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Recent edits re Golan Heights

Hi, I see that you have recently edited to remove large swaths of text from the Golan Heights article, and removed the Golan Heights category from articles such as Rujm el-Hiri even though the Rujm el-Hiri article seems to establish the connection to Golan Heights. I think it is best that you self revert your 1 edit 10kb removal on Golan Heights and make smaller edits that are easier to discuss, I would also welcome an explanation of why Rujm el-Hiri should not bear the Golan Heights category. Thanks, Unomi (talk) 12:53, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

I see that the Golan Heights category is redundant to Prehistoric sites on the Golan Heights. I still think it best to split up the edits on the Golan Heights article. Best, Unomi (talk) 13:01, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Removed material after posted Quneitra needs compacting yesterday. Rujm el-Hiri is categorised under Category:Prehistoric sites on the Golan Heights and Category:Former populated places on the Golan Heights, both sub-cats of Category:Golan Heights. Chesdovi (talk) 13:03, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

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Please make sure to avoid personal attacks. What I presume to be your IP address has already been blocked for 1 week. Given that you first added the material here, and then as an IP the same material was added back here (with an attacking comment), and the high correlation of articles you and User:Supreme Deliciousness both edit, I am applying WP:DUCK in explicitly warning you against NPA here. If this is merely a coincidence, please accept my apology, but WP:DUCK points pretty strongly to this conclusion, as does a review of the talk page history of, for example, Talk:Golan Heights.  Frank  |  talk  17:01, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

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That IP is not me. Me and SD do manage to get along without attacks. I for one never would use such language. I never have done so, even as a teen, and am sure that I never will. Bad language including nasty remarks are something I personally abhor. (Something quite unique I think!) B-) Chesdovi (talk) 10:23, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

That's great. The WP:DUCK test does sometimes fail, and indeed SD didn't seem to think you and the IP were related either. No need for me to look for trouble where there's none; the IP was blocked for the comment and I guess that's that. Best regards!  Frank  |  talk  12:14, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Golan Heights lead

		The Geography Barnstar
		For expanding the lead of the Golan Heights article with much needed and not purely political information after so many others shied away from the taskCptnono (talk) 11:22, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Wikibias.com

fyi Wikibias.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Palisadespkwy (talk • contribs) 17:11, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

I hope that you will take a look at the wikibias website.~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by RockvilleMD (talk • contribs) 15:24, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Sandur, Kurdistan

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Racism article

Hello Chesdovi, you reinserted a number of unreliable sources with the edit summary of "structuring". Some of the specific sources you reinserted were this self-published website, this WND piece, this random website. Was this intentional? nableezy - 14:14, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

It was an edit conflict. Chesdovi (talk) 15:45, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Jpost and Nytimes sources on Palestinian racist cartoons and the "this is not RS campaign"

Chesdovi, thank you very much for your contributions.

In reference to what nableezy wrote...

What's wrong with WND site? who's decided it's not reliable? incidently, that particular article is even cited in the 'arabnews' source (which was) just added. Is 'arabnews' not RS by nableezy all of a sudden?

From New York Times

racist cartoons. A Palestinian newspaper, Al Qud, depicted Ms. Rice as pregnant with an armed monkey, and a caption that read, “Rice speaks about the birth of a new Middle East.”

New York Times Rice’s Hurdles on Middle East Begin at Home, by Helena Cooper, August 10, 2006

In reference to what you just said there, the research by Dr. Susan is widely noted: Reflections on Arab-led slavery of Africans, by K. K. Prah, 2005, p. 198 , Tinabantu: Centre for Advanced Studies of African Society, 2002, p. 17

His attempts in discrediting very reliable sources is noted, as he removed the portion I added on (Israel National News of its wide acceptance and credibilty, stating that it is being widly quoted in books and cited by mainstream media including The Guardian, Washington Post and others, if it's reliable as news and facts source by mainstream RS, it should be fine to all) Thank you.RS101 (talk) 00:54, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Block

My apologies on the block mistake, your edit earlier today was not a revert, please keep the 1RR rule in force on the page in mind. --WGFinley (talk) 01:50, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Friendliness

Hi Chesdovi,

I'd suggest that you refrain from directly insulting other editors as that tends to lead to temporary or permanent bans. Feel free to disagree with me ... I'm happy to have a conversation or to be proven wrong, but talking about someone's "crude little mind" is quite insulting and does not meet the[REDACTED] standards for WP:Civility. Personally I don't really care what anyone calls me, but other editors are less forgiving are are likely to report you to an admin. Zuchinni one (talk) 08:41, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

I for one really do not appreciate having to decode two-letter acronyms used in place of profanities or having to read talk page posts littered with lewd references. Sorry. Chesdovi (talk) 17:27, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Well apologies for the acronym then. It was not directed at you but rather at the particular argument that many groups have made regarding the out-of-date medicine. I also wasn't suggesting that you were the one making the argument, since it looked like you were just passing along information you heard. It's something I know quite a bit about ... and while out-of-date medicine is certainly not preferred, it can be extremely useful. Zuchinni one (talk) 19:14, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Whether directed at me or not, I find crude references uncalled for. You must be a teenager, who are unfortunately prone to think and talk crudely. Hopefully, during your maturing years, you will learn to appreciate the quality of refinement in speech. Chesdovi (talk) 12:11, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Church of Scientology editing on Misplaced Pages

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Jobar

hey, im not sure what you mean exactly with the transaltion for it... the Arabic Word for it is Pronounced Jobar, and is spelled in Arabic Letters, as follows "جوبر", yet it is usually referred to as Hay Jobar, حي جوبر , which means, jobar district... i hope i was helpfull Arab League User (talk) 20:22, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Hello

Those that push the section about "settlements" (or shall we say disputed territories) have no beef, it does not belong in the Racism in Palestine page.RolesRoice (talk) 18:37, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Menarsha synagogue attack

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Shalom al-Yisrael Synagogue

Hi - I think that you erroneously changed the name of the "Shalom Al Yisrael Synagogue" to "Shalom al-Yisrael Synagogue". "Al Yisrael" is not the eqivalent of "Al-Aksa" (e.g.). In Hebrew, "al" means "on" or "over", and is a separate word. In Arabic, "al-" is "the", part of the referenced word (not separate). I think the correct page name should be "Shalom Al Yisrael Synagogue".
I won't even bring up the merger proposal that I have, here... --Sreifa (talk) 08:16, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

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Western Wall Interfaith Service - deletion

Chesdovi, I just checked your user page and I'm blown away by the contributions you've made and the knowledge that you have.... I see that you have deleted the sub-section on the interfaith service held at the Western Wall in honor of the Sixth Fleet, and hope you agree it was not overly chutzpadik of me to restore it on a temporary basis, just asking for other editors to help make a group decision. For reasons I outline on that page's discussion page, I do think it was historically significant. However, as I mention on that page, I am not neutral in terms of this event, because I was involved. Therefore, I'll just ask that others make the decision as a larger group decision. However, I hope you know that my request in no way shows a lack of respect for your many significant contributions to wikipedia!!! NearTheZoo (talk) 15:09, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Note placement in the Western Wall

Thanks for your opinion; I value it. Do you prefer moving the material out of Kvitel and into this article because kvitel is not a common English term? Fair enough. Also, do you think I could rename this article Placing notes in the Western Wall, because the way it's titled, I thought it was talking about where the notes were placed. Kol tuv, Yoninah (talk) 18:17, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

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Judaism and bus stops - misleadingt edit summary

You did not 'Undid revision 389090261 by Dougweller ' - why does your edit summary say you did? I removed text cited to an email archive, you may have restored the text, but you changed the sources. Please don't leave edit summaries like that, whether they are done manually or not. Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 12:27, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Sorry! Understand totally. Sorry for the mislead. Chesdovi (talk) 12:29, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. Dougweller (talk) 12:40, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

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Dude

As amusing and as much as i agree with your point I am actually surprised no one has blocked you. The Resident Anthropologist (talk) 13:42, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

I guess other people do not view it that way. Or maybe they have more undersatnding? Who knows. Chesdovi (talk) 13:47, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Just had a look at WP:POINT. Interesting. Does this fall under WP:NOTPOINTY? Besides, the subject possibly has redeeming factors, as stated at AFD. Chesdovi (talk) 13:51, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Dude I agree with your with you Judaism and Violence is a violation of WP:SYTH. I love the but its pointy as hell. I am just surprised that no one has given a Block for being so pointy. Its a sitution where I dont know if i should give a barnstar to you or TroutThe Resident Anthropologist (talk) 14:10, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

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No, Bad languauge is much worse. (Who adsded this?) Chesdovi (talk) 13:59, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

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ANI

I've mentioned you here. .Bali ultimate (talk) 19:06, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

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Settlements

Could you please provide a good reason why you inserted a nonsensical phrase like "The settlement was built with good intentions by Israel" and removing that the settlement is illegal while immediately before that adding, without a source, to the articles on places in Northern Cyprus that "It is occupied by Turkey and is considered an illegal settlement by the international community."? I am dying to see what possible reasoning could lead one person to make both of those edits. nableezy - 06:08, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

And I should note, I reverted the edits to the articles on the Cyprus localities. If you can provide sources for your assertions great, but until then you cant edit in such a way. Im tempted to revert the Golan articles, but Ill wait for the explanation. nableezy - 06:15, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Please revert all the edits you made to the illegal settlements in NC using these sources easily found on GB:

"The Turkish government decided to rely for its demographic base not so much on Turkish Cypriots, but rather on heavy and illegal colonization by tens of thousands of Anatolian Turks, in addition to the large Turkish military force occupying the north, much of which would ultimately settle there. As a result of the settlement policies, many Turkish Cypriots eventually decided to leave Cyprus. This illegal settlement, whose intention was to alter the demographic reality of northern Cyprus and drive out the Greeks who had remained, was for a time denied by the Turkish government and, in particular, by the us State Department in the person of its special Cyprus negotiator, Nelson Ledsky."

"Turkish forces are present in Northern Cyprus, which is home to some 146000 illegal settlers (illegal because Northern Cyprus is internationally held to be under Turkish occupation). These settlers, from the Turkish mainland, outnumber the 89000 Turkish Cypriots. In defiance of international law, one-third of the settlers have been "naturalized.""

Thanks so much Nab. Ask SD if she wants to give you a hand. I know I can count on you both. Chesdovi (talk) 11:39, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Your first source is published by "greekworks.com" and the second one by a children's book publisher. Thanks but no thanks. You havent answered my question as to why you removed what was sourced in the Golan articles and replaced it with nonsense while you were adding similar, but unsourced, information to the Northern Cyprus articles. nableezy - 13:26, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Also, you are making it very difficult for me to not ask for a block or topic ban with your actions at the Rachel's Tomb article. nableezy - 13:28, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Dear, dear. What children today are being indoctrinated with! Results of a more comprehensive search:

The situation in the northern part of Cyprus has been made deliberately worse by the illegal settlement of many thousands of mainland Turks, in itself a clear contravention of the Geneva Conventions. (Official journal of the European Communities: Debates of the European Parliament, Issue 4; Issue 486) (Not sure if "debates" constitute RS.)

"The homes and properties of the Greek Cypriots continued to be the object of de-facto expropriation and illegal possession and exploitation contrary to Article 1 of the First Protocol and the general principles of International Law. These continuing violations have been intensified through the increased and systematic settlement of settlers from Turkey, with the encouragement and assistance of Turkey, against the will of the lawful Government of Cyprus”. Council of Europe Yearbook of the European Convention on Human Rights, Volume 39; Volume 1996. Chapter 2 – Case-law of the Commission: Texts of selected decisions: Application No. 25781/94: Cyprus v. Turkey. Decision of 28 June 1996 on the admissibility of the application. 4(d). BRILL 1998. ISBN: 9041105530.

If you can find more sources, by all means include them. Now please proceed to add it back. I have asked SD to assit you. Thanks. Chesdovi (talk) 14:49, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

I see you have yet again refused to answer my question. Thats ok, Ill ask again once I address your comments. The settlement of Turks in Northern Cyprus does indeed violate the Geneva Conventions, however, only those localities that were established for those people can be called "illegal". A village in Northern Cyprus that has been continuously inhabited from before the Turkish occupation of the territory is not a "settlement" and is not "illegal". The settling of Turks in occupied territory is illegal under international law, your sources support that. But here, as with the Rachel's Tomb article, you misrepresent the source. The source does not say the villages are illegal, it says the settlers are. Now, back to my question. How is it that you can justify removing a aourced line from the Golan articles on the illegality of Israeli settlements there but at the same time add an unsourced line about the supposed illegality of localities in Northern Cyprus. Id like to understand how one person can do both of these things in good faith. nableezy - 15:02, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

OR. And with regards to your question, I have answered at the Incidents page. Chesdovi (talk) 15:04, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

OR???? What is OR is your taking a line saying the Turkey settling its civilians is illegal to say that X village is an illegal settlement. You havent given a source that says that or anything close to that. You have finally answered my question though, it is not possible to make both of those edits in good faith. As you have demonstrated that you are not editing in good faith Ill adjust how I deal with your actions. Bye. nableezy - 15:19, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

You are not being rational. It is your own OR that states illegality only applies to newly constructed settlements after an occupation began. This is inconsistent with examples in other parts of the world. Chesdovi (talk) 15:44, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

My source for illegal settlements: The homes and properties of Greek Cypriots in Northern Cyprus are the continued object of de-facto expropriation and illegal possession and exploitation. Synonymous with: The homes and properties of Palestinian Arabs in the West Bank are the continued object of de-facto expropriation and illegal possession and exploitation. If this citation does not support that the villages occupied by Turkey in NC are not illegal settlements, what does? Over to you Nab. Chesdovi (talk) 15:52, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

You can pretend that your sources are "equivalent" but anybody who reads them can easily see that you are making things up and clearly editing in bad faith. But the reason I am writing this comment is to inform you that you have been reported to the edit-warring noticeboard. See here. nableezy - 16:11, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

The homes and properties of Greek Cypriots in Northern Cyprus are the continued object of de-facto expropriation and illegal possession and exploitation, that means they, the settlements and villages inhabited by the Turks, are invalid, or illegal. Hence, illegal settlements. Why should I have to re-add all the info?Chesdovi (talk) 17:22, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Joseph's Tomb links

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Editing restriction

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What does 1RR mean. Only 1 revert? Chesdovi (talk) 17:20, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Yes, 1 revert per day. PhilKnight (talk) 17:30, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Per the ArbCom Israeli-Palestinian discretionary sanctions of which you were notified yesterday, I have blocked your account for one month for massively disruptive and tendentious editing. Looie496 (talk) 18:21, 21 October 2010 (UTC)