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WikiProject Films July 2009 Newsletter

The July 2009 issue of the Films WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. If you have an idea for improving the newsletter please leave a message on my talk page. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 01:22, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Images

I unfortunately couldn't attend Comic-Con this year, so I instead went through Flickr and looked at all of the CC images available that had not been uploaded yet. I think I found 12 images for various articles and that was one of them. No worries with the touchups, you've improved several that I've uploaded in the past. Usually, I just do a quick crop and upload it, just to get it on an article. I'll try and keep an eye out for a Gordon-Levitt image. I need to make an audit list of all of the celebrity images I need to look to replace or significant ones that are still missing. This article was quite the inspiration. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 06:41, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks those lists can be helpful. Images are always a side project to everything else on here, so I namely search for replacing really poor images or ones that are completely lacking an image. I've already got one contact that is planning on letting us use the images from an upcoming film festival in September. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 23:33, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Re: Fight Club redux

Anne Hathaway

I've reverted the addition of the photo, but I suggest you start an RfC or something because (s)he seems hellbent on the photo being included (gee...wonder why?). I thought there was some sort of policy regarding "civilians" being in photos...something about they should be cropped out if possible. Maybe I dreamed it. Either way, I don't see the point in removing a good photo for a self serving one. Also, thanks for the revert on Mae West. I was just thinking how nice it was that that particular debacle was over. I thunk too soon. Pinkadelica 07:39, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Nope, nothing ever is done here....just wishful thinking on my part. I've been ok, just puttering around the web and working on articles here and there. Pinkadelica 08:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Pink, and I don't know if there is a policy against including civilians - there should be. What is bothersome about this is that it removes a lovely, free image of Hathaway and discards it like it's a piece of trash (and god knows, lovely free images are not exactly thick on the ground,) and replaces it with an inferior vanity shot. I say vanity, because it seems to me that the main aim is to introduce the civvie and Hathaway is incidental. Why else use a lower quality image of Hathaway? Rossrs (talk) 08:25, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Well it's a bit of both. It's an ugly vanity picture. That's two reasons I don't like it.  ;-) Rossrs (talk) 08:33, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

I see the picture pusher got blocked for edit warring. Perhaps someone at Commons will just delete the damn thing as it's fairly useless here IMHO. Anyhoo, I haven't been checking my email much which explains why I haven't gotten any emails. Sorry 'bout that. It's hot as ever here, but I'm used to it. I do believe my transition to hell will be a smooth one :D. Oh, and no, I didn't mean to remove content regarding West's second marriage. I don't even think I manually removed it, but it's possible I did. I get the heebie jeebies every time I have to deal with that article. Pinkadelica 19:58, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Nope...just kept forgetting to count the cds I don't keep right in front of my face. Outta sight, outta mind. Pinkadelica 04:10, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

DWTA

I thought Wikilinking would be easier in terms of explaining, if you're interested, so... and I hope Ashton comments.

In order of appearance:

• Judges - Todd McKenney, Helen Richey and Mark Wilson
• Adam Brand (country singer) and Lincoln Lewis (heart-throbby actor)
• Kylie Gillies (TV presenter) and Layne Beachley (world champion surfer)
• Stefano Oliveri and Dannial Gosper (professional dancers, not currently notable enough for a WP article)
• Luke Jacobz - in disguise. Actor and last year's Dancing With the Stars winner.
• Matt White (TV presenter) and Fiona O'Loughlin (stand-up comedian)
• Jessica McNamee (actress) and Gerrard Gosens (Blind Paralympian and adventurer)
• Luda Kroitor and Jessica Raffa, (professional dancers, not currently notable enough for a WP article)
• Chong Lim, musical director
• Craig Monley and Carmello Pizzino (professional dancers, not currently notable enough for a WP article)
• Ash-Leigh Hunter and Jade Hatcher (professional dancers, not currently notable enough for a WP article)
• Mark Wilson
• Todd McKenney, Helen Richey
• All of the above
• Daniel MacPherson (cartwheeling actor and host)
• Sonia Kruger (naughtiest and most glorious woman on Australian television, and one of my nieces' schoolfriends)

I just watched it again, and I do love it. Nice to see that fun can be contagious. I think they nailed it!  :-) Rossrs (talk) 09:06, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

more funniness - click here and count the "Jessica"s. I found 8, and 1 "Jess". Rossrs (talk) 09:09, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Thorough maybe. It was pretty easy copying and pasting from the DWTS WP page, it was just getting it in order. I suspect the young lady's name is Jessica, although the article is a little vague on that point. I'm worried that if I start fixing articles for minor Australian TV performers I may well go insane. I'll keep it in mind for one day. Who knows ... the same soapie that Lincoln Lewis and Luke Jacobz star in, also brought us some rather well known performers, including at least one that you like. If Jessica (or Lincoln or Luke) heads in that direction, I'll be happy to fix her/their article/s. I wish them all well.  ;-) Rossrs (talk) 09:37, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Surely not

The one person in Hollywood who could choose anything as the next project, chooses this ?????? I'm perplexed. Rossrs (talk) 09:13, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Talk page

Re this, it may fall under WP:BLANKING since the actual block notice was left on the page. I don't think we have to worry overly much; the user is being watched closely.  Frank  |  talk  13:50, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Lizzie Borden and Elizabeth Montgomery

There is text discussing Borden and Montgomery in the Lizzie Borden article, but it is hidden. I don't know where the text is from, but since it was hidden, I un-hid it, since it introduces Montgomery who is discussed in more detail on the next line as being cousins with Borden. I thought it would make the Borden-Montgomery-cousins discussion flow better. Why did you hide it again? What is the purpose of text and information if it is hidden? Why not just delete the text if you don't want it in the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ow my brain! (talk • contribs) 14:19, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Re: Columbine High School massacre

Nope, I just did a history merge on the article to fix an old cut-and-paste move. Graham87 03:29, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Regarding unverifiable sources

I found lot of articles related to the 5 carat diamond, but was just unable to find a good reference. But can that be added and then wait for someone to cite the information?Ganesh J. Acharya (talk) 04:02, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Can this link be treated as authentic ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ganesh J. Acharya (talk • contribs) 04:05, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

I've got a good ref but the size is not mentioned. So, I will add the details of the massive diamond ring without the size for the while. :) Ganesh J. Acharya (talk) 04:09, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Actually, content should always be sourced, to a reference that meets WP:RS and WP:V. The lovetoknow.com website cannot be used, it is written by contributors, much like Misplaced Pages. The burden of sourcing falls to the person adding the content. This is even more crucial for articles that are designated featured or good articles, but it is important for all of them. The criteria for featured and good articles are even more exacting and I'm not entirely convinced that including a description of engagements rings would be considered encyclopedic and the only thing I can see that you could include in the Katie Holmes article about the ring itself would be the words "massive". The encyclopedic value of that would be challenged by editors who work on featured and good articles. Wildhartlivie (talk) 04:25, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

I will add the details of diamond ring as the information is available. Again I am researching the topic engagement rings for my personal research work, I thought of updating wiki with the same.Ganesh J. Acharya (talk) 04:45, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Kevin Spacey

Looking at the image, it looks kind of weird with his suit "invisible" at some points. It looks a little "space-y" (sorry, couldn't help myself). I'd say change it back, but it's not going to hurt my feelings. I'm only responsible for getting the images up here, not how they stay in the article. The headshot seems to work, and another free image can always be pursued down the line. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 05:54, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

When I looked at the image earlier today on my iPhone, it came out as all black (not the checkered pattern I see on the computer). The current headshot isn't zoomed in too much compared to some images, and it is likely that a new image will be found (especially with him having new films coming out). I was glad to get a new image (even though it's in 1978) for Rodney Dangerfield today, I've been searching for one for months (earlier I only got his tombstone). I was at a red-carpet premiere for G. I. Joe: Rise of the Cobra all day today, and although Stephen Sommers, Channing Tatum, and Marlon Wayans were there, I forgot to bring my camera. Hopefully some of the hundreds of other people there post them on Flickr. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 06:54, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

I forgot my camera in the car, and I was also worried about not getting into the theater to see the film. I've been to dozens of screenings and sometimes the guards won't let you in if you have a camera. I also was in a poor viewing position, so the images would have came out like some of the bad images that I'm always trying to replace. Gordon-Levitt wasn't there, but his role in the film was quite interesting. After hearing his voice in the film, I initially thought it was Justin Long. Fraser had a small cameo (probably two minutes) as some no-name Joe watching two other Joes training. As soon as his face appeared on screen, the audience all made this funny shriek. With Arnold Vosloo playing a role in the film, it was like The Mummy all over again! I was actually impressed with the film, and I would have paid money to see it. It of course had its problems (way too many flashbacks), but some of the action sequences were amazing. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 07:18, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Well, I didn't tell you the bad part. The ticket said the screening started at 4:00 pm, so usually you have to get there two hours early to ensure you get a seat. At 4, they told us that it actually started at 7:00, so we were in line for five hours to see this film! I think that's a record for me and hopefully I never break it again! I would actually enjoy seeing the King Tut exhibit, and I always like going to the zoo (to the annoyance of family members and friends). It's great having the large San Diego Zoo so close by. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 17:26, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

I've been fortunate to be able to travel to the majority of the U.S. and a few countries. I love traveling and would like to return to the East Coast and Europe again. I'm considering getting a life-long pass to the zoo here, since I plan to stay in this area for quite a while. I'd probably only do it if I could get a great deal on it. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 20:42, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Re: Ack!

I'll send you an email. momoricks 02:22, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

I just sent it. Hope you're having a good weekend. momoricks 23:00, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Scarlett and Sharon and Dawn and Kylie

Scarlett Johanssen looks very good, and you should be proud. I see that it's been saved as a GA, so good for you. You've done a lovely job, and I think you are fully entitled to mention it on your user page as an accomplishment. My eye was captured by a picture of Sharon Tate on the main page. It had escaped me that 40 years was approaching and, well, now it's here. There may be a spate of edits to Manson related articles, and I'm sure you've already anticipated this. The only one I closely watch is Sharon Tate's, and so far so good, but I'll keep an eye on the others as well. I'm still a bit concerned about Dawn Wells. I appreciate your comment and your edits, and removing the section header is a good move, but I'm not convinced we should even be discussing it. I'm still wading through the confusion that is Kylie Minogue, but I think I finally see light at the end of the tunnel. Rossrs (talk) 08:32, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

I guess we'll have to wait and see about Wells. I've reverted some stuff from Susan Atkins. It was kind of rambling, and unsourced although I think I've read something similar before. I wouldn't believe a word that came from Susan Atkins, and for it to be presented as fact, well it won't do. It's interesting that Squeaky is going to be released. I just wonder, what does a woman like Squeaky, who has been incarcerated for so long, do when she is released? Rossrs (talk) 13:33, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

BTW, I thought WP was not supposed to help people improve their vocabulary! Well, imagine my surprise! With the help of my trusty dictionary, I now know the word "prurience". I can't imagine ever using in a sentence, but if such a sentence ever comes up - I'm ready. Rossrs (talk) 13:36, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

August 2009

Please do not attack other editors, which you did here: User talk:Little Professor. If you continue, you will be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages. Little Professor (talk) 22:28, 9 August 2009 (UTC)