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Feature Films For Families Page

Could you help me find some third party references for the Feature Films For Families page please? Thank you.Wolfbite110 (talk) 21:08, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

I tossed one more link up there, about them being sued. The only main thing left that concerns me is that the article is very biased-sounding. To improve the article, I'd advise trying to make it sound more neutral, while keeping anything you can show with third party links. I'm not saying there can't be criticism, just that you have to show that the page isn't there just to tear down the company, that's all. You're on to a good start, though. Unforgiven24 (talk) 21:23, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

I will try that. I am not sure how neutral I can make it sound though, as I was trying to do excatly that when writing the article. The problem was all the critisizm I had heard and read about on them. There was an article about them in the local newspaper for where I live, but I could not find the article on there website. That is where I got most of the Controversies section. I did re-write it so it wasnt violating copyright though. Wolfbite110 (talk) 21:32, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Ah. Well, I'm afraid Misplaced Pages has guidelines against that sort of thing (see WP:NPOV), so it'll have to be made to be from a neutral point of view. Having criticism isn't forbidden, it's just that the article overall has to be neutral, and if you're going to mention a claim about it, make sure you can back it up. For example, when I put on there that they had been sued, I included a link to a news article showing it. That sort of thing. Unforgiven24 (talk) 21:38, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

I got it to what reads to me like a neutral point of view by re-writing the top and removing any un-verifiable information. It is still quite a stub of an article though.Wolfbite110 (talk) 15:55, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

I just came back from there, actually. I expanded a little bit on the lawsuit, but more could probably be done with it. At the point, the best way to expand the article is to just trudge through search engines and find references. Maybe there's more detailed information on the lawsuit, for example. Or, confirm that it's the only one. You get the idea. Good work on it so far, though. I know how much it can suck to delete work one has done on an article, even if it is in the interest of being NPOV and rbacked up with references. Unforgiven24 (talk) 16:04, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

adoption

Hi, would you still like to be adopted? If so, feel free to message me on my talk page. Sticky Parkin 23:45, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

No problem, that's what I did too:) I'm not going to make you do homework or anything lol, how it works as far as I understand it is I leave you to it, and you just message me if you need any help with anything or tips etc. :) Sticky Parkin 01:44, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Article

Hi - I saw your message to Sticky so I hope you don't mind me commenting - you've made a great start to that article. What you need to do now is try and find a few more references. I'll also have a look when I have a moment. --Allemandtando (talk) 17:41, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Ah, thank you. I hate just putting a stub in the main article namespace if I can avoid it, so I was hoping to flesh it out a bit more before doing so. If you can find anything before I find it, all the better :) And thanks for the encouragement, I'm still kind of figuring some of this out, it helps to know I'm not doing it all wrong.

Unforgiven24 (talk) 17:47, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

no problem - I think that constructing it in your userspace is certainly the way to go - I have access to academic journals and will see if I can find anything there that will be useful. --Allemandtando (talk) 18:14, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

article- as Allemantando says:) The subject you've chosen is quite good (that's where most people go wrong- write about their mum or something lol). A good way to find refs is often a google news search IMHO then find some refs for your statements there. Unfortunately quite often most are subscription only, which wiki people don't tend to like us to use, but you will find a few there by flicking through. Thanks for the honour of letting me take a look.:) Sticky Parkin 18:18, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for all the feedback. Allemandtando raises something I hadn't thought about - academic journals. I'm a soon-to-be-alumnus myself, so I have access still to the journals my University subscribes to, so maybe I'll have a glance. I can entirely understand preferring to link to free (as in beer) references first, but is it bad form to also link to a subscription only journal, if it's a source for something that a gratis source cannot be found for? I'd think it's better than leaving that information out altogether.

Either way, KPilot is a rather small, specific app, so I don't expect to find much in the way of academic references, but the issue seems like a good one to ask about now anyway. Thanks again for all the help and discussion, it's very much appreciated Unforgiven24 (talk) 18:49, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

If you think a peer reviewed source, it's gold regards of it's "paid for status". --Allemandtando (talk) 18:51, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

true, and there's often a little snippet/ abstract at the top that people can read, or even the name KPilot in the title is sort of proof someone's considered it something to discuss. Google scholar- you're sorted, it's been mentioned a fair bit, even though these google searches often seem full of 'clutter', you can spot a couple of good articles mentioned there. And google books . Sticky Parkin 00:43, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

stubs

It looks like stub tags were added to the K3b article two or three years ago. This page seems to be the main one about stubs WP:STUB.

It says "Be bold in removing stub tags that are clearly no longer applicable." So it's down to the individual editor's judgement. If you feel nervous about changing an article's class, you could ask any other editors that might be watching on the article's talk page before doing so. Sticky Parkin 00:09, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

oooh, are you?

Oh, good luck with your move, is that a work or study venture? I live in Birmingham UK, though I did have a phase of reading about and watched some videos of the Toronto blessing , some years ago.:) Sticky Parkin 01:20, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Ah, must have been someone else I was thinking of, then. It's for a job, as of the end of next week, I'm done studying (getting my B.Sc. in computer science). Unforgiven24 (talk) 06:40, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, Sticky's a Brit, like me.

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award of first success

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		I know it wasn't an assignment I set you, but I thought you deserved this as recognition for making the article KPilot. Sticky Parkin 01:23, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

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In reply to your message on User_talk:Tohd8BohaithuGh1

Well, sorry if my editing was disruptive to you, but as you can see from the edit history, I was simply trying to adjust the image size. I didn't realize the preview button yet. Tohd8BohaithuGh1 (talk) 14:00, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

No problem at all - I assumed that was the case. If I sounded mean or snarky, I entirely apologize. I just figured you didn't know, so would point it out. Unforgiven24 (talk) 14:02, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Glad to help

Keep up the good work. Cheers, JNW (talk) 15:09, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

AllStudentRentals.com

Hello, I am trying to write an article about the company AllStudentRentals.com, I didn't mean to spam or write an inappropriate article but I did and the page became protected. Can you help me with this? I am simply trying to write a legitimate article. Thanks in advance! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gazdeck11 (talk • contribs) 21:29, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Not really, no. The same article, by several different users, was recreated nearly verbatim despite being tagged for speedy deletion under WP:CSD, and with each time a post was made to the person's talk page explaining why. Despite this, each time it was created again, without alterations or attempts to improve it. Is it any surprise that an admin (not me, but the way. I can't do it if I want to) would put an end to it?

My best advice would probably be just to read over the reasons why the article was deleted each time, and rewrite the article so that it doesn't read as an advertisement, and so that it clearly shows why it's notable enough to warrant inclusion. Once you have something to suggest using, maybe go to an admin and ask them to lift the protection on the article name. I don't know, though, I've never had to do that sort of thing.

Only just started on the ole WikiP ;)

Hey there, I've just created thinking for tuesday and just needed to put in something to see if I could. I will be changing it tonight to put in actual encyclopaedic content to get information from various sources but need to collate my information. If you can hold off deletion for a bit I'll finish it. Thanks! :) Chrishottease (talk) 13:00, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Really, if I don't tag it, someone else will anyway. But, there's an even better solution - if you just make an account, you can make the article in your sandbox, and generally you can do whatever you want there (see mine, for example). Just go to Your Sandbox and plop it in there, play with it, and when it's ready, move it into the main space. If it's not clear, there's[REDACTED] pages about it, such as this one. Hope this helps. Unforgiven24 (talk) 13:05, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Deleting Geo Vaughn?

Hey what is the reason for deleting my article on Geo Vaughn? There was nothing wrong with it, and it was a work in progress that was created less than an hour ago... The Middle Man NYC (talk) 02:25, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

If it's a work in progress, it's much better to make it in your sandbox, and get it ready for the main namespace there. At least get it to a well formed stub status. Also, it would help to rewrite parts of it to sound less like an advertisement, which I believe is what got it tagged in the first place. Adding articles to[REDACTED] is fine, don't take this as me trying to drive you away, just make sure what you contribute is ready to be contributed. Unforgiven24 (talk) 02:28, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Michael Marc Rosenberg Deletion

Hello, My name is Dr. Jeffery Tizzlebee and I believe that the page of Mikey Rosenberg should not be included under the category of speedy deletion. My reason being is that the North American Trials Series(NATS) is one of the most prestigious competitions in all of bike trials, and not only did he get first in his category, but he also created the Belle Isle Bike Trials competition. The Belle Isle Bike Trials competition is growing into another large event for bike trials riders, and is held annually. I believe that the founder/ expert bike rider of a large competition is to be noted in pages such as wikipedia.

   Thank you for your time and consideration,
       Sincerely, Dr. Jeffery Tizzlebee

The article has since been deleted (meaning an administrator saw it and agreed - please realize that why I may have flagged it, I don't have the ability to delete or undelete articles), so I can't go and look at the article itself, but odds are it either was tagged for looking too much like and advertisement, or not showing notability. Either one of those is covered in the WP:CSD.

All is not lost though - you're welcome to recreate the article, altered to fit the guidelines. Just make sure it's written so as to be objective and neutral, and make sure the topic is notable. A great way to do this is to use third-party references and links (such as news articles, things like that) to show that it is of importance.

Also, not that you seem to have, but don't take it personally. I'd love to see your article get added and worked on, just make sure it has a good start before adding it, that's all. Unforgiven24 (talk) 02:57, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Diana Blaine

give me a second will you... i have just started to write this article a few seconds ago... Canadian (talk) 14:46, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

If you're still putting together the article, use the WP:SANDBOX, or (even better) your own Sandbox. Get it ready there, and then move it to the main namespace when it's all set. Unforgiven24 (talk) 14:48, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

I was surprised that a person so scandalous as her did not have a wikipedia page. and thanks for the compliments ... or (how about a barnstar)?? Canadian (talk) 17:33, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Flacara Moreni

I'm working to improve the article. I've already posted some weblinks and i'm searching for more info including a weblink about their participation in the UEFA Cup.Horror Punk Ed (talk) 14:57, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm afraid it's already been deleted. The easiest way to go about it though, is to just use your Sandbox to create the article. Create it there, and once it's ready and doesn't meet the Criteria for speedy deletion, then move it to the main namespace. More on sandboxes. Unforgiven24 (talk) 15:13, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

It already has links and sources why delete it?? For recreation? Sometimes i think that admins are just playing with other peoples work. See the links read first than you'll see that what the article is saying is FACT!

Horror Punk Ed (talk) 15:21, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

It generally doesn't take long for the admins to get to it, that's entirely true. Firstly, though, it's not a matter of truth in your article. I don't see the notification on your talk page, but there should have been on there explaining what the reason for tagging it under WP:CSD was. As I've already mentioned, just create it in your Sandbox, and work on it there. Once it's ready, move it. It's much better that way, and you can even invite others to have a look and help get it ready. Heck, if it'll help show that I'm not just saying this to get rid of you, let me know when you start it by putting a link to it here, and I'll personally come have a look give you a hand.

Lastly, please don't take it personally. I don't tag articles because of who created them, things like that. We both have a common goal here - improving Misplaced Pages. While I understand being annoyed and frustrated at having your work deleted, there's no reason to treat it as a personal insult, or to just give up on it there. Unforgiven24 (talk) 15:28, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Sorry,I know it wasn't a personal attack, just sometimes rightfull editors and contributors to[REDACTED] like me are more of a target than vandals and other kind of bad users of wikipedia. I'll try to keep on working to improve all my contributions to Misplaced Pages...Giving up is not my style :-)...Horror Punk Ed (talk) 16:08, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, we're all just human. I'm sure good articles have probably been tagged before by mistake, or things like that. In any case, I'm glad you're not giving up, and let me know when you have that article in your sandbox. Unforgiven24 (talk) 16:18, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Mouse Hand Warmer Deletion

I revised the mouse hand warmer page you deleted. Please contact me if you find it still not right. I'd rather edit it and not rewrite it. Today is my first time publishing on Misplaced Pages. I thought we were supposed to document our references to avoid copyright issues. I did NOT intend to be accused of advertising. I was not aware how to document the facts without naming resources. In the update I did not state references in fear of being accused of advertising again. I want to upload images. I'll wait until I receive clearance for them. Thanks, MouseHandWarmer (talk) 22:16, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

It wasn't so much that you linked to their (or your) site, it was that the entire article had a very advertising tone to it, which the links just amplified. It's frustrating, I know, but when an article is short and about a relatively unknown product, and probably created by that company or creators, it's very important to be sure the article doesn't come off as trying to sell anything, just independently discuss it. The current article sounds better, but still could use some improvement in that regard.

Best of luck on wikipedia. Unforgiven24 (talk) 22:37, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Hey, I saw that you did the New Page Patrol for my article on Beulah Federal Credit Union. I just wanted to say "Thanks!" for giving that little piece to okay to stay on Misplaced Pages. Cheers! Ecoleetage (talk) 01:33, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Heh, no problem, I suppose. To be honest, I briefly considered tagging it for notability ({{notability}}, not the WP:CSD kind), but there's three links there, and so on, so meh. Good luck with the article on wikipedia, though. I'd give you the usual thing I give others on here, "we have a common goal" and "please don't hate me because I deleted your article", but after a glance at your user page, I'm guessing you've been far longer than I have, so I'll can it ;) Unforgiven24 (talk) 01:37, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

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Thanks

Oooh, I see you've got into tagging etc, some parts of it can be addictive. It's also sometimes very amusing to see the articles people try and put on here.:) Sticky Parkin 12:51, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

It is dangerously addictive. I may have to quit my job. Unforgiven24 (talk) 15:53, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

AIDS

Hi,

are you willing to help me, work together, on this article? I'd love that. Kaaskop6666 (talk) 19:24, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Peritus Thagirion

Hi,

Why did you erase the article about the rockband Peritus Thagirion? The bandmembers became very sad when they heard that the article was erased. I just want a good reason to tell them, because I don't know what to say to them. Nima91 (talk) 19:21, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

A small clarification - I didn't delete it, I just tagged it for deletion. It also had to be confirmed by an administrator, who then actually deleted it. I don't have the article in front of me (obviously), but most likely it was tagged for speedy deletion for not asserting notability. There's a few ways that a band can be defined as "notable", which can be found here. Unforgiven24 (talk) 17:59, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, okey, I guess it's logical. Thanks for responding! :) But still, it means a lot for these musicians, why couldn't the article stay on Misplaced Pages? I mean, it's not disturbing in anyway. But thanks anyway! Nima91 (talk) 10:18, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, they're not my rules, they're just what Misplaced Pages is about. If they had no guidelines at all,[REDACTED] would be overflowing with articles about random people's dog and the band they were in as a kid that actually ever met once. Somewhere they have to draw the line, and the link above is where they decided to draw it.

Don't treat it like a lifetime ban or something though - there's no reason at all you can't make the page in your sandbox and work on it there, and when you can show notability, then move it to the main namespace. Just before doing so, make sure that it meets the guidelines above. If you're not sure, just ask an editor that's been around a little while. The easiest rule of thumb though, is when they've released two albums. Unforgiven24 (talk) 15:46, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Hm, okey, yeah I understand. Thanks alot man, I can contact you after we have released our debutalbum :D take care! Nima91 (talk) 20:36, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Their Darkest Hour: People Tested to the Extreme in WWII

Hi; I don't quite understand why you added "primarysources". Misplaced Pages policy is that content be verifiable. As far as I can see, everything currently in the article is easily verifiable from the book itself. Looie496 (talk) 20:32, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Because the second half of that tag mentions third party sources. The idea is to have sources independent of the subject establishing notability, giving information, and so on. Unforgiven24 (talk) 21:03, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

IQS

Hello. I have changed the article around to try and prevent it from sounding like an advert. Please take a look and tell me if you have any more suggestions. Thanks. Mfields20 (talk) 09:21, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

newpage patrolling

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I generally don't mark them patrolled if I'm unsure if they meet or things like that, that's all. Is this a bad idea? Unforgiven24 (talk) 02:01, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

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Patrolling

Can you explain to me what you do when you mark an article as patrolled? Did you even read St joan of arc school to notice that the whole thing is nonsense? Corvus cornix_talk 22:07, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Meh, you've got me there. I generally think I do fine, but that one I don't have an excuse for. Funny, I always figured that being human and whatnot, I'd eventually mistakenly tag an article for deletion or something, and that'd be my first "whoops, sorry, you're right". Instead, it's the reverse. Figures.

Anyway, my apologies, and thank you for cleaning up my mess. Unforgiven24 (talk) 22:12, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry if I came across as huffy there, I'm just having a discussion over on WP:ANI in which I discuss my view that patrolling is usually worse for Misplaced Pages than not having it. Corvus cornix_talk 22:14, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

You may have, very slightly, but given the blatant mistake, I can't say I wouldn't either. Either way, no hard feelings, I didn't take offense.

As for whether it hurts not, it's probably a good question. I haven't read up on the debate, but I can imagine good arguments for both. I'll have to have a look later. Still, with the sheer amount of obvious nonsense and vandalism that comes in, I'd imagine that something like patrolling would have to be done, even if it's not exactly in the current form. Unforgiven24 (talk) 22:19, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

As an aside, I'm greatly impressed by your skilled aplication of WP:CSD policy and ability to, as I call it 'delete bollox from the wiki', Unforgiven. I don't think, looking at your contribs and the amount of unsuitable articles you tag which get deleted, people can say that your application of speedy tags is not a boon. (Ive no opinion about patrolling in general as I don't know enough about it, but just wanted to say how impressed I am with what you personally do.) :) Sticky Parkin 02:44, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Aw shucks. I knew I kept you around for a reason. ;) Unforgiven24 (talk) 14:41, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the fix

Thanks for the fix on the C-2 1000 m event at the 1960 Summer Olympics. I really appreciate it. Chris (talk) 14:42, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

No problem at all ;) - Unforgiven24 (talk) 14:44, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: talk page

No problem! Huggle has a separate symbol that it shows in its queue when someone makes an edit with the summary "Replaced content with....", and when I see it on a talk page of someone who I know is an established user, I don't even bother waiting for the page to load. Cheers! J.delanoy_adds 14:53, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Bitkoo

I replaced your {{advert}} tag with a {{db-spam}} tag. When the page is an advertisement, written by the subject of the article itself, it is clearly spam.WikiDan61_ReadMe!! 18:32, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

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