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Barnstar of Persistance

Yep, I stuffed up. Didn't realise that your sig was at the bottom of the box. Apologies for the whole mess up. And i'm not an AIDS denialist, just someone trying to even up the balance of bias. Anyway, that doesn't matter, sorry again MrAnderson7 (talk) 22:20, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Unless there is a joke or relationship I am not aware of, it strikes me as extremely uncivil. I don't care if my signature was accidentally included, but I do take umbrage to bastardizing one of the few gestures we can use to acknowledge good works into an insult, irrespective of how WAID took it. WLU (t) (c) Misplaced Pages's rules:/_complex 22:41, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

You have made your point overtly clear and I'll take it on board for future reference.MrAnderson7 (talk) 03:45, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Parental alienation

You keep taking off valuable links scontent that meets of exceeds all standards for Misplaced Pages. You falsely claim that the content on the wesbite of the virutal library of the Canadian Children's Rights Council is a copyright violation. It isn't.

You have reduced the web page to nothing in a destructive manner.JaniceMT (talk) 18:39, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

The articles that are linked are from such sources as the Florida Bar Association , The Canadian Bar Association and a study by Nicholas Bala of Queen's university, a professor whose work has been cited 27 times by the Supreme Court of Canada.

The fact that they are part of the virtual library of the canadian Children's Rights Council is beside the point. Look at the content linked. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JaniceMT (talk • contribs) 18:47, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Please review Misplaced Pages:Convenience_link#Reliability and Misplaced Pages:Convenience_link#Arguments_against_convenience_links - CCRC regularly edits the storyies, highlighting "important" parts. It hits against all three reasons why particular convenience links should not be used. WLU (t) (c) Misplaced Pages's rules:/_complex 19:01, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm on to the 3RR.--Slp1 (talk) 19:44, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Strangely you objected to the list of Canadian court cases webpage which has both favourable and unfavourable cases. Why?

The 2 editors that you refer to obviusly have a slant in favourt of child abusers that perptrate this horrible form of child abuse know as parental alienation. So then , you 2 editors are dfamaging Misplaced Pages by using your very narrow point of view . Get a life! In any even the section on the Canadian Children's Rights Council on parental alienation is fabulous and gets thousands of visitors daily. It's the most visited website in Canada pertaining to child rights. So then, you condone this form of child abuse!67.204.42.122 (talk) 18:30, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

It is with great satisfaction that I finally get to tell someone to fuck off.

Fuck off. WLU (t) (c) Misplaced Pages's rules:/_complex 19:13, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Here here! Probably uncivil, but I don't blame you. I would say that suggesting someone condones child abuse is more uncivil than telling them to f... depart. Alan16 22:19, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

This entire set of puppets has such a poor grasp of policy, I wouldn't be surprised to see a rangeblock applied to the while set of IPs. Still, some good has come out of it. I've wanted the excuse to really, really tell someone to fuck off, and I finally got my chance. Huzzah! WLU (t) (c) Misplaced Pages's rules:/_complex 01:08, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Howdy, could use your help for a sec....

Hi, hope you are well. You put on my user page the hide templates on my welcome page section and esp. the graphics. But they aren't hidden like they should be. I've tried to figure out what the problem is but for the life of me I can't seem to get them to hide under the hide/show bar. Could you help me out? My user page is getting too long and I think some of the things like the welcome page, images, and even the essays could be more useful if they were in a hide box. Sorry I can't think of the proper terminolgy right now, rough night, no sleep. Anyways, if you have time and can help me out I'd appreciate it. I have problems with coding like a lot of what you did to my user page. I have learned a lot though from you working on my page so maybe if you fix it I can figure out why I couldn't. :( ;) Thanks, I'll be in touch. I figure I have two maybe three weeks left before I go on break. As always, take your time, --CrohnieGal 11:57, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi Crohnie,

The two boxes at the bottom? They're both hidden on my browser, but your barnstar box isn't capturing the Awesome Wikipedian barnstar (if that's not deliberate, you can fix it by moving the {{divhide}} text to the bottom of the section). Sometimes the browsers leave them open (something to do with the cache I think - try holding down control and clicking on the reload button if using internet explorer, or control-shift-R for Mozilla/Firefox). If you're really concerned, I would suggest moving some of the text or useful links to a sub-page, like your talk page archive. Aside from that, the page seems to be OK. The only other thing I can think of is adding |show = no to them, but I really think it's just an issue with your browser and not for most other people's. I'll try to remember to check on my other computer as well.

Speaking of talk page archives, you're up to archive 17 already, but only archive 1 is showing up on your talk page. I assume this is an oversight? The reason you've got so many is MiszaBot is set to create a new page after 60K, which isn't very much. I've got mine set to 250K, which is pretty standard I think. Means you don't have to create links to your archives manually every couple months. I can fix it if you'd like - both the size and the lack of links to each archive (or you could do it yourself, it's good practice!)

So in two-three weeks you're offline for a while? I'm assuming the lack of sleep is worry...keep me posted, via e-mail or talk page. I'll cross my fingers. WLU (t) (c) Misplaced Pages's rules:/_complex 13:20, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

I have to admit I am having trouble a bit following this. Where is the 'reload' button? I do use IE but can't find a anything saying reload, do you mean refresh + control? The Awesome was supposed to be with the rest of the barnstars so I'll take a look. As for the achives, it was set up for me long ago. I know how to adjust the days but no clue about anything else you are talking about. Sorry, pain, sleep dirtuptions, all of it, is making my brain into mush lately. I hope I am making a little sense. I'll try to email you with what is going on lately. But yes I figure two or three weeks before I am gone for whatever time is necessary. I have to admit I hate this part, the waiting, but I still come here to try to give me a break from RL, does that make sense? Thanks, --CrohnieGal 11:28, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

It's called "refresh" in IE, correct. Crtl-F5 might work too, I"m not sure. I'll adjust the archiving for you, shouldn't take more than a couple minutes, and I'll try to pop up some diffs and explanations. Pass along an e-mail when you've got the time (and concentration). WLU (t) (c) Misplaced Pages's rules:/_complex 12:28, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

In need of mentorship

Hi,

I saw your name over at WP:ADOPT.

I need the advice of an experienced Wikipedian.

I'm currently coordinating development of Misplaced Pages's Outline of knowledge, which has grown to around 500 pages, and I am having trouble recruiting editors to help build and improve it. I need some mentorship here.

I also need advice on the guidelines I've been writing for the Outline of Knowledge at User:The Transhumanist/Outline of knowledge. Is it good enough? Did I miss anything important?

My latest effort to recruit help on the outlines is a proposal for a contest between all of the country WikiProjects on Misplaced Pages (about 200 of them). (Each country has an outline devoted to it, and so I figured it falls within the scope of the corresponding WikiProjects). This will be a very big event, and I'm not sure I'm going about it in the best way.

So you see, I've taken on a lot, and I need as much advice as I can get.

I look forward to your reply on my talk page.

The Transhumanist    19:47, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Your editing of the parental alienation and parental alienation syndrome webpages is without foundation.

You should really leave these webpages alone unless you are aware of the issues. Numerous advisors to us are the authors of those scholarly papers that you keep taking off. These are vaild content forthose webpages.

Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. JaniceMT (talk) 20:27, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Accusations of breaking 3RR seem to becoming as viral as swine flu, <sneeze>. I'm being nosy again, but that is what boredom does. Nobody broke any rules... in fact, I can't guarantee that, but nobody broke that rule. Alan16 22:23, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Your misinformation provide in editing the Canadian Children's Rights Council

You know nothing about this organization but since you are apparently opposed to it and anything of a masculist or child rights nature You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution.

We know who you are, by the way.Smith research (talk) 21:47, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Oh... "We know who you are"... Sounds very dramatic. 3RR or not 3RR that is the question! Sorry. I'm being nosy and melodramatic again. One revert only. And Smith, you're the same. There is perhaps a little warring going on here, but it isn't repeated reverting. Exeunt. Alan16 22:17, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

I have made a report to WP:ANI about this edit. Thanks, Verbal chat 22:30, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

What when why? Alan16 22:38, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Here if you're still looking. Thanks for the report Verbal. CCRC IPs, for your interest some of the templates should be substituted. UW-3RR is one of them, as are most of the warnings. Incidentally, outing is taken quite seriously, so the CCRC basically just guaranteed a long, long block for themselves. Congratulations! WLU (t) (c) Misplaced Pages's rules:/_complex 01:12, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

You have repeatedly been advised that CCRC is not the Canadian Children's Rights Council. If you were involved with child rights in Canada, you would know this fact. Why do you keep trying to change the legal name to the english part of the legal name and the french translation? 67.204.33.204 (talk) 02:09, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Will it never end? It seems that we should do a checkuser request per Tim Vickers at ANI. Have you done one before? I haven't and the instructions looks somewhat mystifying. But I will struggle through if you haven't the time or the experience.--Slp1 (talk) 18:44, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

I think you might have made a sockpuppet inv. request rather than a checkuse request, as Tim advised. Should we try to move it to the checkuser pile do you think? --Slp1 (talk) 19:59, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Watchlist

Is this page on your watchlist? WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:32, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

You are fucking kidding me. "I don't know why I've got this weird topic ban"? "I'm on a voluntary revert restriction"? I'll be intrigued to see how long this will last. WLU (t) (c) Misplaced Pages's rules:/_complex 00:38, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

For the record: I don't appreciate foul language, and I'd hate to see you in trouble over an unfiltered expression of completely understandable shock.

Having said that: I share the sentiment. It's really quite surprising.

I think I've just found a good reason to never take banned users' pages off my watchlist; I only discovered this change because it turned up in my watchlist. As far as I can make out, there was no ArbCom-imposed ban in the first place, and an ANI review turned him down snowball-cold in March. So I'm a bit curious about the procedural end. Perhaps it was all handled in e-mail. It would be convenient if the page contained a big, red "push here to report" button. WhatamIdoing (talk) 00:59, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi WAID, I respect you very highly and will do my best to never use profanity when I'm on your talk page, but for my talk page it is a very useful safety valve for me (sorry). If I get in trouble over it, I'll take my lumps. The occasional rebuke will probably do wonders to keep my civility up. I would try just asking CHL, the good admins usually end up at arbcom and are pretty dedicated to an open process in my experience. I'll always be curious to see what sort of response it would have received if it had gone to ANI, but life is full of mystery. Besides, it's possible that time has brought wisdom and this time will be different. WLU (t) (c) Misplaced Pages's rules:/_complex 01:06, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Yup, it was all handled in e-mail -- perfectly understandable, since he couldn't edit even the user talk page. I'm generally well-disposed towards ArbCom, so if this makes them happy, then I'm willing to AGF... or at least to "trust, but verify." WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:07, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Probably stupid of me but I asked a question here: User talk:Cool Hand Luke#User:Guido den Broeder. Verbal chat 16:27, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

I think your question and concerns are perfectly valid, and your courtesy notice is neutral and conveys no opinions. I'd also stop there and post no more comments on his talk page unless you've got a content-specific concern to address. Guido, as he has in the past, is denying that there ever was a problem and that he was in any way culpable, so it's now arbcom's job to deal with it. I watch with interest. WLU (t) (c) Misplaced Pages's rules:/_complex 16:39, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

My talk page

Please do not mess with my talk pages. I will do there what I choose, and at this point I am choosing not to address your comments about the Canadian organization's article there. Look at that article's talk page for my responses in a little while. Thank you for respecting my wishes. • Freechild'sup? 11:40, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Also, please don't lecture me and cite tons of ridiculous WP guidelines as you here. Relax and enjoy your editing, and don't take this so seriously - that's one of the things that takes the joy out of WP for so many editors. • Freechild'sup? 11:45, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

I have never "messed" with your talk page. I noticed you archived my comments without a response. It is perfectly reasonable to wonder if this was by accident through a unfortunately-timed copy-paste move, and also reasonable to ask for clarification. I deliberately did so with extra civility on both occasions and consider your reply both rude and defensive, but more on that later. I also routinely offer unsolicited comments to editors on their editing and user page set-ups. Sometimes I learn something new, sometimes I pass along a bit of obscure information that I one day found useful (see here for instance). If you had a good reason for mixing the two, I would be keen to learn it simply out of the desire to improve my own editing.

Regarding your quite defensive reply to my posting, you refer my comment as containing "tons of ridiculous guidelines". First, WP:OWN is a policy, not a guideline. RS and SPAM are both guidelines, but that doesn't mean they get to be ignored when they result in an edit that doesn't suit your beliefs. My documentation of the naming issues cites both policy and guidelines, as well as the necessary sources to indicate why I think my point is well-supported (i.e. to indicate it's not just my opinion thrown about without backing).

And now my biggest issue with your comments here. Misplaced Pages is a wiki. This means anyone can edit. It is also among the highest-profile websites on the internet, and accordingly a huge magnet to both interested readers and POV-pushing soapboxing, self-promoting editors. The policies and guidelines which you so cavalierly dismiss are the only thing that allows editors to sort quality edits and contributions from drek, garbage, nonsense, deliberate but subtle vandalism, and outrageously unjustified bullshit pushed by those with an interest in the outcome. The reason I highlight the policies and guidelines on my talk and user page is because of their importance. I edit[REDACTED] because I love adding to the quality information that is available freely, I love learning new things and having somewhere to use them, and I am personally offended by people who would subvert the admirable, even beautiful ideals that[REDACTED] represents to foster their own personal beliefs or further their own personal agenda. Without the P&G, we're Anarchopedia, or no better than an advertising page. I will not "relax and enjoy my editing" if that means I ignore the outright lies, deliberate misrepresentations and willful blindness of editors who think of[REDACTED] as a public relations entity. The fact that people like me take their editing, sourcing and scrutiny seriously means[REDACTED] is acutally useful, truthful and honest rather than a steaming pile of bullshit. And the expansion of[REDACTED] to be a scholarly, useful, informative and current tool for readers is where the joy of[REDACTED] is for me. Since we're both handing out advice, I advise you to take your editing seriously, because it may one day result in saving someone's life because they use tamoxifen to treat breast cancer instead of vitamin C.

I am replying here to respect your wishes to not mess with your talk page. Note that your failure to respond to the issues I raised will result in me considering similar edits in the future to have no basis on the policies and guidelines and therefore open to removal or reverting. WLU (t) (c) Misplaced Pages's rules:/_complex 12:50, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks so much for your aggressive totalitarian feminist edits of the article about the Canadian Children's Rights Council

Your aggresive editing of the articles about the "Canadian Children's Rights Council", "parental alienation" and "parental alienation syndrome" have been fine examples of feminists'work. They have been provided proof of why the Canadian Children's Rights Council needs more funding to get our message across.

I was able to show your edits to 3 potential donors, all wealthy entrepreneurs, who are new funding sources for the CanadianCRC.

Keep up the good work! We need the money.

Sheila M. VP, The Canadian Children's Rights Council