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WikiMedal

For helping clean up the talk section of the Pope Benedict XVI article, here is the Wikimedal for Janitoral Services. Zscout370 00:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Much appreicated KTC 01:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

XAOSFLUX

IF YOU WOULD HAVE LOOKED AT HIS TALK PAGE, YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN THAT I APOLOGIZED FOR THAT EDIT. Jim16 02:23, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Dalai Lama vandalism

Sorry. But some folks are being asinine and continually violating 3RR on that page. — Rickyrab | Talk 04:56, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Page moves

Hi KTC, and thanks for the proposals to make the page titles consistent with others in the same country. Fg2 04:27, May 2, 2005 (UTC)

FAOC

Re your vote on styles. I understand and agree. But only casting one vote is effectively a vote against Alternative 1 because it means that less opposition is recorded against its nearest rival. Ireland uses an electoral system called Proportional Representation using a Single Transferable Vote. It works on the same principle as the one being used (only less complicated! I never thought I would find a system more complicated than PR.STV!) What you do is give your bottom preference to the people you want to defeat, and spread your vote in a way that boosts the rivals of the alternative you do not want. So if for example, you find Alternative 3 the one you least like, give it your bottom vote so that opposition to it is recorded. And spread the other votes to ensure the weakest get votes ahead of it. If for example in Ireland I want to ensure candidate 'x' of Fianna Fáil is elected, and ensure candidate 'y' of Sinn Féin is defeated, and there are 15 candidates, I give my number 1 to 'x', my number '15' to 'y' and spread my other votes to ensure that all other candidates beat 'y'.

Sinn Féin and Fianna Fáil voters famously used to practice a 'first and only choice' vote by just voting for their own preferred candidate and then stopping. They eventually realised that they were wasting their vote because they weren't using it to block those they were most opposed to, or to build up the rivals to the candidate they were opposed to. To stop Alternative 3 winning, if that is what you want, give it your fifth choice and give your second, third and fourth choices to the weakest options.

Just be careful though not to copy everyone else doing it. If everyone gives the same other alternatives the same order of votes they may win. So if option 4 gets a lot of 2s, give it a 4. Doing a full vote right down the line will have the effect of strengthening Alternative 1 vis-a-vis 3 or whatever. Just voting for 1 and stopping actually weakens it against its rivals if everyone else votes down the line, because while their opposition to different alternatives is recorded, by stopping at 1 your's isn't. That is why though very popular Alternative 1 is being beaten. Remember the winner won't be decided by who has more votes for, but which faces the least opposition. By voting first and only choice you haven't recorded your opposition to the other options. Slán FearÉIREANNFile:Ireland flag large.png\ 00:15, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

Survey on Prefixed-Styles

Since you are one of the people currently voting a "First and only choice" I am hoping to encourage you to vote a full set of preferences in the ongoing survey before May 14, in order to prevent a deadlock which will result in no consensus. Whig 12:47, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

HKWNB, HKCOTW, Current events

Hi. Thanks for your contributions to the Education of Hong Kong. You might be interested to take a look at HK wikipedians' notice board, HK Collaboration of the Week and Current events in Hong Kong and Macao. Happy editing! — Insta ntnood 16:38, May 15, 2005 (UTC)

I Need your help on 'Move Tsushima Islands' Issue

Hi! You appear to be an possible QUALIFIED interested disinterested bystander... I'm just making the rounds to everyone that has made their mark on Tsushima Islands which lead me to Fg2, (thence to then YOU! Congrats! Booby Prize, but I badly need some responisble People to help me mediate therein that are familiar with things Japanese... Sorry, but I infer that's still YOU!) in the last month trying to mediate this flaming revert war — I can use your help — Bring lots O water! (Better yet Beer) Frank

This is the message I've been dropping on anyone on the Talk or Article pages since 13 May, I'd appreciate it if you can familarize yourself on the small article and stand-by to jump in on Tuesday with some cogent watersprays from a logical firehose! Thanks for the trouble -- the issue is trivial, (Is proper name plural or singular, Forsooth!) save there seem to be at least two teens in a war going well over three hundred edits in this one month sampling interval, over 70 edits in the past three days.

I would appreciate a rational explaination (after you read my Comments in the subject dispute Talk:Tsushima Islands), of the arguement or arguments you consider vital and germane to the discusion and vote. Frankly, MOST all of you are being silly over nothing of particular importance, since both names can be redirected into the one used. I have left a comment concerning my contribution to the article, which contribution — seems to have triggered the current edit and revision wars. For that I apologize, but see the Comments on the vote. I am also taking the liberty of putting the vote section AFTER the Comments about same.
Still, I have just spent over four hours of valuable spare time, and would welcome your thoughts after you read and understand the distinction I put forth between a governments termonology as a governing body and a geographical reference like an archepelego, which it certainly is.
More to the point, I'd like to see your defense regarding your favorite POV of what I had to say viz a viz the mergest attitude of the senior editors and administrators that frequent the Misplaced Pages:VfD discussions. To my recollection, I don't recollect any of you hotheads in this dispute ever spending anytime thereon, possibly excepting Mel Etitis, but rarely even then.
In any event, I'm neutral here, and have asked that the article be kept EDIT FREE for the next three days by placing The Inuse template into it — I'd copyedited over two and half hours before I suspended that effort the other night because this shameful fued was going on — proper English grammer does depend, unfortunately, on whether one uses the plural or the singular. I saved that on my hard drive, but I don't need to wade through yet another 70 edits to finish the job. As it is, this matter will probably double the time it takes for such a simple job.
If you are local to Japan, some history of the canals or Sea-channel is certainly germane to the ongoing discussion, moreover, any cogent arguement you condsider being particularly telling needs to be clearly repeated in the current on going comments if you want them counted on in the vote.
I will make sure this message goes to each contributor to the article the past month, so you are not being singled out. Now is the time to take a deep breath, for rational concise summaries, not all the arguing that is so wearisome in 66 printed pages - half a novelette, I'd guess! It's certainly a lot to ask your fellow editors to wade through on a minor issue.
I will also personally be making sure that at least a dozen other Administrators I'm acquainted with take a look at the debate after the time below. I will in fact ask for twenty commitments, so be clear and respectful of our time!!!
Thankyou for your time, attention, and good professional behaviour. I'll check the Talk state again no sooner than Monday around Noon (UTC), And ask the uninvolved others to do the same. PLEASE BE CONCISE. 24.61.229.179 03:13, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

24.61.229.179 03:13, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Well that's my heads up, and appeal -- Hope you can help. I really don't have a dog in this fight! If you can alert a few others qualified on matters Japanese, by all means, please do so!

Students' Union executive officers

IMO, being on the Union exec does not in any way equate to being on the board of a multi-million multi-national company. Misplaced Pages is not a crystal ball. Because some officers go on to great things does not mean that they all will, and an encyclopaedia is for recrding what is and what has been, not what might be. That they might be notable in future is not a reason to include them now. More importantly, if you want to discuss this somewhere, that's fine by me, but user pages are not an appropriate venue for general content debates. I will be removing the discussion from my talk page in 24 hours. If you wish to continue, find an appropriate article talk page or start something in the Misplaced Pages: namespace, and I'll happily join in, but user talk pages are for contacting people personally, and I'll not have something like this cluttering up my talk page (which is long overdue for cleanup anyway). Chris talk back 16:25, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Discussion moved to Talk:Students Union at Chris request.

Accusations of vandalism

From your edit summaries:

rvv - where in the hell did I accuse you of vandalism

rvv = "revert vandalism". Chris talk back 03:33, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, I meant just revert. Am in the process of moving dicussion. KTC 03:34, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for clearing that up. Plain revert is simply "rv", though I'd appreciate it if you'd stop reverting trivia back into the articles now ;-) Chris talk back 04:25, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

SU Info Box

Like it. Although stylistically "Sabbatical Officers" would probably be better than 'sabbaticals'. Paulleake 03:54, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. That bit is easily change. Done. ;-) Better ? -- KTC 03:57, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

WMF article spelling change

Hi, I reverted your recent change of spelling on the WMF vulnerability article. The difference is not a spelling error, rather alternative in spellings. The old one pointed to the actual wikipedia's article, whereas the spelling you changed to points to a redirect. See Misplaced Pages:Manual_of_Style#National_varieties_of_English. -- KTC 05:51, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I apologize for not taking care to check the redirect effect, which is really how 'correctness' should be judged. Thanks again - A-Day _(t) 06:08, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks re: User:Jim16

For looking into User:Jim16. - Roy Boy 05:48, 7 January 2006 (UTC)