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At the current moment, I am in and out on the Misplaced Pages. If you have urgent need to contact me, please do so via email. Thank you. --AllyUnion (talk) 10:03, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

I also have a desk for any open tasks, such as bot requests and such. --AllyUnion (talk) 10:18, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I know Kakashi Bot is running fast. But it's a work horse that I don't like waiting around to change the number of pages it needs to change, so that's why it runs a bit fast.

New comments to the end of the page please. Otherwise, I will ignore and/or revert your edit. -- AllyUnion I have every right to blank out your comments because this is my User page. If you have a complaint about it, too bad... deal with it. -- AllyUnion

Furthermore, a note to administrators: My user page and user talk page is protected from page moves. We still have a page move vandal running amok, and I don't see why anyone other than myself would need to move my User page. -- AllyUnion (talk) 23:41, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

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Kurando-san and WikiProjects

This bot is adding the inactive template to projects which already have it, simply because they are still categorised in Category:WikiProjects, due to a prior consensus that they should be dual categorised so as to make them more readily viewable. Whether that consensus is correct or not is another matter, but there it is. Steve block talk 16:29, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

You do realize that keeping them in Category:WikiProjects means that the bot has to traverse additional pages it doesn't need to? Furthermore, it's just unnecessary clutter. --AllyUnion (talk) 09:30, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

I'm not arguing the rights and wrongs of that consensus, I wasn't even party to the consensus, I'm just pointing it out. People felt it wasn't unnecessary clutter, but that the projects were more readily viewable and likely to be restarted if they were dual categorised, and that it would prevent creating duplicate projects. I'm not sure people were aware of the bot at that time, perhaps the bot hadn't been set up for that task back then. Maybe if the bot was set up to check if they were already labelled with template:inactive, that would solve the problem? Steve block talk 09:36, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

You do realize that there are several ways to write {{inactive}} that I would have to check for correct? This doesn't count any template that has been made a redirect to {{inactive}}. --AllyUnion (talk) 10:25, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Edit summaries

I've started going through the list of admins to see if the active/inactive can be updated and wound up noticing instead who is and who is not using edit summaries (cause it sort of sticks out). Just to let you know, you're use of summaries is practically not there (though you are commenting on User pages a lot where it feels less necessary). Anyhow, just a thought on contributions. Marskell 00:18, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Okay, and you're telling me because you feel that I'm inactive or active or what? --AllyUnion (talk) 09:32, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

No, you're obviously very active! As I said, I started out thinking I'd update the semi-active and inactive lists and got diverted toward edit summaries. My thinking is that edit summaries are becoming more of an important criterion on RfA and if we are going to evaluate potential admins on this basis it's only fair to expect it of established admins. Of course, I'm only at A on the main list and probably won't have the energy to make it through 600... Marskell 13:57, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Sandbot reverted my edit

What is wrong with the link I added? Sandbot has removed it. CiaPan 07:25, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

In attempt to keep the template stable, the sandbot uses several key pages to achieve this effect. --AllyUnion (talk) 14:18, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

Another bot

Hi, I'm not around much these days, so can't follow up on that bot. However I'd like another simple bot which will substitute my template signatures. ie. it will hunt down {{user:Nichalp/sg}} and convert it to {{subst:user:Nichalp/sg}} . I've seen a bot already do this. User:Nichalp/sg 06:41, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Try using replace.py in pywikipedia. --AllyUnion (talk) 22:07, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Revert bot

Hi, I was wondering how possible is a "revert bot" which I can use to revert entier contribution of a user or anon. Usefull against vandal bots which take too much time to revert. --Cool Cat 21:53, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Uh... not very likely. --AllyUnion (talk) 22:07, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Featured Picture

Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted Your nomination for featured picture status, Image:Booby chick.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates. ~~~~

Thank you for finding one of the cutest featured pictures I've ever seen! Raven4x4x 12:02, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

NotificationBot: Target finish date

AllyUnion, I'm not trying to rush you or anything, but would you mind providing an approximate timetable of when the NotificationBot is going to be back up? (i.e. one day, one week, one month...) Thanks a lot. Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | W_S 02:18, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I don't think you should rely on NotificationBot. I do this on my free time, but currently it is on my lower end of priorities. --AllyUnion (talk) 12:34, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Please, no more!

Hi AllyUnion. Please can you stop adding more articles to the list on the AfD. Why not just say "all articles about individual cricket matches"? As it is, the page is going to become unnecessarily massive. If you want a comprehensive list, could you not place it there, where it is causing ridiculous numbers of changes to my watchlist. Much obliged! ] 15:30, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

The list is now nearly 50kb - why is it necessary to do this? ] 16:41, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

I hope I have your attention now. Please don't move the list back. It is patantly disruptive. ] 17:56, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

On the same topic, can I ask why in the world you felt the need to renominate these articles, when this has been discussed before? Even if the topic is worth discussing again, at least do it properly, not stating that all the articles are merely short stub paragraphs, and then including in the list not only short paragraphs on minor games, but long descriptions of some of the most memorable Test Matches of recent times. JPD (talk) 16:18, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Look, I randomed one stubbish cricket article, and I thought, wow, why is this here? It had no AFD record, and I don't particular take part in AFD anymore, so how should I've known there was a prior discussion? Then I found the whole large category of them. And I saw that many of them were just like the first one I randomed. --AllyUnion (talk) 22:38, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Regarding your rather high-speed, high-rate edits to Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Cricket matches articles, please indicate whether this is human editing or a bot.

If the former, please remember WP:POINT and consider taking a break for now. If the latter - well, you of all people should know the rules - so stop it.

Thanks. Rob Church 18:03, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Your fingers must be really, really tired. - brenneman 23:43, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for blocking me, Robchurch. It forced the blocking of all my other bots. --AllyUnion (talk) 02:41, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for writing the bot and merging the content. There's one little problem, though - the reason why the articles were transcluded in the first place was because the content appeared on four pages, not one. As a result, the three other pages have now been turned into, effectively, a MASSIVE page with the content on 8-30 April repeated about fifty-odd times. So don't click Frizzell_County_Championship_Division_One_in_2005, since it'll just hang there forever. So I've really got two options: Reconstruct the pages from the list of subarticles under each tournament's page - or ask you kindly to revert the changes, so that I can merge in the content using subst, and then run the bot again (without the merge of 8-30 April). Your call. Sam Vimes 14:59, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

The Atlas Award

The Atlas Award For Raking the Sandbox Clean may be awarded to those who have gone above and beyond the call of duty in fishing disgusting and unwanted items from the Misplaced Pages sandbox. "The sandbox is not a litterbox"

Althugh its an automated bot doing the task, it most certanly isnt easy to code it. You should have been given this ages ago, but because you are doing such a fine job no one is watching the sandbox and hence perhaps not appriciating your fine work --Cool Cat 23:17, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Re: Atlas award

Someone already gave me one, but thanks for another one. Actually, the python program is quite shorter than expected. --AllyUnion (talk) 23:19, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Well, shorter code implies a more pro programmer... ;) --Cool Cat 10:43, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Cricket merge bot broken

Hello, AllyUnion. Your cricket merge bot failed to merge the individual articles into the various tournaments and various team pages, so the pages for each tournament and team are now broken. (See for example Cheltenham & Gloucester Trophy in 2005). Please mend them. Thank you. Stephen Turner 15:06, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

%#!!!#^%#^$^@^#@%@$%%#!% ... *sigh*. --AllyUnion (talk) 21:52, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Is it fixed now? --AllyUnion (talk) 00:17, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Yep. Thanks for the help, hope I won't bother you too much in the future! Sam Vimes 07:43, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

User-Agent

Please set the User-Agent header for your bot to something descriptive. -- Tim Starling 02:09, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

sandbot (weatherbot)

Would it be possible for you to add to sandbot (or some other regularly-run bot) the unconditional deletion of the weather in London? Misplaced Pages:How to edit a page uses this title as an example of a red link but of course it keeps getting created. -- RHaworth 17:02, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

See response at: Misplaced Pages talk:Bots. --AllyUnion (talk) 01:04, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Signature

Copy the following into User:AllyUnion/monobook.js:

/////////////////////////////////
// Signature fix.
function sigFix () {
document.getElementById("toolbar").innerHTML=document.getElementById("toolbar").innerHTML.replace('--~~' + '~~','--] ] • {{subst' + ':CURRENTYEAR}}-{{subst' + ':CURRENTMONTH}}-{{subst' + ':CURRENTDAY}} {{subst' + ':CURRENTTIME}}');
}
function reformatMyPage() {
  sigFix();
}
if (window.addEventListener) window.addEventListener("load",reformatMyPage,false);
else if (window.attachEvent) window.attachEvent("onload",reformatMyPage);
/////////////////////////////////

Then, after saving the page, press CTRL and F5 at the same time to reload the file. Now whenever you sign something, click the signature button at the top of the edit box, and it will automatically be pasted into the edit box. — BRIAN0918 • 2005-11-13 14:01

Are you to tell me that I'm suppose to parse a date because you want to be special? Yeesh. Are you the only one? (I say this because I'm a lazy programmer, and rather take to the idea of leaving code alone when it properly works.) --AllyUnion (talk) 14:03, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

No, the person I got it from got it from someone else. I know of at least 2 or 3 others that use this, probably more. — BRIAN0918 • 2005-11-13 14:04

Is that the only format I have to look for? Are there people signing a format other than your YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM format? I don't like to play guess the format... --AllyUnion (talk) 14:08, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

I don't think so. — BRIAN0918 • 2005-11-13 14:10

Thanks

Because of my wikibreak I didn't notice this until reading back on my talk page history. Anyway I saw that Nekodaemon now does excellent work for {{categoryredirect}}, so thank you for implementing that! Yours, Radiant_>|< 15:10, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

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What the hell is wrong with you? why did you block me again? Unless you are a total idiot (which I don't think you are) you should know that blocking my bot would block me as well, I have explained what is going on, and am in discussion with Noisy. Blocking isnt a "punishment" for when you unilaterally think someone has done something wrong, you are treating me like a vandal. You had absolutely no reason to block me again, I had not reactivated my bot, not that I wasnt within my rights to. I am really shocked at your behaviour. I really don't dont how you expect to explain this. Martin 16:24, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Did you just block me again? OMG Martin 16:24, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Hhhmm, on closer inspection you only blocked my bot once (well twice, but a few minutes apart), Nandesuka blocked it later, but the autoblock message when I tried to edit a page definately said it was you that blocked me, must be page caching or something. Oh well, sorry for the above, I take it all back, if you have ever been blocked you know how it feels! sorry and thanks Martin 16:53, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

My bot is still blocked, Nandesuka doesn't like the idea of me unblocking it myself and doesnt want to get involed, please can you unblock it when you get this, I won't do any bot work that Noisy disagrees with until we have come to some agreement, I do however want to do some re-categorisation. Thanks. Martin 17:20, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Ok someone else has unblocked it now. For clarification; I was given the impression that you blocked me again about 2 hours after you did to start, I assume my browser must have cached the old page saying "you were blocked by AllyUnion...." or something, and it seemed a little unfair, anyway, sorry for wasting space on your user page. Martin 18:09, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

User:Bluebot block (that's a mouthfull)

I removed the block on bluebot. Martin agreed to stop it from doing 1911 changes and Noisy agreed that was his only concern. I took it to be that was your only worry about the situation. I would have contacted you first, but there was some escalation regarding self unblocking between Martin and User:Nandesuka. I felt that it was best for everyone involved if I just removed the block to calm the situation. Didn't want you to think I was being impolite :) --best, kevin ···Kzollman | Talk··· 18:12, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Baltic Entente

The border disputes between Poland and Lithunia were one of a very small number of issues that were explicitly excluded from the Entente Treaty. (i.e. Lithuania retained the authority to have its own policy on this issue rather than having a shared policy with the other countries). Whilst these were a failure of the Entente in a technical sense (if the Baltics had a true single defence policy then they would have a single voice on this issue too) it is not the reason why they failed to retain their independence from Germany and the Soviets (which was the ultimate aim of the Entente).

The fact should be included in a longer version of the article, but in a stub it was a misleading detail. Hope that helps. Pcb21| Pete 08:42, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Cricket matches articles

Hi AllyUnion,

I have closed the above-mentioned VFD, but would like your bot to do the removing of the VFD notices and add the oldafdfull notice...It'll take ages for me to do this by hand!

- Best regards, Mailer Diablo 09:58, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

I'll just remove the AFD notice... --AllyUnion (talk) 10:21, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Cricket articles

2005 English cricket season

I have listed a series of redirects that start with "2005 English cricket season/" here: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Cricket#Redirects_that_need_fixing. Do you want a bot to go and remove the pages linking to them, then mark them for speedy deletion? --AllyUnion (talk) 18:18, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Yes please, much appreciated. If you could turn Yorkshire v Worcestershire 7-10 September 2005 and similar pages to redirects as well, that'd be lovely - the list is here. Sam Vimes 18:43, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Redirects to... where? --AllyUnion (talk) 07:20, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Either the home team's page, or the period pages (1-14 June and so on). Whichever is easiest to program Sam Vimes 08:05, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Regarding date standardization

The WikiProject seems to be inconsistent in the naming of its dates... well, but then again, so is the rest of Misplaced Pages... But as a project, some kind of consistancy naming should be picked. Ian has pointed out that dates listed like South African cricket season (1888) is non-preferred... meaning that 2005 English cricket season (1-14 June) would likely be non-preferred as well. Seeing as you are picking how to name your categories in regards to a date range, shouldn't some naming consistency be address? --AllyUnion (talk) 18:18, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Admittedly this is "dates" instead of "years", but that's splitting hairs. I'm definitely opposed to making it 1-14 June 2005 English cricket season - that's patently nonsensical, since a season lasts much longer than 14 days. I think the current name signifies that the the 1-14 June pages are extensions of the 2005 English cricket season page in itself, which is just a short season wrap-up for people who need that. I wouldn't object terribly to 2005 English cricket season from 1 to 14 June 2005, though... Sam Vimes 18:43, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Suggestion for AfD bot work

Quick suggestion - when your bot closes the daily Articles_for_Deletion/Log page, could you also have it update the date at Misplaced Pages:Articles_for_deletion#How_to_list_pages_for_deletion? I'm referring to the part that says "this edit link." Thanks. | Keithlaw (talk) (contribs) 00:39, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Um... that's already done automatically by the server. That is set by the server clock, which is based in the UTC timezone. --AllyUnion (talk) 07:19, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Well, there's a lag between those the two events. Twice in the last three days, I've tagged an article for deletion and found that the link on the AfD page itself sent me to the Log that just closed. Anyway, thanks for the reply. | Keithlaw (talk) (contribs) 14:24, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

The new day link is added 7-8 minutes before midnight of UTC. The log itself is closed around 1 minute after midnight of UTC. Are you telling me that for whatever reason, when you click that link past 00:00 UTC, that it still a day behind? --AllyUnion (talk) 21:39, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Next time it happens, I'll write down the times. I believe that yes, I was past 00:00 UTC and still was directed to the old page - as I recall, each time it happened, the new day's log already had 10+ entries on it. It seems odd that I'd hit that 8-9 minute window twice in three days, but I guess it's possible. Thanks. | Keithlaw 21:42, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Transcluding article namespace

Please refrain from transcluding the article namespace. The article namespace is not be to used for this purpose, and it creates the illusion that the Misplaced Pages has more articles than it does. Furthermore, the articles you create and leave behind in the article namespace creates a virtual paper trail that is difficult to follow. --AllyUnion (talk) 08:56, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, AllyUnion but I do not know what "transcluding" means. What is exactly wrong with the articles that I create. Can you please give an example? Thank you Template:DaGizza/Sg 10:55, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Of the process of transclusion. Basically, you created the article Bangladesh v India 26 December 2004 and transclused the article on to List of major upsets in One Day cricket by placing the text as {{:Bangladesh v India 26 December 2004}}. This method is frown upon. --AllyUnion (talk) 20:27, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Also, as a result, someone would be more inclined to nominate Bangladesh v India 26 December 2004 for deletion because they would believe it's an article that serves no purpose. --AllyUnion (talk) 20:39, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Argh... how many more of these are there?!?!?

I just ran into... Bangladesh v India 26 December 2004. This was found on List of major upsets in One Day cricket. Can you tell me how many more are there? --AllyUnion (talk) 08:57, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

As far as I know, that's the only one. Sam Vimes 11:10, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Redirects

Thank you so very much :) Have a bunch of grapes for your leg-work. Sam Vimes 21:47, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Date polls ...

Greetings! I hope you're well. Thanks for adminstering the date polls and for your updates. However, I think the current poll is far less functional than its predecessor: the prior poll provided options for users to choose from, hopefully allowing a clear consensus to form or be identified. Instead, the current poll has too many options for voters to choose from, possibly causing confusion and an ambiguous result.

Don't get me wrong, I'd like to participate, but the current poll seems very unwieldy and I wanted to inform you of my concerns. Thoughts? In any event, thanks again! E Pluribus Anthony 03:39, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Hello again! I found the prior poll much clearer. Perhaps both can be pruned somehow? E Pluribus Anthony 03:47, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

As I mentioned, I was rather fine with the prior poll. And it's your baby: nurse it back to health! I cannot guarantee a speedy turnaround currently, but will help if I can. E Pluribus Anthony 04:09, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

DYK bot

Hi, is there any chance you will have the DYK bot up and running in the forseebale future? We're getting quite a backlog of stuff that needs archiving. Thanks.--nixie 12:38, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Hmm... a lot of stuff has been moved around to the point I don't know what the archive order is anymore. --AllyUnion (talk) 22:47, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

I haven't moved any of the bots stuff (as far as I know), but there are several editors that work on the page. This is what was there in September (check it edit mode)

• Archive

Suggestions that have appeared on Template:Did you know are automatically archived at Misplaced Pages:Recent additions by one of AllyUnion's bots.

All older items have been archived at Misplaced Pages:Recent additions. --nixie 23:34, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Blueballs...err..Bluebot at it again

Hello, I'm having an editing conflict with Bluebot and its creator 1. I noticed from Misplaced Pages talk:Bots, that you have also had issues with them recently. Blueboy, seems to think there is a concensus on style where none has really been reached. I also find his attitude unhelpful and his interpretations of the MoS rigid (as in Meta:Don't be a dick rigid). Please look into the matter, as you seem to be both level-headed and Wiki-Mighty in all things bot. If Iam truly in the wrong here, I will stand down. Thanks for your time and attention, --R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine) 12:28, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Hi AU, note the above user is not referring to anything to do with the previous dispute, but because I subst:'ed a template on a page, which has been agreed on here and has been mentioned on the bots page, he now seems to accept that the subst: is ok. I think he initially didn't understand what subst:'ing was, as he originally termned it vandalism. Martin 16:59, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Based on the history diff of one article he complained about, Order of Battle of the Waterloo Campaign and what template it is subst:, (Prettytable? Seems awlfully stupid), I'm inclined to agree that his complaint was rather invalid and that your bot was operating how it should be. By the way, I would mention in passing that your bot is operating according to the guideline at Misplaced Pages:Template substitution on your bot page. Being highly descriptive on your bot page prevents confusion when someone goes to find how what your bot does, which I still think your bot page is rather vague. --AllyUnion (talk) 17:05, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

OK, I'll do that before I do anymore bot work, I did link to the subst: page in the edit summary, but it can't hurt to make it more obvious. Martin 17:14, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Bot to create French administrative division info

Hi, I've created a page for the bot. Dlyons493 Talk 00:39, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

Kakashi Bot

Am I correct in assuming that one can request jobs to be done by your bot here? I'm currently trying to orphan Image:Flag of Czech Republic.svg and replace it with Image:Flag of the Czech Republic, but the amount of pages it is used in (especially English, French, Spanish wikipedias) is enormous... File:Austria flag large.png ナイトスタリオン ✉ 20:01, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

I don't understand the difference between the two. --AllyUnion (talk) 23:34, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

For countries/regions with the terms "Republic" or "Islands" in their short name, correct grammar is "Flag of the Czech Republic", not "Flag of Czech Republic". Image names are expected to follow the same naming rules as article, AFAIK, so this grammar mistake should be corrected, and it'll be much easier with a bot. Furthermore, I've managed to upload basically all the national flags in svg format, and those should replace the earlier png versions, so the bot could be put to further use... Sorry if I'm getting on your nerves, but your bot seemed to be available for tasks. File:Austria flag large.png ナイトスタリオン ✉ 00:04, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Done. At least for English pages. --AllyUnion (talk) 06:42, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! Could you do the same for Image:Flag of Peoples Republic of China.svg, replacing it with Image:Flag of China.svg? Thanks! ナイトスタリオン ✉ 20:44, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Never mind the above, then... Please replace:

• Image:Flag of Taiwan.svg → Image:Flag of the Republic of China.svg
• Image:Flag of China.svg and Image:Flag of Peoples Republic of China.svg → Image:Flag of the People's Republic of China.svg

Thanks! ナイトスタリオン ✉ 11:03, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Done. Any remaining links should be checked over manually. --AllyUnion (talk) 20:45, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! ナイトスタリオン ✉ 07:04, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Standstill

Hi, AllyUnion. Discussion on this award at WP:BAP has been at a standstill for almost two months. Since you were previously involved in the decision-making, please consider reviving the discussion. If no attempts are made within a week, it will be archived. Thanks, Sango123 (talk) 15:09, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Bureaucrat interest?

Hi. I think we need about 30 more bureaucrats, and I think you'd make a good one. It is my understanding that RfB is a self-nom process, so I urge you to consider throwing your proverbial hat into the proverbial ring. Cheers! BDAbramson T 19:45, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

I will give it some thought. --AllyUnion (talk) 19:59, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

FPC

I don't know if you have been paying attention but there has been some discussion on FPC here about deleting the discussion period in favor of the new peer review page (and other misc. changes). I would like your input because I don't know if you would have to modify your bot (we could just comment out the section and it would never bother with it) or perhaps you have somthing to add to the discussion. I 'm waiting for a few more FPC regulars to comments before making the changes . Broken S 22:43, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Recent additions

I don't see the point of archiving the articles that have appeared on DYK anyway. I think a template on the talk page would be a better way to keep track of the articles that have appeared on the template in the last 3 months, purged monthly.--nixie 00:41, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

It's to prevent the same fact from re-appearing. --AllyUnion (talk) 00:48, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

I can't see how one would reappear given that only new articles are suppposed to appear on the template.--nixie 01:06, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

There are many new articles. Plus all the facts are interesting. --AllyUnion (talk) 01:41, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

My bad, I figured archiving was part of DYK procedure(since it basically said so there), I didn't know a bot did it all. You sound stressed, let me lend you my pet bear, he eats stress. We need you for all your useful bots that help the project.karmafist 01:28, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

It is, but the thing is that I'm trying to fix a mess... left by improper archiving. --AllyUnion (talk) 01:41, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Tell you what then, i'll let you do it from now on. Serves me right for trying to do the right thing. karmafist 18:43, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, I wasn't necessarily pointing fingers at you. --AllyUnion (talk) 07:25, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Recent additions highly visible page

I am begging you to stop archiving the information

Hey, AllyUnion, you only need to ask me once :) I haven't touched this page in about a week. It was in pretty bad shape then and had not been archived in a long time, no images. How long has your bot been broken?

Anyway, this page is linked from the main page, so I have a request; can we please be extra carefull to format it nicely, include the images and keep its archiving up to date? If the bot's not working I'm more than happy to do it manually. But, again, it is a highly visible page, linked from the manipage, and we should keep it looking nice. --Duk 03:32, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

I will try to get some kind of parser written... --AllyUnion (talk) 03:36, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

I left some comments at Misplaced Pages talk:Did you know regarding this. --Duk 20:33, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Double redirect bot

I'm confused about "Kakashi Bot". Is he a working bot to fix double redirects automatically without human intervention? Does such a thing exist? If so, can you point me to its source code so that I may download and run it on my own Wiki installation, where double redirects are starting to become a problem? Thanks a lot. --Cyde 01:36, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

No intervention, but it's based on an SQL query list that doesn't seem to work all that well. --AllyUnion (talk) 07:24, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

AFD bot

I noticed that you have an AFD bot that automatically puts the entire contents of articles listed for AFD in to a subsection of your user page. This is very useful I am sure. But who uses it? And why isn't such a thing maintained on an official site somewhere? Zordrac (talk) Wishy Washy Darwikinian Eventualist 19:04, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

1) I don't know who uses it. 2) It has been traditionally placed there. The previous user before me also placed it under a subpage of his userspace. --AllyUnion (talk) 07:25, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Huh? The previous user before you? Do you mean that there was another AllyUnion before you? Zordrac (talk) Wishy Washy Darwikinian Eventualist 09:51, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Anthony DiPierro ran a bot to update a similar listing at User:Anthony DiPierro/Current VfD, and I just took over the job. --AllyUnion (talk) 09:15, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for repeating it on my user page. I had read it here already, and understood it. Thanks again. Zordrac (talk) Wishy Washy Darwikinian Eventualist 11:51, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Kurando-san

Here's something I've never seen happen before; the nominator has included a date in the description of Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates/Felix the Cat and the bot has picked this up as the nomination date. That's something I never thought could happen, and I'll have to post a message somewhere warning people not to put any dates above the nomination date. Perhaps it would be best if the nomination pages had a line directly below the title saying "Nominated 5th December 2005" or something like that, above the description. Would the bot pick this up correctly? Is there a way to include the current time in the code, because that would be perfect and it would solve problems like this. Raven4x4x 03:25, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Read the bot's userpage, here. If you notice on the notes section of the page below, it has indicated that it will indeed work. The logical reasoning behind this is that I can not base the nomination on the history, as I do not reliably know which edit in the history indicates the date in which it was first nominated. --AllyUnion (talk) 09:33, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

By the way, no matter what the date is, it will always read the first "readable" date. Unfortunately, it was the May 15 date. You could, just add:

<!-- ~~~~~ -->

to the template code, and it will fix all the problems... except Brian0918... who finds that he needs to be special and write his date in a format different from everyone else. --AllyUnion (talk) 09:46, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for that, it never occured to me to just hide the date in the code like that. It seems so obvious now... :) Thanks again. Raven4x4x 09:51, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Category: color -> colour_colour-2005-12-07T15:18:00.000Z">

Hope I have the right place. Did I miss a discussion of a change from colour to color? The color article is regularly messed up and reverted to color, so I'm surprised to see this happening...? Notinasnaid 15:18, 7 December 2005 (UTC)_colour"> _colour">

Why are you doing it anyway?? Georgia guy 21:12, 7 December 2005 (UTC)_colour"> _colour">

Please understand, this was abuse from user 130.159.254.2 (talk · contribs) who added the template notification at the top of the page, which, forced NekoDaemon to make changes. --AllyUnion (talk) 09:09, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Please see this and continue the discussion in WP:CFD. Thanks. --AllyUnion (talk) 09:16, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Wikifun

Hi, I've noticed you've taken part in Wikifun before.

Just to let you know, Round 11 begins today at 0900 GMT. Dmn 04:29, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

AFD bot change

Since all closed RFA's have the subs:at/subs:ab text, can you make your bot reckognize those and mark AFD's as closed so I dont have to keep finding that RFA's are closed by opening them. Thank you.Voice of All 05:44, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

That is on my to do list. But at the current moment, I'm very busy trying to earn a buck for a living, plus my computer is not functioning properly. Therefore I can not help at this time. But it is something I will do in the near future. --AllyUnion (talk) 09:17, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

bot request

Hi! I wonder if my bot request was granted after I created the user page or do I need to do anything else? I have now tested the code offline and it seams to do its thing, I will be busy during Christmas and New Year but would like to have permission to start testing online if I get any time over. See wikipedia talk:bots#Shark articles unifying bot Stefan 10:10, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Problem with Template:Afd2

The template Afd2 currently has 2 equal signs on each side (== ==) instead of three, and the WP:AFD is set up so the date is a 2-equal-sign headline and the individual article discussions have 3 equal signs. There were 3 equal signs several days ago, so could you change it back? (It's protected.) --King of Hearts 05:45, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Um, as far as I am aware, it is still three equal signs. --AllyUnion (talk) 09:21, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

No, see for yourself: Template:Afd2. Here's an example of what happens:

Some Weird Article

This is nonsense.

The following is the text I typed in:

{{subst:afd2| pg = Some Weird Article | text = This is nonsense.}}

--King of Hearts 01:44, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

So it's working, never mind then. --King of Hearts 01:46, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

RE: Image:BobbyFischer.jpg

NotificationBot, please go to Image:BobbyFischer.jpg. I've added the URL to that page. Adnghiem501 04:22, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Afd/Old

I noticed there's no link whatsoever from main Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion page too Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Old. I wanted to link it from Old discussions header but I'm afraid it would screw up the bot somehow. Can you add the link in that place?  Grue  17:11, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for letting me know (to update it anyway). --AllyUnion (talk) 11:40, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Sandbot

Some trouble with the template:

• New interwiki at tr:Vikipedi:Deneme tahtası
• "About the Sandbox" and "Editing tutorial" are being linked twice
• Template could use a link to Misplaced Pages:Introduction

Thanks! Ashibaka tock 23:56, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Done. Email me if you want to make the changes yourself or any adjustments. --AllyUnion (talk) 11:48, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Dumbass article

Hi! I put in some reasons why the dumbass article should be unprotected on the talk page. Thanks! BlueGoose 08:04, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

See comments on Talk:Dumbass. --AllyUnion (talk) 11:52, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

FPC bot problem again

Today Kurando-san performed a strange move on Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates/Lille Marsh. It was moved from third from the top of the main section (see here) to the very bottom of the section (here), but not into the older than 14 days section. Why on Earth would the bot do this all of a sudden? Raven4x4x 05:07, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

The nomination date was apparently changed. See --AllyUnion (talk) 11:38, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

But the date was changed to a later date. Surely this would mean the bot would move it up, not down? Raven4x4x 13:18, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't know why it did that. But if happens again, let me know. --AllyUnion (talk) 23:16, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

redirected categories

Hi - I noticed that NekoDaemon is meant to move contents from categories in Category:Misplaced Pages category redirects. I've been doing some WP:CFD cleanup and thought I'd let ND do some moving rather than doing it manually (or asking Beland or Who to do it with their bots). The claim at the category redirect page is that ND patrols "hourly". Does this mean ND examines each redirected category once an hour, or that it wakes up and does some amount of work every hour? I added the redirect template to Category:U.S._history_images about 24 hours ago and the articles aren't moved yet. Just curious. -- Rick Block (talk) 18:31, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

And, while we're at it, what would you think about adding category deletion as well? WhoBot and Pearle are typically used for both moves and deletes, but if there were an equivalent to template:categoryredirect for categories to be deleted, deleting a category (after discussion at CFD of course) could be semi-automated by adding the category to a "to be deleted" category patrolled by ND in much the same way as Category:Misplaced Pages category redirects. -- Rick Block (talk) 19:45, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

The first problem is fixed. As for your suggestion, I'd rather get some kind of community consensus before preceeding. --AllyUnion (talk) 23:17, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

I've talked to Beland about this a bit as well (see user talk:Beland). I'll start a page on this somewhere, directly solicit input from folks I know might be interested (you, Beland, Who, Kdbank71, K1Bond007 to start with), and put pointers to it on VPP, CFD, and the requested bots page. Anyone else likely to be directly interested, or anyplace else I should post a notice? -- Rick Block (talk) 15:41, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Please see Misplaced Pages:Categories for deletion/cleanup. Still sort of drafty, but I suspect you'll get the general drift. -- Rick Block (talk) 04:32, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Comments section in FPC

Can you please enlighten me as to why the 2 day nomination section has been removed from FPC? - Mgm| 09:11, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Consensus was formed on the talk page, and no one particularly opposed the idea. Furthermore, there is picture peer review now... --AllyUnion (talk) 11:25, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

United States vs American Television Networks Categories

The category clearly states that Category:American television networks should redirect to Category:United States television networks but the bot seems to be doing the opposite.

Confused. Hope this works out. -- Hinotori 00:09, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

The bot is functioning normally. A user attempted to rename Category:United States television networks and Category:United States radio networks without bringing the matter to WP:CFD. I swapped the tags to reverse the process. The same user also performed a copy-and-paste move of List of United States cable and satellite television networks to List of American cable and satellite television networks, the latter of which was speedily deleted. I intend to nominate the two new categories for deletion after the bot has finished emptying Category:American radio networks. —Lifeisunfair 03:53, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks so much for clarifying that for me. :)

-- Hinotori 03:59, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

RfB?

I believe we need more bureaucrats, and I believe you'd make a fine one. BDAbramson T 23:14, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for your gracious support, but I'm afraid I will have to decline until I have more time on my hands to handle the responsibilities of a bureaucrat. --AllyUnion (talk) 12:37, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!!

Sandbot broken

Looks like Sandbot crashed. — Alex 03:35, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for alerting me. I think I have fixed whatever problem it was causing. --AllyUnion (talk) 09:15, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Anytime :-) — Alex 09:40, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Can you please help me?

Hi I am going through and fixing bad Wikisource links left from the language split. I have been doing this by hand off a search for Wikisource. So far I have looked at 700 of the over 4,000 results from that search and I now have a good idea where I will find errors. Is there any you can pull out a list of all the instance where WP links to WS without a template? The most common ways these links are setup is ], ], , and If I could have listing all these links and so I could just test them out and only look up the article when I find a bad link, it would be great as these bad links are really causing extra work at WS. Or if you have any suggestions as how I could do this without looking through 4,000 articles individually I would appreciate it. Cryptic suggested I ask you as you have a toolserver account.--BirgitteSB 15:46, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

1) I can run a query for you off the toolserver, but it would help me greatly if you had the query in mind; 2) Which database are you talking about? (English Misplaced Pages?) 3) Can you be more specific? I don't fully understand the context in which you are asking me to look up and for what reason. --AllyUnion (talk) 08:34, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Sorry here is the long explanation. All the links that went to WS before the language split worked fine. After language split the links now go to the wrong place. One example is if you look at the History of Henry David Thoreau. Several of his works were linked to on WS and when the language split happened the works moved but the links stayed pointing to old wikisource. Another common problem using the interwikimedia link which once linked to works at the old wikisource, now links by default to English WS. You would be surprised how many instances there were of someone links to a non-English work on the old WS from the English WP. So the real problem is that now when editors from WP follow the lost links they see that the page does not exist and there is the standard prompt to "Create this page." Well they are repeatedly. I have seen 16 deleted edits and rarely have I followed these lost links to see less than 3 deleted edits. Almost every day at English WS it seems we have a work added that we can't read by an anomynous user we can't contact. I imagine it is just as tedious at the old WS, which still host some languages like gaellic, to have english works repeatedly added to their site. For my use I was hoping you could query the English WP, altough I imagine the problem exists elsewhere. If you look at my Contribs you see how am fixing these links, but you can't see all the pages containing the WS templates and other uses of the word "wikisource" I had look through hunting for these errors. If I can't find the right place to correctly link to I am deleting the link, but with cut and paste I feel I have done pretty well finding even Chinese! pages. Thanks for reading all this if you have more qusetions I can probably put together some links of what is happening--BirgitteSB 18:46, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

If you to take the time to look at my contributions the past two days? I have going through the {{wikisource}} links because it also has alot of errors. So you might to look a bit further back for the examples I was writing about above.--BirgitteSB 18:55, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Okay, if I understand correctly, there are new namespaces at the Wikisource. And Wikisource is now segmented into different languages. You want a query of any text that has the word "wikisource" in it. Gotcha. --AllyUnion (talk) 19:59, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Not exactly I have been working off a search of simply wikisource, but I was hoping you could help with a more subtle query. Most of the errors occur in following 4 ways of linking to wikisource: ], ], , and . I was hoping to get a query on these particular uses of wikisource if it is possible. A query on just wikisource would also includes all the templates and 3 out of the 4 templates rarely have errors. See Wikisource segmented into different languages back in August, so there are a good deal of correct links as well. As far I know no one has attempted to make these fixes systimatically until now. When did I search on just wikisource I got over 4,000 results and I have gone through about 700 of them. I really don't know what toolserver accounts can or what the results would look like. I just was hoping there is a better/quicker way to go about this. Thanks for any advise you can give me.--BirgitteSB 20:50, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Hmm... I'll have to think about it. It's essentially four different queries unioned together. --AllyUnion (talk) 01:17, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

I'll do one query as you requested, and another query to search for anything currently using the {{wikisource}} template. They will be placed at User:BirgitteSB/Query1 and User:BirgitteSB/Query2 --AllyUnion (talk) 03:26, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Um, unfortunately, those queries are really out of date. And not necessarily correct. The toolserver, at the moment, doesn't have the space to run full text queries. --AllyUnion (talk) 10:20, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

DYK bots

Hi, this is with reference to Talk Page Converter and Talk Page Converter (backup). I have just tried the first one and it seems to be good in terms of obliterating need for some grunt work. However, a couple of fixes need to be made. Firstly, the image name is getting into a separate line just below the line it is supposed to come in (I want it to come immediately one space after the "?"). Secondly, I want the image name to be displayed e.g. if the input is ], the output is "Dunmore Pineapple." Based on the prevalent practice on DYK archival, the output should be (]). With these two minor fixes, I'd reckon that it wd reduce half the workload in archiving. Could you let me know if it is possible? --Gurubrahma 16:40, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

It is, but I'm a bit busy with other things at the moment. I can't tell you when I will be able to try to correct it. --AllyUnion (talk) 08:36, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

AFD Bot

AFD Bot's moving the wrong day on WP:AFD. —Cryptic (talk) 17:48, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Bot is operating correctly. See then see . Someone moved the 21st back up to the top. The bot keeps a 6 day listing, because historically, after 6 days, then it's considered old. It should not be a 7 day listing. --AllyUnion (talk) 19:49, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

where is a AFD Bot source?

I want to use it. how can i get it? --WonYong 23:36, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Before I can give you the source, I have to understand what you wish to use it for, and whether you understand Python or not. --AllyUnion (talk) 08:25, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Fixing the old watchlist-VFD problem

One of the big objections to splitting vfd into separate subpages per day back when was that, if you want an entry to show up on your watchlist whenever a new article is listed, you have to watch a gazillion daily pages in advance instead of just watching Misplaced Pages:Votes for deletion. CFD has the same problem, and so would the recent proposed overhaul of TFD (which has multiple other problems, but never mind that). It occurred to me today that this might be fixable by, instead of creating each daily page from scratch, to instead create Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Log/Seed, and, every day just before midnight, move that to Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Log/2005 December 31 or such before editing it into the standard format as is currently done. Watches follow page moves, so users who want to permanently watchlist AFD need only watch the seed page; users who only want to watch given daily pages can just watch those pages, as is currently done. Thoughts? —Cryptic (talk) 05:04, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

The problem is that you'll end up with users with, after a long period of time, an extensive number of pages in their watchlist which is not necessarily the easiest to remove. While I think it is a good idea, there is no feature currently in the Python Misplaced Pages Bot Framework that has a move feature, which means I'd would have to end up programming one from scratch. --AllyUnion (talk) 08:29, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

AFD Bot

I think your AFD Bot is running slightly off time. Just a few minutes ago, at only 23:53, it auto-updated AFD instead of at 0:00. -- King of Hearts | (talk) 23:57, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

That's intentional. There are several scripts that the bot operates at the same time, and I don't want the server to block any of the bot's requests so I intentionally update the AFD page first. So for about 7 minutes, the page is redlinked. --AllyUnion (talk) 08:23, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Bot

Just to let you know, your bot User:NekoDaemon has violated the WP:3RR on pedophilia. // paroxysm (n) 06:10, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

That feature of NekoDaemon bot has now been disabled until I upgrade to include a security feature. All concerns regarding the change should be directed at: Darwinek for he was the one who used the {{categoryredirect}} template. --AllyUnion (talk) 08:09, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Re: {{Categoryredirect}}

Perhaps it was out of mistake. I'm curious to know where is it stated to be, and why is it restricted to sysop use only? Thanks. — Instantnood 11:44, 1 January 2006 (UTC)