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| The above statement inflation and deflation cannot occur simultaneously is not true at all. They can, indeed occur simultaneously. The commenter above is referring to “Economic” inflation and deflation not occurring simultaneously. I agree. However, the term ‘Biflation’ refers to “Price” inflation (not economic inflation) which can occur simultaneously. | *'''Keep''' - The above statement inflation and deflation cannot occur simultaneously is not true at all. They can, indeed occur simultaneously. The commenter above is referring to “Economic” inflation and deflation not occurring simultaneously. I agree. However, the term ‘Biflation’ refers to “Price” inflation (not economic inflation) which can occur simultaneously. Refer to an 2007 article by Professor Antal E. Fekete, Professor Fekete is a full Professor of Mathematics and Economics at the University of Newfoundland. He’s an expert on monetary economics and has served as a consultant to Paul Volker (Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank). In the article he states: | ||
| {{quote|What does it all mean? At minimum it means that we can have inflation cum deflation. I am not referring to stagflation. I refer to the seemingly impossible phenomenon that the money supply inflates and deflates at the same time. The miracle would occur through the devolution of money. This is Alf Field’s admirable phrase to describe the „good money is driven out by bad” syndrome. Electronic dollars driving out FR notes. The more electronic money is created by Helcopter Ben, the more FR notes will be hoarded by banks and financial institutions while passing along electronic dollars as fast as they can. Most disturbing of all is the fact that FR notes will be hoarded by the people, too. If banks | |||
| ⚫ | cannot trust one another, why should people trust the banks? Devolution is the revenge of fiat money on its creator, the government. The money supply will split up tectonically into two parts. One part will continue to inflate at an accelerating pace, but the | ||
| other will deflate. Try as it might, the Federal Reserve will not be able to print paper money in the usual denominations fast enough, especially since the demand for FR notes is global. Regardless of statistical figures showing that the global money supply is increasing at an unprecedented rate, the hand-to-hand money supply may well be shrinking as hoarding demand for FR notes becomes voracious. The economy will be starved of hand-to-hand money. Depression follows deflation as night follows day.}} | |||
| ⚫ | <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 15:01, 1 August 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | ||
| Refer to an 2007 article by Professor Antal E. Fekete “Can We Have Inflation and Deflation at the Same Time?” | |||
| ⚫ | *'''Keep''' - I have to agree with 209.107.217.23. There would seem to be a number of ghits with apparently sensible articles on the subject. ] ]] 15:18, 1 August 2009 (UTC) | ||
| http://www.professorfekete.com/articles%5CAEFCanWeHaveInflationAndDeflation.pdf | |||
| ⚫ | *'''Keep''' - The term "Biflation" has 1,260 hits on Google and is being discussed internationally. Why would you want to delete the term? - Karl <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 15:33, 1 August 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | ||
| Professor Fekete is a full Professor of Mathematics and Economics at the University of Newfoundland. He’s an expert on monetary economics and has served as a consultant to Paul Volker (Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank). | |||
| In the article he states: | |||
| Devolution | |||
| What does it all mean? At minimum it means that we can have inflation cum deflation. I am not | |||
| referring to stagflation. I refer to the seemingly impossible phenomenon that the money supply inflates | |||
| and deflates at the same time. The miracle would occur through the devolution of money. This is Alf | |||
| Field’s admirable phrase to describe the „good money is driven out by bad” syndrome. Electronic | |||
| dollars driving out FR notes. The more electronic money is created by Helcopter Ben, the more FR | |||
| notes will be hoarded by banks and financial institutions while passing along electronic dollars as fast | |||
| as they can. Most disturbing of all is the fact that FR notes will be hoarded by the people, too. If banks | |||
| cannot trust one another, why should people trust the banks? | |||
| Devolution is the revenge of fiat money on its creator, the government. The money supply will | |||
| ⚫ | split up tectonically into two parts. One part will continue to inflate at an accelerating pace, but the | ||
| other will deflate. Try as it might, the Federal Reserve will not be able to print paper money in the | |||
| usual denominations fast enough, especially since the demand for FR notes is global. Regardless of | |||
| statistical figures showing that the global money supply is increasing at an unprecedented rate, the | |||
| hand-to-hand money supply may well be shrinking as hoarding demand for FR notes becomes | |||
| voracious. The economy will be starved of hand-to-hand money. Depression follows deflation as night | |||
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| ⚫ | '''Keep''' |
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| ***** | |||
| ⚫ | The term "Biflation" has 1,260 hits on Google and is being discussed internationally. Why would you want to delete the term? - Karl <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 15:33, 1 August 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | ||
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patent nonsense. Article claims that biflation is simultaneous inflation and deflation. Inflation and deflation are both concepts which apply to the whole economy. The economy cannot inflate and deflate at the same time. Article says that some parts of the economy inflate while others deflate. This is a misuse of the terms "inflation" and "deflation". Some random refs do not add to the understanding. Jasy jatere (talk) 17:48, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
- Keep - The above statement inflation and deflation cannot occur simultaneously is not true at all. They can, indeed occur simultaneously. The commenter above is referring to “Economic” inflation and deflation not occurring simultaneously. I agree. However, the term ‘Biflation’ refers to “Price” inflation (not economic inflation) which can occur simultaneously. Refer to an 2007 article by Professor Antal E. Fekete, “Can We Have Inflation and Deflation at the Same Time?” Professor Fekete is a full Professor of Mathematics and Economics at the University of Newfoundland. He’s an expert on monetary economics and has served as a consultant to Paul Volker (Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank). In the article he states:
What does it all mean? At minimum it means that we can have inflation cum deflation. I am not referring to stagflation. I refer to the seemingly impossible phenomenon that the money supply inflates and deflates at the same time. The miracle would occur through the devolution of money. This is Alf Field’s admirable phrase to describe the „good money is driven out by bad” syndrome. Electronic dollars driving out FR notes. The more electronic money is created by Helcopter Ben, the more FR notes will be hoarded by banks and financial institutions while passing along electronic dollars as fast as they can. Most disturbing of all is the fact that FR notes will be hoarded by the people, too. If banks
cannot trust one another, why should people trust the banks? Devolution is the revenge of fiat money on its creator, the government. The money supply will split up tectonically into two parts. One part will continue to inflate at an accelerating pace, but the
other will deflate. Try as it might, the Federal Reserve will not be able to print paper money in the usual denominations fast enough, especially since the demand for FR notes is global. Regardless of statistical figures showing that the global money supply is increasing at an unprecedented rate, the hand-to-hand money supply may well be shrinking as hoarding demand for FR notes becomes voracious. The economy will be starved of hand-to-hand money. Depression follows deflation as night follows day.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.107.217.23 (talk) 15:01, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
- Keep - I have to agree with 209.107.217.23. There would seem to be a number of ghits with apparently sensible articles on the subject. Ben MacDui 15:18, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
- Keep - The term "Biflation" has 1,260 hits on Google and is being discussed internationally. Why would you want to delete the term? - Karl —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.107.217.23 (talk) 15:33, 1 August 2009 (UTC)