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Kyrgyzstan photos are here!

Hi! I hope your move is going well and you'll be settled in soon. I've returned home myself, and I've uploaded my Kyrgyzstan photos to flickr . I'm not sure which ones to use, and I do need more information about some of them. If you have info, or want to suggest which ones to use, please leave comments on the photos -- I think that will be easier than leaving comments on my talkpage because it'll be difficult to identify photos based on talkpage comments alone. Aelfthrytha (talk) 14:52, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Jim N E Cricket, its another Oregon Collaboration of the Week

Greetings WikiProject Oregon folks, it is time for another edition of the Collaboration of the Week! A big thanks to those who helped out in improving Tom McCall and the Willamette Meteorite last week. This week we have a request for Mr. Greg Oden who has been back in the news as of late, so hopefully we can get him up to B class before training camp starts. Then we have a Hospital red link drive with plenty of opportunity for DYKs! As always, click here to opt out of these messages, or click here to make a suggestion for a future COTW. Bu bye. Aboutmovies (talk) 15:44, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Stephen Payne (lobbyist)

Hi, someone seems interested in adding lots of new text to Stephen Payne (lobbyist). However, they seem to be inserting text inside the references in a strange way. Can you just check and make sure it's all formatted properly? Thanks, Badagnani (talk) 22:20, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Ssssh, Be Very Very Quiet, its Oregon COTW time

Howdy folks, its time for this week’s edition of Oregon’s Collaboration of the Week. First off, great job the last two weeks with Greg Oden & the Hospital red link drive. We had close to ten new hospital articles and two DYKs () plus other improvements to the list itself. So thank you to those who helped out. This week, we have on a sad note Kevin Duckworth, and the Statesman Journal. Duckworth should have plenty of sources so hopefully in tribute we can get his article up to standards. With the SJ, hopefully we can get it above a stub so all three of the top three papers are no longer stubs, and maybe even a DYK and GA like we got from the Register-Guard? Once again, click here to opt out of these messages, or click here to make a suggestion for a future COTW. Hasta la bye bye. Aboutmovies (talk) 20:15, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

WP:ORE COTW Version 2.2

Hello WikiProject Oregon contributors. It's time for another COTW. Thank you to those who helped improve Kevin Duckworth and the Statesman Journal last week, we received another DYK () for the SJ. This week, by request we have Mr. Ken Kesey and not by request Nike, Inc.. Nike is the only Start class article in the top 30 of those articles selected for the hard copy edition, and it could easily be improved to B class. Once again, click here to opt out of these messages, or click here to make a suggestion for a future COTW. Aboutmovies (talk) 23:53, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Red red links make me feel so fine...

Greetings WikiProject Oregon editors. It's time for another edition of the COTW. Thank you to those who helped improve Ken Kesey and the Nike, Inc. last week. This week, by request we have the Northwest Forest Plan and then a Red Link Elimination Drive. For the red links, pick any one you want from any article, the list provided is just to help make it easier. And if you get a good article started, don’t forget to nominate it for a DYK. Once again, click here to opt out of these messages, or click here to make a suggestion for a future COTW. Aboutmovies (talk) 20:47, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Very Special COTW, act now!

Greetings WikiProject Oregon peoples. It is once again time for another edition of the COTW. Thank you to those who helped eliminate some red links the last few weeks (the NWFP received little attention). This week, we have the stub High Desert Museum and then in honor of losing airline service again, McNary Field. Once again, click here to opt out of these messages, or click here to make a suggestion for a future COTW. Aboutmovies (talk) 07:14, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

National Library of the Kyrgyz Republic

Has a photo finally! Aelfthrytha (talk) 05:09, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

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Howdy WikiProject Oregon humans. Time for another edition of the C to the O to the T to the W. Thanks to those who help out on McNary Field and Bend’s High Desert Museum. For this week, we shall tackle Bridges on US 101 and then with the last few days of decent weather, The Semi-Annual Picture Drive. Plenty of red links on the bridge list, or improve a stub! Once again, click here to opt out of these messages, or click here to make a suggestion for a future COTW. Aboutmovies (talk) 09:57, 29 October 2008 (UTC)XXX"> XXX">

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Elect the Best Financed, Least Offensive Person For the Job (aka Oregon COTW)

Hello fellow WikiProject Oregon folks, it’s time for another COTW. But first, just remember that those other guys only want to raise your taxes, but I won’t. A big thank you to those who helped make improvements to Bridges on US 101 and participating in The Semi-Annual Picture Drive. And unlike the other guys, I won’t ship your jobs overseas! This week, we have Mr. Bipartisan Wayne Morse who went from being a Republican to an Independent and finally to a Democrat. Then, let’s see if we can finish up creating articles for members of the Oregon House before their January inauguration. As always, click here to opt out of these messages, or click here to make a suggestion for a future COTW. I’m Aboutmovies, and I approve this message. Paid for the committee to elect Aboutmovies. Aboutmovies (talk) 19:45, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Harvest Time @ COTW

Greetings WikiProject Oregon folks, it’s time for another edition of the fabled COTW. Thank you to all who helped make improvements to Wayne Morse and creating some members of the Oregon House. This week, we have by request Upper Klamath Lake which think made the news lately with a salmon plan. Then, in honor of the end of the harvest time, we will go farming with Fort Stevens. There is a beautiful link farm in the article that is ripe for harvesting into citations. It should provide for a bountiful feast, or alternatively you can take your hoe to it and weed some out. As always, click here to opt out of these messages, or click here to make a suggestion for a future COTW. WARNING: COTW is not approved for children under 3 and may contain choking hazards for small children. DO NOT leave your child unattended with COTW. Aboutmovies (talk) 08:42, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for edits to Bukharan PSR

Thanks for this edit of Bukharan People's Soviet Republic. Don't know how I and everyone else missed all that for 2 years. — AjaxSmack 09:44, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Шанхайская организация сотрудничества

Мне показалось, что ШОС не центро-азиатская организация, а евразийская. К тому же там очень много этих окошек. А участники и так уже перечислены во многих местах. Вы вообще меня преследуете :-)? Emilfaro (talk) 08:34, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Вот взять, например, European Union: там внизу не перечислены страны участники евросоюза. И нет никаких центро-европейских союзов... Or should I speak English? Emilfaro (talk) 08:43, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

This is prodigal55 -- you left a message on my talk page this past December 4.

It is correct that my account under user name prodigal55 has only been used to edit the KIMEP article. If I were to make edits under this name to other Misplaced Pages articles where I have the knowledge and interest to do so, it would be easy from the "contributions" page for members of the "trash KIMEP" brigade, such as bushmills2000 who has recently reinstated inflammatory content into that article, to guess my identity. Hence I have used other user names when editing other articles.

The "controversies" section of the KIMEP article is so blatantly in conflict with Misplaced Pages's insistence on "neutral point of view" that neither I nor anyone else should have to edit it -- it should not be there in the first place -- hence my earlier deletion.

I have no problem with no lolnger making edits to the KIMEP article. But "neutral point of view" needs to be enforced consistently, to edits made by disgruntled ex-faculty as well as serving administrators.Prodigal55 (talk) 19:12, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Assyrian Christian Stele

Thank you for what you tried to do here. The guy is not having it. Can we get an admin? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 21:19, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

The only thing I can think of is get 3O or find another admin, I will look into it. You're right about the apathy or lack of reading. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 04:45, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

• It has been proposed that Nestorian Stele be renamed and moved to Memorial of the Propagation in China of the Luminous Religion from Daqin. Please give your views on the talk page for this article. Aymatth2 (talk) 03:19, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

• This move discussion has been interesting, sometimes amusing. See last paragraph in User talk:Aymatth2#Stele. I actually thought it would be an uncontroversial proposal to use a more neutral primary name, leaving the common name as a redirect. Obviously not. There will clearly be no consensus that the move should be done. After reading the arguments I reluctantly have to agree that it should not move. If you have no objection I would like to close the discussion. Do you know the right process? Aymatth2 (talk) 13:44, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

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It is sort of interesting subject - not a new one. I have read a few books that mentioned it. In the early days there were many intense controversies over the nature of Christ and his relationship with God, subtle distinctions of wording that caused excommunications, counter-excommunications, anathemas and even wars. It is hard to throw one's mind into the way people thought in those days, but the distinctions to them were much more important than any worldly concerns since they were about eternal life after death. As I recall, Nestorius went too far for most orthodox thinkers in making a fairly sharp distinction between the human and divine natures of Christ. The Syriac Christians were more sympathetic to Nestorius's views than the Greeks (there may have been some subtleties lost in translation between Aramaic and Greek) but under the leadership of Babai the Great they mostly moved to the more mainstream view that both natures existed but were inextricably intermingled. Although they considered Nestorius was a wise man and a Saint, they did not consider themselves "Nestorians". However, the Greeks and Romans continued to call them Nestorians, implying that they were heretics, which the Syriac Christians violently denied. An ancient controversy. The Nestorian tag was accepted as received truth by Western scholars, based on its universal usage in the huge Roman Catholic literature and the inaccessibility of Syriac sources.

When the Jesuits reached China, at a time when the Roman Catholic church was fighting hard against protestant "heretics" in the west and Orthodox, Coptic etc. "heretics" in the east, they were surprised to find evidence of earlier Christians in the area, and naturally labeled them "Nestorians" - not true Christians. That label has stuck. It is an inaccurate label, slightly insulting to the Syriac Christians. A bit like Papist or Mohammedan - a distortion of their beliefs. The more serious non-Catholic scholars in the last century or so have usually referred to the famous tablet as the "so called Nestorian stele", or something like that, but the common usage for Westerners who do not care about these ancient theological debates is simply "Nestorian Stele".

If Misplaced Pages had existed 30 years ago, it would probably have had an entry for Red Indian, but now that term redirects to Indigenous peoples of the Americas. We have accepted the new term as more correct, and the term "Red Indian" has dropped out of use. Perhaps some day we will start to see "Nestorian" as an incorrect term to use for the early Christians who prosyletized in China. The term is not used for the Syriac-origin churches that have long been established in Southern India, now called the Jacobite Syrian Christian Church. I would not be comfortable with Assyrian Church of the East as a politically correct alternative to "Nestorian" when talking about the early Chinese and Mongolian Christians, because the early Syriac churches split and merged and split again into various successor churches, of which today's Assyrian Church of the East is just one. I would prefer the simpler "Syriac Christian". But this is academic. Until "Nestorian" is perceived as politically incorrect in describing these early Christians, which may take a very long time indeed, I have to accept that it is the preferred name based on the relevant Misplaced Pages policies.

What amazes me is the amount of passion that this academic quibble about the name of an ancient stone has generated. :~) Aymatth2 (talk) 17:08, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

blindly reverting

Hey Otebig, any chance you can participate in the discussions at Talk:Kyrgyzstan and Misplaced Pages talk:Lead section rather than just blindly reverting? TungstenCarbide (talk) 21:27, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

An apology

Hi Otebig, I apologize for not leaving you a note here to let you know exactly my rationale on closing the Afd early. Probably would've saved you an aneurysm. :) From your second post to my talk page, I think you understand my reasoning now, but if you have any further concerns, please let me know so I can help out. Cheers,--Aervanath (talk) 19:08, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with File:SDU logo.jpg

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Kazakh Image

Hi, I have taken this picture in 1987. Our guide told us that these people were Kazakhs but I have not personally talked with them. So I cannot affirmed that they were actually Kazakhs. Bgag (talk) 22:14, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Kazakhs photos

Hello, may you change this photos: "A. Kasteev", "Market vendor", "Kazakhs Nomades in China"?? I think that photos not actual and not pretty for World WikipediA. --Kazakhstani_Admin (talk) 14:14, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Good luck!

		The Barnstar of Integrity
		I award you for being a man worthy of that name. And also thank you for the help with trade blocs, and appreciate your interest in the SCO and "Central Asia" in general :-) Emilfaro (talk) 18:32, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

RE: Wikiquette alert

Thanks for taking the action and thanks for informing me. His behavior is very alarming -- including his user page. In (almost) the same vein, you may find it interesting to peruse the latest postings by anon on Talk:Döner kebab and this posting (by the same person) on my talk page. The language and the tone are simply unbelievable. Best, --Zlerman (talk) 15:52, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

RE: Kazakhstan article

Thank you for your message on my talk page . The removal of the {{pp-vandalism}} template by Debresser (talk · contribs) is perfectly fine as the article's protection expired on the 15th. As the article's edit history shows, my semi-protection of the article was just for seven days. While the article has been edited several times since this protection ended, I only count three reverts (including my own just now) in the past three days, which is not sufficiently high enough to justify protection on a high profile article like this one. Please let me know if you have any other questions or issues. Thanks, Kralizec! (talk) 21:56, 18 March 2009 (UTC)