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Would you be willing stop back by the noticeboard discussion and consider reviewing the conclusion of the discussion there (with ample amounts of wp:agf and wp:civil)? You have a lot to contribute here, and I really don't want to see that interrupted unnecessarily. I really hope you'll consider the recommendations that have been made there, and act on them. Take care, user:J aka justen (talk) 16:04, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks J for the constructive comments at ANI. That discussion was rapped up pretty quick after, with no real attempt to address the issue I raised. Dealing with bad faith editors/Admins is a joke on the project. I do agree that when I do accuse an editor of bad faith I should provide diff's, and I normally do, but on ANI its a waste of time. --Domer48_'fenian' 18:40, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Coolacrease article

I just took a look at this, & noticed the second sentence (which seems to be fairly recent) in: "Following a dispute between the Pearsons and local Catholics over a mass path running through the Pearsons’ land, two IRA men, John Dillon and J. J. Horan, were arrested. However this dispute probably occurred a year earlier in 1920 and was already settled." The second sentence is based on Tom Wall's article in Dublin Review of Books: http://www.drb.ie/more_details/09-03-27/getting_them_out.aspx This article has been answered, including the date of the Dillon/Horan arrests which is in the public record. The arrests were in June 1921, the day after they'd intervened to restore order at the mass path. Though the Pearsons had been involved in sectarian provocation for a considerable period (which they were at pains later to play down), this critical incident at the mass path took place only a week or so before the roadblock shootings and the executions. Covered in reply to Wall: http://www.drb.ie/more_details/09-09-19/A_House_Built_on_Sand.aspx Also, there's another article there about the Coolacrease land grab theory: http://www.drb.ie/more_details/09-09-20/Frank_Gallagher_and_land_agitation.aspx Pat Muldowney (talk) 18:04, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

A chara, I've just finished the Coolacrease book and will use that to address the information you have noted above. --Domer48_'fenian' 09:12, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

...a mass path running through the Pearsons’ land - I doubt if this appeared in the original article, since it was one of the propaganda points to be debunked. Page 23 of the Coolacrease book reports it as a path on the boundary of farm in other words not interfering with crops, livestock etc. It's still there, visible to anyone who cares to inspect it, just as it was 90 years ago (I don't know how Misplaced Pages deals with actual physical realities, such as "the GPO is in O'Connell Street"!), a long narrow strip of wooded ground on the boundary between two landholdings. Just as the tree that was cut down for the roadblock was not "Pearsons' tree" (the excuse given for firing on "tree-fellers" or vandals) - it was a roadside tree at the point where Pearsons' adjoined Tom Horan's (page 37), who was a member of the roadblock party. (OK, OK, I'll try to get a life!) Pat Muldowney (talk) 13:29, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

LOL. The book was very well done! However how Misplaced Pages deals with actual realities. --Domer48_'fenian' 13:54, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Dr. Brian Murphy

Hi Domer. I think you misread the 'decision' on this issue. The dynamic IP managed to close the discussion themselves as 'not RS'. Just a heads up before things get sticky. Best. RashersTierney (talk) 12:05, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

On reflection I believe you are actually correct. These late nights not good for body or soul. RashersTierney (talk) 12:12, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

No worries! --Domer48_'fenian' 12:40, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

I just posted Elonka asking that the source be re-admitted. With my slow typing I hadn't noticed your edit at the Article. I have to go to 'No WikiLand' for at least a few days (Sick family member). I'll try to look in occasionally from the local library to see how things are going. Best. RashersTierney (talk) 15:16, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Civility

Domer48, the tone of this comment was not particularly helpful, and could be seen as uncivil. Since there is an ongoing dispute at Talk:Irish Bulletin, it is especially important that all editors strive to encourage a civil and collegial atmosphere for the discussion. So would you please consider deleting or modifying your comment, with this in mind? Thanks, --Elonka 16:26, 25 October 2009 (UTC)