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Instructions

Using a DYK suggestion string (see below examples), list new suggestions in the candidate entries section below under the date the article was created or the expansion began (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the bottom. Any user may nominate a DYK suggestion; self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination. Every approved hook will appear on the main page.

DYK criteria

How to list a new nomination

Please use one of the strings below to post your DYK nomination, using the "author" and "nominator" fields to identify the users who should receive credit for their contributions if the hook is featured on the main page.

1. Nom without image: {{subst:NewDYKnom | article= | hook=... that ? | author= }}
2. Nom with image: {{subst:NewDYKnom | article= | hook=... that ? | author= | image= | caption= }}

   To include more than one new or expanded article in a single hook: |article2= |article3= |article4= | (etc)

   To include more than one author: |author2= |author3= | (etc)

   To include alternate hooks: |ALT1= |ALT2= | (etc)

   To add a comment: |comment=

   To add the article you reviewed: |reviewed=

Do not wikilink the article title, or the author username field; the template will wikilink them automatically. Do wikilink the article title in the hook field, however.
Do not add a section heading if you are using the template; the template will add one for you.
Do not include a signature (~~~~) after the template.
Do not use non-free images in your hook suggestion.

An example of how to use the template is given below. Don't forget to fill out the rollover text, so people know what the image is of! Full details are at {{NewDYKnom}}:

{{subst:NewDYKnom
 | article    = Example
 | status     = new<!--(or)  expanded (or) BLP expanded-->
 | hook       = ... that this ] is an  ''']''' ''(pictured)''?
 | author     = User
 | nominator  =
 | image      = Example.png
 | rollover   = An example image
 | alttext    = Description of the image
 | comment    =
 | reviewed   = Article you reviewed
}}

• Note that you should only use one of the above templates for the original hook. If you want to suggest a second, alternative hook for the same article submission, just type it in manually. The above templates output useful code for each submission and if you employ them for alternative hooks, you will mess up the page formatting.
• When saving your suggestion, please add the name of the suggested article to your edit summary.
• Please check back for comments on your nomination. Responding to reasonable objections will help ensure that your article is listed.
• If you nominate someone else's article, you can use {{subst:DYKNom}} to notify them. Usage: {{subst:DYKNom|Article name}}

How to review a nomination

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, or may suggest new hooks. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the additional rules.

If you want to confirm that an article is ready to be placed on a later update, or note that there is an issue with the article or hook, please use the following symbols to point the issues out:

Symbol	Code	DYK Ready?	Description
	{{subst:DYKtick}}	Yes	No problems, ready for DYK
	{{subst:DYKtickAGF}}	Yes	Article is ready for DYK, with a foreign-language or offline hook reference accepted in good faith
	{{subst:DYK?}}	Query	DYK eligibility requires that an issue be addressed. Notify nominator with {{subst:DYKproblem|Article}}
	{{subst:DYK?no}}	Maybe	DYK eligibility requires additional work. Notify nominator with {{subst:DYKproblem|Article}}
	{{subst:DYKno}}	No	Article is either completely ineligible, or else requires considerable work before becoming eligible

Please consider using {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page, in case they do not notice that there is an issue.

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Nominations

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on January 2

Art of Azerbaijani ashiqs

• ... that in 2009, Art of Azerbaijani ashiqs is included in UNESCO's Intangible Cultural Heritage list and includes up to 3000 ashiqs worldwide?

Created by --NovaSkola (talk) 07:10, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Article should be listed as "expansion" rather than "new", comes to ~9x expansion (by my count). Added one more source for the hook, but neither of them mention the second fact, (about 3000 Ashiqs). Everything else is fine. SPat 15:32, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Confirmed opinion of Spat - sources do not support hook. No action on this DYK in 17 days, proceeding to fail it. - DustFormsWords (talk) 05:27, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Not so fast! Actually, I found the number 3000 in one of the sources cited in the article. A new hook could be written, too. I didn't do that because I am confused by the spelling of "ashiq" and "ashig" (both spellings appear in the article) -- are these different words, or just different renderings of the spelling? (I posted a query on the article talk page.) --Orlady (talk) 16:25, 20 January 2011 (UTC) Also, I see that the article creator was not notified (until now) about the problem with the hook. --Orlady (talk) 16:29, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Orlady, ashiq is correct in this situation, meaning the music performer. Ashig is meaning - lover, in Azerbaijani language but also used sometimes for music performer. But I would keep Ashiq with Q letter.--NovaSkola (talk) 17:47, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Both spellings appear in the article, and I think some of them are intended to refer to the "lover" meaning. Can you go through the article and make sure that the distinctions are made properly? --Orlady (talk) 18:05, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Jo Tong Sop

• ... that Jo Tong Sop is the current head coach of the North Korea national football team?

Created by Spongie555 (talk). Self nom at , 2 January 2011 (UTC)

• I reviewed Drove Cottage Henge which is the nomination under mine. Spongie555 (talk) 05:43, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Not sure the hook is catchy enough, but I can't come up with anything better myself. Perhaps something about the alleged public shaming might work? Rwxrwxrwx (talk) 14:23, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

DYK Koji Gyotoku has the same hook but different team and it was accepted. Spongie555 (talk) 00:25, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

• This article includes a lot of padding to get it to 1500 characters, so maybe try to find some more information about this person. And Rwxrwxrwx is right that the hook isn't very impressive. Just because a subpar hook was accepted in the past doesn't mean it always has to be. - PM800 (talk) 14:49, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

• Due to North Korea's secretive nature there is limited sources on him and most is about him coaching and nothing about his personal life. Also yes the hook isn't impressive but I can't think of another so I'm open to any other hooks. Spongie555 (talk) 21:16, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

• Why not omit the N. Korea reference and do something like:
  ... that Jo Tong Sop was shamed in a six-hour public inquisition when his football team failed to win the World Cup?
   —SMALLJIM  00:12, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

• I like that alt better if anyone wants to review the nomination again now. Spongie555 (talk) 03:02, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

• There's a problem in that the article contradicts itself on that point: He was also part of North Korea's football team, on return home from the FIFA World Cup 2010 in South Africa when they were shamed in a six-hour public inquisition in Kim Il-Sung Square after the team's coach, Kim Jong-Hun, had been accused of "betraying" the nation's leader's heir apparent, Kim Jong Un, following their failure at the World Cup, according to reports. Later it was proven false that they were shamed and the team was busy practicing for the Asian Games. (Emphasis added.) It should be noted that the source for the second sentence doesn't rule out the possibility that Jo Tong Sop and the team were indeed subjected to a six-hour public shaming, but afterwards then allowed to return to their normal football schedule. Either way, this article should avoid having a self-contradiction on this point. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:16, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

• I reworded it alittle. You can continue the review. Spongie555 (talk) 05:28, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

There's less than 1500 characters of prose there. My count gives 1384 characters. Rwxrwxrwx (talk) 11:20, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

I fixed it. Spongie555 (talk) 03:31, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

• Sorry Spongie, you need to make a bit more effort here. You keep asking us to do reviews when there are clearly some significant issues outstanding each time. This time, we still don't have a reasonable hook to consider. Can you give us the text of the hook you are proposing, and clear up any other issues so the reviewers don't have to do the work of the nominator. Thanks. Rwxrwxrwx (talk) 12:51, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Here is the alt:

... that Jo Tong Sop was shamed in a six-hour public inquisition when his football team failed to win the World Cup? Spongie555 (talk) 03:07, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

• The article says that, "Later it was proven that the team was not shamed but busy practicing for the Asian Games." - PM800 (talk) 03:17, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

• OK, how about this:

Hook: ... that it was widely but wrongly reported that Jo Tong Sop was subjected to a 6-hour public shaming when his North Korean football team failed to do well in the 2010 World Cup?

The DYK criteria seem to be met:

New: yes

Length: ~1700 characters, substantial

Hook: interesting, mentioned and cited

Neutral/policy: well-sourced

Rwxrwxrwx (talk) 17:05, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

• Per Misplaced Pages:Did you know#Content, "Articles and hooks which focus on negative aspects of living individuals should be avoided."

  I would like a second opinion about whether this violates Misplaced Pages:Did you know#Content before the submission is declined.

  The original hook, though bland, is more suitable for the main page than this one. Perhaps that one could be verified? Cunard (talk) 09:38, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 3

Jenny Lind Tower

• ... that although it is thought that the Jenny Lind Tower was moved to its present location by an admirer of the late singer, the mover was born seventeen years after she toured the United States?

• Comment: I reviewed the article Patience and Sarah (opera) below.

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Self nom at 07:31, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

• The length and references check out (I'm assuming they stand up to whatever notability criteria we have for places/buildings, which I'm not familiar with - there's also Google Books), but the hook is a bit convoluted. It could, instead, be about the performance...? Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 07:46, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

• Sure, go ahead and fix it if you want. Kevin Rutherford (talk)`

• Something like "... that opera singer Jenny Lind is rumored to have climbed the Jenny Lind Tower in North Truro, Massachusetts and prevented a riot by singing to the public below?" Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 20:21, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

• Go for it! I wasn't sure if that would work but it sounds better than the original. Thanks for your help. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 22:53, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

I can't find the word riot or something close to it in the refs ... maybe I missed it. All I read about was her singing to people who failed to get tickets. Victuallers (talk) 21:53, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, there is no word "riot" in the references. The best hook would probably read, " that opera singer Jenny Lind is rumored to have climbed a tower later named after her and sung to the crowd below when they were unable to attend her concert?" Besides, the second hook makes it seem as though the tower was located in North Truro when she climbed it. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 19:06, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Close paraphrasing.

Article: "Edward Snow embellished the myth by saying, "There are those who like to believe", that one of the Aldrich family group was captivated by Jenny Lind's voice, which influenced him to move the tower to his newly bought land in Truro."

Source: "Edward Rowe Snow embellished the myth. “There are those who like to believe,” that one of the Aldrich family group was captivated by Jenny Lind’s voice and that this influenced him to move the tower to his land in Truro."

Article: "Snow went on to undercut his speculations though by stating that Aldrich's son, Samuel N. Aldrich, later told him that Lind's performance in no way motivated the elder Aldrich to move the tower to his land."

Source: "Snow undercut his speculations, however, by stating that Aldrich’s son, Samuel Nelson Aldrich, told him that Jenny Lind’s performance in no way motivated his father to move the tower."

Unreliable source. The article has two sources. One is reliable; the other is not. Cunard (talk) 09:56, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

All the issues are addressed. It is ready to go. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 23:04, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 8

Jared Lee Loughner

• ... that Jared Lee Loughner is being held in the Federal Correctional Institution at Phoenix, Arizona?

Created by 574jerry (talk), Hoponpop69 (talk), KimChee (talk), and Flodded (talk). Self nom at 23:36, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

• Comment: Reviewed ZX81. Hook kept deliberately simple to avoid press information that could be subject to interpretation. KimChee (talk) 23:37, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that Jared Lee Loughner was detained at the Federal Correctional Institution at Phoenix after the 2011 Tucson shooting? KimChee (talk) 05:26, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

• Note: There is an active ongoing discussion about a proposal to merge this article. DYK will need to wait until that is resolved. --Orlady (talk) 15:56, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

• Discussion closed with no consensus to merge. KimChee (talk) 07:05, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Both hooks are fine. Merge discussion is closed, hooks appear in article and are supported by an appropriate inline citation. Ready to go. - DustFormsWords (talk) 05:34, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• I would recommend ALT1 to err on contextual accuracy as there is a chance the subject's case may be moved to San Diego in the future. KimChee (talk) 06:41, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Article is not stable enough to go on the Main Page at the minute. It's just come off full protection and there are still content disputes raging. I'm not saying it shouldn't go up full stop, but that we should wait a few days (maybe a few weeks) for it to stabilise. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:35, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Understood. There is no rush for this (besides the 5-day submission window). KimChee (talk) 05:53, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 9

Personal finances of professional American athletes

• ... that the personal finances of professional American athletes are so frequently bungled, 78% of NFL and an estimated 60% of NBA players are in serious financial trouble after a few years of retirement?

Created by Clarityfiend (talk). Self nom at 07:10, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

• I reviewed Sodium tungsten bronze.diff

• length and hook checks out. Should have been listed under January 7 (date of creation), but not a problem. There are however several other issues. First of all, the article solely relates to U.S. athletes. Either the article is globalized or moved to say "Personal finances of U.S. professional athletes". Secondly, there are some problems with the tone. The passage on spouses is not really encyclopediatic, with commentary like "A prenuptial agreement is a wise precaution that not all players take". In this sense the article has more of a journalistic language than that of an encyclopedia. --Soman (talk) 11:27, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I've changed the title and removed the offending prenup wording. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:53, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 10

Women's Trade Union

• ... that a separate Women's Trade Union was founded in Sweden in 1902?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 22:00, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

• Comment, I reviewed Low Head Lighthouse. --Soman (talk) 12:58, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
• The hook is unclear – separate from what? Moreover, the article is unclear. Prior to 1902, had women tried to join any of the existing unions that were part of the Swedish Trade Union Confederation? If so, what happened and why? Or did they, from the beginning, want to organise on their own, separately? The article also has too many short, choppy sections. Both "Publication" and "Banner" can be merged into "LO affiliate" until such time as the length of the material warrants dedicated sectioning. Wasted Time R (talk) 03:42, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

• Some more detail added to the article now, ALT1, "...that as women were not allowed to join the Swedish Tailoring Workers Union, they founded a separate Women's Trade Union in 1902?" --Soman (talk) 02:16, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Gary Williams (singer)

• ... that singer Gary Williams performed at the 'Doctor Who - A Celebration' concert in 2006?

Created by Bosents (talk). Nominated by Shearonink (talk) at 00:20, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

• I can't see the hook cited - the DVD exists but I couldn't see credits there. Am I missing something? Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:32, 12 January 2011 (UTC):

Seems like it would be better to have the DYK referring to his having played Frank Sinatra? Billy Hathorn (talk) 02:24, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 11

Chancellery of the Prime Minister of Poland

• ... that the Chancellery of the Prime Minister of Poland is located in the building originally intended for the Cadet Corps of the Imperial Russian Army?

Created by Miles530 (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 18:40, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Nominated 11 days after article creation, which is a little late. - PM800 (talk) 23:01, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Fernald Hall

• ... that Fernald Hall was originally built as the home of the Massachusetts Agricultural College's expanding entomology department?

Created by Simtropolitan (talk). Nominated by Ktr101 (talk) at 17:33, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• The article is new enough and long enough, but I have two concerns. First, the rules state that the hook fact "must have an inline citation right after it since the fact is an extraordinary claim", but this article has no citations in the paragraph with the hook fact. Second, I am a bit uneasy about the Main Page linking to an article which is entirely sourced to the university's own website. Are there any reliable sources available that are more independent of the subject? Brian the Editor (talk) 21:00, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• I sourced the hook, but I don't think that there are any non-university sites that would cover it. I can tell you though that when I have talked to the archivists, I have been once told that I could literally copy and paste information from their wiki over to this one, although I haven't done so because it was never relicensed. There is really no reason though for a third party source to actually be covering this information though so I don't know what else to say there. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 21:19, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• Yes, there are several problems with the article and the hook. There's no citation support for the hook, the article includes inline external links (an inappropriate practice) that point to pages that probably should be treated as references, the article has bare references, and there's a "Trivia" section that appears to be original research. It's likely that the article will need to be sourced primarily to UMass sources, but some independent sourcing would be nice. Regarding UMass sources, I found one not cited in the article that is demonstrably wrong -- it names the wrong "Fernald" as the building's namesake and gives incorrect dates for the man's life. Based on the content of the cited sources, there appear to be some nice opportunities for expansion of the article, in addition to doing cleanup and adding more sources. --Orlady (talk) 21:19, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• Just as a general note, I cleaned up some of the page before this was posted. I will do more later. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 21:22, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Hallsteinn Sigurðsson

• ... that some twenty five of Hallsteinn Sigurðsson's sculptures are exhibited in the Gufunes sculpture park in north-east Reykjavík?

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 15:45, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Bohemic acid below.♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:48, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

I replaced 's with {{`s}} per rule C7. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 18:21, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

I can confirm that the article was an unreferenced BLP with essentially bugger all text as of 7 January 2011; that Dr Blofeld has expanded it on 11 January 2011 to (by my reckoning) 1815 characters, excluding the headings, lists, references, etc; that the hook is properly sourced (the second time it is mentioned in the article, no need for a reference in the lead), and that the source checks out. Moreover the prose is good and the subject is interesting. Some phrases do closely reflect the reference , for which an unrelated earlier version of the article was blanked due to copyright concerns; but (with the possible exception of the phrase "progressively lighter and more transparent" which should probably be either attributed as a direct quote or else appropriately paraphrased), the similar material appears to be essentially functional and factual, rather than expressive; and therefore permissible.

My worst concern is that the link seems a little bit 'ho-hum'. What really wowed me about this article was the art itself, in particular the image of Fönsun XVI - 2004 (right). I believe the hook would be much stronger if it read "... twenty five of Hallsteinn Sigurðsson's sculptures (pictured) ..." with an image of this work -- even though, as far as I know, this particular work is not one of the twenty five in the sculpture park, nevertheless in my view it would be appropriate simply as a representative sculpture by Sigurðsson.

One final thing that in my view would need to be clarifed is the copyright status of the pictures under Icelandic law potentially as derivative works of the sculpture, and therefore potentially touched by Sigurðsson's copyright in the sculpture, even though the photographer has granted a free licence to their copyright in the taking of the photograph. Regardless of whether or not the picture was included on the main page, this would need to be clarified, as we could not have the main page linking to a page with a potential rights problem. I hope this can be resolved, as I think the image is great, and I would very much like to see both it and the article featured in DYK. Jheald (talk) 15:48, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

In regards to this appearing as a DYK a]I've reworded any phrases which appeared too close for comfort to the source you identified. b] The image is highly unlikely going to appear on the main page anyway. given that this is hardly lead DYK material. It should be good to go.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:14, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

I'll give way to more experienced hands at DYK on this; but, as I said above, if there's a potential rights issue, it's not just a question of what appears on the main page - we shouldn't link to such an article from the main page. That's why I'm hoping you can sort this out, because there is no question but that those images add immeasurably to the page, so it would be good to keep them if we possibly can. Jheald (talk) 23:13, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

• Back to the hook, I think that the exhibition of his works in the tunnels and vaults of the hydroelectric station at Laxá could make a more interesting hook. This exhibit is mentioned in the lead paragraph, but it is not explained. Information is here. --Orlady (talk) 15:33, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 12

2010–11 Colorado Buffaloes men's basketball team

• ... that the 2010–11 Colorado Buffaloes men's basketball team is the first since 2003 to record a win over a top-ten ranked team?

• Reviewed: Interactive urinal

Created by Editorofthewiki (talk). Self nom at 02:54, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

• hook needs cite. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 04:43, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Abo Elementary School

• ... that Abo Elementary School in Artesia, New Mexico was the first school built entirely underground?

5x expanded by The Luigiian (talk). Self nom at 09:49, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

• Length, sourcing and history for article and hook have been reviewed. The source says the only "public school", and doesn't preclude the existence of underground schools constructed earlier outside the United States. Some mention of the decision to build underground to provide protection from nuclear fallout during the Cold War may make the hook a bit more interesting. Alansohn (talk) 16:22, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

• It could be longer. How about...

• (Alt) ... that Abo Elementary School in Artesia, New Mexico was the first school built entirely underground and equipped as a fallout shelter in the case of nuclear war?

• Does that sound better? Silverseren 04:16, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

• No, it sounds worse :-p More seriously, I do prefer shorter and more punchy, when possible. Jheald (talk) 15:56, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 13

Thomas Witherings

• ... that Thomas Witherings was responsible for establishing the Royal Mail letter service in 1635?

Created by Motmit (talk). Self nom at 21:59, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

• The hook (and to some extent the article) are a bit confusing. The Royal Mail dates back to 1516, under Henry VIII. The significance of 1635 is that Charles I opens it up for the general public, and at some point the General Post Office is created (what year? you have a piped link to it, but the exact association is unclear). Most histories will say that Charles I was "responsible for establishing" the new service in 1635, for example this British Postal Museum page. So exactly what happened in 1635 needs to be more clear, and the precise role that Witherings played better expressed. As a separate issue, the article itself has substandard presentation values and isn't quite suitable for appearance from the main page. The last paragraph on marriage and finance is oddly out of chronological sequence with the rest of the article. Many wikilinks are missing, such as to various lords and earls and to the London streets named. Some of the footnotes are before punctuation, when they should be after; in at least one case, there are periods both before and after the footnote. There should be no space in "2½ d" (I didn't recognize this as being pence at first). Why is one quotation in italics, the rest in regular font? The sources, especially the wonderfully old book ones, lack full bibliographic citations, with name and location of publishers missing for example. And especially for the Hyde book, short form citing should be done. Have a separate "Bibliography" section with the full citation, and then the individual footnotes have short citations of the form: Hyde, The Post in Grant and Farm, p. 44. That will make the references easier to look at. Wasted Time R (talk) 14:09, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Petatlán

• ... that Petatlán is home to a ecological movement led by local peasant farmers?

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 03:29, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Reims GospelThelmadatter (talk) 03:40, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Its not particularly interesting or unusual. Can you think of an alt hook?♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:07, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

You sure about that? When I think of an movement or organization related to ecology, I think Greenpeace, not rural Mexican farmers.Thelmadatter (talk) 14:26, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

ALT1 ... that the mountains of Petatlán, Guerrero, Mexico are home to a local environmental group, some members of which have been imprisoned and defended by groups such as Amnesty International?Thelmadatter (talk) 14:22, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

A better hook may be:

ALT2 ... that when Boise Cascade Corp. overcut lumber in Petatlán, Guerrero, Mexico, ecological protesters were imprisoned in an action decried by Amnesty International and Greenpeace?Georgejdorner (talk) 18:24, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 14

Irish honours system

• ... that the Republic of Ireland has no honours system, though the issue has been considered by successive governments since 1930?

• ALT1:... that the Republic of Ireland has no honours system, though the issue has been considered by successive governments since 1930?
• Reviewed: The Immortals of Meluha

5x expanded by Jnestorius (talk). Self nom at 09:54, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Comment: there was formerly article at "Irish honours system", which I moved to Comhairle na Míre Gaile and repurposed. The current "Irish honours system" is 5x the bits I refactored out from the older article. jnestorius 09:57, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Is this what was refactored?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:58, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Date, and hook verified. Length conditional on response above, but seems valid.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:13, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Pelican Bowl

• ... that in the 1970s, the Pelican Bowl was played to determine the national champions of black college football in the United States?

• Comment: This is not a self-nom. --PFHLai (talk) 06:38, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Created by Patriarca12 (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 06:38, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, and hook verified. - PM800 (talk) 08:33, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

• Comment I suggest linking to "national champions of black college football" instead of "national champions of black college football" jnestorius 13:02, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

I deliberately avoided that linking, 'coz with the Pelican Bowl actually played, the national championship was not that "mythical", going against the first sentence in the Black college football national championship article. The champions listed on that wikipage were determined by polls. --PFHLai (talk) 13:16, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

The two articles need to be integrated. I don't mean merged, but I do mean something more than giving each other a measly "See also". A black college football national championship is not by definition mythical, even if the Pelican Bowl's attempt to provide a non-mythical version ended in failure. jnestorius 14:29, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Well, as things now stand, we don't have a championship game in black or all of US college football, so the national championship is mythical. (Can I call it de facto?) I threw in a paragraph on the Black college football national championship page and added a link to the hook. Hope this helps with the integration. --PFHLai (talk) 15:30, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Fair enough, jnestorius 08:57, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Hypsibema missouriensis

• ... that bones of Hypsibema missouriensis, now the state dinosaur of Missouri, have only been found in Bollinger County, Missouri?

Created by Fetchcomms (talk). Self nom at 03:55, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

• Checked Ernest P. Goodrich (). /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 04:05, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

All DYK criteria met. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 21:54, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! I just got permission to use an image, which I have now added; to whoever puts this in the queue, I would really appreciate it if the image is used because there are essentially only two places that have a model of this species. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 02:13, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Hm, the update has been nominated for deletion on Commons, so I guess scratch that last bit :P /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 03:29, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Elmer Mitchell

• ... that Elmer Mitchell (pictured) boasts the highest winning percentage in the history of Eastern Michigan Eagles men's basketball and is considered the father of intramural sports?

Created by Paulmcdonald (talk), Cmadler (talk). Nominated by Cmadler (talk) at 18:17, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Guppy Troup (diff). cmadler (talk) 18:25, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Is there no year of birth and death? Place of birth? Sometimes that kind of information is no where to be found. It seems alright to me, and subject is notable. Billy Hathorn (talk) 21:08, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Found and added birth and death dates, and death location, as well as a little more information on his background, though I've still not found anything about where he was born or raised. Thanks, cmadler (talk) 13:24, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Stearns Bicycle

• ... that in 1899 bicycle racer Major Taylor signed a contract with Stearns Bicycle who agreed to build Taylor a revolutionary steam powered pacing tandem on which he broke the world record 1 mile (1.6 km) in 01:19 at a speed of 45.56 miles per hour (73.32 km/h)?

Created by Nconwaymicelli (talk). Self nom at 11:08, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

It's longer than 200 characters. Try shortening it. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 07:10, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

• Comment: ALT1... that in 1899 signed a contract with Stearns Bicycle who agreed to build Taylor a revolutionary steam powered pacing tandem on which he broke the world record at a speed of 45.56 miles per hour (73.32 km/h)? Nconwaymicelli (talk) 07:42, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

• It's still 32 characters too long. Why not something like -

• ... that the E. C. Stearns Bicycle Agency built bicycle racer Major Taylor a revolutionary steam powered pacing tandem on which he broke the world record at a speed of 45.56 miles per hour (73.32 km/h)?

• It avoid the (IMO) unnecessary part about the contract. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:35, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

• ALT2 sounds good. --♫ Nconwaymicelli (talk) 940, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

• I note that Major Taylor redirects to Marshall Taylor, and the article implies that he was known as Major. Hence, consider moving the article accordingly before the hook gets promoted. Schwede66 02:03, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 15

François Rochebrune

François Rochebrune

• ... that French Zouave François Rochebrune received the Legion of Honour for his participation in the Polish January Uprising?

Created by Volunteer Marek (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 02:38, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• or an alt hook

• ... that French Zouave François Rochebrune fought in the Polish January Uprising, where he created and led the Zouaves of Death unit?

How about

"... that François Rochebrune, the French commander of the Zouaves of Death, at the Battle of Grochowiska disciplined panicked Polish troops by asking them what time it was, which was the only Polish he knew?"

That's at 197 characters and it's the amusing anecdote in an otherwise tragic outcome, which is also well sourced. The only problem is that Battle of Grochowiska is a redlink but since I've been meaning to write an article on it anyway, I'll try to make it blue tonight. Volunteer Marek  02:30, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviwewed Tara (Ramayana)

Allegro (musical)

• ... that Allegro, Rodgers and Hammerstein's third musical, was called by one critic, "an out-and-out failure"?

5x expanded by Wehwalt (talk). Self nom at 13:32, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed an article here.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:40, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Gervasio

• ... that Gervasio made his first public appeareance as singer in 1965?

Created by Diego Grez (talk). Self nom at 22:29, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed #All Saints Church, Theddlethorpe Diego Grez (talk) 23:25, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Length and creation date verified. However, the Death section is uncited, and the hook is boring. I suggest ALT1: ... that Gervasio won the international competition at the 1983 Viña del Mar International Song Festival? - PM800 (talk) 15:07, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Referenced. ALT1 is better. Diego Grez (talk) 16:04, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1 good to go, AGF on Spanish source. - PM800 (talk) 21:08, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Bjorøy Tunnel

• ... that when construction of the Bjorøy Tunnel hit a section of sand, a new tunneling method had to be developed to continue?

5x expanded by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 13:22, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed St Mary's Church, Bodewryd. Arsenikk 13:31, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Cornubian batholith, Haig Fras

• ... that the Cornubian batholith and Haig Fras granite are similar in age and have the same orientation, but are separate intrusions?

Created by Mikenorton (talk). Self nom at 23:43, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Miller Reese Hutchison and Thomas Forsaith. Mikenorton (talk) 00:09, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

The Original Salty Dogs Jazz Band

• ... that after losing a job, the Salty Dogs Jazz Band would sometimes find that they had been replaced by another jazz band with the same name?

• Reviewed: Fernald Hall
• Comment: The source is a long webpage, so I'll save you some time: the hook is verifiable from the VanVorst ref in the paragraph beginning, "There began to be two different bands about this time..."

Created by Brian the Editor (talk). Self nom at 21:13, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Miguel Angel Galluzzi

• ... that Miguel Angel Galluzzi's Ducati Monster (pictured) is credited with both reviving the retro standard motorcycle and creating a new naked bike niche?

• Reviewed: David Shaw (American football)

5x expanded by Dbratland (talk). Self nom at 06:04, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
Replaced 's with {{`s}} per rule C7. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 20:27, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Club Oasis

• ... that the bandleader Spike Jones was among the hosts of the biweekly 1957-58 NBC variety show Club Oasis, set at a chic simulated nightclub?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 00:22, 16 January 2011 (UTC) Reviewed: December 2010 Gascoyne River flood

• Length and dates are fine but the hook fact as stated with both very weakly sourced (the tvguide.com text merely states "In the summer of 1958, `Club Oasis,' which ran as a biweekly series, became home to the zany antics of bandleader Spike Jones.") and not wholly accurate. There's a much firmer source in cited-elsewhere Brooks & Marsh ("During the summer of 1958 Spike Jones became the permanent star of the show and the title was changed to Club Oasis Starring Spike Jones.") that not only properly notes Jones' role in the show but also documents a title change for the series that it not currently reflected in the article. A few tweaks to the article and it will be ready. - Dravecky (talk) 17:14, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

• Also, I'm not thrilled with some of the sourcing for this article, including the "Guitars 101" message forum. Worse, you apparently didn't read past the first message or you would have seen that the episode described is not from Club Oasis but rather from a much later episode of Startime. There is an accurate description of the Club Oasis episode later in the thread. This too, needs to be fixed. - Dravecky (talk) 17:22, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Correctons made Billy Hathorn (talk) 17:32, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

The hook fact is not as it appears in the article, which merely says that the show was "most closely associated toward the end of its short run with the bandleader"--which in and of itself is not wholly accurate. The show aired for a full year and the show was renamed for Jones for the last 8 of its 24 episodes. Also, I replaced the unacceptable citation to a tripod.com site with a second cite from tv.com. This is very close now but the hook needs better crafting to match the facts of the article - Dravecky (talk) 18:31, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Wyatt Luther Nugent

• ... that Sheriff Wyatt Luther Nugent of Grant Parish, Louisiana, was slain in the line of duty in 1936 on the night of his election to a third term?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 20:55, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

• -- all reqs verified. Good job and interesting read! Regards, Lord Roem (talk) 02:41, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Elmer Mitchell

• The article is a close paraphrase of its only source. - PM800 (talk) 03:55, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

This happened in 1936, and I have no other source. I did some further rewriting. Billy Hathorn (talk) 05:34, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

• I find it very telling that you say, "This happened in 1936..." The article is supposed to be a complete biography about Nugent, and yet the whole thing just focuses on his death. Your rewrite is decent but probably not enough. In regards to other sources: the libertychapelcemetery.org site does list some more sources. At the bottom of the page, it says, "There is a book that has the history of Sheriff Nugent and his family. It can be purchased from the author, John A Chelette." That's something you might want to look into. - PM800 (talk) 22:55, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Alan Charlesworth

• ... that RAAF air cadet and Duntroon graduate Alan Charlesworth (pictured) survived a crash during training in which his flight instructor was killed?

• Reviewed: Icelandic census of 1703

Created by Ian Rose (talk). Self nom at 03:51, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, hook's ref verified. --Rosiestep (talk) 20:06, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that RAAF air cadet and Duntroon graduate Alan Charlesworth (pictured) survived a crash during flying training in which his instructor was killed?

• Very minor change that may read a bit better than the one above... Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 11:43, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

I find his other accident more interesting and less sad:

• ALT2... that RAAF Air Vice Marshal Alan Charlesworth (pictured) once survived an accident with future Governor of New South Wales Eric Woodward when their aircraft landed upside down on a fence?

--PFHLai (talk) 22:11, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 16

Boops Boops

• ... that sailormen call Boops boops the bogue?

Created by Abductive (talk). Self nom at 00:23, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Rudolf Elmer and commented on The Off Hours and Sunjeev Sahota. Abductive (reasoning) 00:24, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Rudolf Elmer

• ... that Swiss whistleblower Rudolf Elmer claims that passing secret account details to WikiLeaks is the only hope he has to let "society know what's going on" in the banking sector?

Created by Malick78 (talk). Self nom at 23:18, 21 January 2011 (ECT)

• Comment - having a few DYKs, I'll review another person's nom asap. Malick78 (talk) 22:20, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Comment, word count in hook is good, article length is good, but the language betrays a poor German to English translation. Subject seems to be marginally notable, with about one and a half events (WP:BLP1E). Abductive (reasoning) 00:20, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• I'll tweak the language a bit... only a bit is translated, however, the banner at the top was put there to encourage translation. As for notability, 10,000 hits in 6 days suggests notability. Furthermore, WikiLeaks has yet to release the material he supplied... so there'll be more coverage and more to add in a week or two. Malick78 (talk) 18:19, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Sunjeev Sahota

• ... that British author Sunjeev Sahota had not read a novel until he bought Midnight's Children in an airport at the age of 18?

Created by Cordless Larry (talk). Self nom at 11:27, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Themistokli Gërmenji. Cordless Larry (talk) 11:40, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

• Very borderline at 1508 characters, I'm surprised you can't find any more to write about him. However, yes, length, age and hook all check out. Worm 15:21, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

• Sorry, I thought it was longer than that - I must have miscalculated. There isn't a lot of material on him yet as his first novel was only published this month. I will try to expand the article though. Cordless Larry (talk) 18:14, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

• I don't see how he passes WP:AUTHOR, with only one novel and no awards. Abductive (reasoning) 02:50, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

The Bishop Revival

• ... that the Fringe episode "The Bishop Revival" was the only one to be directed by Adam Davidson?

Created by Ruby2010 talk 05:05, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

ALT 1 ... that the Nazi storyline in the Fringe episode "The Bishop Revival" was well-received by Entertainment Weekly for featuring a "good threat"?

Reviewed Orda (structure). Ruby2010 talk 05:10, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

• Going with ALT 1 hook. Verified and ready. Rcej (Robert) - talk 05:10, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Themistokli Gërmenji

• ... that Themistokli Gërmenji and his brother established the hotel in Bitolj and named it Liria (Template:Lang-en)?

Created by Antidiskriminator (talk). Self nom at 23:04, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Sopa de Caracol. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 23:37, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
• Article length is easily sufficient and the hook is verified by a reliable source (although the reference could do with a page number). The hook needs rewording, though, as it suggests that Bitola only has one hotel. Also, why does the hook use the spelling "Bitolj" when the article title is Bitola? I actually wonder whether there isn't a more interesting hook that could be used from this article? Cordless Larry (talk) 11:36, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

I think that it is better to nominate more interesting hook than to reword the existing one. Please review alternative hook below.

• ALT1:... that Themistokli Gërmenji was prefect of police of the Autonomous Albanian Republic of Korçë?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 12:03, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Antid. you haven't even added the correct deathplace. Larry please let me rewrite this with an interesting hook.--— ZjarriRrethues —  13:32, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Place of death corrected.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 13:47, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Now reduce the Republic of Korçë parts since most aren't related to him, add ref name parameters and remove the activist of the Albanian National Awakening from the article, because the largest part of his activities took place after 1912.--— ZjarriRrethues —  14:11, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

The quote from the referenced source says: hotel soon became the centre for patriotic Albanians. Here they planned the Congress of Monastir, and here they planned the four annual upprisings 1909, 1910, 1911 and 1912. All those events are the crucial parts of the Albanian National Awakening. Any further comment about the quality of the article should be written on the article talk page and marked with the appropiate tags that would prevent positive reviewing of the article until it is resolved. Otherwise someone may think that purpose of the comments is not reviewing of the hook nominated for DYK. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 14:26, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

ZjarriRrethues, are you going to suggest an alternative hook? Cordless Larry (talk) 23:50, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Tiffany Chapel

• ... that the Tiffany Chapel became accessible to the public again more than one century after its first installation at the World's Columbian Exhibition?

Created by Ekem (talk). Self nom at 21:56, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Hugh Oldham

• I wikilinked Tiffany Chapel. The paragraph under "Description" needs at least one reference (although I'd add more than just one). Once fixed, it will be good to go. Ruby2010 talk 04:41, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

• More in-line references provided.Ekem (talk) 14:35, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Perfect. Good to go. Ruby2010 talk 18:43, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1:... that despite a fire, dismantling and having parts sold off since its first installation at the 1893 World's Columbian Exposition in Chicago, the Tiffany Chapel is now open to the public again in Florida? --PFHLai (talk) 22:27, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Noah's Ark (1956 TV series)

• ... that Jack Webb, during the run of his original Dragnet TV series, also created, produced, and directed Noah's Ark, an NBC medical drama about two veterinarians?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:16, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• No issues.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 00:07, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed L'Enfant Plaza Hotel

• tv.com doesn't seem to be a very reliable source. - PM800 (talk) 14:23, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

First time I've heard that tv.com is unreliable. It has been used for many television articles on Misplaced Pages. Billy Hathorn (talk) 16:31, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• I've never heard that tv.com is unreliable, either. But it seems that anyone who registers on that site can edit it. Have any articles on DYK used this site as a reference before? Which ones? - PM800 (talk) 00:44, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Revised: ... that the 1956-1957 Jack Webb television series Noah's Ark features Paul Burke in the role of Noah McCann, a veterinarian? Billy Hathorn (talk) 16:37, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Fishery Protection Squadron

• ... that two destroyers of the Fishery Protection Squadron, commanded by a commodore aboard a fishing trawler, once thwarted an Icelandic boarding attempt?

5x expanded by Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk). Self nom at 01:29, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• If I may be so bold as to offer several suggestions to help improve the overall physical layout of the article: the table in the first section of the body would best go on the right side since, for the moment, the text seems to be hemmed in between it and the infobox on the right. Further, two quotations in the section have been separated from the rest of the body the article and place in box quotations. The typical rule is that we use a box quotation if a sentence goes over four lines, which in these two cases it doesn't. I see no harm in simply in integrating both into the text. Otherwise, the article itself looks pretty good and the content itself is quite amusing. Also, all the names of the warships must be italicized. Nice job. --Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 02:25, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm still in the process of writing the article, and I got my hands on a few newspaper articles from the 1800s regarding the 'treaty shore'. I'll add them later today, as I need to find out what the treaty shore was. That should expand the 1800s section, which will then mean I can move the table over to the right without it conflicting with the infobox. I've now integrated the text to the rest of the article. However, it'll take me a bit longer to get all the ship names italicised. I think I've got them all, but need to double-check. Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk) 12:35, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

L'Enfant Plaza Hotel

• ... that when the L'Enfant Plaza Hotel (pictured) opened in 1973 in Washington, D.C., the dedicatory festivities included a birthday party for author Anita Loos, and Carol Channing singing while seated upon a cake?

5x expanded by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 01:27, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Burrowing Owl Estate. - Tim1965 (talk) 01:36, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Fine. Billy Hathorn (talk) 03:27, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• You need a "(pictured)" for the picture. Since it was not Carol Channing's birthday, add a comma after Loos, and/or change "and" to "with". Also, Billy Hathorn: did you read the offline source? If not it's rather than . jnestorius 15:33, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

• Added the "pictured" and the comma. - Tim1965 (talk) 15:45, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Tewksbury Mills

• ... that the construction of the Tewksbury Mills would have been complemented by the construction of an interchange on Interstate 93?

• Reviewed: Coffin birth ()

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Self nom at 23:51, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

• Tewksbury Mills never existed, so the hook is just complete speculation, and kind of bland as well. The fact's source is the official website. - PM800 (talk) 03:45, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Tablas Creek Vineyard

• ... that California wine producer Tablas Creek Vineyard is the "sibling winery" of Châteauneuf-du-Pape estate Château de Beaucastel?

Created by Murgh (talk). Self nom at 21:03, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Kepler-10b

Penry v. Johnson

• ... that Justice Thomas said the U.S. Supreme Court's decision in Penry v. Johnson sent "mixed signals" to lower courts?

Created by Lord Roem (talk). Self nom at 20:41, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Ruth Cavin

• All DYK criteria met. Tag, date, size etc. Aymatth2 (talk) 00:52, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• In my view the hook is unclear as it gives no clue as to the subject matter of the case. When I read it I wasn't so much hooked as puzzled! DavidWard 13:14, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• So, here's an alternate - "... that Justice Thomas said the U.S. Supreme Court's decision on death penalty sentencing in Penry v. Johnson sent "mixed signals" to lower courts?" -- Lord Roem (talk) 05:05, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Graffiti in New York

Graffiti and street art emerged in New York as part of the Zoo York subculture in the 1970s
Add rollover text!

• ... that in recent years, graffiti in New York is slowly changing from being seen as an act of vandalism to a form of art?

Created/expanded by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 19:19, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Ksar es-Seghir. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 19:19, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

• I saw you split this out of Graffiti in the United States, is this a 5x expansion of the content moved from there? SmartSE (talk) 20:10, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

• Would be hard to count how many characters I removed or added. I can tell you it was several hours of work to restructure content, expand it and reference the article. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 18:06, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• Can you have a go? We need a 5x expansion of the original text to include it in DYK I'm afraid. SmartSE (talk) 00:24, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

• I am even afraid to think how much time I'd have to spend on checking each sentence to see what I have changed or not. I appreciate your concerns, but I am afraid I will use the time to write another DYK instead. For what it is worth, in my past experience of submitting several DYKs based on split content (which I always clearly identified as a source), I was never asked to preform such a calculation, and I assumed that split-off content is treated as new (providing it has been subject to some significant expansion and c/e). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 23:05, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that public perception of graffiti in New York is slowly changing from an act of vandalism to a form of art? (clarity, flow) - Dravecky (talk) 12:18, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Ksar es-Seghir

• ... that the Royal Moroccan Navy is constructing a new naval base at Ksar es-Seghir?

Created by Walrasiad (talk). Nominated by Cwmhiraeth (talk) at 18:34, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

• Lenght, hook, date are fine. The problem is that almost nothing but the hook has inline cites, and I believe that our modern standards require a better density of inline citations. Notified nominator and the uploader. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 19:14, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

What you say is correct but the article does clearly state its sources at the foot of the page. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:28, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, but this was the sourcing requirement of yesterday, so to speak. The standards have changed somewhat. Geschichte (talk) 21:58, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

I've given it a few more inline citations. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:07, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Better, I think this is sufficient for a DYK. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 18:43, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

George R. Salisbury, Jr.

• ... that during World War II, George R. Salisbury, Jr., later a Wyoming rancher and state representative, was a Bronze Star-winning tank commander under General George S. Patton, Jr.?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 06:06, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Obie Trotter

• Date and length checks out. However all claims for the hook needs references directly after their sentences. --Soman (talk) 12:37, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Correction made. Billy Hathorn (talk) 15:27, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Florida v. Thomas

• ... that a unanimous decision by the United States Supreme Court dismissed Florida v. Thomas just months after it heard oral argument?

Created by Lord Roem (talk). Self nom at 02:42, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Wyatt Luther Nugent

• Date, length and hook ref checks out. However, oral argument should be added into the article so that the hook sentence works out. Also, all of the sources are original documents, could other third-party sources be added? (such as coverage in news media?) --Soman (talk) 12:12, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

• Oral argument added and cite included for it. I am afraid there are no media reports that I can find, considering the decision was a few pages and was just dismissing a case. -- Lord Roem (talk) 17:30, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 17

Mitsubishi 1MF9

• ... that the Mitsubishi 1MF9 was the first Japanese-designed fighter intended for use from aircraft carriers?

• Comment: non-self-nom

Created by Nigel Ish (talk). Nominated by The Bushranger (talk) at 3:27 am, 19 January 2011, last Wednesday (4 days ago) (UTC+0)

• Length and date verified, AGF on hook's offline references. — Toдor Boжinov — 1:03 pm, 19 January 2011, last Wednesday (4 days ago) (UTC+0)

Hook is not cited anywhere in the article and only appears in the lead, but not the body. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:46, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Actually, the hook was in the first sentence of "Operational history"? I've clarifed the refs. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:57, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Northern Epirote Declaration of Independence

• ... that the Greeks living in southern Albania declared in 1914 the Independence (pictured) of Northern Epirus?

Created/expanded by CrazyMartini (talk), Alexikoua (talk). Self nom at 13:44, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Lam Chiu Ying.Alexikoua (talk) 13:47, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Cyanotoxin

• ... that toxins called cyanotoxins are produced by bacteria which float on lakes and oceans as a green scum (pictured) and can kill animals by paralysing their breathing?

5x expanded by Epipelagic (talk). Self nom at 08:51, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Walter Curtis House --Epipelagic (talk) 13:02, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Peucedanum galbanum

• ... that the surface of the South African plant Peucedanum galbanum (pictured) is covered with blister-causing toxins, and that exposure to sunlight could make the blisters worse?

Created by Discott (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 00:55, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Article creation date: Yup. Article length: OK. DYK hook length: Check. Citation supports hook: yup, as (now) edited. I like that this article is not about the U.S., Europe, or Australia.--Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 02:15, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Nordhordland Bridge, Aas-Jakobsen, Salhusfjorden

• ... that the Nordhordland Bridge (pictured), designed by Aas-Jakobsen, has no lateral anchorage because of the depth of Salhusfjorden?

Created by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 10:47, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Ashland High School (Ashland, Louisiana). Arsenikk 10:50, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

for the bridge: date, expansion and refs fine. But - not an expert in bridges - I don't find the hook statement referenced right after it is mentioned. I suggest to come up with a different hook which says something positive instead of what the bridge has not, or reference it. Also I find a different picture more appropriate to appear in small size, added. The builder and the fjord check out. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:47, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Further comment: The Fjord was misspelled as article name, changed in DYKmake, not in the heading. Would it be possible to reference (right after that is said) that the bridge is the longest such bridge in the world? Or that it is a combined cable-stayed and pontoon bridge, also remarkable? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:21, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• I've duplicated the ref, as the end-of-paragraph ref references the whole paragraph. As for the two images, the cable-stayed part is not really related to the hook, as it talks about the pontoon section, although I agree that your proposed image looks a lot better at thumbnail size. As for the hook itself, this bridge was ground-breaking technology when it was built, and still is, and the lack of lateral anchorage (in combination with the length) has made it "world famous" among civil engineers. (Btw, I had never heard of "lateral anchorage" before I wrote the article). I can propose a less technical hook. Arsenikk 23:47, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Alt ... that unlike other floating bridges of similar length, the Nordhordland Bridge (pictured), designed by Aas-Jakobsen, was not anchored to the seabed because of the depth of Salhusfjorden?

• I'm probably too tired: I find statements close to the second half of ALT1 several times, in the lead, in the specifications, in planning, in construction, but with no citation or offline. The first half of ALT1 seems to be just explanation, not part of the article, right? I agree that the pic doesn't go well with the hook, but still hope for a different one, preferably supported online. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:58, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Ashland High School (Ashland, Louisiana)

• ... that land for the defunct rural Ashland High School in Natchitoches Parish, Louisiana, was donated in 1907 by later State Senator Andrew R. Johnson?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 21:25, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Richmond Memorial Library.

• Good to go. Offline ref AGF.

La Peña Cultural Center

• ... that La Peña Cultural Center is a Chilean-American cultural center in Berkeley, California that raised $US10,000 to benefit the victims of the 2010 Chile Earthquake?
• The source for the hook says that they hoped to raise a minimum of $10,000, so conflicts with what this says. Grsz 11 00:50, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• ... that La Peña Cultural Center is a Chilean-American cultural center in Berkeley, California that hoped to raise $US10,000 to benefit the victims of the 2010 Chile Earthquake?

does that work?

Cristom Vineyards

• ... that while Oregon's Willamette Valley is known primarily for Pinot noir, Cristom Vineyards in the Eola-Amity Hills has been growing Syrah since 2002?

• Comment: Multisource hook in the Vineyards section (FN#'s 7,8 & 11) with the online San Francisco Chronicle article (FN#11) being the primary ref.

Created by Camw (talk). Nominated by Agne27 (talk) at 23:42, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Pacific Center for Human Growth

• ... that the Pacific Center for Human Growth (pictured) in Berkeley, California is a LGBT community center that was started in 1973 as a response to a "brutal gaybashing in Oakland"? Thisbites (talk) 02:20, 18 January 2011 (UTC)Can we include this picture too?Thisbites (talk) 08:22, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Created by Thisbites (talk). Self nom at 02:19, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Orda (structure)

• ... that Eurasian Steppes gave rise to several ordas, including the famous Golden Horde?

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 18:15, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• Orda (structure)

Looks good to go. I might recommend dividing the article into sections for easier reading, but that's not required for DYK. Nice work, Ruby2010 talk 05:10, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

"Ordas" is crying out for a definition in the hook. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:53, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Be my guest and propose an alt, nothing comes to my mind at the moment... --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 23:07, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Joanne Lunn

• ... that English soprano Joanne Lunn recorded Bach cantatas with the Monteverdi Choir, such as Herr, wie du willt, so schicks mit mir, BWV 73, for the Third Sunday after Epiphany?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 16:52, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• reviewed: Nienover (Queue 2) - This is about the Bach cantata, which I improved but couldn't expand 5*, suggested for January 23, the Sunday of the first performance in 1724.--Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:32, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

St Mary's Church, Pentraeth

• ... that St Mary's Church, Pentraeth, Wales (pictured), was decorated in the 18th century with paper garlands, perhaps to celebrate parishioners' weddings?

• Reviewed: Harry Bassett, Joe Daniels (horse), Springbok (horse) ()

Created by Bencherlite (talk). Self nom at 15:59, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• Sourcing, length and article look good. Hook about paper garlands is based on quite an interesting scanned book from 1786. Very nice! poroubalous (talk) 02:44, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

List of birds of Georgia (U.S. state)

• ... that over 400 species of birds (state bird, Brown Thrasher, pictured) have been recorded in the American state of Georgia?

• Reviewed: Performic acid

Created by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 07:38, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• Looks good; I modified the hook a little bit to clarify that the Brown Thrasher is the state bird. Focus (talk) 18:36, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Length OK; edited article slightly; hook fact is in ref cited.--Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 12:40, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Juniperus Capital

large tree with short trunk and green leaves

• ... that Bermuda hedge fund Juniperus Capital was named after the Juniperus bermudiana (example pictured), Bermudian cedar trees that are extremely hardy in the face of adverse conditions?

• Reviewed: Tropolis

new article self nom by --Epeefleche (talk) 04:17, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• Looks good! There is an entire page even dedicated to the hook fact as well. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 04:59, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Nicolas-Marie Songis des Courbons

• ... .. that General Nicolas-Marie Songis des Courbons (pictured) served under Napoleon I, as commander of the Grande Armée artillery, from 1805 to 1809?

• Reviewed:

Created by Alexandru Demian (talk)

Hook length, article length & date ok; hook fact accepted AGF based on offline source. Sasata (talk) 13:43, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Current nominations

Articles created/expanded on January 18

Gaunt biplane no.2

• ...that in 1911, John Gaunt's second biplane nearly crashed because a bystander bent the aircraft's elevator before a flight?

• Comment: non-self-nom

Created by TSRL (talk). Nominated by The Bushranger (talk) at 02:55, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

International Dunhuang Project

• ... that the International Dunhuang Project has made over a quarter of a million images of Silk Road manuscripts and other artefacts available online (manuscript pictured)?

• Reviewed: Chrysoperla carnea

Created by BabelStone (talk). Self nom at 20:11, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Looks excellent! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 01:13, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Samrong Sen

• ... that Samrong Sen is a prehistoric archaeological site in the Kampong Chhnang Province, Cambodia consisting of a very large fluviatile shell midden?

Created by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 17:17, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Date and length OK, hook fact referenced and verified, although rather mundane. BabelStone (talk) 19:45, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Bridge Canyon Dam

Graciela Chichilnisky

• ... that before proposing a carbon credit emissions trading market like the Kyoto Protocol, Graciela Chichilnisky earned Ph.D.s in mathematics (1971) and economics (1976) without any undergraduate study?

Created by David Eppstein (talk). Nominated by Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) at 09:52, 22 January 2011 (UTC) ,23:12, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

REVISED: I count 194 visible characters. I sourced it with in-line citations. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 23:14, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that economics professor Graciela Chichilnisky has sued her employer, Columbia University, two times? - PM800 (talk) 13:57, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

This is interesting, but sounds negative to me, which goes against the spirit of the DYK/BLP rules, imho. Are you sure that she has sued only twice, also? It would seem fair to CU/GC and also prudent to be exceptionally cautious about writing a banner about lawsuits on WP, which might expose WP to litigation or harm reputations frivolously. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 22:08, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Can you revise ALT 1 to explain that she accused professors of stealing her ideas? Can you get her age and make a box to go with the article? Interesting story. Billy Hathorn (talk) 22:05, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

I can but this imho goes directly against the criteria for DYK for living persons. Quotes in the AJHE article state that people are reluctant to talk about what happened, and afraid of getting sued, so that the events seem poorly documented. (The newspaper clippings don't meet the NYT standards of sourcing facts.) Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 22:10, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

I would comment that Chichilnisky is the unique woman listed in the article on the list of mathematical economics, and so that her achievement is even more exceptional. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 22:13, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Of course I get what you're saying about the BLP issue. ALT1 was merely a suggestion. As it is now, the original hook is too long at 221 characters. The article's length and creation date are OK, but there needs to be a citation directly after each of the hook facts. - PM800 (talk) 22:24, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• ALT 2 ... that economist Graciela Chichilnisky, who never studied as an undergraduate, proved the equivalence of Pareto optimality and dictatorial decision-making with her topological theory of social choice?

Give me 10 minutes to source this. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 23:02, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• ALT 3: ... that economist Graciela Chichilnisky, the architect of the carbon market underlying the Kyoto protocol, earned two doctorates despite having no undergraduate education?

How about this? I think it's simple and accessible, it says one of the things she's most notable for, it avoids the potential negatives of the litigation subject, and it highlights something particularly unusual about her. —David Eppstein (talk) 00:06, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

It is sourced, however, I worry that the journalists cited are somewhat like trade journalists, covering universities for university, rather than journalists; I didn't read much evidence of fact checking, apart from reports that some faculty didn't want to talk. I am uncomfortable with GC being called "the architect" when none of the WP articles call her that, particularly after I read that she claims to have introduced Hilbert spaces into economics, repeatedly. Thus, I toned down the extraordinary claim that she is THE ARCHITECT in the above, to something that is certainly true and laudable and notable (for a world-wide encyclopedia). I would be delighted to read more widely and see the most reliable sources calling her THE ARCHITECT, but I haven't seen that (yet), after lazy looking today. Honestly, Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 00:21, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

It may be an extraordinary claim, but it is almost a direct quote from The Guardian. , cited as a source in the article. —David Eppstein (talk) 00:34, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• ALT 3a: ... that economist Graciela Chichilnisky, an architect of carbon markets like the market underlying the Kyoto protocol, earned two doctorates despite having never studied as an undergraduate?

I would guess that she probably had some (accelerated) undergraduate education, but was enrolled as a Ph.D. student, because the university bureaucracy has fewer rules, I would guess. She never enrolled/matriculated as an undergraduate student. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 00:26, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Synthesis: ... that before proposing a carbon emissions trading market like the Kyoto Protocol, Graciela Chichilnisky earned Ph.D.s in mathematics and economics without any undergraduate study?

Would this work?

Motivation: DYK degenerates will give the world these DYK facts:

* ... that German pornographic actress Sexy Cora was hospitalized in 2009 after trying to break the world record for the number of fellatios performed in one day?

* ALT 2: that German pornographic actress Sexy Cora died in January 2011 after suffering a heart attack during a breast enlargement surgery at a plastic surgery clinic in Hamburg?

Given this forthcoming obscenity about fellatio records and boob-job death, I would like my nieces to read about a mathematical economist working on serious problems. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 00:36, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Comment - not uninvolved in this but:

• Original - bit clumsy in wording
• ALT1 - unrepresentative from the perspective of BLP and unnecessarily sensationalistic (as opposed to "hooky")
• ALT2 - representative and actually quite important but not "hooky" and the average reader will be lost
• ALT3 - in the right direction but I would use a word other than "architect". Her theoretical work was important to it but perhaps not decisive. Also "no undergraduate education" may be not 100% true.
• ALT3a - better but still has the "architect" in it.
• Synthesis - almost there

How about: "... that the economist Graciela Chichilnisky, who developed the idea of carbon credit trading, obtained her Ph.D.s in mathematics and economics without ever studying as an undergraduate?"

That clocks in at 188 characters and has all the important stuff in it. Volunteer Marek  00:51, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

I like it, all except the ending, which needs more power: Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 00:54, 23 January 2011 (UTC) ?

"Without ever studying as an undergraduate"

Bring back Kyoto! We want readers! Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 01:01, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

"... that the economist Graciela Chichilnisky, who proposed the Kyoto Protocol's market for carbon credit trading, obtained her Ph.D.s in mathematics and economics without ever studying as an undergraduate?"

192 characters Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 01:07, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Grammar correction:

"... that Graciela Chichilnisky, who proposed the Kyoto Protocol's market for carbon credit trading, obtained her Ph.D.s in mathematics and economics without ever having been an undergraduate?"

the count is 181 characters

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Mmmm... I think this may be one of those cases where a hook slightly over 200 chars should be allowed. Part of the problem is that her name is long so it'll take up many characters. Then we need "Kyoto Protocol" in there and "carbon credit trading" and "mathematics" and "economics" and "undergraduate". Add all that up and there isn't much room left to be articulate and hooky (*draws an indifference curve between "hookiness" and "hook length" mentally*). And as Kiefer says this is a much more serious topic than the, uh..., average article on notable women that gets featured on Misplaced Pages's main page (I just looked at DYKSTATS and it's a bit troubling how many instances the word "porn" gets when you search for it there). Can we have a go ahead?

Due to edit conflict I just saw the latest proposal - happy with that too. Volunteer Marek  01:14, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Sorry about edit conflicts. It's your decision, but I believe that this is very polished and a very good hook, which will have at least 3000 readers, and I'll guess many more. I'll cheer your decision to send it foreword! Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 01:19, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

People are reading pornography, and I suppose they can read about here. However, (apparently) that woman was so identified by being desired in such a self-destructive and degrading manner, that healthy persons must feel revulsion. Those DYKs are ghoulish and irresponsible. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 01:24, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Howie Morenz Memorial Game

• ... that a Memorial All-Star Game was held in 1937 to raise money for the family of Howie Morenz, who was said to have died of a broken heart on the belief a broken leg had ended his hockey career??

Created by Resolute (talk). Self nom at 01:16, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Saint Usuge Spaniel. Resolute 01:16, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Comment: I found the wikilinking misleading; I assumed it was about something called "Memorial All-Star Game". I suggest this tweak:

• ... that a memorial all-star game was held in 1937 to raise money for the family of Howie Morenz, who was said to have died of a broken heart in the belief a broken leg had ended his hockey career??

Maybe capitalize "All-Star", but not the rest. jnestorius 21:50, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

2011 Magallanes protests

• ... that two women were killed amidst the 2011 Magallanes, Chile protests (flag supporting the protests pictured)?

Created by Diego Grez (talk). Self nom at 01:12, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed #Cedric Kushner Promotions, Ltd. v. King Diego Grez (talk) 01:17, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
  • Spanish language source good. Grsz 11 00:54, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Let's wait a few days before putting this on MainPage. If the protests flare up again, this may end up on ITN. I don't think it's a good idea to put the same article on MainPage twice within only a few days. A delay may give us a chance for a more interesting hook, too. --PFHLai (talk) 22:53, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Albanian Vilayet

• ... that claims to unite the Ottoman vilayets of Kosovo, Shkoder, Monastir and Ioaninna into one, the Albanian Vilayet, often included the Salonika Vilayet too?

Created by Antidiskriminator (talk). Self nom at 20:56, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Safe Road Trains for the Environment --Antidiskriminator (talk) 21:02, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

• Misleading language. The intro in particular makes it sounds as if the vilayet did actually exist as a formal administrative division of the Ottoman Empire. Did it really? The last two paragraphs (those in Albanian Declaration of Independence and Treaties of London and Bucharest) are uncited. Needs a good copyedit as well, particular with regard to the use of definite and indefinite articles. And lastly, this must be an error in your source, but I'm pretty sure pre-Balkan War Bulgarian claims included the southern Kosovo Vilayet as well (the vilayet's Macedonian parts with Skopje and the like). — Toдor Boжinov — 22:18, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Thank you for your comment. You are right. I will resolve first three issues of your comment asap (the misleading language concerning the existance of the vilayet in the intro, referencing the last two paragraphs and copyedit (particular with regard to the use of definite and indefinite articles, feel free to help with copy editing)). You are right about the last issue about pre-Balkan War Bulgarian claims and obvious mistake in the source, so I already corrected it. As soon as I resolve first three issues I will write a comment here.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 22:38, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks for your understanding. You could post on my talk when done, I'd be glad to re-review! — Toдor Boжinov — 08:32, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• I took care about referencing the last paragraphs of the article and mistake about Bulgaria and its territorial claims. Another user took care about the copyediting and improving the misleading language of the lede (diffs (Thanks Cplakidas!)). I believe that nomination is ready for re-review.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 13:12, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• I'm content with the improvements to the article (especially the projected vilayet thing) and I can now verify it. Thanks for your work! — Toдor Boжinov — 17:49, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

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• ... that Ejin Horo Qi, in China, is known as the location of the Mausoleum of Genghis Khan(pictured)?

• ALT1:... that sections of a village in Ejin Horo Qi, China, began caving in, and the residents had to be re-located to a planned community?
• Comment: 2nd DYK nomination

5x expanded by Boneyard90 (talk). Self nom at 17:09, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

• Article has not been expanded five-fold (started at 1186, now 3700). Arsenikk 08:29, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Earnest Elmo Calkins

• ... that Earnest Elmo Calkins, although deaf, pioneered the use of art in ads (pictured), the soft sell, and the idea of encouraging consumption through consumer engineering and planned obsolescence?

• ALT1:... that Earnest Elmo Calkins, although deaf, pioneered the use of art in ads like those (pictured) for the R&G Corset Company, the soft sell, and encouraged consumption and planned obsolescence?

The first advertisement to feature Phoebe Snow

• ALT2:... that Earnest Elmo Calkins, although deaf, pioneered use of a live model to create a fictional character in ads (pictured), the soft sell, and encouraged consumption and planned obsolescence?

5x expanded by Btphelps (talk). Self nom at 08:39, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

• I fixed the hooks? and ... I cannot find the article? Victuallers (talk) 19:33, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Somebody typoed? It is Earnest Elmo Calkins. betsythedevine (talk) 19:44, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

• Comment: His being deaf had little to do with his pioneering work, so I'd suggest leaving that part off the hook. --PFHLai (talk) 02:18, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
• Agree. ("...although blind..." would be noteworthy) Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 02:23, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Wainwright Tomb

• ... that the Wainwright Tomb (pictured) has been described as "the most sensitive and the most graceful" of the tombs designed by noted architect Louis Sullivan?

Created by Poroubalous (talk). Self nom at 02:35, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed St Mary's Church, Pentraeth poroubalous (talk) 02:46, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, hook's ref verified. --Rosiestep (talk) 05:59, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Weather ship

• ... that the recall of a weather ship (example pictured) for budgetary reasons was blamed for the minimal warning given in advance of the Great Storm of 1987 for Great Britain?

5x expanded by Thegreatdr (talk). Self nom at 22:01, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Katie Morag
• There is no link to this assertion at Great Storm of 1987--Wetman (talk) 09:45, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• It is within the Criticism of the MetOffice section. I added the line and ref to that article as well several days ago. Thegreatdr (talk) 18:10, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

MickMacNee (talk) 20:29, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Vought XSB3U

• ... that the Vought XSB3U (pictured) was designed as a result of the U.S. Navy's reluctance to embrace the monoplane for carrier operations?

• Reviewed: Bacon ice cream

Created by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 21:01, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

• Timespan, length, reference is good.. though I read it to infer that the abovementioned reluctance is specifically concerning the suitability of the monoplane for aircraft carrier operations. Isn't this an important context to include? deMURGH 22:25, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
  • Simple enough to add "for use on aircraft carriers" to the end of the hook. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:29, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
    • Added "for carrier operations", how's that? - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 03:44, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Director of Revenue of Mo. v. CoBank ACB

• ... that the U.S. Supreme Court said Congress did not exempt certain federal banks from state taxes in Director of Revenue of Mo. v. CoBank ACB notwithstanding the famous decision in McCulloch?

Created by Lord Roem (talk). Self nom at 20:28, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Bloody Saturday (photograph)

• New article, meets size requirement, neutral, and source checks out. – VisionHolder « talk » 23:17, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Bloody Saturday (photograph)

• ... that Life magazine estimated 136 million people saw the photograph "Bloody Saturday" (detail pictured) after the August 1937 bombing of Shanghai?

Created by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 19:47, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Sotra Bridge. Binksternet (talk) 19:58, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

• - all good. -- Lord Roem (talk) 20:28, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Miami Project to Cure Paralysis

• ... that the Miami Project to Cure Paralysis completed a clinical trial to test whether hypothermia (cooling) within the first few hours of a traumatic spinal cord or brain injury makes a difference in the severity of injury?

• Reviewed: 3rd nom, exempt

5x expanded by Racepacket (talk). Self nom at 23:49, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

• Has not been expanded 5x. The hook is fine and its source checks out, however. Right now the article is at 4,094 characters, and prior to editing it was at 1,076. Jrcla2 (talk) 00:43, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
  • Question for other DYK reviewers – I'm still new at reviewing DYK noms, and I came to the determination that this was not 5x expanded by pasting "javascript:importScript('User:Shubinator/DYKcheck.js'); dykCheck();" into the URL while on the article in question. It told me that it was not 5x expanded. However, User:Racepacket asked me whether one can judge article expansion based on the bytes length in the article's edit history. As I am still new at this, can someone hop in and tell me whether this nomination was or wasn't 5x expanded, and why? Jrcla2 (talk) 02:18, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

• The article has not been 5x expanded because expansion is based on characters of prose, not bytes. References and infoboxes are not included in prose (see the DYK rules here and here). By my count, the article has now been expanded from 1083 to 4314 characters in the past five days. - PM800 (talk) 02:54, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

• That you for the clarification. I believe the article passes under either measure now. Racepacket (talk) 03:25, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks for the explanation. It was updated even more and is all good now. Jrcla2 (talk) 03:38, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Mayo v. United States

• ... that the Mayo Clinic argued in Mayo v. United States that residents, who work up to 80 hours a week and are paid approximately $50,000 a year, should not be considered employees but students instead?

• Reviewed: Chinatown, St. Louis
• Comment: Please inform me on my talk page if you have any problems with the hook or the article. NW (Talk) 01:06, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Created by NuclearWarfare (talk). Self nom at 01:05, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Could also say "are paid over $40,000 a year" to be less POV, but everything is fine with length, sourcing, and hook. MBisanz 02:21, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

That would be fine with me. Could someone please ping me on my talk page when this is moved to the Prep Area/the Queue? NW (Talk) 03:15, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

I looked at this article after I saw a question about POV problems on a talk page... I have read / reviewed the article and think it is balanced and main-page worthy. I also think the hook is fine, though a suggested tweak would be to change "residents" to "medical residents". The length could also be reduced by redrafting to something like "... that the Mayo Clinic argued in Mayo v. United States that medical residents (paid approximately $50,000 a year and working up to 80 hours a week) should be considered students instead of employees?" EdChem (talk) 20:39, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure if the verb tenses are right there, but my grammar isn't that great. That sounds fine though; thanks for the review! NW (Talk) 01:11, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 19

Brown Betty (Fringe)

• ... that during their "Fox Rocks" campaign, Fox Broadcasting Network requested the Fringe episode Brown Betty incorporate musical elements?

Created by Ruby2010 talk 05:55, 22 January 2011 (UTC) (UTC)

ALT1: ... that the Fringe episode Brown Betty was inspired by The Princess Bride?

Reviewed Beyond the First Amendment. Ruby2010 talk 06:02, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Looks solid. I prefer ALT1 myself. NW (Talk) 03:05, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

O holder Tag, erwünschte Zeit, BWV 210, O angenehme Melodei, BWV 210a

• ... that German musicologist Alexander Ferdinand Grychtolik reconstructed Bach's homage cantata O angenehme Melodei, BWV 210a, from Bach's wedding cantata O holder Tag, erwünschte Zeit, BWV 210?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 12:41, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• reviewed Khamsa of Nizami (British Library, Or. 12208) (Queue 4) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:20, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
• reviewed also 3times hook of #Nordhordland Bridge, Aas-Jakobsen, Salhusfjorden --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:50, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Heitz Wine Cellars‎

• ... that Joe Heitz of California wine producer Heitz Wine Cellars‎ is considered the first in the U.S. to champion single vineyard designated wine?

5x expanded by Murgh (talk). Self nom at 22:13, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Vought XSB3U

• Verified fact, source, and length. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 00:57, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Agree with the approval. Should "single vineyard" or "single vineyard designated" link to Vineyard designated wine as that is more specific and more relevant to the hook? Camw (talk) 04:25, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Good call. Done. deMURGH 08:10, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Cedric Kushner Promotions, Ltd. v. King

• ... that boxing promoter Don King was the subject of a U.S. Supreme Court decision in Cedric Kushner Promotions, Ltd. v. King?

Created by Lord Roem (talk). Self nom at 22:12, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

• Alright! Diego Grez (talk) 01:15, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Minuscule 817

Diva Starz: Mall Mania

• ... that an 11 year old girl beat the video game Diva Starz: Mall Mania in 42 minutes?

• Reviewed: Greece in the Eurovision Song Contest 2011

Created by Nomader (talk). Self nom at 21:28, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

• : 2303 characters, minus footnotes and section headers, created on January 19, DYK fact checks out and is footnoted in article. Roger. Go. IvoShandor (talk) 00:44, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Minuscule 817 (Gregory-Aland)

• ... that minuscule 817 was used by Erasmus in his Novum Instrumentum omne?

• Reviewed: Beaver Hills (Alberta) and several other articles.

Created by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 19:03, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

• - barely meets size reqs but beyond that good. -- Lord Roem (talk) 22:08, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

There's a footnote for Eramus receiving the document, but not for using it in any way. So what did Eramus use it for? Please clarify. --PFHLai (talk) 01:16, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Ruby Buckton

• ... that Rebecca Breeds' Home and Away character Ruby Buckton will begin a relationship with Romeo Smith, played by Breeds' real life partner, Luke Mitchell?

• Reviewed: Hughes Airwest Flight 706

5x expanded by Raintheone (talk). Self nom at 22:45, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Hughes Airwest Flight 706

• ... that, following the collision of Hughes Airwest Flight 706 (pictured) with a Marine Corps F-4B Phantom II, the US Armed Forces required military aircraft to obey civilian air traffic controllers?

• Reviewed: Heitz Wine Cellars

5x expanded by Mukkakukaku (talk). Self nom at 01:24, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Verified. Good length, meets requirements.RAIN..the..ONE 01:44, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

2011 Spokane bombing attempt

• ... that one of the t-shirts found in a backpack bomb in Spokane referred to a play put on by high school students in Chewelah, Washington?

Created by Stonemason89 (talk). Self nom at 17:02, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

I reviewed Bridge No. L-5573. Stonemason89 (talk) 17:02, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Verified length, date, and online sources.--Bkwillwm (talk) 20:06, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 20

I.S.T. XL-14 Maya

• ...that the I.S.T. XL-14 Maya, a light aircraft, was constructed primarily from woven bamboo?

• Comment: non-self-nom

Created by TSRL (talk). Nominated by The Bushranger (talk) at 03:08, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Thomas-Morse R-5

• ...that both Thomas-Morse R-5s (one pictued) competed in the 1922 Pulitzer Trophy Race, but placed last among aircraft that completed the event?

• Comment: non-self-nom

Created by Nigel Ish (talk). Nominated by The Bushranger (talk) at 03:01, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Go Big or Go Home

• ... that "Go Big or Go Home", the third season premiere of Parks and Recreation, was filmed immediately after the second season ended due to actress Amy Poehler's pregnancy, but was still delayed eight months by NBC?

Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self nom at 08:13, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• ALT 1 ... that the Parks and Recreation third season premiere "Go Big or Go Home" was filmed immediately after the second season ended due to actress Amy Poehler's pregnancy? Rcej (Robert) - talk 09:07, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
  • Is acceptable, although I was hoping to include the fact that it got delayed anyway, just because it was so unfortunate given they went through all the trouble of pre-taping it. — Hunter Kahn 15:08, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Murder of Anni Dewani

• ... that Anni Dewani was a Swedish woman who was kidnapped and murdered during her honeymoon in Cape Town, South Africa?

BabbaQ (talk) 16:04, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, and hook verified. Trident13 wrote the article, so I corrected the DYK credits. - PM800 (talk) 19:44, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

OK, thanks.--BabbaQ (talk) 19:57, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Prince Sozisa Dlamini

• ... that Prince Sozisa became the 'Authorised Person' of Swaziland (flag pictured) after the death of King Sobhuza II?

• Reviewed: The Age of Empire: 1875-1914

Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Self nom at 06:06, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Verified and ready! Rcej (Robert) - talk 09:32, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Edward Stevens (general)

• ... that when the troops in front of his soldiers broke and fled at the Battle of Guilford Court House, General Edward Stevens told his brigade that the retreat was part of the battle plan?

Created by Bkwillwm (talk). Self nom at 04:59, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Date and length verified, off-line hook reference accepted in good faith. — Hunter Kahn 08:13, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• I am adding a link to the reference. The hook is cited here--Bkwillwm (talk) 20:15, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
• I verified 2011 Spokane bombing attempt under January 19.--Bkwillwm (talk) 20:17, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Stone Jam

• ... that Stone Jam was Slave's second album to be certified Gold and was named by Jam-Master Jay of Run–D.M.C. as one of his favorite albums?

Created by J04n (talk). Self nom at 02:45, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• reviewed Irving Leonard (accountant) J04n(talk page) 02:47, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
• Date, length, and hook verified. Jujutacular  04:34, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Alvin Young

• ... that basketball player Alvin Young got cut from his high school team every single year, yet went on to lead NCAA Division I in scoring in college?

• Reviewed: Country Strong (song)

Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 02:08, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, and sources checked. - PM800 (talk) 02:58, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Glischrochilus

• ... that picnic beetles (example pictured) are attracted to beer?

Created by Obsidian Soul (talk). Nominated by Smartse (talk) at 01:02, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• The beer attraction is single-sourced to website "Dr. Bug" and though the nickname "Beer bug" is in the lead, their attraction to beer is not directly mentioned there but in a list embedded in the article. More direct phrasing related to the hook by a slight re-wording of the lead, direct explanation in the article body and preferably one other authoritative source would make this a credible DYK. I note, however, that many insects are known to be attracted to beer, so the hook might be better phrased as "... that picnic beetles are commonly known as beer bugs due to their attraction to beer?". Otherwise the DYK criteria are met. Fæ (talk) 14:33, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Crap, I should have checked the sources before... Looking at it in the cold light of day, neither refs 7 or 8 are reliable and I can't find anything better unfortunately. I'll drop the author a note to see if they can find anything more reliable, but unfortunately it looks as if this might need to be withdrawn. Thanks for the review anyway. SmartSE (talk) 15:11, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Douglas XCG-17

• ... that the Douglas XCG-17 glider (pictured) was converted from a C-47 transport that had originally flown for Northwest Airlines?

• Reviewed: Safe Road Trains for the Environment and Stad Ship Tunnel

Created by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 23:23, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length, hook ref, and image verified. For future submissions with images, I recommend including links to the webpage using the image (or other version URLs) instead of just the bare image URL for easier verification of the source; please check the updates in Commons to see what I mean. KimChee (talk) 05:49, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Will do. Thanks! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 05:53, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Bridge No. L-5573

• ... that the closure of the Clinton Falls Bridge (pictured) in its 100th year led local residents to successfully push for its historic preservation?

Created by Bobak (talk). Self nom at 19:31, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Booth v. Churner. --Bobak (talk) 19:33, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Looks good. Stonemason89 (talk) 16:59, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Booth v. Churner

• ... that over 30 U.S. states asked the United States Supreme Court to hear the case Booth v. Churner?

Created by Lord Roem (talk). Self nom at 18:22, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

I reviewed Francesco Nullo. - Lord Roem (talk)

• Cleared. As an attorney I wasn't sure if the number of amici curiae was surprising, but I also readily admit that my view is biased and I think most would find that hook interesting (and I still do myself). --Bobak (talk) 19:21, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Storfjord Bridge

• ... that if built, the Storfjord Bridge would have the longest span of any suspension bridge in the world?

Created by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 11:52, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed WePay. Arsenikk 11:59, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Article is new & suitable length. I am unable to ascertain whether the Norwegian reference given at the end of the paragraph supports the "longest" claim. (also I'm not sure "bypassing" is the right word - perhaps "surpassing").— Rod 15:37, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Hook ref checked out OK. I've made the suggested change to surpassing. Mikenorton (talk) 21:48, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

I suggest "if built according to current/proposed plans..." --PFHLai (talk) 01:55, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Stad Ship Tunnel

• ... that the Stad Ship Tunnel would allow ships along the Norwegian coast to bypass Stad, one of the most dangerous sections of the coast?

Created by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 08:22, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Ejin Horo Banner. Arsenikk 08:30, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• I don't think this is a good hook because there is no tunnel yet. What if it isn't built? - PM800 (talk) 21:30, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• The hook is rather catchy, and does not violate the DYK guidelines, nor does the article violate WP:CRYSTAL. The hook clearly states "if built", so I have a hard time seeing why it is not appropriate. Arsenikk 22:16, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• It violates this guideline: "The hook should refer to established facts that are not likely to change, and should be relevant for more than just novelty or newness." This hook is not an established fact because the tunnel might be built, or it might not be. - PM800 (talk) 22:25, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Projects that are not yet built have been run on DYK before. The guidelines are just that - guidelines - not hard-and-fast rules. The hook and article meet all DYK standards. The "established fact that is not likely to change" that, if built, the tunnel would allow ships to bypass the peninsula - whether the tunnel is built or not does not affect that fact either way. If the tunnel is not built, there won't be a magical change in reality that would prevent ships from using a tunnel to use the bypass if one was; that fact remains constant regardless of the result of the particular project. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:32, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• If the tunnel is built, then the current wording would no longer make sense, but whatever. I was just asking a question. And the hook does violate the DYK guidelines, even though Arsenikk claimed that it doesn't. - PM800 (talk) 00:23, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• No worries. IMHO, it doesn't, but just removing "if built" should remove the controversy. I've tweaked the hook accordingly. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 00:30, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

I suggest "if built according to current/proposed plans..." --PFHLai (talk) 01:55, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

André Duchesne (musician), Les 4 Guitaristes de l'Apocalypso-Bar

• ... that André Duchesne's group, Les 4 Guitaristes de l'Apocalypso-Bar (The 4 Guitarists of the Apocalypso Bar) was billed as a band from post-apocalypse Canada "inspired by the ghost of Jimi Hendrix"?

Created by Bruce1ee (talk). Self nom at 08:19, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Comment: Reviewed Malosco and Es Demasiado Tarde. —Bruce1ee 09:07, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Rizal Day

• ... that Philippine town of Daet, Camarines Norte was the first place to celebrate Rizal Day with its construction of the first Rizal monument (pictured)?

Created/expanded by Howard the Duck (talk). Self nom at 05:42, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Request: I suggest this appear either on June 19 (Rizal's birth), December 30 (Rizal's execution) or any date from June 15-24 (Daet's Pineapple Festival). –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 05:46, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
• Size and date are fine. However, the hook is unreferenced. There is a reference at the end of a paragraph containing the hook, several sentences in - this is unsatisfactory. Ideally, each sentence should be referenced; at the very least - the hook one should be. The problem is fixable, and once this is solved the article should be a "go" for DYKing. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 05:54, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Please see references nos. 1 and 2. All paragraphs are referenced. It'll be pretty hard to read that thing when every sentence, even the hook, has a citation. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 05:57, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• I don't see why. On the other hand, in the case only a para has a ref, it is impossible to trust anything but the last sentence. Consider what will happen when somebody adds more content to the middle, or moves the current one around. I don't think an article with any unreferenced sentence can become a FA, and GA and DYKs require them for most sentences those days, too. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 07:07, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• You see, that only works if each sentence has a different reference than the previous one (such as FAs and some GAs). If I'd be reusing those two references on every sentence, it's repetitive and unsightly. Where's the DYK rule that every sentence has to be cited? The only relevant rule is rule D2 and it doesn't mention citing every sentence, especially if the entire paragraph is referenced on that/those reference/s.–HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 07:30, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Just for the heck of it, I did just that, citing every sentence in the first section, and it now looks unsightly with those repetitive after every sentence. I know we should be citing and stuff, but this is not the way to do it if there are only a few references. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 07:35, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks. One gets used to that after a while, it is a wiki-necessity. I also asked for clarification of inline citations and DYK rules here. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 08:01, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Common Schools Act of 1871. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 06:00, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Common Schools Act of 1871

• ... that controversy over New Brunswick's Common Schools Act of 1871 resulted in two deaths in the town of Caraquet?

• Reviewed: Jared Lee Loughner

5x expanded by DustFormsWords (talk). Self nom at 05:15, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Length and hook are fine, but there are a couple of unreferenced paragraphs, particularly in the "New Brunswick education pre-1871" section. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 05:59, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• (Fixed) You caught me mid-expansion. The article now has at least one citation per paragraph. - DustFormsWords (talk) 22:44, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• good to go –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 01:15, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Brent Knoll Camp

• ... that Brent Knoll Camp (pictured) on the Somerset Levels was used for military purposes in the Iron Age and again in World War II?

• Reviewed: Storfjord Bridge

Created by Rodw (talk). Self nom at 15:46, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, hook ref check out. poroubalous (talk) 20:59, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Clive Franklyn Collett

• ... that in January 1917, New Zealander Clive Franklyn Collett was the first British or Commonwealth military pilot to parachute from an airplane?

This is a self-nomination.

I had problems finding an unreviewed hook. However, I wrote an alternative hook for Petatlán, and previously reviewed Triple H and a couple of other article hooks in December.

Georgejdorner (talk) 18:56, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Date, size, refs all check out - good to go! The hook itself could use an inlink or two more... --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 05:45, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 21

Bridge Canyon Dam

• ... that the proposed Bridge Canyon Dam would flood Lava Falls, one of the most spectacular rapids on the Colorado River?

Created by Shannon1 (talk). Nominated by Pepper (talk) at 21:02, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date verified. Hook's offline ref accepted AGF. --Rosiestep (talk) 21:31, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Tweaked the hook for readability. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 21:42, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Chrysoperla carnea

• ... that the larvae of the common green lacewing, Chrysoperla carnea, (pictured) consume large numbers of aphids, but when food is scarce turn cannibal and feed on each other?

• Reviewed: Colonel Joseph Barker House

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self nom at 18:35, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Nice article. Length and date OK; hook fact referenced and verified, and quite interesting; picture is under a suitable licence on Commons. I made some minor changes to the hook (changed 'and' to 'but'). BabelStone (talk) 19:58, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

A Star Is Born (2012 film)

• ... that A Star Is Born will be the fourth remake of the film?

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 15:34, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Irish honours system (Jan 14)--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:15, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Give me 48 hours to do a review.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:36, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Church of SS Peter and Paul, Istanbul

• ... that the Church of SS Peter and Paul is one of only three surviving Medieval Latin churches in Galata, Istanbul?

Created by Kebeta (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 13:49, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed:Mikulovská wine♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:53, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• The article has just 1259 characters of prose. - PM800 (talk) 14:57, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

International Commission of Control

• ... that International Commission of Control, established on October 15, 1913 to assume the administration of Albania, was composed of the representatives of each Great Power and one Albanian?

• Comment: Reviewed Pseudobiceros bedfordi

Created by Antidiskriminator (talk). Self nom at 09:45, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Repertoire of contention

• ... that repertoires of contention slowly change over time, and include such concepts as rough music, sit-ins and hactivism?

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 03:17, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Olov Janse

Beyond the First Amendment

• ... that the book Beyond the First Amendment argues freedom of speech on the Internet is not easily addressed by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution?

Created by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 03:10, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Note: I reviewed Werner Neumann, Bach-Archiv Leipzig. Thank you, -- Cirt (talk) 03:10, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Looks good to me. Nice work, Ruby2010 talk 06:01, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Mikulovská wine

• ... that wine historians theorize that, during the Roman occupation of what is now Moravia, Grüner Veltliner and Welschriesling may have been introduced to the Czech wine region of Mikulovská?

• Comment: Ref in History section (FN#3) Bloom.

Created by Janeverston (talk). Nominated by Agne27 (talk) at 07:41, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Off-line book source accepted in good faith.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:52, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

B&B Complex Fires

• ... that the two largest Rocky Mountain Douglas-fir trees in the United States survived the B&B Complex Fires (pictured) that burned 90,769 acres (367.33 km) of forest in the Cascade Range of Oregon?

Created/expanded by Orygun (talk). Self nom at 00:25, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Date and length verified. The identity of the photographer checks out as a member of the U.S. Forest Service. However, page 63 of the first reference states the final acreage of the fire as 91,915. Any reason for the discrepancy? KimChee (talk) 11:31, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Ref 1 is titled B&B Complex; however, it is actually a fire investigation briefing for 5 fires--the 2 B&B fires plus 3 other smaller fires. Am not positive, but the difference between the 90,769 acres cited on the official Deschutes National Forest web-page (Ref 3) and 91, 915 number in Ref 1 may be that the acreage of the 3 smaller fires was added to the B&B acreage. It is worth noting that the acreage numbers inside the investigation briefing don’t add up to the total on page 63 so there's definitely something that was conveyed verbally during the investigator’s presentation that is missing from the charts alone. As a result, I went with the 90,769 number shown on the Deschutes NF web-page which is also the total acreage reported in the last local news release made by the interagency fire management team on 25 Sep 03. In any case, pinning down the exact acreage on large wildfires is pretty hard to do (e.g. do you go with fire line perimeter or use aerial photos to try to determine actual burn area; do you subtract acreage of small unburned islands within the fire line or not, etc). Bottomline--I went with number from official Deschute NF web-page since it seemed to be most authoritative source.--Orygun (talk) 23:47, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• The other ref (3) used for the hook checks out. All good to go. Thank you for a reasonable explanation in more detail than I expected. :) KimChee (talk) 00:50, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

03:34: Earthquake in Chile

• ... that the Chilean movie, 03:34: Earthquake in Chile, will narrate three different stories, based on the events that occurred after the 2010 Chile earthquake (earthquake, and tsunami damage in Pichilemu pictured)?

Created by Diego Grez (talk). Self nom at 23:12, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed #? Nycticebus linglom Diego Grez (talk) 23:17, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length, and image check out. However, there are entire paragraphs of unsourced material in the article. KimChee (talk) 12:10, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Film plot summaries don't need to be cited (D2). - PM800 (talk) 12:22, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• I was going to let that slide, but the only ref in the plot section appears to be an expired link. If this movie was already out, I would accept the summary in good faith, but the trailer has not given me as much information as I see in the article. KimChee (talk) 12:41, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Fixed the reference in the plot section (it was not dead, there were some weird characters in the URL), and added a further one. Diego Grez (talk) 16:00, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Looks good now. KimChee (talk) 16:56, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Costa Grande of Guerrero

• ... that despite being home to Zihuatanejo and Ixtapa and neighbor to Acapulco, most of Guerrero's "Big Coast" lacks significant tourism infrastructure?

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 21:42, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Winnington Hall

? Nycticebus linglom

• ... that the fossil primate ? Nycticebus linglom is known from a single tooth, which is said to be the smallest known prosimian molar?

• Reviewed: Brattle Street (Cambridge, Massachusetts)

Created by Ucucha (talk). Self nom at 20:53, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• What a great hook! I was looking for an article to review and thought this one sounded great -- except then I noticed you just reviewed my article, so maybe that would be a COI. Congrats on getting confirmed already anyway. betsythedevine (talk) 00:31, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Good enough. Diego Grez (talk) 23:16, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Winnington Hall

• ... that when Winnington Hall in Cheshire was used as a girls' finishing school in the 19th century, it was visited by Sir Charles Hallé and John Ruskin?

• ALT1:... that in 1872 Winnington Hall in Cheshire was bought by John Brunner and Ludwig Mond to build a chemical factory in the grounds?
• ALT2:... that Winnington Hall in Cheshire, once the home of John Brunner and Ludwig Mond, has been divided into over 40 offices?
• Reviewed: Homer G. Phillips Hospital

5x expanded by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 20:19, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• for the original "girls school" hook. ALT2 and ALT3 seem problematic as they depending on questionable sources.Thelmadatter (talk) 21:51, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Gone (Nelly song)

• ... that "Gone," the 2011 single by Nelly and Kelly Rowland, is a sequal to the duo's 2002 single "Dilemma"?

Created by Lil-unique1 (talk). Self nom at 19:35, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Note, it is very important that the article history of this song is not confused. The page was created by me on January 3, 2011 as a redirect by me. It was histomerged on January 21, 2011 by User:AnemoneProjectors, as seen here and here at my request. Thus edits taking place between January 5 and January 21 took place in my sandbox. I was not sure whether to nominate as 5× expansion or a newly created article. Either way the expansion from redirect (17kb) to current state (12, 147kb) is vast. I hope that clears things up a little. If not leave me a note on my talk page. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 19:35, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

World-system

• ... that throughout history, there have been periods where multiple world-systems coexisted with one another?

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 19:23, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed George Durning. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 19:23, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Somewhat weak on the sourcing (some of the text is not cited, and there are no page numbers for citation #3), but information is solid enough that I'm willing to let this go. No problem with the sources, and the date and length and hook are all good. Nyttend (talk) 05:13, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Sexy Cora

• ... that German pornographic actress Sexy Cora was hospitalized in 2009 after trying to break the world record for the number of fellatios performed in one day?
• ALT 2: that German pornographic actress Sexy Cora died in January 2011 after suffering a heart attack during a breast enlargement surgery at a plastic surgery clinic in Hamburg?

--BabbaQ (talk) 18:57, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Size, source, history all check out. We're going to get calls when this appears on the main page ...--Wehwalt (talk) 13:38, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, farmers might complain enmasse because of the competition from a lot of cocks..♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:55, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Only 1,330 characters of prose by my count. 97198 (talk) 14:25, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

1295 by mine. :/  狐 FOX  14:27, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

I find that hard to believe, as Wehwalt says size,sources and history checks up.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:42, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Maybe Wehwalt didn't do a good job of checking? As far as I can tell, this article has never been 1500 characters long at any point. - PM800 (talk) 21:35, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• The article's largest sized version does not measure up to DYK check. Binksternet (talk) 01:30, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Healthy persons must feel revulsion. Those DYKs are ghoulish and irresponsible. (DYK has balance policies about USA versus the rest of the world on English; surely this line of filth need not be crossed.) Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 01:27, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm sure that if this gets featured on the main page it will get a lot of "views" and "hits" and might even make it into the DYK hall of fame. But just stop and seriously think about whether ... this is what you want the "encyclopedia of all human knowledge to be". At the very very very least, just don't be stupid enough to make it a lead article. Volunteer Marek  01:36, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages is not censored. We don't reject a hook because we think it's disgusting. Or did you miss the "Interactive Urinal" hook? And since there's no picture how could it be a lead article? And if Misplaced Pages is indeed the "encyclopedia of all human knowledge", well, this IS PART of "all human knowledge" whether we like it or not. I've taken the liberty of commenting out the "Symbol delete vote" to avoid confusion, because it was added here on WP:IDONTLIKEIT grounds. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 01:39, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

WP:CENSOR is not an excuse for your run of the mill dumb-assery. Nobody's proposing that this article be deleted - i.e. to spell it out for you, nobody's trying to censor anything. Just that it shouldn't go up on the main page in order to represent what Misplaced Pages's about. Or at the very least (which is what I said in my previous comment), that if it is included in the DYK feature it's not made the lede hook, like this one was Brittany CoxXx (lots of "views" but seriously...). Come on, step back and reflect here. A lot of these of the articles on notable women end up being about idiotic pop stars or some porn actress. And trying to get an article on a famous and notable woman scholar is a pain in the ass because that's "boring". See anything wrong here? Volunteer Marek  01:49, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

I think that we can live without this on the main page. Newyorkbrad (talk) 01:51, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Oh, I agree, "it's boring" is a lame excuse. And we need more knowledgable articles and less pop-culture ones. But WP:IDONTLIKEIT is still no reason to slap a 'DYKno' on an article, especially with such a hisitronic statement attached to it. I don't mind if the article doesn't make the main page, but that should be because it isn't DYK eligible, not because "it's disgusting". - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 01:55, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

I am not proposing censoring the article, but of not putting it on the front page. Again, the argument is about balance, and WP has policies that respect balance and judgment, about e.g. the number of articles about the USA versus the rest of the world. WP does not have time to have rules against all manners of stupidity, but we can ask ourselves, at long last, whether we have any descency.

Do not censor my vote. You are welcome to maintain your comment against my vote, but you should not edit another editor's statements, to change their meaning. You should strive for consensus of the others that your DYK-proposals are not foul or ghoulish. I would of course respect that consensus. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 01:53, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Everybody calm down for a second. Obviously the first hook is not appropriate for the main page. I think we can all agree on that. Is it possible that something less titillating could be used instead? If this is going to be seriously considered, it should at least sound like it's coming from a serious encyclopedia and not 4chan. Personally, though, I think this theme has been overused on DYK, and I would be in favor of not running it at all. Kaldari (talk) 01:56, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Actually WP:IDONTLIKEIT is only NOT a reason to delete an article (which is not something being proposed anyway). WP:ITHINKFEATURINGTHISARTICLEONMAINPAGEISAHORRIBLEIDEA is a perfectly legitimate reason. DYK is supposed to feature the best of newly created articles. While this fulfills the "newly created" it does not fulfill the "best" part. What Kiefer said. In response to Kaldari, the only "legitimate" hook I could see here would be something about how her porn career led to her death, but the article as is is just not well developed enough for that - which is another argument for just dropping it off of DYK. Volunteer Marek  02:07, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Carlina White kidnapping

• ... that Carlina White, kidnapped when 19 days old, was reunited with her parents 23 years later as a result of her own investigative work, the longest recorded gap in a non-parental abduction?

Created by Edison (talk). Self nom at 18:46, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Which one did you review? Stonemason89 (talk) 19:08, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

(I had to add piping to check this out.) The reference checks out. Article is cited, and of sufficient length. Only thing Isee lacking is editor's review of someone else's DYK.

Georgejdorner (talk) 19:23, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Brattle Street (Cambridge, Massachusetts) Edison (talk) 22:44, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

All Saints Church, Theddlethorpe

• ... that All Saints Church, Theddlethorpe, Lincolnshire, (pictured) has been called the "Cathedral of the Marsh"?

• Reviewed: Vein matching

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 16:25, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Excellent! Good to go Diego Grez (talk) 23:22, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Investigatory Powers Tribunal

• ... that the Investigatory Powers Tribunal is the only judicial body in the United Kingdom that can investigate whether surveillance carried out by MI5 or MI6 is legal?

Created by Dmvward (talk). Self nom at 13:02, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• I reviewed the hook for Eric Doeringer below. Also commented on Penry v Johnson above at this diff. DavidWard 13:03, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
  • Date, length and refs check out. 97198 (talk) 08:06, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Eric Doeringer

• ... that Eric Doeringer has sometimes sold up to $1,500-worth of "bootlegs", small copies of paintings by eminent modern artists, in one day?

Created by Cunard (talk). Self nom at 10:28, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• I reviewed an article here. Cunard (talk) 10:28, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Length, date, 5x expansion, citation all look OK. I've slightly reworded the hook. DavidWard 12:58, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Squab pie

• ... that the Westcountry dish, Squab pie, does not contain any squabs and Charles Dickens believed that it inspired hatred of the entire human race?

5x expanded by Worm That Turned (talk). Self nom at 10:19, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Paul-Jean-Baptiste Poret de Morvan diff

• Looks fine, and well sourced. First occurrence of Westcountry fact and Dickens fact are not sourced in lead, but are referenced later in article.

• Suggest removing at least one of the three facts from hook (Westcountry fact). Shorter might be better. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 15:14, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• I suggest:
• ALT1 ... that squab pie, which Charles Dickens said inspired "hatred of the whole human race", is not actually made with squabs?

SmartSE (talk) 15:47, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. Also thanks for the copyedit Smartse! Worm 17:56, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Brattle Street (Cambridge, Massachusetts)

• ... that George Washington and Henry Wadsworth Longfellow both lived in the same house on Brattle Street in Cambridge, Massachusetts?

Created by Betsythedevine (talk). Self nom at 08:35, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Rewording needed: add "61 years apart" so it does not read as if they were roommates.Edison (talk) 18:49, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Oh, good suggestion -- much better than "not at the same time," which is what I had been thinking about. Checking the math...GW moved out in 1776, HWL moved in 1837, yep, you are right on that too. betsythedevine (talk) 20:26, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1 ... that George Washington and Henry Wadsworth Longfellow both lived in the same house on Brattle Street in Cambridge, Massachusetts, 61 years apart?
  • ; all checks out. I think I remember seeing the sign at 105 Brattle, too. Ucucha 20:51, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Olov Janse

• ... that while Swedish archaeologist Olov Janse originally argued for the European rather than Chinese origins of Bronze Age culture in Vietnam, he reversed himself after he began excavating at Đông Sơn?

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 06:11, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Size, date, ref all check out. Good to go! --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 03:15, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Malpuech facial clefting syndrome.

The Age of Empire: 1875-1914

• ... that Eric Hobsbawm's The Age of Empire: 1875-1914 is a Marxist study of the period of the Belle Époque?

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 05:48, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Clive Franklyn Collett. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 05:48, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

All checks out. Moonraker2 (talk) 06:00, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

The Off Hours

• ... that The Off Hours was the first film to be given the "SSF Tag" by the Sustainable Style Foundation for its environmentally friendly practices?

• Reviewed: Stone Jam

Created by Jujutacular (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 04:40, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Hook is not sourced to an independent source. Abductive (reasoning) 02:46, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Fixed.--Nvvchar. 17:35, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Vein matching

• ... that the FBI and CIA used vein matching to verify as evidence that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed of al-Qaeda had killed journalist Daniel Pearl?

Created by KimChee (talk). Self nom at 04:34, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Jack Ertle Oliver. KimChee (talk) 04:36, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Very interesting hook and article. DYK criteria all met but, having read the article used as a reference, I think the word "verify" is too strong. How about:

ALT1... that the FBI and CIA used vein matching in an attempt to verify that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed of al-Qaeda had killed journalist Daniel Pearl?--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 16:13, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

*Agreed that "verify" is not the best word. How about "evidence" as used in the updated hook above? KimChee (talk) 18:42, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

That's fine. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 19:13, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Everwild

• ... that Everlost is the place between life and death that all children travel to when they die?

Created by Tyw7 (talk). Self nom at 04:20, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Presumably you wanted to link to Everlost (novel) but the hook here is a fictional fact so appears promotional rather than a DYK suitable fact and I also see that the article has not been created or expanded 5x within the past 10 days and so fails the basic criteria anyway. Fæ (talk) 13:30, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• I just move the article Everwild to the main page within seven days. Plus, the same hook can apply to that book too because guess what? it also takes place in Everlost! --Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 14:56, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

If it doesn't work I'll proceded to fluff up Everlost (novel) --Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 15:00, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I found Everwild, but this is 1043 characters (172 words) of "readable prose size" which does not meet the DYK criteria. Again, this is a non-notable factoid rather than a fact and so not suitable for DYK, presumably the same problem would apply if you re-nominated on the same basis. The particular criteria for DYK states "If the subject is a work of fiction or a fictional character, the hook must involve the real world in some way." Fæ (talk) 15:07, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Are you not counting the list? Cause I count about 3k characters. Do you think Everlost (novel) would be more suitable if I fluff it up to 5x the length? --Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 15:20, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

See Misplaced Pages:DYK#Selection_criteria, only the prose elements count so at least some of the list would have to become normal prose. As for Everlost (novel), it does not meet the expansion or creation date criteria. Fæ (talk) 16:17, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

I've expanded the article. --Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 18:13, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Everwild now meets the size and creation criteria but the hook of the DYK is still a fictional factoid, unrelated to real life and so remains a problem. Fæ (talk) 18:22, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

How's this?

• ALT1: ... that the sequel of Everwild will be published in June 9, 2011?

a bit unintreasting though. --Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 18:56, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

I'd say this one fails "The hook should refer to established facts that are not likely to change, and should be relevant for more than just novelty or newness" and probably fails "interesting to a wide audience" which are both part of WP:DYK. The date in 2011 is only based on what Amazon have put on their website, which seems like a weak source for the hook and such expected release dates often drift a bit. Fæ (talk) 23:02, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Alt 2 ... that the book Everwild features a ghost that has an ability to possess or "skin jack" people?

How's this? --Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 02:29, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

I'd say this fails the DYK guideline about being tied to the real-world, as plot features are a weak hook based on this criteria unless this were the first such novel, particularly controversial or won an award for this plot feature, in which case it would begin to look more like a citable real-world tie-in. I would appreciate some opinions from other reviewers on this one as this is the third hook for this article and I have only recently started contributing with DYK reviews. Fæ (talk) 06:43, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Homer G. Phillips Hospital

• ... that by 1961, Homer G. Phillips Hospital in St. Louis, Missouri had trained "the largest number of black doctors and nurses in the world"?

• ALT1:... that the closure of Homer G. Phillips Hospital in St. Louis, Missouri prompted protests and picketing that lasted for more than a year?
• Reviewed: Brent Knoll Camp
• Comment: While the first hook seems pretty bold, it's a direct quote from the NRHP Registration Form, but just the same, I included the protest hook in case there are issues with the first.

Created by Poroubalous (talk). Self nom at 04:10, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• for original hook. All DYK criteria met. Very interesting hook. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 20:07, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Stage AE

• ... that Stage AE in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania is a concert venue owned by the Pittsburgh Steelers?

Created by Grsz11 (talk). Self nom at 00:42, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: #2011 Magallanes protests

• All checks out to me. — KV5 • Talk • 03:45, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• The references should not be bare URLs (D3). - PM800 (talk) 04:02, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• No longer are. Grsz 11 14:53, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Good. - PM800 (talk) 10:53, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Country Strong (song)

• ... that Country Strong, a song by Gwyneth Paltrow, became a Top 30 hit on the Hot Country Songs chart?

Created by EnDaLeCoMpLeX (contributions) • (let's chat) 01:40, 21 January 2011 (UTC).

* Two issues: hook not referenced in article, and hook itself is kinda boring...can we think of a different one maybe? Length and date check out though. Jrcla2 (talk) 02:01, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Well poo. Umm, in the intro, Vince Gill and Patty Griffin provide background vocals? EnDaLeCoMpLeX (contributions) • (let's chat) 15:40, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

New hook is better and is sourced in article. For clarification to others, new hook is ".... that Vince Gill and Patty Griffin provide background vocals to the song Country Strong by Gwyneth Paltrow? Jrcla2 (talk) 19:08, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

George Durning

• ... that after beginning his baseball career with the Philadelphia Phillies, right fielder George Durning led the Salisbury Indians in games played, times at bat, and hits in his first full season?

Created by Killervogel5 (talk). Self nom at 03:48, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Date checks out. Two problems: size is close to stubbish, and sentence with hook information has no inline citations. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 19:21, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• The size meets requirements (a new article greater than 1500 readable prose size). Second is easily rectifiable by doubling a cite, which is now done. — KV5 • Talk • 23:14, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• All's fine then. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 18:45, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Stage AE. — KV5 • Talk • 03:48, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 22

Boo Ellis

• ... that after his professional basketball career ended, Boo Ellis worked as a security guard in his hometown of Hamilton, Ohio?

• Reviewed: Gulet Mohammed

Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 01:54, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Yuan administrative rule of Tibet

• ... that during the Yuan administrative rule of Tibet, the Mongol approved d-pon chen, or "Great Administrator", was responsible for the administrative control and management of Tibet under the Yuan Dynasty?

Created by SakyaTrizin (talk). Self nom at 01:10, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Anna Reynolds (singer)

• ... that English classical singer Anna Reynolds recorded Bach cantatas with Richter's Münchener Bach-Chor, including Jesus schläft, was soll ich hoffen? BWV 81?

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 01:06, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• suggested for 30 January, day of the works first performance in 1724. Reviewed: #International Dunhuang Project --Gerda Arendt (talk) 01:15, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

South Branch Kishwaukee River

• ... that part of the South Branch Kishwaukee River's (pictured) bed was the plain of an ancient lake ?

Created by IvoShandor (talk). Self nom at 00:52, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Diva Starz: Mall Mania IvoShandor (talk) 00:52, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Replaced 's with {{`s}} per rule C7. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 01:50, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• While creation date and size check out, it took some time to locate the reference since it is quite general. It could be much better pinpointed, say to here. --Muhandes (talk) 01:36, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• If you look closely you will see that there are two external links in that reference, one to the general Kishwaukee River Basin: An Inventory of the Regions Resources and one to the exact page that the DYK fact is cited from. Once you look again, I am sure you'll agree that it's suffcient. :-) IvoShandor (talk) 01:45, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• oops, missed that. Good to go. --Muhandes (talk) 01:57, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Hålogaland Bridge, Symphony bridge

• ... that the Hålogaland Bridge of Norway was considered being built as a symphony bridge, which combines the structural components of a suspension, cable-stayed and cantilever bridge?

Created by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 00:21, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Funeral of Leonid Brezhnev. Arsenikk 00:27, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• No inline reference after the fact. "The hook fact must have an inline citation right after it since the fact is an extraordinary claim; citing the hook fact at the end of the paragraph is not acceptable" (WP:WIADYK). Guoguo12--Talk--  03:28, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Gibbon Wildlife Sanctuary

• ... that the Gibbon Wildlife Sanctuary in Assam, India is named after the only ape in India, the hoolock gibbon?

• Reviewed: Director of Revenue of Mo. v. CoBank ACB
• Comment: Prior to my re-write, the article was in bad shape. The material was tagged for its lack of notability since March 2010, but no action was taken. The bulk of the material included long lists that were likely lifted from the improperly cited source. I have since significantly expanded the article and lifted the now deleted content from its grave, both restoring the meaningful information with a proper citation (diff) and creating a separate list article (List of species in the Gibbon Wildlife Sanctuary) for the species list. This questionable content should not count towards the original content size because it was a list. I have raised this question here prior to nominating and was encouraged to nominate anyway. I apologize in advance for the slightly challenging review. – VisionHolder « talk » 23:24, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

5x expanded by Visionholder (talk). Self nom at 23:24, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Tojg

• ... that a 300 metre long bridge has been recently built near Tojg, in western Afghanistan, funded by the Commander's Emergency Response Program (CERP)?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk) and Ser Amantio di Nicolao (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 23:17, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Obo II

• ... that Ch. Obo II is considered to be the father of the modern American Cocker Spaniel?

• Reviewed: Hall XPTBH

Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 22:56, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Would it be possible to keep this for February 15th, as it's the second day of the Westminster Kennel Club show.   Miyagawa    talk   23:43, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Funeral of Leonid Brezhnev

• ... that because Leonid Brezhnev had more than 200 decorations, it was decided to break the Soviet custom of featuring only one decoration on cushions during his funeral?

Created by Twilight Chill (talk). Self nom at 22:42, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Length, ref and date check out, but the section is a copyright violation, as it copies several sentences verbatim from the sourse. Arsenikk 00:26, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reworded now (reviewed Barack Obama speech at Tucson memorial). Twilightchill t 00:37, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

The Dennis Day Show

• ... that in 1953-54, Dennis Day's NBC comedy series, The Dennis Day Show, featured Cliff Arquette as Charley Weaver, the custodian of Day's apartment building?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 21:59, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Graciela Chichilnisky Billy Hathorn (talk) 22:06, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Hall XPTBH

• ...that the Hall XPTBH (pictured), a patrol torpedo bomber, was the only aircraft that ever received three mission designation letters in the U.S. Navy's aircraft designation system?

• Reviewed: Elektro-L

5x expanded by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 21:48, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Offline reference accepted in good faith.   Miyagawa    talk   22:53, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Elektro–L

• ... that before the launch of the first Elektro–L satellite on 20 January 2011, Russia had only one operational weather satellite in orbit?

• ALT1:... that Elektro–L is the first Russian weather satellite designed to operate in geostationary orbit?

Created by Nanobear (talk). Self nom at 20:26, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Both hooks check out, but I find the second one to be more interesting, so ALT1 preferred. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 21:47, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Tara (Ramayana)

• ... that Tara is described in the Hindu epic Ramayana to have set a habit to visit her husband Sugriva drunk before indulging in love-making?

5x expanded by Redtigerxyz (talk). Self nom at 18:24, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Size, date, hook are fine. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 20:19, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Colonel Joseph Barker House

• ... that the Joseph Barker House near Marietta, Ohio, was built by the same man that built many boats for the Burr conspiracy?

Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 17:37, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Comments Reviewed the Miller typeface article. I count 2,728 characters for this article. Please note that the honorific "Colonel" is necessary: Barker's son (also named Joseph) has a notable house not far away, so using "Colonel" is a helpful method of disambiguation. Nyttend (talk) 17:37, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Length, substance, hook etc seem good to me. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:25, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Gulet Mohamed

• ... that Gulet Mohamed, a U.S. citizen who was detained in Kuwait, was block from flying home by the U.S. "no-fly list" until a federal court ordered that he be allowed to return home?

• Reviewed: 4th nomination

Created by Racepacket (talk). Self nom at 15:54, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Good to go. Jrcla2 (talk) 01:51, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Miller (typeface)

• ... that the typeface Miller, designed by Matthew Carter in 1997, is a revival of Scottish types cut in the early 1800s?

• Reviewed: Investigatory Powers Tribunal ()

Created by 97198 (talk). Self nom at 08:09, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that Miller is one of the ten most popular typefaces used in American newspapers? 97198 (talk) 11:41, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Both hooks are good, and date, length, and sourcing is good. Article should have an image (a few letters in this font would be PD-text), but that's not a DYK requirement. Nyttend (talk) 17:57, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Pseudobiceros bedfordi

• ... that the flatworm Pseudobiceros bedfordi (pictured), has two penises which it uses to engage in penis fencing?

Created by Anna Frodesiak (talk). Self nom at 08:03, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Squab pie. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:03, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Please scrutinize the sources, and note this. Thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:26, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Size and date checked. Most of used sources do not look like formally published works of schollars. The subject of the article is very interesting, and for us non-experts in that field can look suspicious. Is it possible to provide additional online verifyable sources that would be more formal and scholarly type?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 09:42, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• I'll do my best. There's oceans of time, so I'll post back here in a few days with the results. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:34, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Great hook! Was there any reason not to use File:Flatworm sex.png as the picture? Regarding sourcing, ref 9 confirms the hook fact and is a journal so in that respect the hook is fine. I noticed that figure 2 of that paper says that it can cause them to tear in two... should we make the hook involve this like:
• ALT1 ... that when Pseudobiceros bedfordi (pictured) engages in penis fencing, it can lead to injuries that break them in half, but which they can survive?
• (This reminds me that apophallation is waiting to be expanded...) SmartSE (talk) 18:43, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Here is link to discussion where one user says " I can't track any reference in that article to the specific information on Pseudobiceros bedfordi, and thus suspect it might be WP:OR." Although that discussion went into direction that suggest the main source is reliable, I propose to wait a couple of days to see if anyone else bring some arguments about non-reliability of the source.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 22:49, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Walter Curtis House

• ... that the Walter Curtis House has been recognized as one of the best Greek Revival farmhouses in southeastern Ohio?

Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 05:16, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed World-system. I count 2,439 characters for this article, and I just created it tonight. Nyttend (talk) 05:16, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length, ref all okay. --Epipelagic (talk) 12:51, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 23

Faces of Meth

• ...that the Faces of Meth project shows before-and-after images documenting physical deterioration caused by meth use?

Created by Anna Frodesiak (talk). Self nom at 02:54, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• (reviewed Lady Elliot Island Light)

John Mohammed Butt

• ... that in 1984 John Butt became the first, and only, Westerner to graduate from the prestigious Darul Uloom Deoband Islamic Madrasah in its 145 year history?

Created by Jpb1301 (talk). Self nom at 02:09, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Lady Elliot Island Light

• ... that the original Lady Elliot Island Light (pictured) was the first lighthouse in Australia to be constructed of a hardwood frame clad with cast iron plates?

• Comment: reviewed South Branch Kishwaukee River

Created by Muhandes (talk). Self nom at 01:45, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

• Alternatively, an image of the plans can be used, in which case "pictured" should be replaced with "plans pictured". --Muhandes (talk) 01:50, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
• The first source used to support the "cladding" and "hardwood" statement doesn't use those exact terms. Other refs support "cladding", but I see no mention of term "hardwood". Can timber framing be softwood? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:40, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Charles Asten

• ... that Charles Asten, an American Civil War Medal of Honor recipient, was both born and died on September 14?

• ALT1:... that Charles Asten, a member of the U.S. Navy during the American Civil War, received the Medal of Honor for completing his duties on the USS Signal despite being on the sick list?

Created by Guoguo12 (talk). Self nom at 03:21, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

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Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools' Day 2011 - see Misplaced Pages:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.

February 5 or 6

1960 NFL Championship Game

Statue at Lambeau Field of Vince Lombardi, whose loss in the 1960 NFL Championship Game marked his only playoff loss as a coach.

• ... that after Vince Lombardi's (statue pictured) only career playoff loss at the 1960 NFL Championship Game he led his Green Bay Packers to five titles in the next seven years, including both Super Bowl I and II?

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 14:25, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: First Presbyterian Church (Batavia, New York) and Giurgiu–Ruse pipeline, among others. Alansohn (talk) 15:22, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

• Expansion and hook verified. - PM800 (talk) 21:06, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

• ALT:... that Vince Lombardi, the namesake of the National Football League's Super Bowl trophy, had only a single playoff loss in his coaching career, at the 1960 NFL Championship Game?

--PFHLai (talk) 21:21, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Frankfurter Löwen

• ... that the now defunct Frankfurter Löwen, founded in 1977, were the first American football club to be formed in Germany and winner of the first two editions of the German Bowl?

Created by Calistemon (talk). Self nom at 12:44, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

• Comment: Reviewed Rose de Freycinet (also listed under 12 January)

• Suggestion: Hold for the Super Bowl XLV kick-off on 6 February and have an American football-DYK? Calistemon (talk) 13:07, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

• Length, sourcing (including reading translated version of German-language source) and history have been verified. Alansohn (talk) 22:51, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

February 15

Saint Usuge Spaniel

• ... that the Saint Usuge Spaniel (pictured) was saved from extinction after World War II due to the work of a priest in the Bresse region of France?

• Reviewed: Don't Sit Under the Apple Tree (With Anyone Else but Me)

Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 22:47, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Hook fact checks out and spot check of sources appears mostly ok - I am not certain ref 3 qualifies as a RS, but other sources support its claims. Image is fine, and I made a small change to the hook, noting that the breed was saved from extinction. Resolute 01:12, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks - removed ref 3 now, as thinking about it now, you're right.   Miyagawa    talk   10:45, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Would it be possible to keep this for February 15th, as it's the second day of the Westminster Kennel Club show.   Miyagawa    talk   23:42, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

So moved to this special occasion holding area. --PFHLai (talk) 00:47, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Halloween

Rhacophorus vampyrus

• ... that the tadpole of the Vampire flying frog Rhacophorus vampyrus has two fang-like hooks in its mouth?

Created by Newone (talk), Ka Faraq Gatri (talk). Nominated by Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) at 14:59, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

• Comment If the article meets DYK criteria, suggest moving it to Special Occasions section and keeping for Halloween. The authors of the paper on which this article is substantially based have stated that they intend to publish a separate paper on the tadpoles of this species so the move would also allow time for any material from this paper (assuming it is published in time) to be incorporated. Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) 16:56, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

• That's confirmed. I agree that this should be kept for Halloween, especially as "A detailed description of the new tadpole will be published separately." which might be available by October. It's certainly an early start for the Halloween collection, does anyone think it is a problem to save it until then? SmartSE (talk) 23:41, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

SUPPORT waiting till Halloween, esp. if we can get a good, free picture of the scary tadpoles. --PFHLai (talk) 04:06, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

I've moved this as there were no objections. If someone wants to make a subpage for it, like we have for April Fools' nominations then feel free. SmartSE (talk) 12:46, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

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