I just went back and looked at the discussion here and it appears there are views on both sides. Personally, I don't feel strongly one way or the other. For DYK, it seems to me that the name most familiar to the general public (albeit technically questionable) would be the strongest hook but, as I say, I'm certainly agreeable to deletion of "Congressional", so I've revised the hook and the article Lead accordingly.JGHowes - 19:40, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
  • ... that the anti-aircraft firing by which World War II German fighter ace Walter Zellot was killed, is often considered to be friendly fire?
or,
or,
File:Rhcplive1991.jpg
Not according to Laurence Olivier chronology of stage and film performances, which I'm afraid I trust more than your ref. It was at least his 4th, and not even his first starring role as he had just played the hero in Beau Geste. Johnbod (talk) 00:36, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
alternatively :
Strictly true, but reads a bit oddly since way the most famous is Brecht's The Caucasian Chalk Circle, written in German. "European versions" for "English language revisions" is better, no? Johnbod (talk) 00:29, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Selfnom; bluefying a minor red link from a FAC nomination, and finding it surprisingly interesting. --GRuban (talk) 16:32, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 26

OR



Articles created/expanded on May 25

Sir Brooke Boothby by Joseph Wright of Derby
Sir Brooke Boothby by Joseph Wright of Derby
DeCou House
DeCou House
Dried teasel pod
Dried teasel pod
File:Udupi balakrishna.jpg
(slightly smaller number of characters, one sentence, and should appear smaller)Bless sins (talk) 06:03, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Bless sins (talk) 06:08, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Comment: Looks like this is a duplicate of Cornelis Jol Kernel Saunters (talk) 20:56, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
Invalid Well, darn, so it is. Someone's redirected it already, I see - sorry for the mistake, I didn't think to check for alternate spellings. Hersfold non-admin 01:55, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
File:Tama the Stationmaster in her Stationmaster Hat.jpg
It is a so funny article, so I present an alternative hook for it. --Appletrees (talk) 14:19, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 24

Red XN Nomination withdrawn. Too much of the Pedra Branca dispute article came from an older version of the Pedra Branca, Singapore article. --PFHLai (talk) 02:37, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 03:22, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Length/date ok. Hook lacks the inline citation. --Rosiestep (talk) 05:26, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
I have added the inline citation. According to the book Cocaine: Global Histories, Niemann isloated cocaine in 1859 and published his finding in 1860. Masterpiece2000 (talk) 05:30, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Length/date/hook citation verified. Good to go. --Rosiestep (talk) 05:20, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Length/date ok. Hook lacks the inline citation. --Rosiestep (talk) 05:32, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Sigh. Extraneous incite added.--Bedford 16:15, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 03:20, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
  • ... that the Golden Age Passport has been replaced by the Senior Pass of the new pass series now called America the Beautiful - National Parks and Federal Recreational Lands Pass? new article, self nominated by --Doug 21:47, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 03:18, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
(alternatively) ... that due to its simplicity torchon lace is the first bobbin lace that many lace makers learn to make?
Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 03:15, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 03:13, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
File:45160910.DSC 2407.jpg
Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 14:28, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 14:27, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 14:24, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Length and reference verified. Let's tighten that last clause to "...and the closure of a portion of Ocean Boulevard in Long Beach?" Daniel Case (talk) 14:20, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 14:17, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 14:13, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Since the sources are in Norwegian I can verify the article accuracy and the reliability of the references. Rettetast (talk) 12:50, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Oh, and it's long enough. Daniel Case (talk) 03:32, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
OR
A few issues here. I'm not sure if it's long enough to qualify (if you don't count the listy "recent exhibits" section. Neither article nor source states the first hook; and the second ... well, YouTube is a website, not a person, so it doesn't vote, its users do, and the link is to someone's video, hardly the results of a user vote (and since when does YouTube hold user votes on travel destinations? Probably when Travelocity starts showing clips of people's dogs chasing jack o' lanterns). Daniel Case (talk) 03:21, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Dates and lengths are okay on both articles, I like the idea of having two articles in one DYK. Can you perhaps cite a specific source that quantifies the 28 year figure? If Bolin Sr. took office in 1940 and Jr. in 1979 (or 1978--the Bolin Sr article text does not match Jrs infobox), that would be thirty-eight or thirty-nine years. Broooooooce (talk) 00:50, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, it should be 38 years. House, 1940 and 1978 (taking office 1979) Judge 1952 and 1990 (taking office 1991)Billy Hathorn (talk) 01:51, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
-Works for me. Broooooooce (talk) 18:42, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
OR
... that Joe R. Salter, a former educator and Speaker of the Louisiana House of Representatives, is now chief lobbyist for his state's Department of Education?--self-nom (new replacement article)
- Article is only a 3.28x expansion, class and length are OK, link to hook source is 404, talk page notes that this politician is involved in an election (this was added last year so may be out of date) and I am concerned that the first hook in particular could be construed as an attempt to tout his qualifications. Broooooooce (talk) 00:08, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
The previous article had no citations and was a compilation of the former Speaker's website. He did not run for office in 2007. The revised article is mostly new except for about a third of his former website material being retained. There was no attempt to tout his quaiifications.Billy Hathorn (talk) 01:54, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
The source for hook is still 404 (link does not work) and the talk page still incorrectly states he is in the middle of an election. Main body text expansion was only from 2.59kb to 5.75kb (a 2.2x expansion). Needs work before ready. Broooooooce (talk) 18:42, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Expiring noms

Articles created/expanded on May 23

- Article is only a 3.6x expansion. Source exists. I would accept this in good faith, but I am not sure how strict the guidelines are typically observed. I'm fine with it if another more experienced editor is as well. Broooooooce (talk) 22:46, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
Once again, you need to go back to school. 5173/828 means a 6.25 expansion!!!--Bedford 00:57, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Your tone is as unbecoming of an administrator as it was during our discussion on your talk page. According to this the expansion was from 1928 to 7016 bytes. As stated, I don't have a problem with it if no one else does. I am starting to develop a problem with the way you speak to me. Broooooooce (talk) 01:19, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
I agree the tone is unbecoming. Broooooce is wrong, but please Misplaced Pages:Assume good faith. The precedent is that fivefold expansion is calculated using the same prose-only rule used for the 1500 character limit, but that precedent isn't even hinted at in the rules, so why should Broooooooce know that? Art LaPella (talk) 01:40, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
If Broooce is telling someone they are passing or failing, then he needs to do it right, and his actions the past few days have given me cause to suspect him. He's just doing it because a friend of his threw a temper tantrum.--Bedford 01:48, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
This is not true, as I have suggested that two or three of your other submissions were just fine earlier today. I assure you that I do not let disagreements cloud my personal judgement. It was an unfortunate mistake. Broooooooce (talk) 01:57, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Confirming anyhow. Gatoclass (talk) 04:56, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
(alt hook) *... that Bethel officials hope the Museum at Bethel Woods will help improve tourism in the area, which has suffered since the decline of the Borscht Belt? TravellingCari 13:42, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
I live within an afternoon's drive, and I propose:
Otherwise, length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 21:26, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 21:17, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Length OK. ODNB access needed to verify (hey, maybe for our next fundraising drive, we could divert a few hundred pounds to set up some sort of ODNB account for select DYK verifiers here?) Daniel Case (talk) 21:14, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
ODNB checks out. David Underdown (talk) 10:48, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Date verified, too, so good to go. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:27, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 21:11, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 21:10, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
Why do you want to screw people? This was a 5.35 expansion (was 1377, now 7370).--Bedford 01:02, 28 May 2008 (UTC)


This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Length OK; cited source is to an article I'd have to pay for. Can a quote be included in the footnote? Daniel Case (talk) 20:49, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
OR
OR
  • - Length, source, and date are OK; I am concerned, however, that this could be construed as using the main page as begging for donations. I've noticed that you contribute mostly to this particular niche of articles (those dealing with Unitarian Universalism). I don't, at this time, feel comfortable saying this is ready for DYK but will have no problem with it if other more experienced editors do not share my reservations. Broooooooce (talk) 17:59, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

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