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My crap Stuff and nonsense This user is an administrator on the English Misplaced Pages. (verify) This user has a userpage on Wikimedia Meta-Wiki. 15,000+ This user has made over 15,000 contributions to Misplaced Pages Smert' spamionem! This user is a member of WikiProject Spam. BEng This user has a Bachelor of Engineering degree. Reading January 2025 24 Friday 1:30 am UTC Were this admin to act in a foolish, trollish, or dickish way, he is open to being slapped with a large trout.

I check in most evenings, and occasionally some days during the day. I am on UK time (I can see Greenwich Royal Observatory from my office). If you post a reply at 8pm EST and get no reply by 10pm, it's likely because I'm asleep. My wiki interests at the moment are limited. I still handle some OTRS tickets.

Dispute resolution, Bible style - and actually an excellent model on Misplaced Pages as well.

If your brother sins against you, go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over.
But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that 'every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.'

If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector.

— Matthew 18:15

Please do not try to provoke me to anger, it's not difficult to do, so it's not in the least bit clever, and experience indicates that some at least who deliberately make my life more miserable than it needs to be, have been banned and stayed that way. Make an effort to assume good faith and let's see if we can't get along. Guy (Help!) 22:16, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

• Please see User:JzG/Harassment links.

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• User talk:Raul654/Civil POV pushing - extremely interesting debate on what I feel is one of the worst problems on Misplaced Pages right now.

Note to self

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Cycling events

Argh - just realised you are a cycling fan anyway so removed this mini-rant ;-)

User:Padillah and the Kochel Catalogue

A couple of things I would like to try and clear up, first being the accusation of forum shopping. While I may not have handled the process of confrontation with Softlavender in the best way, I was not forum shopping. The issue I was trying to bring forward at AN/I was regarding User:Smatprt's rather callus response to my request at WQA. Being a different subject about a different user I fail to see how I was forum shopping. As for my "defeat", I wasn't aware that I was in a competition with anyone. I admit, and have several times now, that I communicated poorly at the Köchel Catalogue talk page. I don't accept the fact that I refused to listen, what I believed happened was I failed to acknowledge that I was listening. I suggest that I listened and put forth growing ideas and gave up in lines that I saw were false-leading, but I did so in such a casual, ham-handed way that others were not allowed to see and accept that I had heard them - thus the impression of not listening. In the end I suggested a table layout that was eventually, after being revisited by an editor much more the wiki-markup expert than I, adopted and even praised by some. I appreciate your attempts to turn this into a learning experience, one suggestion I would make if you are going to turn mentor with others: find a way to listen to their point of view. Try to find a way to see their arguments and what is, apparently, so important that these people have gone to the lengths that they have. The response you gave, after my post explaining to Antandrus that the issue at AN/I was not about the Köchel Catalogue, was still centered in the conflict at the Köchel Catalogue talk page. And, while I appreciate the intent, most everything you said, while correct, was either irrelevant to the subject at hand or something I had already apologized for. You are correct that people need to be self-critical, I appreciate the reminder. I feel you are incorrect that someone else can determine whether a statement was perceived as a "personal attack" by another. That is something that, by its very definition, can only be determined by the offended person (hence the phrase "personal attack"). Just because a person is "wrong" doesn't mean they deserve to be insulted (something I was actually told at WQA). Just because you don't mind the phrase used doesn't mean the insulted party is being overly sensitive. There are people that object to the use of the word "retard" and some that don't (and let's not even get into the various references to ethnicities in America). One group shouldn't be belittled simply because they have what amounts to a different belief system. I'm not trying to argue that my response was correct, it wasn't and I've acknowledge such to BMW, whom I've thanked for respecting me (if not my feelings) and correcting my approach to the process. I do feel that Smatprt's response could have been phrased more appropriately and demonstrated more respect for me as a person. I am currently in discussions at the WQA talk page on how to approach this with the editors on that page. And thank you for letting me address this with you. Padillah (talk) 13:21, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

• Thanks for coming by. I think that the cue for seeing this as a battle (with implicit overtones of victory / defeat) came from the way you chose to present the issue. I looked through it as one who has had many disputes, often caused by foolish pride and stubbornness, and saw several points at which you could have swiftly defused the situation. Like the sortable table issue I mentioned on the noticeboard. What happened was that you wound up a dispute; yes, there were some touchy individuals involved, but life is full of touchy individuals. You can't fix that by being touchy yuorself, can you? I'll say more shortly, I am in the middle of something right now, but don't feel too personally about it is the short version. Guy (Help!) 13:25, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Walker Colt

I believe you owe me an apology. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 14:01, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

• Thank you for stating your belief. Guy (Help!) 14:12, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Beautifulness

This is the part of JzG that people don't see, or refuse to see, or choose to ignore. You went way beyond the "call of duty", once again, and I am thoroughly impressed. Just sayin. Keeper ǀ 76 20:32, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

• Why thank you! Now vote for my DYK at Template talk:Did you know#Articles created/expanded on September 25 - did you know that Cleckheaton station was stolen in 1971? Wow! Guy (Help!) 20:57, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Canvasser :-) Apparently, you need a 20% expansion. Might I recommend a a pump? Keeper ǀ 76 21:09, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

It already got expanded a bit. Guy (Help!) 21:13, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Was going to ferret around to figure out what is there now, but need coffee and breakfast before getting off to work. (7am here). Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:21, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Added a "vote" there. I don't do much with DYK, but meh, the article looks good. Nice work :-) Keeper ǀ 76 21:46, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

I wish more DYK hooks were really off the wall like that. I love mad facts :-) Guy (Help!) 21:51, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

I was musing along those lines myself, that every 2nd or 3rd one I work up has something really quirky. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:21, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

As long as I have your attention and good favor, the good doctor's userpage is growing in girth, and he's receiving warnings on his talkpage about the spammy nature of it all. I'm thinking another blanking (followed by a full-protect of the userpage, sigh) is in order. Your thoughts? Keeper ǀ 76 01:06, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Well that has plenty of mad facts on it, we should get him to write a few DYKs....Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:58, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

In all seriousness, Guy (and others) have tried to get that particular user to use his expertise as a doctor on anything other than his own (non-notable) bio/resume. Sigh. I'm thinking blanking/protecting/blocking. But I'll leave it to Guy's good judgment. Keeper ǀ 76 02:04, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Hard to say. I am tempted to simply nuke it, but perhaps we should MfD it? Guy (Help!) 06:02, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

An MFD might be in order, I agree. Keeper ǀ 76 20:13, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 6

A while back, you courtesy-blanked Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 6. However, I don't see anything obviously problematic in the edit history of that page, and I'd rather we didn't have to conceal an entire page of archives of this noticeboard on account of something which must have made up a relatively small percentage of the page. Would there be a problem if the page were unblanked? If so, could just the non-problematic content, whatever that is, be unblanked instead? --Metropolitan90 (talk) 06:11, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

• I chose to blank all of it because a selective blanking would make it blindingly obvious who the complainant was, and we have a long history of snide attacks against that person. So I'd rather not, thanks. Guy (Help!) 06:59, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Hinkley Point C

I'm afraid I don't quite understand your question re the planning inquiry? I thought the govt was changing the rules so we didn't have such things any more.— Rod 09:06, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Hinkley Point C

I'm afraid I don't quite understand your question re the planning inquiry? I thought the govt was changing the rules so we didn't have such things any more.— Rod 09:06, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

• David was lead counsel for the proposers at Thorp, Sizewell B, Heathrow T4 and T5. Guy (Help!) 09:09, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Ping

Will be emailing you very shortly. Ncmvocalist (talk) 12:51, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Article nominated for deletion

I've just nominated List of United States journalism scandals for deletion. I don't see the point of two articles giving the same information. Redddogg (talk) 19:42, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

WP:ANI

Following your note her, can you remind him to stop things such as . -- User:Docu

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