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This is not the place to complain about writing for the enemy. Unless you have learned to write for the enemy...Ashley kennedy3 (talk) 10:34, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

JIDF

Thank you JIDF for giving recognition of my work and showing why it is essential to continue editing. The JIDF web site list indicates by its title (List of Heavily Biased Anti-Israel Misplaced Pages Editors **UPDATED**) that JIDF is not looking for anti-Semitism but only trying to impose a strong pro-Israeli POV...Ashley kennedy3 (talk) 13:02, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

If you're spying on them, Ashley ol'chum, drop me a link from time to time. I just can't stir myself up to overcome a natural laziness in following that site. It bores me stiff, . . .not in the erotic sense.Nishidani (talk) 19:56, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I noted itNishidani (talk) 07:34, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Have I been too obvious? .....Ashley kennedy3 (talk) 13:00, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

What profile? Nishidani (talk) 19:36, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

BLP Warning

Misplaced Pages is not the place to post derogatory, unsourced remarks about living people, as you did here. Our biography of living persons policy applies to every page not just articles. Jehochman 14:44, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Source, now I can say that appletree and JIDF are nincompoops and extremists with a fixation on a "Global Islamic conspiracy theory"...Ashley kennedy3 (talk) 17:48, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

second source translation of Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung article....Ashley kennedy3 (talk) 17:52, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Ashley, it's too boring. They are extremists. The person and the page link to hate sites and to Meir Kahane, who was an anti-Arab racist. But the net's full of this bullshit, and we do well just to watch out that Misplaced Pages doesn't get dragged down to that level. Some people feel complimented by injurious insults, in that it implies recognition. That's what most of these stupid boards are about. Don't recognize them. Mokusatsu. Nishidani (talk) 17:59, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Good advice. See also WP:DENY. Stick to discussing article content, and avoid excessively strident rhetoric. Extremists will discredit themselves. Jehochman 18:10, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

User:NSH001

Just caught the ratbag fiddling around on-line. He's hyper-secretive, a Titus Oats version of the Invisible Man, or of Sherlock Holmes' older brother. But if you want suggestions on the technical side of your user page, he's the man, if you can nab him before he takes off for another marathon (Forrest Gump with grey matter).Nishidani (talk) 20:48, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Tee, hee, Ashley, just ignore Nishidani's humorous exaggerations about me. But as a quick response to your questions:

• always happy to assist anybody
• may not do so immediately - I'm supposed to be on a wikibreak, but can't seem to stay away
• there is a lovely young lady called Phaedriel (whom I'm in wikilust with ) who will design you a user page if you ask her nicely. I don't like the small type she uses, but apart from that, she's brilliant. I notice she hasn't edited since 28 September.
• failing that, plagiarise someone else's page you like
• see WP:UBX for userboxes you can put on your page
• best to learn, I think, by doing things in small increments (not that different from the way articles are written, really)
• hope this helps, as a start anyway

--NSH001 (talk) 21:53, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Oops, just noticed Phaediel hasn't been around since 28 September 2007 (I glanced too quickly, thought it was 2008)

--NSH001 (talk) 22:01, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Re things not mentioned, hebron

St.Luke's hospital there was founded originally as part of a Scottish mission to convert both Jews and Mohammedans, and was run from 1893 onwards by a quixotic figure, for some decades. His life, and apparently a lot of detail about Hebron, can be found in an otherwise rare book that however should be accessible if the Brits have an inter-library loan service. I'm referring to William Ewing, Paterson of Hebron, "the Hakim": Missionary Life in the Mountain of Judah, J. Clarke, 1930. I've a fair bit of data on Paterson, but only from secondary sources like Michael Marten's Attempting to Bring the Gospel Home: Scottish Missions to Palestine, 1839-1917, I.B.Tauris, 2006 pp.99-115 (two photos). Missionary Scottish Pat(t)ersons get around: there was one in my favourite country, Tibet. Nishidani (talk) 14:27, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Better check

Did a bit of frigging round on the Hebron-settler-palestinian conflict page. perhaps you'd better run a lynx eye over the diff to check if I've stuffed anything up. Thanks (added a Cordesman incident that seems to be missing and fixzed that ref to Palestinians killing to two Norwegians. Apparently no verdict out as to culpability) Nishidani (talk) 14:57, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Okay, Mamre aficionado. Neil's a marathoner, you're a sprinter. I can't keep up with either of you two. I'm an old-timer huffen and puffen with a fag on his lips just trying to keep up a dignified trot of work in this joint. Ya wearen me out. I've got the Greek text to Sozomenos and will work on it in duke horse, but plunked an on-line bit just for fun in there. Good night!Nishidani (talk) 20:48, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Revert

Your welcome for the revert that you thanked me for on my talk page... unfortunately I'm not quite sure which article or page you're mentioning. Haha, your welcome anyway. --Banime (talk) 10:42, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

I see now. Your welcome! Good luck on future edits. --Banime (talk) 12:57, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

List

Ashley, have you a ready-made list of all Palestinian villages that come into the Jerusalem 'border' under the 1980 Basic Law. Shuafat is of course one. regards Nishidani (talk) 11:55, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Battle of Jenin

Please don't readd the POV tags. I'm not disputing your claim, but since you claim that the whole article is NPOV that template acts as a blanket; you don't need 3 specific ones.

As for the bombings being in retaliation to oppression, can you get any sources to back that up? Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 23:41, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Great. So what's POV about the article again? Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 23:49, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

1. Layout: What's wrong with it?
2. Repetition: How is it repetitive?
3. Chronology: Any specific sections?
4. Presentation of facts: POV, basically. Again, any examples?
5. Lead: What's the issue?

I know this may be tedious, but it would be great to know exactly where you stand on this so that we can zoom along. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 23:58, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Still no idea what basic information you're talking about. But good choice; when you've got RS refs it'll be easier to fix this. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 00:12, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

If that's sourced, it's not POV. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 00:20, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Then we could probably trim the ones that are blatant repetitions. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 00:47, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Sounds solid. I'll ask for User:Jaakobou to review your suggestion; if he agrees we can go ahead and do it. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 01:10, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Re books

Don't want to burden you with my own interest, A. Just correcting a wee mispelling on your bibliopage. But have you ever read anything by Raul Hilberg? I think he is one of the greatest historians, ranking up there with Gibbon, Thucydides, Tacitus, etc. If you ever find a copy of his 'Destruction of the European Jews', first or the bigger expanded editions, it's worth buying, and reading very slowly. A lot of detail, but it is the quality and temper of the analytic mind one admires, and can learn much from. Nishidani (talk) 10:35, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Ever dependable. Fanks, guv. Surprised Sheikh Jarrah =French Hill, the former often mentioned in municipal reports, the laterr wiki page no clear mention of it. Still, for starters. . .Nishidani (talk) 16:58, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion looks like it might help. Post a note there? Nishidani (talk) 18:47, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Caesarea Philippi

Move and history merge completed. -- Avi (talk) 18:56, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Khodori Institute

Done.

Btw, have you seen http://toolserver.org/~cbm/release-data/2008-9-13/HTML/Palestine-related.s0.html? Firstly, I think it is a horrible selection (Samaria? Weizman? And nothing on culture!) Secondly, perhaps we should concentrate on the articles on that list (and those on http://toolserver.org/~cbm/release-data/2008-9-13/HTML/Israel-related.s0.html) in the near furture (which it looks as if you are doing, anyway, good work!) And do you want me to add the Nazir-explanation to the Nazir-dab. page? (but then I really need a ref...) Regards, Huldra (talk) 17:06, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Oh yes, it was absolutely a help: it was really a bit confusing earlier (which you might have noticed ;-) ) Btw, I notice that you and Nishi have become girlfriends during the time I have been away ;-D really  ;-D  ;-D  ;-D -Huldra (talk) 17:32, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Well, I see JIDF have updated their pages with just "friends" ;-) oh, well!

Oh, and it looks as if there is something funny with this edit:. And about Mamre: have you read Tristram, p397: ? I have an old copy of the book, so if you would like the picture on p.392: , tell me and I will scan it and upload it.

As for Nazir: I´ll file it (oh: so many jobs needed to be done!)

And coords of places: I have been working over the years on the Lamu Archipelago-articles (whenever I need a wiki-holiday from ME-issues ;-P) I see it still do not have coords on Kiwayu, Takwa and Lamu Archipelago...Cheers, Huldra (talk) 12:47, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Ok, picture is coming in a day or three.

3507 is a road?? I think you need to clarify this for those of us who are not topographical surveyors..;-)

And I´m a bit insulted that JIDF didn´t include me...tell me, what have I done wrong! <sob> & cheers, Huldra (talk) 13:20, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Jacob's Ford

You're welcome...but what is going on with Caesarea Philippi and Banias? We shouldn't have articles that are essentially duplicates. I'm not sure which name to use, but one article should have all the info and the other should redirect, or maybe CP should be about the ancient city and Banias the medieval one. Adam Bishop (talk) 11:14, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Panias/Banias

Quick copyedit down to the Crusaders without checking it. Bit of a mess up only with the refs to the Synoptic Gospels. Fine job so far though, you're a credit to the joint. Will review the rest after savaging dinner. Best Nishidani (talk) 19:31, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Blocked

Your account has been blocked for making egregious personal attacks after a warning. Should you wish to resume editing sooner than one week, you should explain how things will be different in the future, and suggest what you might do to correct your past actions. Even if the other editor is in the wrong, there is no excuse for you to have made the comment you did. Jehochman 17:21, 2 November 2008 (UTC)