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	:::Thank you for your analysis, which is wrong. I've checked this situation with IE, Firefox, Safari, Chrome and Opera under full screen and partial screen set-ups. Despite the geek's preference for other browsers, more people will access Misplaced Pages with IE (out of the box, with no special settings) than with any other browser, and therefore this problem needs to be addressed. You got a way to fix it, be my guest, in the meantime... <b><i>]</i> <sub>] / ]</sub></b> 03:00, 28 January 2009 (UTC)		:::Thank you for your analysis, which is wrong. I've checked this situation with IE, Firefox, Safari, Chrome and Opera under full screen and partial screen set-ups. Despite the geek's preference for other browsers, more people will access Misplaced Pages with IE (out of the box, with no special settings) than with any other browser, and therefore this problem needs to be addressed. You got a way to fix it, be my guest, in the meantime... <b><i>]</i> <sub>] / ]</sub></b> 03:00, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

			::::Ed, you need to bring your concerns up on the talk page for the manual of style. When we first discussed this several months ago, I was under the impression that it was specific to the Metropolis page and that it created significant readability issues, but that obviously isn't the case. I've reviewed your subpage regarding this, and there is nothing wrong when your HTML spacers are not used. Slight differences, nothing even close to being a problem. Numerous people disagree with you on this, as do the official Misplaced Pages styles. I don't think you're intentionally refusing to get the point, but this truly is a personal preference of yours, which is contrary to accepted Misplaced Pages formatting, that you're enforcing on a page by page basis. I'm not going to hunt all these spacer comments down, but I am going to remove them as I see them. Again, if you feel strongly about this then please bring it to a policy talk page. I sincerely hope that we don't butt heads over this in the future. ] <small>(])</small> 03:23, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

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Archive page 10: January 2009

Spacing comments in articles

If you've come here to inquire about the spacing comments I've added to certain articles, please see User:Ed Fitzgerald/spacing for an explanation of their purpose. Thanks. Ed Fitzgerald _{t / c} 20:12, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

James Cagney

Hi there! I seem to have forgotten to ask you for your opinion, bad me! Anyway, I've pretty much done the James Cagney article, so i'd really appreciate your opinion. I know the lead needs quite a bit of work, if not a complete rewrite, but at least the content is there to base it on now! So comments gratefully received, either on my talk page, or preferably, the article's talk page! Cheers, and Happy New Year :) --Ged UK (talk) 20:38, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

I've been watching, with approval and great respect, what you've been doing with the article as you've been working, so I know that it's in good shape. I will take a look at it in toto sometime this weekend, and post whatever comments I may have. Thank you for asking, I appreciate it. Ed Fitzgerald _{t / c} 01:54, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

IP Editors

For what it's worth, I agree with you. I know that part of the spirit and culture of Misplaced Pages are wrapped up in the concept of "anyone can edit". But at the same time, consider the huge amount of time that is soaked up every day in repetitive tasks that would not be required (or at least not as badly) if everyone had to have an email verified account to edit Misplaced Pages. I for one, would love to be able to find time to work on the article that has sat and gathered dust in my sandbox for more than a year now while I spend day in and day out cleaning up vandalism and blocking it's offenders. Trusilver 08:58, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it takes up so much of my time just going through my watchlist for vandalism etc., that I haven't done any substantive work on an article for months -- and that's the part I enjoy, and with which I think I can make a real contribution to the project.

Personally, I don't think the requirement of registering is such an onerous burden that it contradicts the "anyone can edit" trope. People are used to registering for all sorts of sites, it goes with the territory for being online these days. Perhaps one day, the lingering remnants of libertarian culture will loosen up enough to allow this to happen here, but I'm not holding my breath. Ed Fitzgerald _{t / c} 09:07, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

I know I'm not your favorite guy in the world, but I'm with you on that. I also agree that the indignant IP from earlier has spent a lot of time playing the martyr, and (even though I think his edits were valid) for all the time he's spent moaning about being put-upon, he may as well have registered an account. Kafziel 10:00, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Discussion

I just wanted to check to make sure that you were aware of this discussion which I started, as you have been involved in previous discussions on the subject. Regards, Guest9999 (talk) 02:17, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Guest: I've been somewhat peripherally aware of the conversation going on, but haven't delved into it at all. I start rehearsal for a new project tomorrow, and have been doing mostly mechanical editing lately as I prep for it, rather than anything requiring any brain power. I hope that in a day or so, I'll be able to contribute something. Thanks very much for the notice. Ed Fitzgerald _{t / c} 05:29, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Ida Lupino

Your reversion of my edit without giving valid rationale was very disappointing. Do you have ownership of this article? Kaiwhakahaere (talk) 05:22, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Take it to the talk page, not here. Ed Fitzgerald _{t / c} 05:34, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

I commented here on your page about an action you took, not content. I also asked a question about you. Your evasion is noted. Kaiwhakahaere (talk) 08:39, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

No evasion. Explanation on the article talk page, where it belongs. Goodbye. Ed Fitzgerald _{t / c} 20:32, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Whitespace

Ed, I hope it is not too forward of me to ask of you to stop adding whitespace to articles on purpose with . It is not part of the Misplaced Pages Manual of Style. Miami33139 (talk) 22:58, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Please see User:Ed Fitzgerald/spacing. Thanks. Ed Fitzgerald _{t / c} 01:12, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Ed, this is fundamentally your personal preference. It does not follow the Misplaced Pages Manual of Style, which says that issues of blank space should be left to the site wide style sheet and not manually manipulated in articles. ("Formatting issues such as font size, blank space and color are issues for the Misplaced Pages site-wide style sheet and should not be specified in articles except in special cases." "Check that your invisible comment does not change the formatting, such as introducing unwanted white space in read mode.")

Your examples only apply to your browser at your video width. Style issues and personal preferences do not translate universally to other devices which is why the MoS specifies that this should not be manually manipulated. Forced whitespace is very distracting to myself and others and we may have particular circumstances in in our personal abilities and browser environment. Your presumption about style and output is very annoying. Miami33139 (talk) 02:27, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your analysis, which is wrong. I've checked this situation with IE, Firefox, Safari, Chrome and Opera under full screen and partial screen set-ups. Despite the geek's preference for other browsers, more people will access Misplaced Pages with IE (out of the box, with no special settings) than with any other browser, and therefore this problem needs to be addressed. You got a way to fix it, be my guest, in the meantime... Ed Fitzgerald _{t / c} 03:00, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Ed, you need to bring your concerns up on the talk page for the manual of style. When we first discussed this several months ago, I was under the impression that it was specific to the Metropolis page and that it created significant readability issues, but that obviously isn't the case. I've reviewed your subpage regarding this, and there is nothing wrong when your HTML spacers are not used. Slight differences, nothing even close to being a problem. Numerous people disagree with you on this, as do the official Misplaced Pages styles. I don't think you're intentionally refusing to get the point, but this truly is a personal preference of yours, which is contrary to accepted Misplaced Pages formatting, that you're enforcing on a page by page basis. I'm not going to hunt all these spacer comments down, but I am going to remove them as I see them. Again, if you feel strongly about this then please bring it to a policy talk page. I sincerely hope that we don't butt heads over this in the future. Doctorfluffy (robe and wizard hat) 03:23, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Anatomy of a Murder

You put changed a reference so that there is a form error. Happy editing. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 02:54, 28 January 2009 (UTC) Stan

I think it's fixed now, thanks. Ed Fitzgerald _{t / c} 03:00, 28 January 2009 (UTC)