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Melbourne, FL

I put the section back in, mainly because although a bit gaudy it was all true, and all seemed to be valid articles.

Perhaps get rid of the arrows, move to the back?

The Georgia Page

Actually, now that I think about it, I went to the Georgia page and went through the links of the major cities. When I went to each cities page I checked out there metro status and Macon came in third behind Atlanta and Augusta.

Dated cleanup tags

Hi, thanks for your message, SmackBot does not generally add tags, but merely dates those that are already there. Regards, Rich Farmbrough, 12:11 7 August 2007 (GMT).

Catholic Churches

You offered some comments last week about a proposed deletion of Incarnation Catholic Church and School (Glendale, California). You correctly noted that the article was rough, as it had just been started. I have been preparing articles on some of the significant parishes in Los Angeles and wondered if you'd have a few minutes to take a look and make suggestions on format, content, info boxes, etc. One of your notes indicated that the number of members was key data, and I agree, but do you know of any verifiable source to determine membership for Catholic parishes? Examples of the parishes I have so far created articles for are: St. Andrew's Catholic Church, Pasadena, St. Robert Bellarmine Catholic Church, St. Charles Borromeo Church (North Hollywood), and St. Finbar Catholic Church and School (Burbank, California).

Brandywine

Brandywine is a general disambiguation page (which Brandywine Creek and Brandywine River) point to.

I went through all the Brandywine references and updated them to point to the appropriate articles. There were and are many pages referring to either "Brandywine Creek" or "Brandywine River" and not necessarily pointing to the correct one.

"Brandywine River" can refer to: "Brandywine Creek (Christina River)" or "Brandywine Creek (Cuyahoga River)". or the fictional (Hobbit/Rings Trilogy) Middle Earth river.

"Brandywine Creek" refers to at least 25 different ones in the U.S.

(5) Brandywine in British Columbia, (2) Brandywine in Nova Scotia, and more outside of North America ...

Rivers are officially disambiguated by their downstream_parent, for instance Brandywine (Christina River), only when that fails, then a reasonable civil sub-division. See WikiProject Rivers for more details.

If you undo my updates, you are on your own...

Charles Adams

I am not particularly familiar with Vermont but I try to edit pages with correct links, sources, etc. Adams' page says the town so it has been fixed to that. Any correction to my corrections can be made. Thanks for the thanks!

Smyrna and Bodrum

Florida template

La Salle People

I compiled a long list of La Salle people in media and broadcasting. Why did you delete it? They are all public, relevant people - even if they aren't all listed on Misplaced Pages. 66.0.131.50 (talk) 22:43, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

No where in the article does it say "notable". The people listed are merely information related to the article - List of La Salle University people. Presumably, all information on Misplaced Pages needs to be notable, but not all of the information itself is notable enough to merit it's own page. Therefore, considering the aim of this article, it's perfectly reasonable to list individuals who do not have their own pages on Misplaced Pages (as long as they bring notablity to the article itself). 66.0.131.50 (talk) 17:04, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

A great number of the listed people you removed were television and radio journalists who are in the public spotlight in their regional areas. In addition, their names linked to their television station's bio. Those individuals, at the very least, should be allowed. Misplaced Pages has already acknowledged that regional TV personalities are notable in many, many cases. 24.214.53.191 (talk) 19:13, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Governors Towne Club

Thanks for your notice, I'm going ahead for an afd. All the google hits are in fact either promotional or non-notable regional news. De728631 (talk) 21:56, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Bishops sending stuff to India, 883

It might be that the "Bishop of Sherborne" bit should come out. The Chronicle entry for 883 says that Sighelm and Æþelstan went to Rome and to India (and þy ilcan geare laedde Sighelm and æþelstan þa ælmessan to Rome the ælfred cyning gehet þyder, and eac on Indea to Sancte Thome and to Sancte Bartholomeæ). It does not mention Sighelm's position nor Æthelstan's. Either one might have been a monk or a thegn or a soldier or anything.

I believe this is the only record of the journey (it does not even say they managed to get to India) but that there were later Mediaeval expansions of the legend, which might have added unreliable material, promoting Sighelm to be a bishop.

Howard Alexander (talk) 19:59, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Burlington Electric Department

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Query regarding User talk:75.151.43.138

Hello. Just curious, but why are you removing the section headers that are recommended at WP:UTM? — Kralizec! (talk) 22:02, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Soviet Union

Actually, you reverted the phrase I fixed back to "tore up" yourself for some reason, along with two other unrelated edits. To explain this further, the original Russian phrase is "разорвать соглашение" which literally means "to tear up agreement". The correct English translation of the verb in this case is "to dissolve". Evidently, someone tried to translate this from a Russian source lacking the knowledge of the proper connotation in one of the languages. There is no emotion or bias in this, just a translation error. --Illythr (talk) 23:38, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

I don't think "tore up" must be used. As I said, it is a translation error, which I corrected to "dissolved", thanks to you (see the diffs above). Then you reverted back to "tore up" (apparently, by mistake), and then complained about the phrase you reverted to being POV. :-) --Illythr (talk) 00:30, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

No problem, glad we could clear that one up *and* improve the article. Mutual understanding is a rare commodity nowadays. :-) --Illythr (talk) 13:16, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Problems with references

I went ahead and properly formatted the recent reference you added on Florida(for the housing costs thing), with a link to the article (it's available on the Sun Gazette site for now, and with the title, can be pulled up at a later date). Thanks for adding more than just a bare reference; I noticed that you added a section a couple of months ago (on Architecture) with bare links. As those links are now broken (Florida Today only keeps links active for 7 days before they disappear behind the pay firewall), there is no way to verify the information. We have no date of publication, no title, no page number, not even an author. Please don't add bare references. Horologium (talk) 02:17, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

St. Joseph Parish, Norwich

Continuation of discussion is on Misplaced Pages:Deletion review/Log/2009 October 15#St. Joseph Parish, Norwich. You need strong arguments --WlaKom (talk) 18:48, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

AfD on Euclid D. Farnham

An article that you may have an opinion on, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Euclid D. Farnham. This is not to solicit a vote either way, but I would value your input. Thank you. Mickmaguire (talk) 17:10, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Arlington streets

I definitely see where you got your information for the street mileage in Arlington. However, I thought you should know that the article Streets and highways of Arlington County, Virginia claims the mileage is 559 miles. This needs to be resolved. --Tim Sabin (talk) 17:14, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Anti-clericalism

Regarding the reference to the War in the Vendee in the Anticlericalism article, it is not the killing of the Republicans by the Vendeans which is considered the first modern genocide. Rather, it is the the massacre of the Vendeans by the Republicans. The text was unclear. I will clarify and add appropriate cites. Mamalujo (talk) 19:11, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Vote Re CC origins and historians differing POV's

Hello Student7, sorry to bother you but we are having a vote on the Catholic Church page regarding whether or not to include the dispute among historians regarding the Church origins. Can you please come an give us your vote so we can come to consensus? Vote is taking place here Thanks! NancyHeise 01:29, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Somalian Catholics

I appreciate your intervention in the article, Student7. A Somali moslem is adding data not needed, like about the Bantu used by the Italian colonists in plantations (but what has to do this fact with catholicism in Somalia?). Indeed, many moslem countries have the same small amount of catholic followers (or even less, like in the Arabian peninsula), but they are all worth to be included in an encyclopedia like ours. That is what makes worlwide renowned Misplaced Pages. Sincerely.--LittleTony (talk) 16:33, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Burlington edit series

I'm quite unsure what to make of this series of edits; would you check it out? Nyttend (talk) 03:03, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. I have a couple of questions: (1) Why do you think that college sports for a school in Burlington are inappropriate to mention at the city article? Many larger cities without major professional sports mention their college sports teams. (2) Is the Burlington/Plattsburg ferry the one you'd travel if you were coming east from Lake Placid? I went that way on a family vacation several years before I was in college (the worst part of our trip: the hot dog stand where we ate lunch took so long that we missed the ferry and had to wait hours for the next!), the only time I've been to Vermont. Nyttend (talk) 13:28, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Deletion review for Euclid D. Farnham

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Euclid D. Farnham. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Mickmaguire (talk) 17:52, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

USAA

Greetings. If you check the source of the IP address, 167.24.24.150, who's edits you reverted on USAA, it resolves to USAA itself. So they might need to be warned about {{COI}}. Cheers! --Nsaum75 (talk) 23:20, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

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Nsaum, I didn't do the revert but do have a reply to your COI remark: 1. Being from a company and editing the blog entry are not necessarily a COI 2. There are up to 2 thousand contractors in the USAA building, so a USAA IP address does not equal to an employee

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The changes from SSA to SA are correct, maybe not verifyable, but correct. Time will prove this to be true.

I understand that[REDACTED] has prioritized authentication over correctness/fact. All[REDACTED] readers and editors should be aware of this necessary flaw in wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.152.104.158 (talk) 15:50, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Irina Iordachescu

Hi! It seems you recently created an unreferenced biography of a living person: Irina Iordachescu. Our verifiability policy requires that all content be cited to a reliable source. Please add references as soon as possible. Thanks! --LaraBot (talk) 00:10, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

re your message

Thanks! I think it's great that Benet has an article here, and I hope that I will be able to improve it even more in the future. Benny the mascot (talk) 22:14, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Vermont Misplaced Pages page

Heads-up that I sent you an email RE: a Vermont Misplaced Pages page. RandomPrecisionMedia (talk) 15:46, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Winooski

Just curious why you think the dome thing needed to be pared back — in my mind, the city official's continue defense of the idea helps to explain why they were considering building it in the first place. Nyttend (talk) 05:18, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Arlington, Virginia

Hi, Student7. Just to let you know that I checked out the ref, and Maj. Hassan was, indeed, born in Arlington. --Tim Sabin (talk) 15:27, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Hugh Beringar

Hi, Student7! Regarding your addition of "deputy" to Sheriff Beringar's portrayal in the Cadfael movies: is he always portrayed as deputy sheriff in the movies? Because in the books he is promoted from deputy sheriff to acting sheriff in "Dead Man's Ransom"; he is later confirmed by King Stephen as the Sheriff of Shrewsbury, and that is his position for the rest of the series. --MelanieN (talk) 17:12, 17 November 2009 (UTC)MelanieN

The dark side

No, I don't go over to the dark side until April 1. Happy editing! Chris the speller (talk) 14:48, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

magdalene college

Upon showing interest to Magdalen College you are issued a rule book that contains some of the information I provided. If you become a student then yes, you are required to sign a contract agreeing to their standards Obriensg1 (talk) 00:07, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Pope Sixtus I

Actually, the Saints banner was incorporated into the Christianity banner. I would probably have incorporated the Vatican banner into Christianity as well, but some of the artworks and whatever that are in the Vatican have little if anything to do with Christianity, so I kept it separate. John Carter (talk) 17:54, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Listers

Thanks for the explanation; I reverted because the IP never changed "Lister" to "Listers", and changing to plural is a simple enough thing to do and see that I assumed that it was vandalism. If I remember rightly, there can easily be multiple selectmen, so I didn't see that as suspicious. Of course, if a source had been provided, I wouldn't have reverted. Nyttend (talk) 22:21, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

new bible verse references look nice. But

YOU WROTE:

The new bible verse references look nice. But, if I recall, the old ones used to appear on my screen when I scrolled over them. I have to actually select the new ones to read them. This is a drawback IMO.

— Student7 (talk) 7:37 pm, 19 November 2009

Which article? I'd like to look at it and see what you mean. Thanks. Afaprof01 (talk) 23:38, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

No problem at all. Thanks for letting me know. Afaprof01 (talk) 06:33, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Re: Indian Christianity

Hi! No. I'm a Brit; I have some sympathy with the religion; I know one Indian Catholic priest. That's the limit of my expertise. I came across the article while trawling WP:Uncategorized pages, and I though the WikiProject most concerned might want to get a look-in before I took it to AfD. Best wishes. Philip Trueman (talk) 14:19, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Can you help?

Hi, Student7! You have helped me with wikistuff before, I hope you can figure out what is going on with an article I follow. The article is Rockridge, Oakland, California. For some reason while I was editing a recent change, the "references tag needed" error flag appeared. It showed up when I previewed my changes before saving. I hadn't changed the existing tag, which was { { reflist } } (without the spaces, obviously) and neither had the previous editor, so I can't imagine why it was suddenly demanding a tag which had been there all along and was still there. I tried replacing the { { reflist } } tag with a < references / > tag, but it still wasn't happy. Changing back to { { reflist } } doesn't work either. I am baffled. Can you figure out what it wants? Thanks for any help! --MelanieN (talk) 16:49, 27 November 2009 (UTC)MelanieN

Never mind! Somebody fixed it. The problem was that I hadn't properly formatted a comment I added, and that messed up the references tag. --MelanieN (talk) 21:47, 27 November 2009 (UTC)MelanieN

I do that about once a month myself!  :) Student7 (talk) 23:11, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

AGF

Please assume good faith at Education in California.- Sinneed 16:18, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

(This from an editor who suggested that a section be deleted. I noticed his suggestion, agreed with him (it was subtle - I might not have caught it myself). So I deleted it. He reverted it! I complained on the talk page and thus this!) Student7 (talk) 16:24, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Florida water quality

Hi, Student7. I wanted you to know why I'm about to rvt your statement, newly added to Florida Department of Environmental Protection about half of Florida's waterways being rated as poor. As far as I know, the statement is true, and you have a reasonable ref for it. I'm reverting it because the DEP article is the wrong place for it. One could stretch things, I suppose, and add a section to the DEP article on "Important findings or decisions", but, really, this sort of information belongs in the state article or some article dealing with the state's environment or waters in general (if there is such an article). Tim Ross (talk) 13:36, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Template:USLargestMetros

Thanks for your edit to the template, I dont do much research on the San Diego Area so I did not get that, once again thanks! House1090 (talk) 00:45, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

I would be happy to help with any thing possible let me know. I hear that they will be creating a San Diego Task Force of wikiproject california. So if they do let me know so that I can sign up. House1090 (talk) 01:06, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Jacobite Syrian Church

The history always is written by victors. History is not objective but subjective. If a Syro Malabar Catholic write Indian Syrian Church history it will have a Catholic perspective, if a Syriac Orthodox Christian write it, it will have a catholic perspective. So I am against a template of common history for all the Syrian Churches in India. No Syrian Church in India agree on a thing in history other than the arrival of St. Thomas ;-D

So what I was planning to do was to write a history myself adding references later. Sorry for not commenting in the summary. I hope you understand.

-ܠܝܓܘ Liju ലിജു לג"ו (talk) 14:10, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Also an accurate study on the history of the church in India is impossible because there are not enough evidences on the pre-colonial years. Most even destroyed or set to file during the inquisition by Aleixo de Menezes. Even colonial writing are biased. Portugese say that the Catholic church ruled over Indian Syrians, but Protestant Claudius buchanan says that they were ruled by Antiochian Patriarch. -ܠܝܓܘ Liju ലിജു לג"ו (talk) 14:14, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Yeah thats a good idea to have both sides in the history, but the problem is that there more than 2 sides. The Syro Malabar church has one version, Syriac Orthodox Church has one, Indian Orthodox Church has one version, Chaldean Orthodox Church has one, So does Marthoma church

but lets try for a good common history. Hope it will happen. -ܠܝܓܘ Liju ലിജു לג"ו (talk) 07:19, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Its alright ;-D! -06:46, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Re: Mediation

Hello, Student7.

I've read your recent message, but I wonder whether I'm really the intended recipient.

If I am, then let me know and tell me why you think I might be of assistance.

Best wishes, SamEV (talk) 23:21, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I'm sorry I won't be able to help. My interaction with that editor was as limited as it gets. Time concerns would also prevent me from participating, besides.

I do suggest you ask an administrator to warn him—in case you haven't yet—before requesting mediation. Again, good luck to you. SamEV (talk) 01:38, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

December 2009

Thank you for making a report at Misplaced Pages:Administrator intervention against vandalism. Reporting and removing vandalism is vital to the functioning of Misplaced Pages and all users are encouraged to revert, warn against, and report vandalism. Your report was not a case of obvious vandalism, and as a result, the user has not been blocked and the request may have been removed from the page. Next time please use Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents for reporting a complex abuse or refer to Misplaced Pages:Resolving disputes if you have a dispute with the user. Thank you. Your report sounds better suited to ANI, report it there. Blueboy96 03:04, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Articles on Common History Saint Thomas Christians

I hope you remember about the discussions on common articles about Saint Thomas Christians. Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Indian Christianity#About the articles on Saint Thomas Christians common history

I have some time to work on this and hope you can help with this. Please suggest best way to do this. All the common articles has mis quotations and need complete revision.Pamparam (talk) 07:36, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestions. I will go here with what you suggested. Lets put the new format in Sandbox and evaluate sentence by sentence.Pamparam (talk) 05:14, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

I dont have any problems with Neduvelilmathew or some of the other old editors of all these articles. I know its difficult to arrive at consensus but the current state is very faulty. I have copies of many books referenced in these articles and can guarantee that the sources has been mis referenced not done by any one in particular but has just happened with all edits. Anyways we have waited for long for suggestions in common articles and we does can give time to evaluate this sentence by sentence. Pamparam (talk) 09:01, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Brattleboro, Vermont help

Would you please help me at Brattleboro, Vermont? A user keeps adding Brian Akey to the list of residents; I removed him because his article says nothing of it, so the user began adding Brattleboro — without any sources whatsoever — to his article. I've issued a warning to the editor, but I've hit 3RR, and I don't think this is significant enough that this falls under the BLP exemption from 3RR, so would you please intervene? Nyttend (talk) 03:26, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, after I left the note, I realised that you hadn't edited for some days, so I asked another New England editor, Jameslwoodward; he took care of it. Thanks for getting back to me; I had begun to wonder if you'd decided to leave Misplaced Pages for some reason. Nyttend (talk) 23:07, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Nazrani Evolution

Dear Student 7,

Hope you are following the discussion on File talk:Nazrani Evolution,jpg. It seems that Liju Jacob, Pamparam, and Rahuljohnson4u are quarrelling over the history of the Saint Thomas Christians. If they don’t read and study the references given, or study the official records written during that period on this subject, either they will go on quarelling or they will be able to come out with a new History for the Saint Thomas Christians, claiming that that one is the correct history. I doubt whether all articles that appear on the internet are true. .Neduvelilmathew (talk) 17:44, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

I have complete opposite opinion. Here what are the official records of 16th and 17th century ? Who has published those information ? Anglicans came only in the middle of 19th century and they are not any sources for prior periods when there are primary sources of 16th and 17th century exist. The only way is evaluate sentence by sentence for each statements.Pamparam (talk) 05:40, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Could you look at new article?

Hi, Student! If you have time would you please take a look at a new article I wrote, Old Town, San Diego, California, and see if you have any improvements or suggestions? I have nominated the article for a "Did you know..." and you can look at that nomination too if you like, it's at "articles created December 20." Thanks and have a great holiday! --MelanieN (talk) 15:04, 24 December 2009 (UTC)MelanieN

Thanks for adding the banners to the article. That's a process that is a total mystery to me.

About Did You Know, you ought to try it, it's simple - and they accept pretty much any nomination if it meets the criteria for length, citations, etc. It has to be a NEW artiicle, nominated within a week of being created or expanded x5. I don't know who does the checking and approving, presumably an administrator; there isn't usually much if any discussion. Anyone including the creator of the article can nominate. I found out about the process quite by accident when somebody nominated my article about Bejun Mehta. This one if accepted will be my third DYK!

Hope you have a very Merry Christmas! --MelanieN (talk) 17:06, 25 December 2009 (UTC)MelanieN

Category:St. Sebastian River, Florida

Hi Fred

I have proposed the deletion of Category:St. Sebastian River, Florida, which you created. Your input would be welcome in the discussion at Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2009 December 25#Category:St._Sebastian_River.2C_Florida. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:00, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

need a[REDACTED] guideline

I don't even know where to find it, but there is some[REDACTED] guideline that says you can't use one[REDACTED] article as the sole reference for another. Can you help? Tkech (talk) 09:53, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Re: Handling persistent vandal

Re your message: No problem. =) Though I just noticed that I missed a bit of anonymous vandalism on one of the articles that he edited. =\ -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 18:11, 27 December 2009 (UTC)