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Oh Please!

Really, you've over stepped your scope. Chaos4tu (talk) 12:03, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Far from it Chaos4tu. Whether or not you really are who you claim to be makes absolutely no difference. Civility is the fundamental of all communication on[REDACTED] and if one's behaviour fails to meet that requirement then one will be prevented from behaving in that manner. One must resolve one's disputes on[REDACTED] politely and in the spirit of co-operation. I will also point out that the sarcasm of your response to Pigman today is unacceptable--Cailil 12:45, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

how to do research for a WP article

Hello, I am a new editor and I see that you have a lot of experience. Do you have any advice on how to do research for a WP article? Maybe there is an article on this already somewhere? I use google, Lexisnexis primarily and was wondering if I am missing someother obvious database, etc. Thanksaharon42 (talk) 01:48, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi Aharon42, well the internet is great but it can sometimes give a false impression. The best way to research articles is to read as many books on the subject as possible. The key thing to remember is that this is an encyclopedia rather than a news room. All information added to[REDACTED] must be weighed in accordance with the historical context of the subject, and the best way to judge this is to do background reading. Libraries are your friend, and for more academic sources places like JSTOR and Project MUSE are quite helpful--Cailil 13:02, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Request for renaming

Hello! I am ru:User:Candid in Russian[REDACTED] and Ru.Candid at en-wiki. Could you please rename this account to User:Candid, who has been registered and didn't make any edits. Hope it is possible to do. Thank you, best wishes, Candid from ru-wiki. --Ru.Candid (talk) 20:38, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm afraid I don't have the ability to do that Ru.Candid, but if you follow this link to meta you should be able to ask a steward to do this for you out--Cailil 21:37, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much! --Ru.Candid (talk) 08:15, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Hello, please visit Misplaced Pages:Changing username/SUL for renames on this wiki, kind regards, --birdy _{(:> )=|} 01:15, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the note Birdy--Cailil 14:58, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Deletion of Chelonatheosism??

I dont understand why my article got deleted i seen nothing wrong with this.. its a religon. i myself am a Chelonatheosist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tortuga12193 (talk • contribs) 00:12, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

help with Freud

There is a little conflict brewing between Skoojal and Esterson on the Sigmund Freud article and talk page. You have handled controversy before, and well. Could you review this little dispute and see if you can add anything constructive? Thanks, Slrubenstein | Talk 15:15, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Will have a look at that now. Thanks for the heads-up--Cailil 16:01, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Sommers

Cailil: just so you know, there's a dispute over the Christina Hoff Sommers article (between me and a couple of other editors) that's getting increasingly nasty. I'm not trying to remove all criticism from that article; I just want to see it dealt with in a balanced way, which thus far it has not been. Skoojal (talk) 07:22, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

I left a comment just now--Cailil 20:50, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. However, the situation with that article is becoming worse. I have commented on the talk page regarding BLP violation there and the inclusion of undue material. I would appeal to you to protect the article against editing. Skoojal (talk) 21:37, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Well Skoojal while I agree with some of your points I cannot protect the page as I have previously edited the article a number of times, engaged in this particular content issue previously and currently have other content disagreements with IronAngelAlice - for these reasons I am "involved" and it would be improper for me to use my sysop privileges in a way that could be seen to give me an "upper hand" in a content dispute, or to hinder an editor that I am in disagreement with elsewhere. I will however request that someone who is "uninvolved" have a look at the whole issue if it escalates. For the time being I recommend that the 4 of you (Alice, Carol, yourself and K D) either enter mediation, open an article RfC or perhaps both--Cailil 17:20, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

The situation with that article is continuing to get worse. IronAngelAlice is repeatedly re-inserting a non-reliable source. If you cannot protect the article, then please bring the matter to the attention of another admin who could do that. Skoojal (talk) 22:56, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Actually Skoojal there seems to be a consensus contrary your position. If you have an issue with this seek dispute resolution via RfC or mediation--Cailil 14:14, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Unwarranted Misplaced Pages BLP

Cailil: Thank you for your response in relation to the Allen Esterson Misplaced Pages page posted by Skoojal. The links will be very useful.

You wrote: "Also from my reading of said article, there seems to be too little sourcing for it to stay either."

The meagre amount of material for someone who has no appreciable public profile, has never held a university post, and has published only one book and half-a-dozen articles in history of psychology journals, is indicated by Skoojal's having to pad out the page with a listing of the titles of the 13 chapters in my book. Esterson (talk) 18:39, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

I think Esterson is over-stating things by saying that he has 'no appreciable public profile.' The fact of the matter is that he is quite a well-known writer. He is known not only for his highly influential work on Freud, but also for his contributions to debate over Mileva Maric. There is nothing inappropriate about the existence of an article about him. As for my mentioning the chapter titles of Esterson's book, that's because I want to see a detailed account of his book and its argument. I see nothing wrong with that. Skoojal (talk) 21:57, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

I'd like to ask Cailil exactly what he objects to regarding the passage he removed from the article on Esterson. Why do you think that this counts as Original Research, and what other ways could I discuss this part of Esterson's book? I think it does need some discussion, as there is relatively little point to the article simply stating that according to Esterson '"...the received view of Freud's character...has always been that he was a man of absolute integrity', without mentioning how that view has changed. Skoojal (talk) 22:00, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Skoojal, first of all[REDACTED] has a specific policy within BLP for people requesting the removal of articles about themselves - if Esterson requests the removal of the article about him we have to look into it. Second, the passage removed was in essay-style (WP:SYN) hence WP:OR. This is more of a problem in a BLP article and anything that looks like OR will be removed as a precaution until it can be shown otherwise. I've referred Esterson to the BLP noticeboard for help from sysops who have dealt with this scenario before. If consensus at the noticeboard concurs with your position Skoojal then the article will remain--Cailil 23:46, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Cailil: if Misplaced Pages has a policy that people can request removal of articles about themselves, then sure, of course you will have to look into it. It would not, however, be reasonable to delete the article. Esterson is a well known and influential writer, he is notable, and it would be a huge over-reaction to delete the article simply because I started it. I am not interested in using the article to attack Esterson. If I intended to do that, I would say so directly and in no uncertain terms. Skoojal (talk) 23:51, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

That's a matter for the sysops who will consider the issue. And actually Skoojal much more notable people have had their BLP articles deleted. There have been ArbCom cases about it. I'm not an expert in that area of BLP so other editors & sysops will look into it--Cailil 23:56, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for advice

Cailil: I have been so caught up with dealing with Skoojal's (and other editor's) flood of comments about me on various pages that I completely forgot to thank you for your advice on how to deal with Skoojal starting an Allen Esterson Misplaced Pages page. Anyway, belated thanks. Esterson (talk) 11:44, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

You're very welcome Esterson, it's what sysops are supposed to do : )--Cailil 20:47, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

They might be back

I have reverted two Ettinger hunters today - here Christine Buci-Glucksmann and here Jean-François Lyotard please keep an eye out on those pages that were attacked previously. Thanks...Modernist (talk) 19:11, 25 September 2008 (UTC) ‎

and another - Hans Prinzhorn.

They are using lame pretexts to delete Ellinger. Modernist (talk) 19:25, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Sorry. Have been away. Will keep an eye on this--Cailil 14:13, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

request

I saw this user who is not constructive. http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:WayneMurphy2004 Could you grant me rollback rights? Or if you don't know how, can you support such rights and I can ask someone who knows how? I wouldn't necessarily use it for this person but it would be possibly useful.

Chergles (talk) 20:14, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

See you are on a Wikibreak but...

I think we may first have crossed paths during the David Usher incident, and so I wonder if, when you return, you could cast your eyeball over the Fathers' rights movement page and talkpage, and this page as well. The latter is not necessarily a model of what it should be, though I tried to remember of your Anacapa report, but it does attempt to describe my longstanding concerns about this editor, and my need for help and advice about what to do next!!! If you have any thoughts, do let me know. --Slp1 (talk) 00:34, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

nor

I just made three proposals at WP:NOR - feel free to comment, Slrubenstein | Talk 01:09, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

WP:ED

Please consider pitching in here. I think you have highly relevant experience on such issues! Slrubenstein | Talk 15:24, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Incivility warning

Hello. Please note that accusations of "povpushing," that you make in this edit summary, are considered by the Misplaced Pages community to be incivil and unnecessary. Please see also WP:POVPUSH. Thank you. Blackworm (talk) 10:07, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Check your facts Blackworm - the spamming of Save Indian Family across[REDACTED] is povpushing and has been povpushing (and has been under scrutiny since November 2006) - I incorrectly labeled my edit summary with "Ip" when in fact the account in question was User:Parthasarathy_B (who has been recognized as a spammer by other users - see their contribs).
Also I will remind you are not welcome on this talk page as has been the case for nearly 11 months. Please respect my wishes (and your agreement not to use this page) and don't come back here again - thank you--Cailil 13:39, 23 November 2008 (UTC)