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:: BTW, congrats on the ]! I think it's a great addition. :) --]]] 19:41, 10 June 2008 (UTC) :: BTW, congrats on the ]! I think it's a great addition. :) --]]] 19:41, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
::: Thank you :) On Al-Durrah, we also have to bear BLP in mind. Not to mention ]. Just because it's not libellous to say Enderlin was lying doesn't mean that the mainstream view isn't that the boy is dead. Hell, I can't even find anything from the Israeli army disputing his death, who logically would be the first people to do so. ] (]) (]) 19:46, 10 June 2008 (UTC) ::: Thank you :) On Al-Durrah, we also have to bear BLP in mind. Not to mention ]. Just because it's not libellous to say Enderlin was lying doesn't mean that the mainstream view isn't that the boy is dead. Hell, I can't even find anything from the Israeli army disputing his death, who logically would be the first people to do so. ] (]) (]) 19:46, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

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An open debate on how to resolve nationalist conflicts - please visit

I'm currently handing out rollback randomly to people who I think might find it useful - if you don't want the tool, just leave a note here and I'll remove you from the rollbacker user rights group again.

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Thoughts on User:Moreschi/The Plague and subpages (1 and 2)? All comments welcome.

Admin philosophy is here, general thoughts are here. Work currently in progress: User:Moreschi/Workspace 1.

Recently archived

Please check the archives for anything older. Moreschi (talk) (debate) 14:13, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Your help needed

Hi Moreschi, Some of the usual suspects on India-related pages, in particular:

have apparently now been joined by

in attempting to move Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi (a page name in keeping with those on Britannica, Encarta, Columbia, Webster's encyclopedias, as well as the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography) to Mahatma Gandhi (where "Mahatma" an honorific (and qualifier) is explicitly discouraged in the lead of WP:NAMEPEOPLE. user:Nikkul is now attempting to conduct a straw-poll and user:Beamathan is talking about moving the page-name regardless. Can the page be protected? Or at least protected against moves? Sorry for dumping this on you, but I am beginning to get a big headache with their antics. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 12:31, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Appreciation of administration administered

Moreschi, I just wanted to express my appreciation for the fact that you have decided to take action as an admin on what seems rather clear evidence of disruption. There is on need to bog down arbitration with these things. Best.PelleSmith (talk) 16:34, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Appreciation appreciated :) Moreschi (talk) (debate) 14:08, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Seen this?

. I think you might have more experience with the nuts and bolts of setting up these things (WP:FTN). --Folantin (talk) 17:34, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I'd suggest "National, ethnic and cultural conflicts noticeboard" as the title. See this first . --Folantin (talk) 17:49, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Ok. I don't have time to set it up today anyway, but that's now at the top of things-to-do. Moreschi (talk) (debate) 14:08, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Are these comments about living authors acceptable?

Please take a look at , a debate about the authors of a quote I've used in the Cahokia article. The debate I am not so bothered about, the comments on the authors (which I've just summarised at the bottom) I don't know what to do about (if anything should be done of course). If I found it on a talk page I wasn't involved in I might delete it myself, but I can't do that here even if it should be done. Thanks. Doug Weller (talk) 18:22, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I'll take a look. Moreschi (talk) (debate) 14:08, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Just letting you know..

That after your indefinite block of User:Dzonatas he was sending emails via the MediaWiki interface with further attacks on editors, so I reapplied the block, this time with email ability disabled. SirFozzie (talk) 02:19, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Moreschi (talk) (debate) 14:08, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Tabal

Great :) Moreschi (talk) (debate) 10:59, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Hellenic Sock drawer

Hi, Moreschi. I am a long time admirer of your anti-Plague efforts. A "new" user named User:Dvaaeg has been revert warring at Florina. He appears to be part of the User:Aegeanhawk and User:Aee1980 franchise. Would you mind taking a look? I have filed a report at Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/3RR#User:Dvaaeg_reported_by_User:Aramgar_.28Result:_.29. Thanks, Aramgar (talk) 23:26, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

He's been blocked for 24h by ChrisO: I've filed a checkuser request. Moreschi (talk) (debate) 10:59, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Moreschi - I think that IP:77.83.189.85 should be added to the RfCU. I wasn't sure if I should do this myself, so I'm notifying you. This IP is removing the Slavic name from the lead of Florina and changing Macedonia to FYROM in various other articles. Thanks, Kafka Liz (talk) 20:16, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Moreschi, thanks for all your good work. Please let me know if I can be of assistance. Regards, Aramgar (talk) 23:42, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Many thanks from me, too. :) Kafka Liz (talk) 23:49, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

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Mactruth: A Drama

My valiant liege, I come with dismal tidings:
Mighty Mactruth, the thane of Skopje, hath,
Of Macedonian strife grossly enraged,
Forsaken all pretence of peace and reason,
And bloody battle sworn upon the 'pedia.
Now redirects he madly strews about:
Some call it pointy; others, vandal's madness,
some say it's valiant fury: but, for certain,
He cannot buckle his distemper'd course
Within the belt of rule. I only halted
For one short day his rage. Who will perform
What needful course in measure, time and place
Can keep disruption off our peaceful folds?

Fut.Perf. 07:31, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Hahaha. What a wonderful thing to find on your talkpage in the morning :)
Anyway, levity over. He's topic-banned for 2 months. When will they learn, you wonder? Moreschi (talk) (debate) 10:59, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
You know, pretty soon it'll just be FP allowed to edit the topic.... :) BalkanFever 12:34, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Of course, that is my ill-concealèd purpose
In doing what I do. And once my triumph
I see completed, and my labours crowned
With full success, and world dominion mine,
I will proceed towards rewriting promptly
Whatever articles this website holds
That deal with your fair Macedonian lands
In purest blank verse. Nothing then will keep
Me back from furthering my chosen task:
Shakespearean pentameter shall reign
Supreme, where Alexander lived, and where Philip was slain.

--Fut.Perf. 13:11, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Can't really argue with that now, can I? BalkanFever 13:28, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Let's leave it to the real Shakespeare to decide on Macedonian matters. This from Henry V:

FLUELLEN Ay, was porn at Monmouth, Captain Gower. What call you the town's name where Alexander the Pig was born!

GOWER Alexander the Great.

FLUELLEN Why, I pray you, is not pig great? the pig, or the great, or the mighty, or the huge, or the magnanimous, are all one reckonings, save the phrase is a little variations.

GOWER I think Alexander the Great was born in Macedon; his father was called Philip of Macedon, as I take it.

FLUELLEN I think it is in Macedon where Alexander is porn. I tell you, captain, if you look in the maps of the 'orld, I warrant you sall find, in the comparisons between Macedon and Monmouth, that the situations, look you, is both alike. There is a river in Macedon; and there is also moreover a river at Monmouth: it is called Wye at Monmouth; but it is out of my prains what is the name of the other river; but 'tis all one, 'tis alike as my fingers is to my fingers, and there is salmons in both. If you mark Alexander's life well, Harry of Monmouth's life is come after it indifferent well; for there is figures in all things. Alexander, God knows, and you know, in his rages, and his furies, and his wraths, and his cholers, and his moods, and his displeasures, and his indignations, and also being a little intoxicates in his prains, did, in his ales and his angers, look you, kill his best friend, Cleitus.

GOWER Our king is not like him in that: he never killed any of his friends.

FLUELLEN It is not well done, mark you now take the tales out of my mouth, ere it is made and finished. I speak but in the figures and comparisons of it: as Alexander killed his friend Cleitus, being in his ales and his cups; so also Harry Monmouth, being in his right wits and his good judgments, turned away the fat knight with the great belly-doublet: he was full of jests, and gipes, and knaveries, and mocks; I have forgot his name.

GOWER Sir John Falstaff.

FLUELLEN That is he: I'll tell you there is good men porn at Monmouth.

--Folantin (talk) 13:43, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Protection

Dear Moreschi, this article Colchis needs protection again, the vandal is back (he was banned before but now uses new account), he removes content and leaves attacks on our talk pages. Thanks in advance. Iberieli (talk) 18:08, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Dealt with via blocks. Moreschi (talk) (debate) 11:16, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Hello Moreschi. The blocked User:Kolkhianboy has reincarnated as User:Anti-Kartvel, choosing his new username due to his habitual prejudice toward the term "Kartvelian", which is, among other things, a clear violation of WP:IU. I would very much appreciate if you could help with this troublesome guy. Best regards, --Kober 15:49, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Quite right: CU confirmed. Blocked as well. Let me know if anything else comes up :) Moreschi (talk) (debate) 16:20, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for good job, Moreschi. :) --Kober 06:09, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Not allowed to notify editors of arbitration sanctions?

Moreschi, I think you should take a look at this discussion - you opined a few days ago that any admin can log a notification, but the converse is being argued here. I've left a request for clarification on the thread. -- ChrisO (talk) 00:44, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Dealt with. Moreschi (talk) (debate) 11:16, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

AE thread

On your current AE thread, could you put some diffs and specific threads, ie, a bit of detail? Thanks. — RlevseTalk02:10, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Will do shortly. Moreschi (talk) (debate) 11:16, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

User:Dvaeeg checkuser results

Hello Moreschi. CU did not confirm Aee1980 as a Mywayyy sock, as yet. How about retagging Aee1980 as the puppetmaster and making Dvaeeg be his sock? The sockpuppet categories for Mywayyy seem to be based on old data (2007 and earlier) anyway so maybe start a new puppet category for Aee1980? EdJohnston (talk) 01:03, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Shrug. I'd be very surprised if Mywayyy is not behind this all, based on my experiences with this current lot and AerospaceM (talk · contribs). Admittedly, there's not the CU data to back this up, but IMO it is highly probable based on contribution comparison. Moreschi (talk) (debate) 09:25, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Mactruth

I have been blocked from all Macedonia related articles across WP for 2 months. I believe I should be unblocked. Before I get into the reasoning, I would like to state to look at all Macedonia related articles. You will see that I am one of the people who try to keep calm, talk things out and make edits based on sources. When I found the "History of modern Macedonia" article, I quickly realized the article was POV pushing since it only discussed History of Greek Macedonia. I discussed the issue with other WP members in the talk page of that article, who agreed with me that the title is monopolization of the term "Macedonia." I posted the issue several times to several ADMINISTRATORS, but the response from the ADMINS were absent. Instead of trying to fix the issue immediately, ADMINS ignored it without even sending a message to update me on the situation. After trying to get their attention about the issue multiple times, the issue was not dealt with. Because of that, I redirected a couple pages including "Modern Macedonia" to the Republic of Macedonia" since reasoning and discussion were being ignored. The interesting portion of this is "Modern Macedonia" redirect was IMMEDIATELY deleted as soon as a Greek pointed it out. So, I pointed my issue about a week ago and no response occurred, yet when a Greek pointed their issue it was IMMEDIATELY dealt with. Why is this the case? Unfair treatment led to my action. Mactruth (talk) 02:21, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Hmm. When I look at this, it seems as if the naming issue has been sorted out calmly and to what I presume is your satisfaction by others. The problem lies in your approach. You charged in like a high bull in a china shop with a bunch of completely illogical and pointy redirects. That's classic disruption, actually bordering on vandalism. You can hardly be surprised, nor can you justifiably complain, when you get punished for it. So, read the rules and come back to this topic in two months with a much calmer and more logical approach. Thank you. Moreschi (talk) (debate) 09:25, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Trial by Jury

HEy, Moreschi! Just so you know, Trial by Jury is going through the last stages of cleanup before a featured article nomination. If you'd like to help, it would be appreciated. H.M.S. Pinafore has been chosen as the next project. Work has barely begun there. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 14:20, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Can you please delete this?

Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_comment/Sceptre,_Sxeptomaniac,_SirFozzie,_B? Per concerns at ANI and in the RFC itself and on the initiator's talk page.

I'd asked another administrator (Nishkid64) but he said he's busy and to ask another admin .

Thanks. Ncmvocalist (talk) 18:47, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Done. Moreschi (talk) (debate) 19:35, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Al-Durrah

Awwww, c'mon Moreschi, please just give it a try? Maybe my method won't work, maybe it will, but it would mean a lot to me if you could back me up, even in the short term? I have huge respect for you, especially because you of all people know the complexities of the "plague" situation. I've had some excellent success at the Hungarian/Slovakian page, so please, could you support me on a similar experiment at the al-Durrah page? Pretty please?  :) It might make things a bit messy at the beginning, but don't worry, I've got longterm plans which I think you'll approve of. Trust me.  :) --Elonka 19:27, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

I know. I'll be nice to the regulars. The SPAs I will not, particularly not when they break the rules like that and try to spark off more revert-warring. There's no dealing with obsessives...which unfortunately is what SPAs usually are. Tundrabuggy has been topic-banned anyway for that one, and his mate will have to watch her step. Moreschi (talk) (debate) 19:33, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
BTW, congrats on the Misplaced Pages:Ethnic and cultural conflicts noticeboard! I think it's a great addition.  :) --Elonka 19:41, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Thank you :) On Al-Durrah, we also have to bear BLP in mind. Not to mention WP:FRINGE. Just because it's not libellous to say Enderlin was lying doesn't mean that the mainstream view isn't that the boy is dead. Hell, I can't even find anything from the Israeli army disputing his death, who logically would be the first people to do so. Moreschi (talk) (debate) 19:46, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

FYI

Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration#Request_for_injunction_and_restoration_of_deleted_RFC:_Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration.23Intelligent_design_editors Odd nature (talk) 19:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

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