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| Hi there! :) Sorry, but as I said in my AfD nomination for ], "character is not notable on her own" to warrant her own article. There seems to be very little that supports the character's ] outside the film. The articles you cited seem to talk about the film, and not the character alone (they would actually be much more useful additions to the film article than a separate article about Anya). It's not really enough that the character has been included in several film-related merchandise; her notability as an individual character outside the original film - and the merchandise associated with the film - has to be established. Though I won't be withdrawing my nomination for deletion, I'm not opposed to merging the information from the sources you cited into the film article, as I believe it would really help improve the film article's quality. :) --''']''' <sup>]</sup> 06:04, 20 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
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I am not sure what was on the previous version of the article, but the following out of universe information can be added from "Resistance 2: Getting To Know Nathan Hale," PlayStation The Official Magazine 13 (November 2008): 62: the character is voiced by David Kaye. PTOM states that "The Resistance 2 story is all about Nathan Hale and his role in this great conflict." Ted Price, one of the game developers, adds, "Internally we wanted to know more about Hale, and focusing on him provided the opportunity to answer questions about him." Thus, I encourage someone to restore the article and add this information in a manner such as this:
Nathan Hale is the protagonist of the Playstation 3 games Resistance: Fall of Man and its sequel Resistance 2. He is voiced by David Kaye.
Development
Ted Price, one of the game developers, adds, "Internally we wanted to know more about Hale, and focusing on him provided the opportunity to answer questions about him."
Biography
Hale killed practically every chimera in England and then went to America to win again.
Reception
PTOM states that "The Resistance 2 story is all about Nathan Hale and his role in this great conflict." Playstation Universe lists Hale among the top five Playstation 3 characters thus far.
References
- "Resistance 2: Getting To Know Nathan Hale," PlayStation The Official Magazine 13 (November 2008): 62.
- "Resistance 2: Getting To Know Nathan Hale," PlayStation The Official Magazine 13 (November 2008): 62.
- "Resistance 2: Getting To Know Nathan Hale," PlayStation The Official Magazine 13 (November 2008): 62.
- Dave Wales, "Top five PlayStation 3 characters thus far," Playstation Universe (March 16th, 2008): http://www.psu.com/Top-five-PlayStation-3-characters-thus-far--a0003095-p0.php
Restoration
Nathaniel is a character in Jonathan Stroud's Bartimaeus Trilogy. Nathaniel is one of the main characters of this series. After coming of age as a magician when he was 12 years old, he was granted the new name of John Mandrake, and is known by this name to everyone but the title character, Bartimaeus and in the later part of Ptolemy's Gate to Kitty.
Attributes
Appearance
In The Amulet of Samarkand he is described as being small and scrawny with dark hair. His hair, as he increases in rank, becomes increasingly long, but during the gap between The Golem's Eye and Ptolemy's Gate he has opted for a crew cut in (politically advantageous) tribute to the soldiers fighting in America. He is further described as attractive, with "the scent of power around him" and of medium height and slender build, his forehead prematurely lined (Ptolemy's Gate, U.S. Edition, pg. 21).
Personality
Nathaniel is, at first, a small, shy boy uncomfortable with anyone who is not Mrs. Underwood or Ms. Lutyens. He is very nervous and scared by Bartimaeus when he first summons the demon. As the books progress, and he becomes more and more proficient, he also becomes more confident, and possibly overconfident. He works fervently when motivated, as is shown when he furthers his education with incredible speed in The Amulet of Samarkand. Throughout the books he also shows signs of ambition to rise through the ranks of the government, a common goal among magicians. Bartimaeus compares him more than once to Simon Lovelace, as they share a similar mindset, and habitual tics, such as stroking back their hair.
Role in books
The Amulet of Samarkand
In The Amulet of Samarkand, Nathaniel starts off as a young boy who, at the age of five, had been given up by his parents to apprenticeship under a mediocre Whitehall magician named Arthur Underwood, the assistant minister of Internal Affairs. Underwood begins teaching the boy in magic, but Nathaniel, being inquisitive, decides to advance his education to higher levels without the knowledge of his tutor.
However, at the age of eleven, in his master's house, Nathaniel is publicly humiliated by a greedy and ambitious young magician named Simon Lovelace. In a fit of juvenile fury, Nathaniel hatches a plan for vengeance. He sets several mites (a weak kind of imp) on Lovelace, but Lovelace is powerful and stops the mites, then proceeds to beat Nathaniel as punishment.
Later, after much research and preparation, Nathaniel summons Bartimaeus, a 5,000-year-old djinni, to exact his revenge on Lovelace. Mrs. Underwood - Nathaniel's master's wife - inadvertently reveals Nathaniel's true name to Bartimaeus. This vastly limits Nathaniel's control over the djinni, because spells can be cast on people when their true name is known (hence the practice of assigning names).
In the end, Nathaniel earns the respect of the majority of the other magicians including Rupert Devereaux, the Prime Minister. He is accepted as a magician in the government.
The Golem's Eye
Nathaniel summons Bartimaeus again, facing off against the Resistance and sinister magicians.
The second book picks up almost three years later and features Nathaniel as a junior magician working his way up the government ranks. He is described as one of the governments' rising young stars. In this book, Kitty Jones is introduced as an important character. She is a part of the Resistance movement, which seeks to end the oppressive rule of the magicians. Nathaniel is tasked by his superiors to crush the Resistance movement and capture the members. His task is complicated when a seemingly invulnerable clay golem starts to make random attacks on London. Much to the displeasure of Bartimaeus, Nathaniel recalls the djinni to aid him in uncovering the origins of the golem, and to save his own skin.
During the course of the book Nathaniel is almost fired from his post and executed for treason. By the end of the book however he has come back to favor when Duvall's conspiracy comes to light.
Ptolemy's Gate
In Ptolemy's Gate, Nathaniel has risen to the ruling Council and is arguably the most powerful magician in the government. He stands against a force of hybrid magicians with spirits trapped inside them, led by Nouda. Romantic feelings are hinted at in the book at various points between Kitty and himself. Nathaniel summons Bartimaeus into his body to help fight the Hybrids with Gladstone's staff, and destroys most of them, leaving only Nouda alive. However, during this fight, Nathaniel is seriously injured and he loses strength quickly, even with Bartimaeus' assistance. When Nathaniel and Bartimaeus confront Nouda, Nathaniel dismisses Bartimaeus which saves Baritmaeus just prior to the staff being destroyed killing both Nouda and Nathaniel. Bartimaeus returned to the Other Place, but is known to have survived; according to his "journal", he was summoned by a female magician with a stutter afterwards. Kitty, in the end, goes visit her old friend Jakob before she begins to travel around the world in a new life.
Trivia
- Nathaniel's chosen magician name, John Mandrake, may be a reference to the popular comic strip and real life magician, Mandrake the Magician
- Nathaniel's birthday is on November 26, as confirmed by the author.
External links
References
Hi
Your welcome template was rather random... How did you notice this IP? I'm Antivenin, btw. I'm browsing for a while before I sleep, which'll be in like 5 minutes. 122.162.176.133 (talk) 20:37, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- You edited a page on my watch list, that is how I welcome editors. Best, --A Nobody 20:39, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the greeting! The welcome message was quite surprising, and also nice to have, too.. nice to have someone notice your trivial changes! What's probably more surprising, though, is the huge community of editors Misplaced Pages has! I'm trying to get a community of people who care about knowledge as much as this, but it's hard to get people involved... (it's sharetolearn.net, by the way :)). 72.181.209.145 (talk) 05:02, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- You're welcome! Happy editing! Good luck with your site. Sincerely, --A Nobody 05:04, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Why the fuck?
Why the fuck would you welcome an IP address that is involved in off-wiki harrassment involving myself. Seriously this is the final straw. The IP address posed a link to a harrassment site which I'm the subject almost a week ago. That edit wasn't reverted, and the IP welcomed by you? I'm gone and this time I really mean it. Scrambling passwords, clearly I'm considered a troll here. Secret 00:29, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- Is this the above bit? I google and don't see 122.162.176.133 listed anywhere. On wikipedia, he has two contributions only, one posted above, and another talking to someone quite friendly on their page, ever so briefly. Dream Focus 01:29, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- You got me; I generally only welcome IPs who have contributed to pages on my watch list; thus, I might have accidentally welcomed the wrong IP when I meant to click on another one on my watch list with a red linked talk page, i.e. this IP may have shown up next to some other one and I clicked the wrong one. I absolutely do not condone anything like what you describe as I deem off-wiki harassment despicable and as such would gladly retract any welcome that wasn't deserved. Also, I'll check through the edits to see if I can figure out what you are referring to and will ask an admin off wiki to delete and/or oversight any edits that I believe put you in any danger if necessary. Sincerely, --A Nobody 03:11, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- 122.162.176.133 is User:Antivenin but I'm not aware they are in a dispute with anyone. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 10:25, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- I am checking through to see what it might be and will off-wiki ask a trusted admin to delete or possibly oversight if whatever the IP left is serious enough. If what Secret says above is corret, i.e. the IP is involved in off-wiki harassment, I would not want him to be put in any additional danger here by posting any possible diffs that he obviously did not want acknowledged in the first place. So, while I appreciate the good faith help, we don't want to give an IP used for harassment any greater attention here; again, if there is anything serious enough, I will find it and will see to it that a trusted admin make sure anything potentially damaging to Secret is removed. If you notice anything else that I should pass along to admin for deletion or oversight purposes concerning this, please email me off-wiki. In such circumstances, we have to be usre to protect our fellow editors' privacy as much as possible. Sincerely, --A Nobody 22:01, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- 122.162.176.133 is User:Antivenin but I'm not aware they are in a dispute with anyone. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 10:25, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Bilateral
- As a reminder there are more articles up for deletion that can use more Google searching and more references added and they are here --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 16:56, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- i refactored a little regarding the contenst. hope you dont mind. Ikip (talk) 17:25, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- No big deal. Sincerely, --A Nobody 17:26, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for your support
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Unfortunately, my RFA was closed recently with a final tally of 75½/38/10. Though it didn't succeed, I wanted to thank you for your support and I hope I can count on it in the future. Even though it didn't pass, it had a nearly 2 to 1 ratio of support and I am quite encouraged by those results. I intend to review the support, oppose, and neutral !votes and see what I can do to address those concerns that were brought up and resubmit in a few months. If you would like to assist in my betterment and/or co-nominate me in the future, please let me know on my talk page. Special thanks go to Schmidt, , TomStar81, and henrik for their co-nominations and support. — BQZip01 — |
- Well, keep up the good work and I will gladly support again. Best, --A Nobody 17:56, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Please be more careful
Your welcome tagging is a bit careless A Nobody. Three times now you've tagged "welcome" messages on talkpage, that upon very simple observation, are obviously not new users in need of "welcome." For example "User talk:LOTRrules2" (see the history, I cleared this one), also User talk:78.150.215.186, and User talk:89.242.166.15, quite clearly, are all the same person, indefinitely blocked User:LOTRrules. The welcome is coming across as very careless and impersonal to continue to "welcome" a block-evading editor, which I know is not your intention. Please be more careful. Check the contribs of the actual user you are welcoming before you simply slap a template, please? Keeper | 76 03:33, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
- I think welcoming new users is very important. Of course there will be mistakes, but the welcoming of new users, out weighs the mistakes. Those problem users will be dealt with appropriately, regardless of the welcome. Ikip (talk) 03:42, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
- I regularly welcome new users as well Ikip, and agree it has an important place on Misplaced Pages. I'm simply asking politely for "A Nobody" to be more careful in the future. Thanks for your input. Keeper | 76 03:46, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
97.124.231.159 (talk) wishes you peace!
97.124.231.159 (talk) 17:17, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks! Sincerely, --A Nobody 17:18, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
A query...
- In viewing your talk, after having seen your welcome to me, I noted someone who is a user named "Secret". I wonder what this is, I do not have time to go chasing users as some people here seem to do. But what I wish to know is whether this is a username or is it an option here?Please respond if you are able on MY talk page. 75.21.98.62 (talk) 06:06, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
- By the way, I don't know how this will show but it seems I'm more than one IP... do you know anything about this ANobody? Clearly I am 75.21.98.62 (talk) 09:57, 18 May 2009 (UTC) and also am 75.21.116.175!!75.21.98.62 (talk) 09:57, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
- You probably have a dynamic IP. If you wish to be identified as one person rather than multiple IPs, I encourage you to get an account, which allows for some functions such as article creation that IPs do not have available. Best, --A Nobody 18:59, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
- By the way, I don't know how this will show but it seems I'm more than one IP... do you know anything about this ANobody? Clearly I am 75.21.98.62 (talk) 09:57, 18 May 2009 (UTC) and also am 75.21.116.175!!75.21.98.62 (talk) 09:57, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Shameless thankspam
FlyingToaster Barnstar
Hello A Nobody! Thank you so much for your support in my recent RfA, which passed with a tally of 126/32/5. I am truly humbled by the trust you placed in me, and will endeavor to live up to that trust. FlyingToaster
- You're welcome and congratulations! Good luck! Sincerely, --A Nobody 20:21, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
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- Thanks! Best, --A Nobody 20:20, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Courtesy notice
- User_talk:Fram#Barnstar_notice and Ikip (talk) 13:50, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
- Okay. Sincerely, --A Nobody 20:20, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Re: Question
Hi there! :) Sorry, but as I said in my AfD nomination for Anya/Anastasia (character), "character is not notable on her own" to warrant her own article. There seems to be very little that supports the character's Notability outside the film. The articles you cited seem to talk about the film, and not the character alone (they would actually be much more useful additions to the film article than a separate article about Anya). It's not really enough that the character has been included in several film-related merchandise; her notability as an individual character outside the original film - and the merchandise associated with the film - has to be established. Though I won't be withdrawing my nomination for deletion, I'm not opposed to merging the information from the sources you cited into the film article, as I believe it would really help improve the film article's quality. :) --SilentAria 06:04, 20 May 2009 (UTC)