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A Happy New Year to you. Somebody nominated Amlaíb Cuarán as a good article. Might have waited until it was finished! Would you be able to have a look and see if there are any too glaring errors in it? I still need to expand the bit on his family and reputation and add something about Havelok the Dane. Not sure that there's enough background either. Certainly not enough for the eagle-eyed FA reviewers, but for GA? Maybe.
And I was wondering, is there an article could be written about historical synchronisms? At the moment the nearest there is is the mention of "The simultaneous occurrence of two or more events at the same instant on the same coordinated time scale" on that dab page. I was in Blackwells last week, but no Caledonia to Pictland yet. Boo! Hiss!
Cheers, Angus McLellan (Talk) 12:05, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
- From Hudson's Viking Pirates... (which is excerpted on Google books now); my copy is in Brussels and I am not. If you search it for "Havelok" you'll see more or less what he has to say. Vivid, misleading trivia. Angus McLellan (Talk) 15:43, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
- I wonder if I deserve a prize for figuring out who the tame expert for the first episode of the BBC Scotland History of Scotland was so quickly? Either it was a singularly bad map or Nechtansmere migrated to Badenoch. A bit of a give-away. I was quite impressed overall, although I have to say that they managed to find an awful lot more information on Giric than I've ever managed. Angus McLellan (Talk) 21:30, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
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Scandinavian migration to the United Kingdom
Regarding your move of Nordic migration to the United Kingdom to Scandinavian migration to the United Kingdom, I wondered why you thought the latter was more appropriate? The status of Iceland and Finland as Scandinavian countries is debatable, whereas I think it's generally accepted that they are all Nordic countries, so I think the previous title was better. Cordless Larry (talk) 22:06, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for your reply. I responded on my talk page. Cordless Larry (talk) 22:40, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
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Ive never touched this area of Wiki before, but I find myself with an article I might like nominated, can you help me out figuring out the system? The article is Robert de Bethune. Ealdgyth - Talk 19:16, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
- thanks. I think that was more complicated than figuring out GANs! GAH! I have hopes I might get him to FA one day, so figured since I did all that expansion, I'd at least try for the silly awards. Ealdgyth - Talk 21:04, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
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British people
The problem is if you only mention British citizens in the info box then there is nothing describing how many people there are with British ancestory. I fail to see why British people should be treated a different way to English people, Scottish people , Welsh people , Irish people , French people , German people etc. I wouldnt mind if the info box was changed to show the actual numbers identifying themeslves as English etc so people can see how the total is formed. But its offensive if wikipedias only article on British people is about British citizens. Just out of curiosity, how do you feel about European Americans. That article basically does the same thing as currently done on British people but i notice that has no tag.
In my opinion i would rather the warning of content problems than it contain totally inaccurate and offensive content by suggesting that British people are only British citizens. The article has remained that way for a year, and i can understand why nobody previously removed it. BritishWatcher (talk) 12:32, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
- Those articles should be improved too. That 9,209,813 in the USA, with 16 great-great grandparents, claim to be Scottish probably has just about no relation with number of Scottish people or those with a Scottish grandparent in the USA. Typically, people are biased by the surnames of everyone up to their grandparents, which is in turn biased by cultural prejudices of agnatic superiority. With "British", the problems are compounded by dates and differing definitions, and in my experience settling at citizenship makes all but ultra-nationalists happy. Typically also, the quality of editor on peoples pages is not very high either and they tend to attract the nuts, so they are always going to be of poor quality. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 12:42, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
- I disagree that it will make everyone happy apart from ultra-nationalists. If we only class British people as British citizens then we are treating British people in a different way to EVERY other people, which is offensive and wrong. French people has the correct balance explaining its about both french citizens and those with french ancestory. The table then shows both French citizen numbers around the world aswell as those claiming to be of French ancesory. When all of those other people articles only talk about citizens, then the British article should do the same, unil then it must follow the example of all others. On who fits in, anyone thats of English Scottish and Welsh ancestory. With a note that the figures dont include those from Northrtn Ireland as most countries only record people as of "irish" decent". BritishWatcher (talk) 12:58, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
- we should have this debate on the talk page though so we get other peoples points of view. If everyone else agrees the table should be removed and it should just be about citizens then i will accept it. BritishWatcher (talk) 12:58, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
- Judging by your user name and the giant flag on your page, you are quite patriotic about the UK. That's fine. But we follow WP:V, WP:NOR and WP:RS (as well as WP:IAR); British people as a concept has to be treated on[REDACTED] the way it is treated in reliable sources. If I may respectfully suggest, you are on[REDACTED] to improve an encyclopedia, not to satisfy an ideology. Editors not doing this tend to get ignored and sidelined, even by users who share their ideology but don't edit according to it, and in the end have even less impact on the things they most want to impact. So even from the pro-ideology point of view, it still makes sense to edit according to policy. Regards, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 13:07, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
- I think removing the content containing informaton on those of British ancestory and claiming that only British citizens are British people is incorrect, inaccurate, misleading as well as being offensive which is why i dont support the recent change. The table had been on the article for a year, so clearly not that many people felt strongly enough about its inclusion to remove it. I do not hide the fact that i am British and support the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. If we remove the articles on Welsh, English and Scottish people and said they are all British citizens so dont deserve their own article, then people would rightfully be offended by such a change. Suggesting that only British citizens are "british people" is a point of view. BritishWatcher (talk) 13:20, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
- Judging by your user name and the giant flag on your page, you are quite patriotic about the UK. That's fine. But we follow WP:V, WP:NOR and WP:RS (as well as WP:IAR); British people as a concept has to be treated on[REDACTED] the way it is treated in reliable sources. If I may respectfully suggest, you are on[REDACTED] to improve an encyclopedia, not to satisfy an ideology. Editors not doing this tend to get ignored and sidelined, even by users who share their ideology but don't edit according to it, and in the end have even less impact on the things they most want to impact. So even from the pro-ideology point of view, it still makes sense to edit according to policy. Regards, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 13:07, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Edit summaries
What strikes me the most is how unpleasantly you talk to me for the first time. I have no idea what infuriated so much. I just replaced Template:Infobox Monarch with Template:Infobox Royalty, which is used by all English monarchs and all Scottish monarchs from James I to Anne. I shouldn't have removed the Gaelic spelling, but surely there was a nicer way to inform me about your opinion. Surtsicna (talk) 14:18, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
- You're right about "unexplained" reverts. Most people consider Infobox Royalty nicer than Infobox Monarch, so I didn't think that edit summary was needed. I now see that my later edit summary was a bit hypocritical :) Thank you for understanding! Surtsicna (talk) 14:49, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
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User:Ealdgyth/History References if you're feeling like doing more historians.... Ealdgyth - Talk 13:50, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
- Just let me know when you do a new one so that I can update my list. I keep that so I don't have to retype references all the time, makes life a lot easier. I have User:Ealdgyth/Journal articles too. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:57, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
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Can you do me a favor and move Thrumere to Trumhere? It won't let me do it over a redirect. I doubt it'll be controversial. (If anyone but me has the page on their watchlist I'd die of shock...) Ealdgyth - Talk 13:36, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
- Done. I hope you were joking 'cos I had it watchlisted. Angus McLellan (Talk) 14:50, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
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Earldom of Bernicia
Hello Deacon of Pndapetzim. Your recent edit summary for Battle of Stainmore says 'no such thing as "earldom of Bernicia"', but a Google search brings up 148 pages. I know nothing at all about this, but I'm curious about the result. --Northernhenge (talk) 15:08, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
"earldom of Bernicia" on the face of it is a mixture of anachronism and antiquarianism for the 10th century, since earl is post-Cnutian Scandinavian term and "Bernicia" is an Anglo-Britonnic term from the 8th century. The term is used I suppose through insensitivity and because many scholars see the Bamburgh lordship as the same as the old northern half of the Northumbrian kingdom. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 18:28, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
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Redirect to disambig? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 06:21, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
Mitred abbots
Hi Deacon, doin' some stuff off-wiki but wondered if your copy of The Heads of Religious Houses in Scotland mentions if the abbots were mitred or not. I've got Arbroath, Cambuskenneth, Inchaffrey, Iona, Kelso, Kilwinning, Kinloss and Paisley who were mitred. I've also seen that the prior of Whitehorn was also mitred but that may be wrong. Thanks, Bill Reid | 16:38, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks, I've been on to the University of St Andrews Scottish parliament website and got some good info. Thanks again, Bill Reid | 17:43, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
- Here's the names I got: Arbroath, Balmerino, Cambuskenneth, Coupar Angus, Deer, Dunfermline, Fearn, Hollyrood, Inchaffrey, Inchcolm, Iona, Jedburgh, Kelso, Kilwinning, Kinloss, Lindores, Melrose, Newbattle, Paisley, Scone, St Andrews (prior of). Then I found An Historical Account of the Rise and Development of Presbyterianism in Scotland, Cambridge University Press, 1911, p. 6 which stated that there were "32 mitred abbots and priors" in Scotland at the Reformation. If that's the case then all abbots in Scotland were mitred yet in England at the Reformation there were only 27 mitred abbots and 2 mitred priors. So if a small abbey like Fearn was mitred then there could be some truth in all abbots had the mitre and if the figure 32 is correct, then there were 2 mitred abbots, one of which was definitely St Andrews. Rgds, Bill Reid | 11:46, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
Pope John Paul II
- Hello Deacon of Pndapetzim, We are looking for help on the Pope John Paul II article in order to improve it and raise it to ‘Good Article’ and eventually ‘Featured Article’ status. Any help would be much appreciated.
- Kind Regards Marek.69 02:03, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Latin text
You may, inter alia be interested in this disgraceful outburst. Ben MacDui 09:37, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
My (failed) RfA
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Why revert smackbot's dating of tags?
I don't understand your edit to Transport in Leeds - could you explain? PamD (talk) 23:26, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
- Just speculating here but I think he was doing a mass revert of the addition of the presently contentious "ibid" tag and maybe caught a few of the date ones by accident. –xeno (talk) 23:30, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Interested
It doesn't bother me one way or the other, but I was interested to see this edit, and wondered why you did it. No big deal. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 23:41, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
- I'm afraid a few will be caught. That's the reason. I'm afraid some will be caught and it's either that or I have to preview every one. I ain't doing that. A bot can replace them no bother. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 23:46, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Your input would be welcomed
See Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Poland#Monarchs_and_Dukes.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 06:22, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Rollback
As was pointed out to you there is no knowing what you have reverted, in addition to removing the tag you despise. If you had talked to me about it on my talk page it would have been trivial for me to do a clean revert. Rich Farmbrough, 12:16 22 January 2009 (UTC).
- This is your fault, Rich. And given the amount of work you caused me and others by misusing automated tools I thought you'd rather be thanking me. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 16:39, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
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Religious houses
No, in fact I've been adding to it on my mediawiki server on my computer so I'll upload maybe next week if I get a chance. I think you did the last update to it so I'll incorporate it. Rgds, Bill Reid | 17:57, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Wilfrid..
Thanks for the suggestion on the book. I've got a few other books on order that I'll use when the big FAC push comes, but right now, I just want him GA. (Actually, right now I'm just sick of Wilfrid period, but...) I'll look into ordering that one when I get the chance. Ealdgyth - Talk 19:03, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
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Hi, I noticed your tweaks. The old template organized the countries alphabetically (avoids arguments) - perhaps it's better to keep them alphabetically? Also, the heading "modern ireland" looks wrong. Thanks. --HighKing (talk) 18:50, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
Wulfsige Bishop of Cornwall
Can you fix this move for me? I'm still very shaky on my ISP after the move and I don't have time to deal with the move that just happened... Ealdgyth - Talk 00:30, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
- That got it. I didn't start the move, but I knew that Wulfsige Bishop of Cornwall wasn't the right name ... someone moved it from Wulfsige of Cornwall to Wulfsige Bishop of Cornwall, saying it was obviously mispelled. Ealdgyth - Talk 03:04, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
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Protection at white people
Hello. There were only circa eleven IP edits in the last three days, six by a single editor. In my opinon that's not "heavy and continued vandalism" Additionally, at the talk page I'd just delined to protect the page. Might you be willing to remove protection, in particlar as I'm attempting to engage the IP with the six reverts?
Thanks
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Chronicles question
In this book the author refers to the Galician-Livonian Chronicle. Is this the same as the Galician-Volhynian Chronicle or is it possibly the Livonian Chronicle? Any guidance welcome. Novickas (talk) 13:58, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
White people
Consensus at Talk:White people seems to be forming that semi-protection is not necessary at this time, since the (recent) primary disruption was coming from only one IP. Would you have any objection to lifting the protection? --Elonka 18:21, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
History of St Kilda
Hi, I've noticed you had some activity on this article--which isn't terribly high-quality and isn't very actively worked on. I gather that the article was spun off from the St Kilda, Scotland main article in hopes also to expand it; that seems not to have worked, and the section in the main article actually has a bit more content. Would you support a redirect back to the main article, since the experiment was not a success? Drmies (talk) 03:14, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
How to win a revert war
Your valuable and highly significant essay on this topic is currently being disparaged at the 3RR noticeboard. Someone even called it 'humorous.' EdJohnston (talk) 04:39, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
I have a parody essay I've been thinking of and I was considering creating a special header (maybe not a real template) that says something like "This is a parody essay. It attempts to make a point about Misplaced Pages by claiming that it is arguing the opposite of the point it truly wishes to make" specifically because some people just don't get subtle humor, especially humor trying to make a point. Thoughts?
BTW, Suggested addition: "To gather support, claim your opponent has a COI. The best thing is that you don't need any evidence and there is no defense. If that doesn't work, claim sock puppeting, even if you're only battling one editor." (see the item above on the noticeboard :-) RoyLeban (talk) 06:08, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
I think the person that reported the essay to AN(!) has way too much time on his/her hands. As someone else said on the noticeboard, it should be required reading for all editors. I think there are many people that more or less engage in the behavior indicated in the essay without much introspection. Hopefully the essay will provide introspection for some of us. I don't mean to toot my own horn, but I have a related essay on the natural development of Wikipedians. --C S (talk) 11:44, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- You might consider adding the {{humorantipolicy}} banner at the top of the essay. This would underscore its humorous nature and might avert misunderstanding. One of the essays which currently uses that banner is WP:Assume bad faith. EdJohnston (talk) 11:56, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- This mention of your essay in an Arbcom case suggests that not everyone is taking it as funny. I've suggested over at WP:AN3 that the essay could be rewritten. EdJohnston (talk) 21:07, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- When I saw your edit summary "Arbcom has no sense of humor", I thought surely they do, after all Charles Matthews is on Arbcom (although he would call it "humour"). Perhaps it's just coincidence, but his seems the only opinion that states there is nothing to be concerned about here. I like FloNight's example of "edit war mentality". I could bring most of the people I've met on Misplaced Pages to Arbcom based on such examples. --C S (talk) 22:14, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- This mention of your essay in an Arbcom case suggests that not everyone is taking it as funny. I've suggested over at WP:AN3 that the essay could be rewritten. EdJohnston (talk) 21:07, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
RE: Warning
You commentary has been read. I suppose User:Roux will also get a warning? Bosonic dressing (talk) 06:18, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Uh-huh. How can such a condescending editor be more restrained, yet revert for petty (and arguably unjustified) reasons, add multiple tags on whim, call me a 'troll', and consider common internet slang 'flaming' to be a personal attack about one's sexuality (which I didn't even know until said user pointed it out)? I'm done with this and you, and will avoid said parties like the plague. Bosonic dressing (talk) 06:29, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
How_to_win_a_revert_war essay
I was scanning through user essays, where I found your essay User:Deacon_of_Pndapetzim/How_to_win_a_revert_war listed. Although it is possibly intended to be humurous, I object to it's tone- 'hopefullly push an 'expert' off of wikipedia!' for example ( could be used to apply to real experts as well as deluded ones), it mentions how to circumvent the 3rr and why/how to use sockpuppets. Thus I feel it could be used for good or bad and as such falls into the 'not feeding them beans' arena and I see you quoted 'beans' this when removing the link to the essay from your userpage. Do you think it is a good idea to leave it in the user essays cat? LeeVJ (talk) 11:31, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- I take it the reply was on my talk page, sorry if it was any offence removing essay tag - but at the time it looked like you were going to ignore this question! Now you've added the humour tag I will exit stage left - as if it was tagged as such when I first read it I would've carried on by. I still think it's not a good idea to provide these guides , but there are several more so I guess it's a question of taste ? No offence meant, I'm just naturally slightly cynical and like to check things out, and happy editing LeeVJ (talk) 18:44, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
BigDunc blocks
There's an ANI thread ( ) on the blocks of BigDunc (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log). I'm notifying both Deacon and Tznkai ...
In my opinion, the reblocking for longer time period violated existing policy that we let blockees vent on their user talk page. I agree that what he posted in the talk page and edit summary was indefensibly rude and uncivil. However, the duration and degree was short and moderate, not extended and extreme. If he'd kept it up for days or made more vicious or more personal attacks on individual admins then the situation would be different, but what happened so far does not to me justify the extended block.
I am all for making Misplaced Pages more polite, and I deplore BigDunc's conduct here. But we have to be realistic - people object to being blocked, and vent about that. Reblocking people who vent leads to a vicious circle where a single minor incident spirals out of control into destroying someone's relationship with Misplaced Pages. That violates the intent and policy behind blocking.
Administrators need to be sensitive to not abusing people in the process of enforcing policy, particularly blocks. I believe that, well intentioned as the reblocks may have been from a civility standpoint, they were ultimately a mistake and counterproductive.
I propose to reduce BigDunc's block to the original 48-hr duration later tonight, after discussion on ANI. I am notifying both of the admins who reblocked him (Deacon and Tznkai) to allow discussion and get your input prior to any action being taken.
Please contribute your comments to the ANI thread to keep things centralized...
Thank you. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 01:17, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- You brought up the comparison to Mooretwin. Were you aware of the extenuating circumstances with regards to Mooretwin I have raised? SirFozzie (talk) 08:33, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- Per discussion on ANI - I have reduced the block term to the original 48 hrs from initial blocking, and unlocked his ability to edit his talk page. I will continue to monitor it for excessive responses etc, in case he escalates beyond what he's done so far. If you feel that he gets significantly worse I recommend reporting it on the ANI thread but leaving it alone yourself... Someone else who wasn't involved so far can make a less conflicted determination if the abuse escalates and justifies another response. Thanks. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 08:57, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
Oh lordy.
Could you please take a look at this and handle accordingly? It looks like an incipient witchhunt, and I have very little patience for this sort of nonsense. Particularly when it's being conducted offwiki. //roux 07:20, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- Ta. //roux 07:31, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- I asked the question because in the discussion above 'add multiple tags on whim,' sounded like possible applied use of the essay i.e.3. Tag sentences elsewhere. (apply tags to bog editor down). I hinted at off-wiki since thought it unlikely to be this, reply would be biased and not worth bogging down wiki with it. Since other discussions are ongoing I have withdrawn the question. LeeVJ (talk) 18:35, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- BD's comment 'adding multiple tags on whim' is sheer fiction. I don't do that. //roux 18:58, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- I asked the question because in the discussion above 'add multiple tags on whim,' sounded like possible applied use of the essay i.e.3. Tag sentences elsewhere. (apply tags to bog editor down). I hinted at off-wiki since thought it unlikely to be this, reply would be biased and not worth bogging down wiki with it. Since other discussions are ongoing I have withdrawn the question. LeeVJ (talk) 18:35, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
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Review Board
Please do not place a rejected tag on this again; at this time, the policy is being examined by the committee. — Coren 23:48, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
RE: Lame
Were I casting stones (which I am not doing), then they would most likely be cast in the direction of the person who's desire to have the "last word" was reverted by three different editors. However, as I said, I am most assuredly not pointing fingers, as the last thing needed in this Greek tragedy is yet more drama. --Kralizec! (talk) 18:50, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Battle of Barry
A new article has been created for Camus (Danish general) by another user. I'm not sure a fictional character merits his own page when he is only known in relation to one fictional battle, the Battle of Barry. A candidate for merging or speedy deletion? Or leave it as it is? --Catfish Jim and the soapdish (talk) 11:38, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
RE: Huh?
The community is not purely constituted by administrators Deacon; that's been long-established. No one disputed the incivility; I said that pretty clearly in my review. But what was unanimous was that you should not have blocked or block-extended. Adding SirFozzie, myself and Giano would make 6 users who disagreed with your block (7 if Tznkai was to be included). There was nothing preventative in keeping the block for longer than that, given the user's assurance. I don't recall having a grudge with you at any point - could you explain why you've made such an assumption other than strongly disagreeing with something I've said during/after this incident? It was an honest review; no different to those I've given for many other admin actions - the way I met LessHeard vanU for the first time was through a similar review. By contrast, his response was far different to yours.
As for revert-warring, having read this, I can see why you can't understand. Ncmvocalist (talk) 16:54, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
- Gents, the carcass is so beaten and bloody it can no longer be identified as a horse. Let's move on. –xeno (talk) 16:58, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
ANI
A thread which may concern you has been started here: Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Admin abuse of tools. best, –xeno (talk) 19:47, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Removal of infobox of 'White British' article.
Why are you always removing the infobox of the 'White British' article? If the 'Black British' and 'Mixed British' not to mention the 'White American' articles have them, why not 'White British', the 'White British' are equal to Black British, Asian British and , Mixed British, not inferior to them!John Rushton83 (talk) 20:20, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
NotAnotherAliGFan's block
Hi. Thanks for intervening in the matter. However, are you sure that three days isn't a bit much? When I was knew to Misplaced Pages, I unknowingly violated 3RR because I wasn't familiar with that rule, and was blocked for only one day. A check on NotAnotherAliGFan's edits shows that he's accumulated only 367 edits since February 2007, 357 of which were made only since last August. It's possible that he wasn't familiar with 3RR. Are you sure a day or two isn't enough? Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 00:43, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
- No, not at all. I was unaware that he had been blocked twice before. Sorry to bother you. Thanks. :-) Nightscream (talk) 01:17, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
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Thanks
For your recent comments at AN/I in support of my actions. One small point; re "John's previous "involvement"", I wasn't involved at all in the article or its talk before I warned those four editors, but went straight there from AN/I when it was raised there; see here for a full account if you're interested. It seemed to me then like a cut and dried case of bad fair use. It still does, frankly, but I see now that there are respected editors arguing on the other side. It's an even more highly charged area than I had imagined. We may need to go to RfC or RfAr to resolve it, or else tolerate the dispute for another year or whatever. Anyway, thanks for taking the time and trouble to look into it and to speak in my defense. --John (talk) 05:23, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
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Hurrah! Got back to Scotland last night and The Book was waiting for me. So I have now skimmed through JEF's magnum opus from Introduction to Postscript. Lots to think about! First and foremost it strikes me that 17 April 2009, two months and a day from now, will be the fourteenth centennial of Áedán mac Gabráin's death, probably, and a racing cert for getting him on the front page. I had best get my skates on as there's an awful lot to be tarted up between now and then. Cheers! Angus McLellan (Talk) 14:04, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
disputing ban for a 3 revision rule violation
I have another computer which was recently (less then an hour) blocked for a 3 revision violation. It's IP address is 141.154.110.173 and it posts under that ID. The address gets changed at various times by the internet company
There is no 3 revision violation. It is my understanding that for a 3 revision violation I need to revert the same thing 3 times. I did not do so and have never done so. While I was engaged is a undo war earlier today I stopped at 2 reverts while the other person went to 3. I did not report this person as we came to an amicable conclusion of the argument once he relied he had stepped over the line and he reverted his last revert bringing the total reverts for both of us to 2. I do not wish you to in any way shape or form harass that individual. We came to an amicable conclusion and the matter was settled to both our satisfaction. I wish it to remain closed.
The fake violation notification likely came from an individual posting under the handle of Salty Boatr. He is is quite unhappy that he does not control all aspects of the Second Amendment article and has been quite obstructionist with other editors, not least myself. Earlier today he threatened to report me for a number of violations for which I am not guilty off due to his unhappiness over a dispute of source material.
Again I did not at any time exceed the 3 revert rule for the same material. I have reverted different material in dispute but never the same material 3 times. Please check the history of the second Amendemt edits to confirm. Upon confirmation please remove the block from the above ID.
As part of this post I want to report this incident as it is obviously harassment well beyond what wiki policy allows. I ask that whoever did this be banned for the longest period wiki allows for harassment of another editor. 4.154.237.88 (talk) 04:19, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
- WP:3RR is clear that A revert is any action ... that reverses the actions of other editors, in whole or in part. and that Contributors must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period, whether or not the edits involve the same material. Whether or not the material is the same doesn't matter. Regards, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 04:39, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
User Nickhh and 3RR
Thanks for looking into that. I've had to report him again, as he's just violated 3RR on another article. You'll find the report in the same section on WP:AN/3RR. Jayjg 04:44, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
your note
Thank you for the advice, I will take it to heart. NoCal100 (talk) 05:02, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Battle of Barry
I've made a few improvements to Battle of Barry, and was thinking of nominating it for GA status. As it falls into your area of interest (Medieval Scotland), I wondered if you would have a look at it and suggest any improvements? I'd like to strengthen the referencing for Boece not being a credible source.--Catfish Jim and the soapdish (talk) 14:08, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
African Romance
Hello!
What do you mean the title is not ambiguous? Have a look: SamEV (talk) 21:43, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
What way Further?
Hello, I understand that the block for my account is for some obvious reasons. Sorry I am fairly new here. But the cause I did that is not wrong, The concerned guy is some language fanatic, he simply wont discuss that topic. All he does is he just reverts it, so why was the ban not imposed on his account? Swapnils2106 (talk) 12:34, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
- The above user is not ready to discuss with me in article talkpage, he simply keep on reverting my edits. I'm the main contributor of the Bhimsen Joshi article. C21K 12:56, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
- In[REDACTED] we are adding only native language scripts. for instance see Aishwarya Rai, Lata Mangeshkar C21K 12:55, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
A Request
Sir, please check this edit made by an IP on my talkpage. That IP is used by User:Swapnils2106, and he is reverting my edits again. C21K 13:12, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
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Drudge Report
Can you look into how the Drudge Report is being moderated. It seems Ratel (http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Ratel) has been engaging in edit wars with many of the users who try to improve the page (check out the talk page on Drudge Report). I notice you have warned him in the past, specifically for the 3-revert rule. 24.187.132.126 (talk) 05:29, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Either...
Deal with things fairly, or don't bother. It is remarkable that BigDunc can be trolled and abused for days on end, yet when he reacts you block him and do nothing to the person causing the problem. O Fenian (talk) 13:41, 26 February 2009 (UTC)