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Thanks for the sources. And its no waste of energy Nableezy. You are a fine editor and what has happened is patently unfair. I'm sure that AGK, once he has some time to review the issue more deeply, will come to the right conclusion on his own, though and so I will leave it alone for now. I just had to say something initially because I was/am quite pissed about it actually. But I'm learning to control myself.

I'm going to quite busy in the next little while since some paid employment has come my way. So please feel free to work on the architecture subpage if it interests you. When I do have more time, I will finish it and put it up. Congrats, by the way, on the wonderful job you did on Al-Azhar Mosque and for its move into mainspace. Stay well, akhi. Tiamut 20:06, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

I´ll add my congratulations on the Al-Azhar Mosque -wonderful! Now, if I could lure you into more architecture-articles, then

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..are three Mamluk-architecture-articles, which I never seem to have enough time to work on... I would be delighted if you found time/interest to do so, Cheers, Huldra (talk) 22:00, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

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Sorry for this. Hope you stay. Mr Unsigned Anon (talk) 21:51, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Its my fault Nableezy. I keep forgetting that when well-intentioned contributors file complaints, nothing happens. When revert warriors who have contributed nothing file complaints, we get topic-banned, blocked, etc. Perhaps I should never file another complaint again? All it does is alert them to the process which they can successfully use and we cannot. How much Misplaced Pages reflects reality eh? No justice no peace. I think I may resign from this place once for all - much as I've resigned from life itself. Tiamut 08:25, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

PS. About an alt hook for the DYK nom ... *Alt3: ...that the revolt against Napoleon's occupation of Egypt was launched from al-Azhar Mosque (pictured) on October 21, 1798?

Sometimes Wstern readers will be more inclined to read things that mention someone they know. Tiamut 13:12, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Only you would remember, and twig to the fact. I was tempted to drop a note on the AE/1 page in your defence but refrained to keep my round figure of 13,000 clean, and knew, having checked the evidence in the arraigment and the background editing profile of those who accused you, that there was absolutely no way in the wide wide world that wikipedia's administration would apply any enforcement. It was a cut-and-dried 'dismiss'...

Just one more proof that you should never come to the encyclopedia's arbitration pages expecting rational principles, abetted by informed background knowledge of both the subject, and the respective editors' actual practices, to prevail.

Now that I have infringed my own rule, I'm suffering from pythagoreanesque intimations of instability that, as you note, tempt me to make 998 edits so I can restore the rounded numerical equilibrium of the big figure. Indeed, I could go to 20,000. But I won't, unless of course the I/P ruling is waived, which it won't be. Enjoy the break, Nab. I'll look forward to watching your work if you return in early March, roughly when Ashley K is due back, I hope not to be trapped into another spectacular immolation as 'new' editors roll profuse quantities of inflammable hay his way! Nishidani (talk) 17:12, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Well I knew things would fall apart without my presence. I saw my name mentioned in the AE and it is ironic because that was from the beginning of our discussion when you were the only editor there who was helpful and willing to listen to my concerns and compromise on the inclusion. I know I don't edit here these days but I hope you don't follow my lead. WP needs good editors. And it takes a good editor to get a barnstar in their topic ban section. --JGGardiner (talk) 07:44, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Al-Azhar Mosque

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Viva Italia?

I saw this story in the local paper and I thought you might want to read it before you do any travelling, since you have some time on your hands now. --JGGardiner (talk) 22:05, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

It would be pretty tough getting you any ganja here, Nab. The son of my niece's godparents (her mother lives next door), Stefano Cucchi, who lived just down the road from us in Rome, was caught with 20 grammes of hashish two weeks ago, and a few pills for his epilepsy, which the police mistook to be 'ecstasy'. The carabinieri are under investigation because within a few hours he was hospitalized with a face like a piece of pulp, contusions from head to toe, and fractures to the jaw and spine. He was hospitalized, and left to die by the staff, losing 6 kilos in three days. His last wish was for a Bible, denied. If this can happen in our 'Western' democracies, one can imagine what 'laws' tend to govern those that live outside of them, under occupation or besieged by an incomprehensible wars. In a familiar narrative, those who held him in detention say he was to blame for his own death, falling down stairs, and refusing life-support etc..

Now, to the paranoia! Did JGGardiner know this story? Was his hint part of a devious strategy to get you nabbed as a pothead while playing the tourist in Rome? Is he in cahoots with AGK to finish you off? Will this end up with you being seized, whoozy from dragging on a reefer, by CIA operatives, as was Abu Omar, to be whisked off to be tortured in some Egyptian form of Guantanamo, so you spill the beans about your terroristic behaviour on wikipedia? Come clean JGGardiner!

ps. 23 CIA operatives just got sentenced to 5 to 8 year prison terms for hijacking Abu Omar off the streets of Milan. Of course, this being Italy, the head of the Italian Intelligence Services and his functionaries got off scot-free.

That written, I think the effects of the weed I just inhaled are wearing off. It's a wet day. I'll have to think of something profitable to do to while away my hours under the drizzle, like figuring out if the abu-brais gecko can be found in Gaza. Nishidani (talk) 08:41, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Wow, that is terrible, though maybe it shouldn't be surprising. As far as "Egyptian form of Guantanamo", we just call it jail in Egypt; actually I think some of the people in Egyptian jails would much rather be in Guantanamo. I saw the Abu Omar story out here, but the spin was a bit different in the US, focusing on the career prospects of the Americans who can no longer freely travel to Europe without risking arrest. Such a travesty, the former CIA station chief will have to give up his chalet in the Alps. nableezy - 11:49, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

That's a horrible story. It reminds me of the Robert Dziekański saga that we have here in Vancouver. What terrbile creatures humans are. Sometimes I can't help but think about joining VHEMT. Although speakign of post-humanism, I must say that I've been pretty paranoid myself since I read Nick Bostrom's theory that I might be living inside of a computer simulation. It is pretty convincing actually.

But Nableezy is right, the Abu Omar story was not covered much in North America. Very little news can survive the trip across the oceans to North America. Most of what does is just about Japanese robots. Although we do hear about the occasional Italian sex scandal. A real red-blooded American would obviously be unaware of political happenings in Europe. So one must wonder what shadowy conduits Nableezy taps into to know these things. But Nableezy already lives in America. So I'm sure that American intelligence is already aware of him and wouldn't need my help if they wanted to cart him off somewhere to beat him and electro-shock his genitals. --JGGardiner (talk) 21:34, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

I should say that I know it isn't proper "wikiquette" to end a post on someone's talk page about their genitals being electro-shocked. So I feel bad about that but you kind of brought it on yourself, Nab. --JGGardiner (talk) 21:36, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Nab on his page above has posted a waiver on wikiquette obligations, so I don't think you need worry, JGG. As you say, the scoundrel brought it on himself, and the electro-shock suggestion is a reasonable prognostication if Nab can't learn to rein in his aggro round here. It's moderate. It falls short of Ariel Sharon's suggestion for a somewhat harsher measure with dealing with recalcitrant demonstrators with Nab's kind of sympathies and behaviour, available to the prurient reader of Thomas Baylis's, How Israel was won: a concise history of the Arab-Israeli conflict, Lexington Books, 1999, p.241, note 123! Cheers to you both. Nishidani (talk) 11:04, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Al-Azhar Mosque

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SoWhy 23:14, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Old age. Well, I've thought of another excuse. My contribution to the page was motivated by selfish unwikipedian impulses that don't deserve commendation. I jumped at your invitation in order to do a number of edits to bring my edit score to the round 13,000.

I'm glad you got the award, Nab. It makes up, if only symbolically, for the weird, actually quite normal, injustice you copped recentl, now compounded by the waiver of similar measures that should have, with more justice, been applied to a couple of your, and wikipedia's, antagonists.

The good news today is that at Castelbuono in Sicily, the mayor turned down a plan to buy trucks to pick up the city refuse, and bought 3 donkeys or asses to carry the rubbish off, passing from door to door, saving the municipality some 40,000 dollars a year. It works, though I gather if it were applied to Chicago, they'd either end up in the abattoirs, or be elected to the city council.Nishidani (talk) 16:03, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

And, by the time you are allowed back, Norman Finkelstein's forthcoming book on the war on Gaza will be out. It will be published on 27 December. It should make editing easier since it will be one of the first reliable secondary sources to become available. Best Nishidani (talk) 18:37, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately I suspect you are quite wrong about that being likely to make editing easier, Nishidani - as soon as Finkelstein's name even crops up in an article or on a talk page, about 80% of the active editors on I-P pages are driven to a state of blind fury and start huring the usual insults his way, while edit warring anything he says out of the article in question, even when attributed. His book will no doubt be a useful addition to the published record, but of course that's not of interest to most of the people editing in the area. Who needs books when you can get all your info direct from CAMERA or National Post op-eds? Oh well. --Nickhh (talk) 10:28, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

picture

Because the sourcing borders on ridiculous, and the copyright isn't valid. It was getting to be an eyesore after a while, when someone would put it up all over again. Feel free to upload a fresh picture, be it the same image, under non-free rationale for the English wiki. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.143.154.62 (talk) 14:36, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

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Al-Azhar Mosque

Hi nableezy. Thanks for your note. I'll take a look at Al-Azhar Mosque but I'm going away next week, so I'm not sure when I'll get a chance to review it carefully. — Malik Shabazz /_Stalk 04:22, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Can you email me

some of the stuff you obviously smoke to avoid the dull routine of sleeping, son? I've made my calculations. It must be around 4.30 am over there?Nishidani (talk) 11:17, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

sent, and thats just how the able-bodied though less able-minded celebrate a new dawn. nableezy - 11:25, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

You deserve a Caining for implying that you are less 'Abel-minded'.Nishidani (talk) 11:32, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Hey

Bullshitting is how I work. Actually editing articles is pretty damn boring. I suspect that you can only manage it with your performance enhancing substances. --JGGardiner (talk) 09:53, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

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Multiple violations of discretionary sanctions on I-P articles, with apology

You are violating your topic ban which includes (on both article and article talk pages) within those topic areas which relate to the Palestine-Israel articles case as per Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Palestine-Israel articles#Discretionary sanctions. I suggest you revert your edits on these pages. --Shuki (talk) 18:05, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Shuki, Nableezy's ban from talk pages has expired. It was for one month only, which is why edits to Talk:Bethlehem made in the last day are not at all problematic. (At Talk:Saliha he formatted the page a couple of days ago, is that a problem?) Are there other edits you feel violate his topic ban? If so, please provide diffs here first before making unsubstantiated accusations. Thanks. Tiamut 18:21, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Tiamut, for reference Shuki here is the adjustment of my topic ban to 2 months from all pages within subject areas relating to this arbitration case, except article talk pages, from which he is banned for 1 month. But thanks for the, I'm sure heartfelt, concern. nableezy - 18:32, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

That's great news to hear! Tiamut - WP:AGF, if you can. I suppose that Nableezy can now join the douchebags he so loathes. Just a general comment as Nableezy pointed out. --Shuki (talk) 19:05, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

I don't see anything in my comment that fails to AGF, though you are perhaps right to assume that with you, that might be difficult. In any case, thanks for your commentary and concern. PS. I've restored the proper heading for this sub-section per Nableey's changes. This is his talk page after all. Ciao. Tiamut 19:16, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Actually Shuki, the douchebags are the ones who dont contribute anything other than noticeboard and enforcement requests. So I wont be joining them. And I dont "loathe" them, I am only amused by them. nableezy - 19:20, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Tiamut, you want to go into details? You could have left your first comment with the opening lines but you failed AGF when you nonetheless accused me of making unsubstantiated accusations and when I had not been informed of the reduction in the topic ban. I don't think I have to remind you of WP:OWN which applies to talk pages as well. And if you did use AGF as you claim, you would understand that my edit to the title I used of the section 'I opened', is a retraction of the allegations, now shown to be unwarranted. I apologize to Nableezy for that. I guess I should follow your talk pages to read about these things. Note taken. --Shuki (talk) 19:29, 30 November 2009 (UTC)