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Always remember - first assume good faith...

Misplaced Pages is meant to be a work in progress; there are no deadlines here...

and...Jimbo is watching you!

Movie suggestion for the month: If you haven't seen The Night Listener with Robin Williams, you should - definitely fascinating at several levels. Toni Collette is superb in her role as a emotionally disturbed and extremely manipulative woman who utilizes at least two other identities and personalities at once without anyone ever actually laying eyes on the other personalities or the real 'her' (even though they have come to believe the other personalities actually exist as real people). Based on a true story, the film is a real mind bender that leaves you wondering, "who is she, really?"

The hows-and-whys of this talk page

Because this is my own user talk page, I have certain rules and standards as to how I like to maintain it.

(1) Comments made by me are non-italicized

(2) Comments made by others are italicized

(3) If there is a Misplaced Pages issue I am currently involved in, I prefer to keep tabs on the situation by including information surrounding the issue as content on this page for future and present reference (as necessary). This may mean the inclusion of Misplaced Pages exchanges between others involved in the issue at hand. After the issue is resolved, I will archive the information.

(4) IT IS NOT THE RIGHT OF ANOTHER WIKIPEDIAN TO TAKE IT UPON THEMSELVES TO REMOVE CONTENT FROM, OR CHANGE CONTENT ON, MY TALK PAGE (not to mention it's against Misplaced Pages policy). If you have a problem with something I have placed on my talk page regarding the issue I (or we) may be involved in, please assume good faith first and then discuss the matter with me before jumping to conclusions and making erroneous and/or bad faith assumptions.

(5) While I may remove content placed on this page that originates from exchanges elsewhere, I will never edit what someone what written in order to change the tone of what was written or to make someone look bad. Again, if you have an issue with what I have included here (or have not included), please assume good faith first and then discuss the matter with me before jumping to conclusions and making erroneous and/or bad faith assumptions.

(6) It is my intent to keep my talk page organized, orderly and in compliance with Misplaced Pages standards regarding user talk pages. This means that I reserve the right to include what I choose - so long as it complies with Misplaced Pages standards - and will, in the same vein, remove what I choose.

(7) Anything added to this talk page by another editor that is not in regard to an article being edited or is outside the guildelines for user talk pages will be seen as disruptive editing and the appropriate steps will be taken within Misplaced Pages guidelines - including issuing warnings as appropriate and in line with Misplaced Pages standards.

(8) Last, but not least, don't even think of vandalizing this page. Any vandalism will be reverted immediately and get you reported to the Vandalism Crew. Additionally, doing so will jeopardize your Misplaced Pages account and may get you banned from posting - so don't even try, okay?

Thanks for your understanding - may your Misplaced Pages edits be correct, well-referenced and relevant and may you have a great Misplaced Pages day!

Barnstar

		The Photographer's Barnstar
		For Concrete, Washington. - Omarcheeseboro (talk) 18:09, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Wow - a Photographer's Barnstar! (what's a "Photographer's Barnstar"? ;-) Just kidding - thanks, Omar! SkagitRiverQueen (talk) 18:19, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks.. I checked out the page after seeing the film of the Tobias Wolff book This Boy's Life. I guess I drove right by there too, since I went from Seattle through the N Cascades last year (via Marblemount). I'm glad to see you like the style of my userpage too :) Anyway, great photos! --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 12:04, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Userboxes

As a double finally, in answer to your question on my talk page, I didn't create the user boxes in my sandbox, rather, I put those there as reference in case I later decided to use them, and so I could reference their text should I decide to make a new user box.

The best way to make your own user box is to find one you like and edit it. This is what I did to make the KGO and Mac boxes on my page.

Regarding images, they're uploaded to Misplaced Pages and referenced via the Image tag. If you go to the Mac box, for example, and edit the page, you'll see how the image is included within the user box. There's also a helpful article on how to make user boxes at WP:UB. -FeralDruid (talk) 05:41, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. If I have any more questions, can I impose upon you again? SkagitRiverQueen (talk) 15:14, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Mantle décor

		The Press Barnstar
		SkagitRiverQueen – for diligently correcting press accounts, not to mention Misplaced Pages's "biography of a living person" for Glenn Beck, with concern to the place of Mr. Beck's birth, which WP edit was mentioned (link's here!) by Julie Muhlstein of The (Everett, Washington) Herald on October second, two thousand nine (and for splendid editing all around on the article otherwise, too!) — Justmeherenow 14:52, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, JustMeHereNow for The Press Barnstar. Personally, I've found editing the GB article somewhat amusing in light of all the discussion - as well as frustrating in light of some of the arguing (and comments by a couple of the editors ;-) You, however, I have found to be a calm in the storm; a lonely beacon of restraint in a squall of self-appointed wordsmiths! You, sir, are a gentleman and stellar Wikipedian! I am honored, and frankly, you made my day! SkagitRiverQueen (talk) 15:11, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

As you did mine, SkagitRiverQueen, with your graciousness. ;^) Thanks! ↜Just M E here , now 15:34, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Random comment

Gotta say, I'm impressed by your userboxes -- there are a few in there I wouldn't have expected to see on the same page. :-) --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 04:49, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks and I get that a lot. ;-) SkagitRiverQueen (talk) 04:50, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Message

Messaged the user regarding his harassment. I've also reported the incident to be reviewed by other editors. Happy editing! Netalarmtalk 06:17, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

PS: You might want to archive your talk page. Netalarmtalk 06:17, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! SkagitRiverQueen (talk) 06:19, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Washington

Thanks for your post. I wholeheartedly agree that Washington is one of the most beautiful places on earth. There are some pretty nice parts of the East, like the White Mountains in New Hampshire, but they don't compare. I've been to Israel, too, and that's another one of my favorites :). When I was in Washington I took a whale watching trip that specifically went to the places the Orcas like to go. They are amazing animals. I take it that you also like watching birds. I wish I knew more about birds than I do, given that Central Park and other parks in New York are major stops along the bird migration routes and we get some very interesting ones. And BTW, I think you were right about "incensed" and "posited." Take care, AFriedman (talk) 22:44, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Happy Monday! --AFriedman (talk) 18:04, 7 December 2009 (UTC) has extended an olive branch of peace.

Route description on WA 20

Please read WP:USRD/STDS; a substantial route description is expected in a road article. See California State Route 78 for an example. I do agree that some of the details were unnecessary, and the formatting was a bit off, but it should have been revised, not blindly reverted. --Rschen7754 (T C) 06:37, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

AFriedman (talk) is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!

Spread the cheer by adding {{subst:Xmas2}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Thanks for your note and holiday greetings. And BTW, I don't know if you saw the earlier message I posted on my Talk page, but I apologize for offending you. Here is a little "present" for you. --AFriedman (talk) 19:13, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

The link is to A Christmas Carol. In my opinion, Dickens' argument is even potent enough to soften the hardened heart of a Jew like myself. You may want to look at the link about pikuach nefesh, which is an essential principle of Judaism and very similar to the point Dickens was trying to make about Christmas. I've commented on that article on its Talk page as well, because I think there are other views (including mine) which are not represented in the article. --AFriedman (talk) 19:24, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Dinos

I don't think he's heard of 3rr or other WP policies before. I put a welcome template on his talk page. We'll see how it goes. Best, Amerique 21:54, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

To our newest Rollbacker

I have just granted you rollback rights because I believe you to be trustworthy, and because you have a history of reverting vandalism and have given in the past or are trusted in the future to give appropriate warnings. Please have a read over WP:ROLLBACK and remember that rollback is only for use against obvious vandalism. Please use it that way (it can be taken away by any admin at a moment's notice). You may want to consider adding {{Rollback}} and {{User rollback}} to your userpage. Any questions, please drop me a line. Best of luck and thanks for volunteering! ❄ upstateNYer ❄ 07:13, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Good luck with the new tool! ❄ upstateNYer ❄ 14:39, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Congratulations!

Congrats on becoming a Rollbacker! Here is this.

		The Special Barnstar
		Happy New Year! --AFriedman (talk) 19:13, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, AFriedman!

Thanks :)

I enter with some trepidation - but I do have a wee bit of experience at this by now. And for some reason, I think this article should be an FA, given what a major cultural event the murders became. But, I have several ideas for what needs fixin', and I can already tell I'll get some flack for some of them. Like I said, we'll see what happens! One thing I can promise won't happen though, is that I won't be getting involved in any kind of edit warring or personal attacks with anybody over this article. I really do consider myself a battle-hardened soldier here at WP, and I've learned that the best way to win a war is to not fight it in the first place. Ok, I actually learned that from a Bruce Lee movie, but who's counting?

Anyways, you seem polite, and apparently you have some consensual trust (although this "rollbacker" thing is a thing unknown to me; it must be kinda new). I'm sure we'll get along fine, although I do believe you are the first user I've seen with a protected talk page, I wonder what exactly that means... (And that pic of Jimbo just keeps creeping me out. Repeatedly.) lol

Cya round the edit summaries... Eaglizard (talk) 06:14, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Splitting 'Manson'

While I completely agree that Manson needs to be split into 2, possibly 3 articles, I'd ask you not to push for it right now. I could tell when I first mentioned it that opinion is strongly polarized on that subject, so I've got a cunning plan to make it happen in a month or two, in a way that probably find a lot of consensus. Ofc, if you want to try and make it happen now, that's your prerogative as a WP editor. But I think a month or two from now would be better. In the meantime, I'd hoped the 'Family' section in the current article will get lots of cleanup in preparation for becoming a new article (also, as the section gets better (and prob. longer), it will begin to make its own case for a separate article.) Just my thoughts on the matter. Eaglizard (talk) 17:58, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Hey, just a heads up that I sent my reply via Email, since its full of the kind of stuff I won't discuss on WP pages. And of course, I wouldn't want to reveal my cunning plan until the time is ripe... mwahahahha. Ok, j/k. But check your email. :) Eaglizard (talk) 18:27, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Got it and just replied back :-) --SkagitRiverQueen (talk) 18:35, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Manson 20100124

A paragraph was not removed from Charles Manson. Please check the edtis again. Format (talk) 05:07, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

It was my error. My apologies. --SkagitRiverQueen (talk) 05:10, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

OK. No problems. Format (talk) 08:18, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Great photos

Thanks for adding some great photos to the Mount Vernon, WA article today. Hope you don't mind, but I added the MVHS photo to the MVHS article. Are you a local or just someone who had some photos from this area? --SkagitRiverQueen (talk) 19:13, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

I live in Seattle. I felt like getting out of the city yesterday, so I went on a photo expedition to Conway & Mount Vernon. - Jmabel | Talk 19:26, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

My talk page

Let me say this very succintly. Do not feel free to post little commentaries and notes to my talk page. You are not welcome on my talk page and any further posts such as this one will be considered blatant harassment, especially considering the circumstances, which ended with an administrator having to step in to clean up the mess you insisted was "proper and appropriate". Commentary such as that is lacking in civility and is unacceptable behavior. Further posts such as that will be reported to WP:AN/I. Find someone else to harass. Wildhartlivie (talk) 19:44, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm...incivility, unacceptible behavior and harrassment, eh? That's pretty hilarious coming from the person who harassed me anonymously by email, violates WP standards continually, and totally breached community trust with the use of sockpuppets (and then lied about it all). My irony meter is now officially broken. :-D --SkagitRiverQueen (talk) 20:02, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Telling someone their request is funny isn't all that helpful. WHL has basically requested that you not post to her talk page anymore, pushing aside her rationale that you clearly disagree with. What do you think of this request, SRQ? Equazcion 20:05, 7 Feb 2010 (UTC)

As with pretty much anything the exposed sockpuppet-master and continual violator of WP rules and standards Wildharlivie has to say...I don't think much of it at all. She issues warnings and threats to other editors regularly - it's known (and not just by me) as part of her bullying tactic. Since she's been exposed as a liar (remember, she lied for years as her sockpuppet LaVidaLoca, she lied when she denied being LaVidaLoca, and then again when she employed yet another sock while blocked because of being a sockmaster), I don't take the majority of what she says seriously. Anymore, it's all pretty much just a big yawner for me. --SkagitRiverQueen (talk) 20:11, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Archives

My talk page archives are located here.

SkagitRiverQueen and Wildhartlivie

To both of you. You both need to disengage from each other. That means completely. No more accusations from either of you about the other. Both of you need to read meatball:DefendEachOther and rely on others to make any reports, because this level of sniping is unsatisfactory. I've left the indentical message on both your talks, because I don't want to hear about who started it. Be the bigger person, and walk away. ++Lar: t/c 22:20, 7 February 2010 (UTC)